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 Posted: Tue Dec 3rd, 2013 03:21 am
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Lesean McCoy is not on this list?  He is better than at least most, if not all, of these guys

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Principal_Raditch wrote:
Charles was also out for 1 season during that time.  Charles is 1.2 YPC better than Forte.  4.3 YPC is pretty crap for a guy that young.

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Benlen wrote: Principal_Raditch wrote:
Charles was also out for 1 season during that time.  Charles is 1.2 YPC better than Forte.  4.3 YPC is pretty crap for a guy that young.

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Different era. In this era, comparing Forte vs Charles, you have backs who have started the same season, one has 470+ more carries than the other, and only has @ 700 more rushing yards. There are only 4 RB's aside from Charles who have 5.0 or greater YPC and have rushed for 5000+ yards. Jim Brown, Barry Sanders, AP and Joe Perry. Charles will finish this year right @ 6000 yards. Presuming he can play 3 more years till 29 he might end up with 9 or 10k. Even if he drops to to 4 YPC going forward he'll sill end up @ 5 for a careeer. Will he do it? I dunno, but I'd bet on him having an overall better career than the majority on that list. He's a better runner than most..maybe not as good an overall back, since he's never been a major pass catcher out of the backfield till this year...but as a pure runner, I think he's much better than Forte or Rice.

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Principal_Raditch wrote:
Where is Jamal Charles on this list? He's at worst better than Ray Rice and Matt Forte. No clue where he ends up in the end when it comes to final yard totals ( so far he's 26 and has 5547 rushing and 1734 receiving, but his YPC is 5.5. Even as that slows down he's probably looking at at least 5 YPC by the end of his career.


I put the cutoff at 6000 yards rushed, only because I think it's easier to envision somebody's HoF credentials if they're halfway towards an imaginary benchmark (I use 12000 yards as a benchmark because everybody with that many yards is a HoFer.). You're right though, Charles might have better credentials than some on the list.

Besides, if recent Chiefs history is taken into account (Priest Holmes, Larry Johnson), Charles will go gangbusters till about 7500 yards or so, then fall right off the cliff.

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AP is the only slam dunk right now. The others have work to do.

This.


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dogfacedgremlin34 wrote: Currently, there are 8 running backs who are 30 years old or younger who you could start making a case as to whether they will be Hall of Famers or not.  Here's my picks, in order of worthiness:

1.  Adrian Peterson--28 years old, 10057 total yards, 4.99 YPC.  If Peterson retired tomorrow, I think he'd be a sure-fire HoFer.  Given he's only 27, I can see him playing and producing for another 3-5 seasons.  I'll say he finishes with around 15000 yards, good enough for 4th on the all time list.  Verdict:  Slam Dunk
2.  Frank Gore--30 years old, 9660 yards, 4.59 YPC.  This is a guy who everybody seems to write off every season, yet he quietly puts together great numbers, including a terrific YPC.  He's on a pace to get his obligatory 1200 yards again this season and will likely break 10000 yards for his career in the process.  If he can stay healthy for another 2-3 seasons, he should produce numbers that should get him in.  Verdict:  Yes, if he can reach 12000 yards.
3.  Marshawn Lynch--27 years old, 7,057 yards, 4.25 YPC.  He was the inspiration for this post, as I was shocked to see he's only 27, as it seems as though he's been around forever.  He's emerged in recent seasons as a premier back and produces several highlight reel runs.  He'll probably finish this season around 7,500 yards.  If he can stay healthy and produce the way he recently has been for another 3-4 seasons, we might be looking at 12-13000 yards for his career. It's a big if though, as given his style, I'm not sure he can.  Verdict:  If he can stay healthy, yes.
4.  Steven Jackson--30 years old, 10474 total yards, 4.20 YPC.  Jackson has been slowing down at warp speed the last couple seasons, as evidenced by this season's injury plagued campaign.  I can't see him sticking around for another season or 2.  I'll say he gets another 2000 yards--and that's being generous--which would put him in the Top 10 all time.  Verdict:  If he gets to 12k yards, then yes.  Otherwise, no.
5.  Chris Johnson--28 years old, 7662 yards, 4.59 YPC.  He has a great YPC average, but like Jackson, I think the wheels are starting to come off.  He'll be lucky to finish this season with 1000 yards.  Verdict:  Probably not, as I don't think he finishes his career with 10000 yards.
6.  Maurice Jones Drew--28 years old, 7884 yards, 4.47 YPC.  Had I done this list two seasons ago, MJD probably would've ranked #3.  Now, due to injuries and crummy Jacksonville teams, I'm not so sure he'll make it.  The biggest boost for his candidacy would probably be to get out of Jacksonville, but I'm not really sure what to make of him after this season's disaster.  Verdict:  If he gets out of Jacksonville within the next season or two, maybe.  Otherwise, probably not. 
7.  Matt Forte--27 years old, 6,298 yards, 4.27 YPC.  I never know what to make of Matt Forte.  From a fantasy perspective, some years--such as this one--he's gold, and other years he's junk.  It's that inconsistency that will probably ultimately be his demise, as I'm not sure he'll get to 10000 years and HoF consideration.  Verdict:  Probably not.
8.  Ray Rice--26 years old, 6002 yards, 4.34 YPC.  Like MJD, a season ago I thought this guy was well on his way to Canton.  After this year I'm not so sure.  Still, it might just be an off year, but the questions still remain.  I'd have to see at least one more season from Rice before I can give a definitive answer.  Verdict:  Incomplete.



I took another look at this and instead of looking at just rushing yards I looked at All Purpose yardage especially given some of the current crop have been active in team's passing games.  For instance Tiki Barber doesn't show up on this list but he had 17,357 AP yards ahead of notables Jim Brown, Thurman Thomas, Eric Dickerson, Tony Dorsett and a few others.  Earl Campbell had just over 10,000.  Was Tiki better than them?  No, but he did contribute mightily to the Giants during his years there.

Here's how the list above stacks up: 

Peterson 12,200

Gore 12,400

Lynch 8,550

Jackson 14,000

Chris Johnson 9,600

MJD 12,800

Forte 9,000

Rice 9,000

15,000 seems to be a good threshold and based on that I'd pick:

AP, Forte, Gore, Jackson.  I don't believe the others get past 15K.  btw, Darren Sproles has just over 15K but much of that came from returns and not running or receiving.  Jamaal Charles has 8500 and given his age may very likely reach 15K if he stays healthy

 

 

 

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I believe that Peterson and Lynch will someday be in there.

Peterson is already in, even if he died tomorrow (think, Billy Sims). He's a unique talent and one of the top 5 RBs of all time.

Lynch is our modern Earl Campbell and he takes a lot of hits, so I don't think his career will be quite as long as some of the others, but he's a highlight reel (much like Campbell, who had a relatively short career) and I can see him in if he maintains for another 2-3 years.

Guys like Priest Holmes are better than anybody else on the list.

Good call by Yellowdog on Jamaal Charles. I think he's one of the top 15 backs I've ever seen.

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Principal_Raditch wrote:
Benlen wrote: Principal_Raditch wrote:
Charles was also out for 1 season during that time.  Charles is 1.2 YPC better than Forte.  4.3 YPC is pretty crap for a guy that young.

Marcus Allen and Marshall Faulk would like to have a word with you.

Different era. In this era, comparing Forte vs Charles, you have backs who have started the same season, one has 470+ more carries than the other, and only has @ 700 more rushing yards. There are only 4 RB's aside from Charles who have 5.0 or greater YPC and have rushed for 5000+ yards. Jim Brown, Barry Sanders, AP and Joe Perry. Charles will finish this year right @ 6000 yards. Presuming he can play 3 more years till 29 he might end up with 9 or 10k. Even if he drops to to 4 YPC going forward he'll sill end up @ 5 for a careeer. Will he do it? I dunno, but I'd bet on him having an overall better career than the majority on that list. He's a better runner than most..maybe not as good an overall back, since he's never been a major pass catcher out of the backfield till this year...but as a pure runner, I think he's much better than Forte or Rice.


Charles should be in the HOF based on the "Billy Sims" theory. Sims only played, what? Maybe 4 years?



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