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We all know how these "retirements" go, but Motley Crue will be announcing their retirement tour today at 3:00 PM.  Basically all details have already leaked except exact dates.  It'll be called the "R.I.P. Farewell Tour" and Alice Cooper will open.  Crue will be performing on Jimmy Kimmel tonight after the announcement.  Crue is just about the only major '80s band that I somehow haven't seen live yet, so I'll definitely be going to this.  They have all their original members and can still go, so it should be a good tour.  Not sure how long the retirement will really last though since everyone except Mick Mars probably has a few more years left in them if they want.

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I've seen them quite a bit and Nikki, Mick and Tommy can still go and go strong, but Vince's voice is beyond shot. If you don't know the lyrics, you will have no idea what he is shouting. And he only shouts about half the lyrics and skips the other half as he is always winded.

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Vince played here last wednesday. I didn't go but a close friend met up with us after the show and echoed the "Vince's voice is shot" sentiment. Said it was really, really bad. Vince played for an hour, then gave the band the throat-slash and they ended the show without an encore.

I would assume Crue will be better than that.

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khawk wrote: Vince played here last wednesday. I didn't go but a close friend met up with us after the show and echoed the "Vince's voice is shot" sentiment. Said it was really, really bad. Vince played for an hour, then gave the band the throat-slash and they ended the show without an encore.

I would assume Crue will be better than that.

I've heard that Vince's solo shows just scream "cash grab".  He doesn't play long, and just goes through the motions of doing Crue songs with a cover band.  One of my friends told me that karaoke is more fun. 

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srossi wrote: I've heard that Vince's solo shows just scream "cash grab".  He doesn't play long, and just goes through the motions of doing Crue songs with a cover band.  One of my friends told me that karaoke is more fun. 
Sounds just about exactly like what happened here.

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I never saw Crue, I did see Vince solo about 10-15 years ago, and he was already singing half half a song then too. His solo show was mostly Crue songs, but that's pretty much the case  with any singer doing a solo tour, so it didn't bug me. I saw Steven Pearcy last week, and was bored when he was doing his non-Ratt material.

I'll wait to see them on the 2016 reunion tour.

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I saw them back in '89 on the Dr. Feelgood tour, they were hella fun.

The last time I saw tix for them available, it was upwards of $200.

I'd love to see them one last time, but I just can't justify that price.

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bart wrote: I saw Steven Pearcy last week, and was bored when he was doing his non-Ratt material.


Paul Di'Anno yelled at us once for not being loud enough for his non-Maiden material.  It was brutal.  Just play shit from "Killers" and STFU.

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The Final Tour: All Bad Things Must Come To An EndJul 02 Grand Rapids, MI Van Andel Arena Jul 04 Milwaukee, WI SummerfestJul 05 Noblesville, IN Klipsch Music Center Jul 06 Cincinnati, OH Riverbend Music Center Jul 08 Columbus, OH Schottenstein CenterJul 09 Maryland Heights, MO Verizon Wireless Amphitheater Jul 11 Des Moines, IA Wells Fargo ArenaJul 12 Wichita, KS INTRUST Bank Arena Jul 13 Tulsa, OK BOK Center Jul 15 Cedar Park, TX Cedar Park Center Jul 16 Dallas, TX Gexa Energy Pavilion Jul 18 Albuquerque, NM Isleta Amphitheater Jul 19 Phoenix, AZ Ak-Chin Pavilion Jul 21 Los Angeles, CA Hollywood BowlJul 22 Irvine, CA Verizon Wireless Amphitheatre Jul 23 Mountain View, CA Shoreline AmphitheatreJul 25 Reno, NV Reno Events Center Jul 26 Ridgefield, WA Sleep Country Amphitheater Jul 27 Auburn, WA White River AmphitheatreJul 29 Wheatland, CA Sleep Train AmphitheatreJul 30 Chula Vista, CA Sleep Train AmphitheatreAug 01 Salt Lake City, UT USANA AmphitheatreAug 02 Denver, CO Pepsi Center Aug 03 Kansas City, MO Sprint CenterAug 05 Sturgis, SD Sturgis Buffalo ChipAug 06 Sioux City, IA Tyson Events CenterAug 08 Tinley Park, IL First Midwest Bank Amphitheatre Aug 09 Clarkston, MI DTE Energy Music Theatre Aug 10 Toronto, ON Molson Canadian Amphitheatre Aug 12 Cuyahoga Falls, OH Blossom Music CenterAug 13 Burgettstown, PA First Niagara PavilionAug 15 Pelham, AL Oak Mountain Amphitheatre Aug 16 Alpharetta, GA Verizon Wireless Amphitheatre at Encore Park Aug 17 Tampa, FL MIDFLORIDA Credit Union Amphitheatre Aug 19 Charlotte, NC PNC Music PavilionAug 20 Virginia Beach, VA Farm Bureau Live at Virginia Beach Aug 22 Bristow, VA Jiffy Lube Live Aug 23 Camden, NJ Susquehanna Bank Center Aug 24 Mansfield, MA Xfinity CenterAug 26 Saratoga Springs, NY Saratoga Performing Arts CenterAug 27 Allentown, PA Great Allentown Fair Aug 29 Wantagh, NY Nikon at Jones Beach TheaterAug 30 Holmdel, NJ PNC Bank Arts Center Aug 31 Darien Center, NY Darien Lake Performing Arts CenterOct 10 Oklahoma City, OK Chesapeake Arena Oct 11 The Woodlands, TX Cynthia Woods Mitchell Pavilion Oct 12 Bossier City, LA CenturyLink Center Oct 14 Louiseville, KY KFC Yum! Center Oct 15 Nashville, TN Bridgestone Arena Oct 17 Hollywood, FL Seminole Hard Rock Oct 19 Jacksonville, FL Veterans Memorial Arena Oct 21 Greenville, SC Bon Secours Wellness Arena Oct 22 Greensboro, NC Greensboro ColiseumOct 25 Atlantic City, NJ Borgata Events Center Oct 26 Uncasville, CT Mohegan Sun Arena Oct 29 Syracuse, NY The OnCenter Nov 05 Biloxi, MS Mississippi Coast ColiseumNov 06 Southaven, MS Landers Center Nov 09 Moline, IL iWireless Center Nov 11 Green Bay, WI Resch Center Nov 12 Madison, WI Alliant Energy Center Nov 13 Omaha, NE CenturyLink Center Nov 15 St. Paul, MN Xcel Energy Center Nov 16 Fargo, ND FargoDome Nov 18 Edmonton, AB Rexall Place Nov 19 Calgary, AB Scotiabank Saddledome Nov 21 Vancouver, BC Rogers Arena

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Ditto on seeing Crue & Vince's voice being shot. I did see a later concert vid & they had him singing over recorded tracks.

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First saw them in 85 at MSG and again on the Dr. Feelgood tour. Saw Vince solo when I lived in Vegas around 97 or 98.

I'm going to hit this when they are in Austin in July, because I doubt they will make it all the way until October when they are in Houston.

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whatever wrote: First saw them in 85 at MSG and again on the Dr. Feelgood tour. Saw Vince solo when I lived in Vegas around 97 or 98.

I'm going to hit this when they are in Austin in July, because I doubt they will make it all the way until October when they are in Houston.

You know, that's probably no joke.  This is a very ambitious schedule for these guys with almost no days off.  That's just crazy.  A band half their age would be worn out by September.

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srossi wrote: whatever wrote: First saw them in 85 at MSG and again on the Dr. Feelgood tour. Saw Vince solo when I lived in Vegas around 97 or 98.

I'm going to hit this when they are in Austin in July, because I doubt they will make it all the way until October when they are in Houston.

You know, that's probably no joke.  This is a very ambitious schedule for these guys with almost no days off.  That's just crazy.  A band half their age would be worn out by September.

Looking at the schedule, there's a 6-week break in September/October, so they're doing 2 months straight, then 1 month straight.
Saw them when they toured with KISS, I can confirm Vince's half-assed vocals.

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BuddyPSHayes wrote: srossi wrote: whatever wrote: First saw them in 85 at MSG and again on the Dr. Feelgood tour. Saw Vince solo when I lived in Vegas around 97 or 98.

I'm going to hit this when they are in Austin in July, because I doubt they will make it all the way until October when they are in Houston.

You know, that's probably no joke.  This is a very ambitious schedule for these guys with almost no days off.  That's just crazy.  A band half their age would be worn out by September.

Looking at the schedule, there's a 6-week break in September/October, so they're doing 2 months straight, then 1 month straight.
Saw them when they toured with KISS, I can confirm Vince's half-assed vocals.

The problem is getting to September.  They should have at least 1 night off between every show, 2 nights on occasion, to save Vince's vice, not to mention the rest of them ain't spring chickens either.  That's the type of schedule Sabbath is going with, and most of the other older bands.  Back-to-back nights are killers.

Also, this isn't it.  They're going to take another 6 week break and then do the international part of the tour starting January 2015, but those dates aren't set in stone yet.

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But once they're done, they're done for good (unless they settle on breaking this contract) -

"Motley Crüe have signed a contract that will permanently dissolve the legendary rock group after one last tour. With the announcement of their second farewell tour in less than a decade, the rockers vowed that this time, once and for all, they are calling it quits.

At yesterday's press conference in Los Angeles, Tommy Lee, Vince Neil, Mick Mars and Nikki Sixx inscribed their signatures on a legally-binding "cessation of touring agreement", vouchsafed by attorney Doug Mark. Although Motley Crüe plan to play 72 North American cities in 2014, followed by international dates next year, the four members will go their separate ways when The Final Tour is over. If they do not, they can apparently be sued - though it's not clear by whom.

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DaNkinator wrote: But once they're done, they're done for good (unless they settle on breaking this contract) -

"Motley Crüe have signed a contract that will permanently dissolve the legendary rock group after one last tour. With the announcement of their second farewell tour in less than a decade, the rockers vowed that this time, once and for all, they are calling it quits.

At yesterday's press conference in Los Angeles, Tommy Lee, Vince Neil, Mick Mars and Nikki Sixx inscribed their signatures on a legally-binding "cessation of touring agreement", vouchsafed by attorney Doug Mark. Although Motley Crüe plan to play 72 North American cities in 2014, followed by international dates next year, the four members will go their separate ways when The Final Tour is over. If they do not, they can apparently be sued - though it's not clear by whom.

It's a cute gimmick.  It doesn't mean anything, but I have no doubt that they're serious about retiring as of right now.

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What kind of shape is Mick Mars in? Doesn't he have some degenerative bone disease? Can he play live very well?

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He had hip replacement surgery a few years back and has said it alleviated a lot of his chronic pain, but he's also nearly 63, so I think this will be it for him.

I've heard he still nails it live.

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Rock and roll retirements are like wrestling retirements. They don't generally stick. Whatever legal stuff they're trotting out right now as PR to show that this is it, I have no doubt in my mind we'll see them back on the road by 2017 with the big comeback tour.

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srossi wrote: DaNkinator wrote: But once they're done, they're done for good (unless they settle on breaking this contract) - "Motley Crüe have signed a contract that will permanently dissolve the legendary rock group after one last tour. With the announcement of their second farewell tour in less than a decade, the rockers vowed that this time, once and for all, they are calling it quits. At yesterday's press conference in Los Angeles, Tommy Lee, Vince Neil, Mick Mars and Nikki Sixx inscribed their signatures on a legally-binding "cessation of touring agreement", vouchsafed by attorney Doug Mark. Although Motley Crüe plan to play 72 North American cities in 2014, followed by international dates next year, the four members will go their separate ways when The Final Tour is over. If they do not, they can apparently be sued - though it's not clear by whom. It's a cute gimmick.  It doesn't mean anything, but I have no doubt that they're serious about retiring as of right now. The "agreement" does serve a purpose - it prevents one member from putting together a band and using the Motley Crüe name in the future.

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Seen them 3 times. Not once did I actually want to though. Vince's voice has been shot for 15 years

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Got my tickets this morning to the August 29 Jones Beach show.  A few big ones to check off my bucket list this year, including Black Sabbath in March.

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How much were they?

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A buddy just emailed me that tickets, likely lawns, are $20 on Groupon. I hadn't planned on going but for $20 you can't go wrong. Also, I have never seen Alice before and I always wanted to.

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DaNkinator wrote: How much were they?
A few different ticket tiers.  With fees I paid about $70 each.  The most expensive was about $140.  I think for $40 you can get the cheapest seats (probably $25 plus fees).  It's the fees that really kill you.  I try to go to the box office and buy directly whenever possible, but I can't do that with Jones Beach.

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srossi wrote: DaNkinator wrote: How much were they?
A few different ticket tiers.  With fees I paid about $70 each.  The most expensive was about $140.  I think for $40 you can get the cheapest seats (probably $25 plus fees).  It's the fees that really kill you.  I try to go to the box office and buy directly whenever possible, but I can't do that with Jones Beach.

For the Houston show, lawn tix are $25 plus Ticketmaster fees. Most expensive ticket is $125.

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Wow, those are way cheaper than I expected. I may just go after all.

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Heading to Jones Beach in a little bit to see this show.  Pretty excited for it, I've heard good reviews of the tour so far. 

I was thinking about their catalog today and ranking their albums.  It's interesting because their hits are somewhat spread out and some albums have a big song on it and then tons of filler because even they admitted they were too fucked up to make a whole album.  I think some of their less commercially successful albums are actually their best.  This is what I came up with, in terms of albums from top to bottom:

1. Dr. Feelgood - I think their only complete album with no throw-aways and a good mix of hard-rocking anthems and power ballads
2. Saints of Los Angeles - best 2000s album made by any of the hair metal bands and very complete
3. Motley Crue - the John Corabi album gets no love but is a very complete effort with a harder sound
4. Shout at the Devil - title track, "Looks That Kill", "Too Young to Fall in Love", and their best recorded cover on "Helter Skelter"
5. Girls, Girls, Girls - starts off with the title track and "Wild Side" and then fizzles from there
6. Too Fast For Love - debut doesn't hold up as well as it should but "Live Wire" still kicks ass
7. Theatre of Pain - "Home Sweet Home" and a lot of crap
8. Generation Swine - return of Vince Neil album was wholly uninspired and for the paycheck
9. New Tattoo - does anyone even remember this 2000 album was produced?

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Couldn't pay me to go see them live.

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Couldn't pay me to go see them live. They haven't had a good album since the 1st. Everything else is to " studio enhanced" .

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Disagree on Too Fast for Love. I think it's a vastly under rated classic. I like a few Crue albums, but I hold that among the all time greats from anyartist. The odd production adds to it, for me. I love the raw sound of it. Great pop-punk-glam songs and I really really live the way Mick's guitars and Tommy's drums sound.

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The retirement is apparently over as Motley Crue, Def Leppard, and Poison are about to announce a summer stadium tour for 2020.  I really am curious what kind of draw this is.  Major arenas sure, but stadiums?  The top two bands can draw almost 20,000 each and Poison maybe 10,000, but a lot of that is cross-over fans who would be at all 3 shows.  Can this draw more than 20,000-25,000 combined?  They need double that.

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For guys like me who are stuck in the 80's, thats a pretty good triple bill.

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It's a strong bill for sure however, I don't think that in 2020 this is going to sell out baseball stadiums. They would do bang up business if they kept it to sheds between June and August. Not only that, but Poison and Def Leppard tour every single year so there is that oversaturation thing going on. Expect this to be heavily papered.

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the squared circle wrote: For guys like me who are stuck in the 80's, thats a pretty good triple bill.
I like all the bands but Vince Neil just can't go anymore AT ALL.  Poison will probably play 30 minutes and even as a headliner that's about as long as Bret Michaels is good for these days.  Def Leppard is really the only act that can still deliver at that level.  

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srossi wrote: the squared circle wrote: For guys like me who are stuck in the 80's, thats a pretty good triple bill.
I like all the bands but Vince Neil just can't go anymore AT ALL.  Poison will probably play 30 minutes and even as a headliner that's about as long as Bret Michaels is good for these days.  Def Leppard is really the only act that can still deliver at that level. 
Supposedly Live Nation made this contingent on Vince losing 50 lbs. and Tommy going to rehab.

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Y'know now I'm starting to wonder if the stadium gigs might work out. A guy over at Metal Sludge posted the boxscores for last years Def Leppard/Journey tour and they did fantastic. I would think that the combination of Crue and Poison would rival Journey as far as fanbase is concerned. Here are the numbers.

Hershey, PA - Hershypark Stadium - 26,753 / 27, 124
Toronto, ON - Rogers Centre - 31,429 / 45,803
Atlanta, GA - SunTrust Park - 32,801 / 32,801
Detroit, MI - Comerica Park - 31,383 / 31,383
Chicago, IL - Wrigley Field - 35,528 / 35,528
Denver, CO - Coors Field - 44,928 / 44,928
Minneapolis, MN - Target Field - 37,960 / 37,960
Boston, MA - Fenway Park - 34,359 / 34,359
St. Louis, MO - Busch Stadium - 31,865 / 33,420
San Francisco, CA - AT&T Park - 35,617 / 35,617
San Diego, CA - Petco Park - 34,300 / 37,999

He also stated they did two shows at the Los Angeles Forum.

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I saw Def Leppard and Journey at Prudential Center.  I didn't realize they did stadiums too.  

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WongLee wrote: srossi wrote: the squared circle wrote: For guys like me who are stuck in the 80's, thats a pretty good triple bill.
I like all the bands but Vince Neil just can't go anymore AT ALL.  Poison will probably play 30 minutes and even as a headliner that's about as long as Bret Michaels is good for these days.  Def Leppard is really the only act that can still deliver at that level. 
Supposedly Live Nation made this contingent on Vince losing 50 lbs. and Tommy going to rehab.

And if that doesn't happen they're going to cancel and refund everyone's money?  Empty threat even if true.  Summer is a long way away and no one is keeping Vince away from the Krispy Kremes the entire long, cold winter.  

Vince was okay-ish on that Farewell Tour, but then more than a year later I saw him solo at a festival (with a setlist of 100% Crue songs) and it was as bad a live performance as I've ever seen.  It was like 60 outside and he was dripping sweat with a beat red face singing one of every 5 words (instead of his usual every third word).  He just looked and sounded AWFUL.  People were walking in droves out since it was a festival and there were so many other bands that had played.  His drummer, the young guy from Slaughter, was putting on a Young Bucks match behind his kit to keep the show moving, and Neil just had nothing left.  It was Fat Elvis mixed with drunk Stephen Pearcy.  Just pitiful.  They can't let that happen headlining stadiums.

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For that summer 2018 tour, Def Leppard and Journey had Cheap Trick as the opening act and got the best review of the Minneapolis show in the paper although both of the headliners got good marks too, if not A+ grades. The big thing was the audience loved it and people went home happy. A Def Leppard, Motley Crue, and Poison tour would probably do very well.

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How is the health of Mick Mars these days?

Has he done much since The Crue went of "hiatus"?

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carpetbeggar wrote: How is the health of Mick Mars these days?

Has he done much since The Crue went of "hiatus"?
I really wonder about Mick's fitness for a tour like this. Supposedly he was well into recording a solo album and it was supposed to be heavy and bluesy and all that shit. The guy truly seems like he has both feet planted firmly in the grave.

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WongLee wrote: carpetbeggar wrote: How is the health of Mick Mars these days?

Has he done much since The Crue went of "hiatus"?
I really wonder about Mick's fitness for a tour like this. Supposedly he was well into recording a solo album and it was supposed to be heavy and bluesy and all that shit. The guy truly seems like he has both feet planted firmly in the grave.

I was looking forward to Mick's solo album. Hopefully he continues to work on it and doesn't die before he finishes it.

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I've seen all these guys multiple times, this tour does nothing for me. Sad thing is the Black Crowes* (scab Crowes) are touring for the first time in 5 years, they're one of my favorite bands ever but I really don't care to see them with just the Robinson brothers and a bunch of backing players. Luckily The Doobie Brothers announced a big tour for next year with the classic guys and Michael McDonald, THAT I will pay to see..

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WongLee wrote: carpetbeggar wrote: How is the health of Mick Mars these days?

Has he done much since The Crue went of "hiatus"?
I really wonder about Mick's fitness for a tour like this. Supposedly he was well into recording a solo album and it was supposed to be heavy and bluesy and all that shit. The guy truly seems like he has both feet planted firmly in the grave.
I thought that Mick Mars died in 2002 and they've just been propping him up on stage with a guitar ever since.  If you are correct with him being alive, he has to be at least 172 years old by now.  He looks worse than that South Dakota old man that says "Meth - I'm on it".

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A Seattle date has already been announced by a venue, and Joan Jett & The Blackhearts will be opening for the other 3.

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They're really playing the oversaturation game with Joan Jett as the fourth band. Except for Crue of course these guys have been out every summer for the past three years at least. Personally I think this show is developing into an exercise in endurance. Go to setlist.fm and pick any of these bands setlists from the last 5 years and there you are. I was leaning towards going to this before but now I think it's going to be a hard pass.

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Here are the dates. Supposedly DL and Crue will flip flop as headliners on each stop.

Tuesday, July 7 MIAMI, FL Hard Rock Stadium
Thursday, July 9 ORLANDO, FL Camping World Stadium
Saturday, July 11 CHARLOTTE, NC Bank of America Stadium
Tuesday, July 14 ARLINGTON, TX Globe Life Field
Wednesday, July 15 HOUSTON, TX Minute Maid Park
Sunday, July 19 SAN FRANCISCO, CA Oracle Park
Thursday, July 23 SAN DIEGO, CA Petco Park
Saturday, July 25 PHOENIX, AZ State Farm Stadium
Sunday, August 9 ATLANTA, GA SunTrust Park
Tuesday, August 11 HERSHEY, PA Hersheypark Stadium
Thursday, August 13 BUFFALO, NY New Era Field
Saturday, August 15 PHILADELPHIA, PA Citizens Bank Park
Sunday, August 16 PITTSBURGH, PA PNC Park
Tuesday, August 18 MILWAUKEE, WI Miller Park
Thursday, August 20 DETROIT, MI Comerica Park
Saturday, August 22 WASHINGTON DC Nationals Park
Sunday, August 23 FLUSHING, NY Citi Field
Tuesday, August 25 BOSTON, MA Fenway Park*
Friday, August 28 CHICAGO, IL Wrigley Field
Sunday, August 30 DENVER, CO Coors Field
Wednesday, September 2 SEATTLE, WA T-Mobile Park
Saturday, September 5 LOS ANGELES, CA SoFi Stadium

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WongLee wrote: They're really playing the oversaturation game with Joan Jett as the fourth band. Except for Crue of course these guys have been out every summer for the past three years at least. Personally I think this show is developing into an exercise in endurance. Go to setlist.fm and pick any of these bands setlists from the last 5 years and there you are. I was leaning towards going to this before but now I think it's going to be a hard pass.
I’m not going to be able to resist. I’ll be at Citi Field. Glad I don’t have to travel to Swampland and Metlife Stadium. Def Leppard will steal the show easily. The others can all be rough live depending on the day. 

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srossi wrote: WongLee wrote: They're really playing the oversaturation game with Joan Jett as the fourth band. Except for Crue of course these guys have been out every summer for the past three years at least. Personally I think this show is developing into an exercise in endurance. Go to setlist.fm and pick any of these bands setlists from the last 5 years and there you are. I was leaning towards going to this before but now I think it's going to be a hard pass.
I’m not going to be able to resist. I’ll be at Citi Field. Glad I don’t have to travel to Swampland and Metlife Stadium. Def Leppard will steal the show easily. The others can all be rough live depending on the day. 

Eh..Poison brings it live. They're not a great band musically but the stuff they did they do good live. Vocally they'll be the kings of this tour. DL musically is better than everyone else put together but Joe's vocals are spotty..
If I hadn't seen these guys multiple times already (except for Joan Jett and I could care less about her) I'd be there for sure. It's a killer lineup..

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BTW, it's REALLY awesome that Charlotte got a date. That's the best thing about Jerry Richardson having to sell the Panthers the other year, he sold the stadium too. He had ONE concert there 20 years ago, the Stones, and never allowed another one. We've missed out on so many big stadium tours over the years because his family controlled that stadium. Now that he's out we've already got this and Billy Joel lined up..

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Married Jo wrote: srossi wrote: WongLee wrote: They're really playing the oversaturation game with Joan Jett as the fourth band. Except for Crue of course these guys have been out every summer for the past three years at least. Personally I think this show is developing into an exercise in endurance. Go to setlist.fm and pick any of these bands setlists from the last 5 years and there you are. I was leaning towards going to this before but now I think it's going to be a hard pass.
I’m not going to be able to resist. I’ll be at Citi Field. Glad I don’t have to travel to Swampland and Metlife Stadium. Def Leppard will steal the show easily. The others can all be rough live depending on the day. 

Eh..Poison brings it live. They're not a great band musically but the stuff they did they do good live. Vocally they'll be the kings of this tour. DL musically is better than everyone else put together but Joe's vocals are spotty..
If I hadn't seen these guys multiple times already (except for Joan Jett and I could care less about her) I'd be there for sure. It's a killer lineup..

Bret’s voice is very spotty and his headline shows are 70 minutes and include guitar and drum solos to give him a rest, even his solo shows when the band members are nobodies. So Poison being the 2nd of 4 bands will basically be able to do their whole headline show but for once fans won’t feel ripped off. I think Joe blows him away vocally, but I’m not saying that Poison isn’t a fun band live. 

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I wonder how much time everyone gets. I’m guessing 45, 60, 90, 90.

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Can't believe there isn't a Toronto show.

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How many of those guys can't cross the border? lol

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Ha! good point

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srossi wrote: I wonder how much time everyone gets. I’m guessing 45, 60, 90, 90.I think 30, 45, 75, 75. None of these bands are known for Grateful Dead or Phish type shows. They were lazy before and they'll be lazy now.

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WongLee wrote: srossi wrote: I wonder how much time everyone gets. I’m guessing 45, 60, 90, 90.I think 30, 45, 75, 75. None of these bands are known for Grateful Dead or Phish type shows. They were lazy before and they'll be lazy now.
It wouldn't surprise me if Joan Jett sung four or five songs, with no crowd interaction, and was off the stage in 20 minutes.  That's not a knock on Joan, but I just don't see these four acts putting in almost five hours work total.  Even in Wong's eyes, it's still a four plus hour show.  The good thing about a stadium tour is that the stage is huge, so they can basically have all four sets of equipment up on stage at once and minimize the time between bands.  If it was four bands at MSG, you'd be looking at close to a half hour between acts just to change the stage.

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Superstar wrote: WongLee wrote: srossi wrote: I wonder how much time everyone gets. I’m guessing 45, 60, 90, 90.I think 30, 45, 75, 75. None of these bands are known for Grateful Dead or Phish type shows. They were lazy before and they'll be lazy now.
It wouldn't surprise me if Joan Jett sung four or five songs, with no crowd interaction, and was off the stage in 20 minutes.  That's not a knock on Joan, but I just don't see these four acts putting in almost five hours work total.  Even in Wong's eyes, it's still a four plus hour show.  The good thing about a stadium tour is that the stage is huge, so they can basically have all four sets of equipment up on stage at once and minimize the time between bands.  If it was four bands at MSG, you'd be looking at close to a half hour between acts just to change the stage.

Joe Elliot has said he wants it to be a mini-festival and an all-day event.  I expect doors to open at 3 or 4pm.  I took my wife to a Kenny Chesney stadium show with 3 fairly big names (if you're into country) as openers and it was the same deal.  People showed up before noon, got hammered in the parking lot for 3 or 4 hours, then started to file in, and the show started around 5:30 and ended at 11.  Before the show started, there were some things on the video screens to keep the crowd occupied, including Ric Flair cutting a promo on Chesney.  For the price they're going to charge, I hope they can come close to that to justify the cost.  

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I took my wife to a Kenny Chesney stadium show with 3 fairly big names (if you're into country) as openers and it was the same deal. 
You got one of those wives too eh? My little 'ol Texas gal has made me take her to more country shows than I care to admit. I mean it's not bad. Especially after pre-gaming with Fireball in the parking lot. But I look at myself and say "oh how the mighty have fallen"

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WongLee wrote: srossi wrote:
I took my wife to a Kenny Chesney stadium show with 3 fairly big names (if you're into country) as openers and it was the same deal. 
You got one of those wives too eh? My little 'ol Texas gal has made me take her to more country shows than I care to admit. I mean it's not bad. Especially after pre-gaming with Fireball in the parking lot. But I look at myself and say "oh how the mighty have fallen"

Only Chesney and Garth for me. I preferred Chesney. It’s basically a rock concert. Not the kind of rock I prefer, but rock. I didn’t hear much country. This year Chesney plays Metlife the night before Crue/Leppard play Citi Field. I bet a lot of fans will actually be at both. My wife will be, but fortunately she’s seeing Chesney with friends this time. 

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srossi wrote: WongLee wrote: srossi wrote:
I took my wife to a Kenny Chesney stadium show with 3 fairly big names (if you're into country) as openers and it was the same deal. 
You got one of those wives too eh? My little 'ol Texas gal has made me take her to more country shows than I care to admit. I mean it's not bad. Especially after pre-gaming with Fireball in the parking lot. But I look at myself and say "oh how the mighty have fallen"

Only Chesney and Garth for me. I preferred Chesney. It’s basically a rock concert. Not the kind of rock I prefer, but rock. I didn’t hear much country. This year Chesney plays Metlife the night before Crue/Leppard play Citi Field. I bet a lot of fans will actually be at both. My wife will be, but fortunately she’s seeing Chesney with friends this time.
Yep. That's the one saving grace is that the "country" music of the teens are the hard rock of the 70's and 80's as far as the live experience is concerned. Guys like Zac Brown cover Sabbath during their shows. When we saw Brad Paisley, his guitar heroics were as good as any hair metal stooge.

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WongLee wrote: srossi wrote: WongLee wrote: srossi wrote:
I took my wife to a Kenny Chesney stadium show with 3 fairly big names (if you're into country) as openers and it was the same deal. 
You got one of those wives too eh? My little 'ol Texas gal has made me take her to more country shows than I care to admit. I mean it's not bad. Especially after pre-gaming with Fireball in the parking lot. But I look at myself and say "oh how the mighty have fallen"

Only Chesney and Garth for me. I preferred Chesney. It’s basically a rock concert. Not the kind of rock I prefer, but rock. I didn’t hear much country. This year Chesney plays Metlife the night before Crue/Leppard play Citi Field. I bet a lot of fans will actually be at both. My wife will be, but fortunately she’s seeing Chesney with friends this time.
Yep. That's the one saving grace is that the "country" music of the teens are the hard rock of the 70's and 80's as far as the live experience is concerned. Guys like Zac Brown cover Sabbath during their shows. When we saw Brad Paisley, his guitar heroics were as good as any hair metal stooge.

I would see the Zac Brown Band. They seem more like southern rock than country to me and the little I've heard of them I like. 

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The start times for most shows is listed as 4:30. Assuming an 11:00ish curfew, it'll probably line up like this:

4:30 Joan Jett
5:30 Poison
7:00 Leppard/Crue
9:00 Leppard/Crue

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Joan will be playing in front of literally 20 people if she goes on at 4:30. I'm sure she'll laugh all the way to the bank but it must be hard to get up and do a great show for an empty stadium every night.

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My sister called today and said if I would drive she would get my wife and I a ticket. So looks like I am going.

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Sorry didn't know youtube was blocked or I just do not know what the hell I am doing. Pretty funny Motley Crue link here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pdQnZLEWNo

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A source is reporting to several metal sites that this tour is almost certainly about to be canceled, not necessarily postponed (although they may try again one day). Rehearsals were supposed to begin in late April/early May, and those clearly won't be able to take place, meaning that the bands (especially Motley Crue, who haven't done this for a while) aren't going to be ready for the tour to start in mid-June even if everything is opened up again shortly before the first date. Under the best of circumstances, some were concerned about Motley's ability to perform, but under these conditions it's almost impossible to move forward without the substantial in-person rehearsals. Then there's all the logistics and the physical building out of the stage and props that go into any major stadium tour, and everything is at a standstill right now.  Add to that some health concerns for several guys, especially Mick Mars and Bret Michaels, who are reportedly concerned about coming out of quarantine too soon because of their underlying conditions, and the source says it's next-to-impossible to move forward at any time in 2020, even in the fall. Of course, there are lots of insurance issues and the financial hit will be enormous to all involved, so there's still some behind-the-scenes scrambling to try to save this any way possible.  Live Nation has everyone's money and won't want to give it back under any circumstances, so they may keep everyone hostage for a year or more to try to get this thing on the road.  That's basically the only reason why an announcement hasn't already been made.

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Yeah, I can't see them canceling this, they're going to list it as "postponed" just like the Stones did so Live Nation can keep the money and not have to refund it..I have $600 right now tied up in Stones and Sammy Hagar/Circle tickets..those 2 bands/acts I'm fine with letting them list it as postponed, I'll go see them even if I have to wait a year but if I had money in any other shows and they were postponed and not canceled I'd be pissed at them basically collecting interest on my money for a year..

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Married Jo wrote: Yeah, I can't see them canceling this, they're going to list it as "postponed" just like the Stones did so Live Nation can keep the money and not have to refund it..I have $600 right now tied up in Stones and Sammy Hagar/Circle tickets..those 2 bands/acts I'm fine with letting them list it as postponed, I'll go see them even if I have to wait a year but if I had money in any other shows and they were postponed and not canceled I'd be pissed at them basically collecting interest on my money for a year..
I have close to a couple of thousand bucks held up right now by Ticketmaster/Live Nation/etc.  A few already announced new dates, some are just TBD, but there is no option to get a refund from these assholes until it's officially announced as canceled.  And if you postpone and you can't make the new date, they tell you it's your responsibility to sell your ticket.  People are getting pissed and I wouldn't be surprised if this leads to another class action lawsuit like the one Ticketmaster just finished weaseling their way out of with their fake "vouchers". 

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srossi wrote: Married Jo wrote: Yeah, I can't see them canceling this, they're going to list it as "postponed" just like the Stones did so Live Nation can keep the money and not have to refund it..I have $600 right now tied up in Stones and Sammy Hagar/Circle tickets..those 2 bands/acts I'm fine with letting them list it as postponed, I'll go see them even if I have to wait a year but if I had money in any other shows and they were postponed and not canceled I'd be pissed at them basically collecting interest on my money for a year..
I have close to a couple of thousand bucks held up right now by Ticketmaster/Live Nation/etc.  A few already announced new dates, some are just TBD, but there is no option to get a refund from these assholes until it's officially announced as canceled.  And if you postpone and you can't make the new date, they tell you it's your responsibility to sell your ticket.  People are getting pissed and I wouldn't be surprised if this leads to another class action lawsuit like the one Ticketmaster just finished weaseling their way out of with their fake "vouchers". 
What's wrong with weaseling you're way out of something that is fake?

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Officially postponed to summer of 2021 with new dates TBA. I'm not holding my breath that this will ever happen.

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