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 Posted: Wed Oct 9th, 2019 09:10 pm
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The earliest Mid-Atlantic stuff on the Network has localised promos from a town in Virginia (I forget the exact town) that was getting it's first live MACW cards. They're pretty funny because half of the guys have to be reminded of the name of the town.

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I saw some promos from Mid-Atlantic Championship Wrestling circa 1982 in an episode that was on the old 24/7 Classics on Demand service and may or may not be on the Network. Rich Landrum held the mic for the wrestlers to address being on TV in either Cincinnati or somewhere in Michigan for the first time. I forget which. No show as scheduled, but localized promos were used with the wrestlers all talking about coming soon to that city as opposed to the town getting the generic set of promos that usually were sent to markets with no card scheduled.

It isn't on the Network, but on YouTube is a promo circa 1980 or 1981 from the Poffo ICW that has Randy Savage and Bob Orton Jr. taking verbal shots at Pat Patterson and Ray Stevens. Angelo had somehow managed to get the show on in the Bay Area. That he went through the trouble of having Randy and Orton, and presumably others from that and possibly future episodes going into that market, cut localized promos for the Bay Area doing the promotion's usual deal of knocking the local wrestling heroes, suggests Angelo intended to run ICW cards there. I don't think that ever happened, however.

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tamalie wrote: I'm not expecting to see this at any time soon if at all, but I'd love to see some raw footage of say two hours of guys cutting house show promos from whatever the promotion they may have stuff like this from. I've been going through YouTube recently watching whatever house show interviews I can find. Assuming the stuff wasn't junked or taped over, the WWE probably has a lot of this lying around. The WWWF/WWF, AWA, JCP, Mid-South, and other groups ran those kinds of promos inserted on tape between the match segments.

As much of a hassle as it would have been, when house show business fell off for the WWF in 1992 and stayed down for years afterwards, but the promotion was still reliant on local syndication to drive house show ticket sales, that would have been a good time to move away from the Events Center generic promos to localized ones. Having Sean Mooney or later Todd Pettengill hype the WWF coming to Pittsburgh Civic Arena with Bret Hart cutting a prerecorded promo on Shawn Michaels or Owen Hart that was used again for the San Francisco, Peoria, Cincinnati, Orlando, and Louisville inserts with only the announcer redoing the city name probably saved time and a bit of money.

However, having localized references and mentions of things that happened at the last card in the event of rematches would always catch the eye of a watching fan, not to mention the fact that the interplay between wrestler and interviewer was absent in the Events Center segments and that back and forth did a lot to catch attention as well, especially while Mean Gene still did the segments.


This would be great.  I enjoyed and was entertained by the localized references.  
I doubt if we ever see anything like that. 

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WWE Network’s Hidden Gems category is set to offer up another deep cut with a legitimately rare release of a 1999 WCW pilot for Telemundo that never was, Festival de Lucha! This show was designed to be a vehicle for the company’s many Mexican stars who plied their trade in the cruiserweight division at the time but it was never picked up and thus just became a footnote in history instead. If the name sounds familiar to veteran readers, that would be because a single bout (an 8-man tag) from the taping was released as a “hidden gem” by itself years ago. That match was unseen then and this far more complete version has gone mostly unseen (bar some apparent repurposing of a few of the matches, though sources on this claim are limited) since then too.

From what we’ve been told, tomorrow’s video will include every match from the taping, which included the following:
Felino, Super Boy & Villano V vs. Kendo, Silver King & Venum
Damien, 
El Mosco & Halloween vs. La Parka, Salsero & Super Calo
Blitzkrieg, Piloto Suicida & Raul vs. El Texano, Rey Misterio Sr. & Villano III

Juventud Guerrera, Pirata Morgan & Psicopata vs. Hector Garza, Konnan & Rey Mysterio Jr.

El Mosco, Felino & Juventud Guerrera vs. Piloto Suicida, 
Raul & Salsero Kaz Hayashi, Psychosis & Ron Rivera vs. Blitzkrieg, Kendo & La Parka

Fidel Sierra, Pierroth Jr., Psicopata & Ricky Santana vs. El Texano, Rey Misterio Sr., Villano III & Villano V

Chris Jericho, Johnny Swinger, Lenny Lane & Norman Smiley vs. Hector Garza, Konnan, Rey Mysterio Jr. & Silver King

Disco Inferno vs. Konnan
9 matches in a little over 2 hours may sound tight but when you consider that the aforementioned 8-man affair barely lasted 10 minutes, the whole thing becomes far more feasible. With that in mind, tomorrow will be the first time that this ill-fated Lucha Lire pilot from WCW will be made available to the public in the purest form possible.

As always, here is the official description:
WCW 01/27/1999 – Festival de Lucha [Duration: 02:07:30]
A who’s who of WCW’s Lucha Libre Superstars, including Rey Mysterio, Juventud Guerrera, Psychosis and more, gather for this aerial extravaganza.
WCW’s Festival de Lucha will be added to the “WWE Hidden Gems” category under the “In-Ring” heading tomorrow.

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A year or two ago at least one match from this taping wound up on the network. The WWF had recently started its Super Astros show. This was a 30 minute weekly show on Univision. It combined the leftover Los Boricuas, the Mexican minis the WWF had under contract for a while, luchadors who mainly came from CMLL like Apolo Dantes and Rey Bucanero, and lucha oriented guys like Taka Michinoku and Shoichi Funaki. The problems were taping at Raw in front of fans who had no idea who these guys were and didn't care as well a failure to recognize that people of Mexican and Puerto Rican descent have little in common culturally apart from language. So Mexican-Americans or Mexican immigrants who wanted to see a lucha libre show had no time for the former Los Boricuas and Puerto Ricans who had seen the WWC down in Puerto Rico or on TV in NYC wanted to see Savio Vega and company, not the lucha libre guys. It lasted about a year and then ended when Smackdown started and the WWF didn't have the time or resources to produce the show.

Konnan had long been bugging Eric Bischoff about having WCW produce a show with all its luchadors that could air on one of the Spanish language networks Stateside and then be sold to TV companies abroad in not only Mexico, but also in Central America where there are a lot of small lucha libre groups inspired by Mexican TV and touring promotions. This taping in Waco, TX at the Ferrell Center on 1/27/99 happened when Bischoff finally broke down and agreed, partly out of not wanting WWF Super Astros to take a market WCW could have had but ignored. The taping had WCW's luchadors, some luchadors brought in from Mexico for the taping, some non WCW luchadors who could work the style, and Disco Inferno who was and is a good friend of Konnan who wasn't a luchador, but had a good gimmick for lucha libre and was almost too generous in his willingness to sell and put over anything. I am not sure why nothing more came of it than this taping. With Univsion not available, Galavision owned by Univision, and the number of Spanish language cable channels still very small, it’s possible that if Telemundo wasn’t interested that there was nowhere to air this show.

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Lmfao at Jimmy Hart being a manager at the taping.



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October's classic drop will be Mid South Episodes.  Going up Monday Oct 21.



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Awesome, I love the midsouth footage



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This Week's Hidden Gems

Here are WWE’s official descriptions for all 3 videos:

NWA Tri-State 04/02/1977 – Harley Race battles Dick Murdoch [Duration: 00:06:23]
Witness the closing moments of Harley Race facing Dick Murdoch from the predecessor to Mid-South Wrestling.

Houston Wrestling 02/22/1985 – Kerry Von Erich faces Gino Hernandez [Duration: 00:14:28]
“The Modern Day Warrior” Kerry Von Erich challenges “Gorgeous” Gino Hernandez for the Texas Heavyweight Title in this contest from Houston.

Mid-South Wrestling 11/11/1985 – “Hacksaw” and Buzz tear down New Orleans [Duration: 01:12:40]
The bitterness between “Hacksaw” Jim Duggan and Buzz Sawyer cannot be contained in their wild showdown. Plus, Jake “The Snake” Roberts, “Hacksaw” Butch Reed and more in action in this Mid-South Wrestling event.

El Corsario & Steve Williams vs. The Bruise Brothers (Mad Dog Boyd & Pork Chop Cash)
Jake Roberts vs. Lord Humongous
Mid-South Tag Team Title Match: Al Perez & Wendell Cooley (c) vs. Eddie Gilbert & The Nightmare
Bounty Match: Butch Reed vs. Dick Slater
No Disqualification Match: Buzz Sawyer vs. Jim Duggan

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Ever since we announced that more Mid-South Wrestling was coming to the WWE Network, a lot of you have been chomping at the bit to find out how much more of the Watts-run territory. Well, WWE Network News can now confirm that 7 more months of 1985 are set to hit the service tomorrow. Here is the full episode listing with full official descriptions:

Mid-South Wrestling 05/04/1985 [Duration: 00:42:05]
“Superstar” Bill Dundee & Terry Taylor battle The Dirty White Boys in tag team action. Jake “The Snake” Roberts goes head-to-head with Brad Armstrong in the semifinal round of the Mid-South TV Title Tournament. See footage of General Skandor Akbar’s heinous attack on “Hacksaw” Jim Duggan during Duggan’s match with Kamala.

Mid-South Wrestling 05/11/1985 [Duration: 00:41:57]
Ted DiBiase & “Dr. Death” Steve Williams defend the Mid-South Tag Team Titles against The Rock ‘n’ Roll Express. “Hacksaw” Jim Duggan gives an update on his health following General Skandor Akbar’s attack. Plus, The Fabulous Freebirds, Jake “The Snake” Roberts and more in action.

Mid-South Wrestling 05/18/1985 [Duration: 00:41:48]
Jake “The Snake” Roberts faces “The Snowman” in the finals of the Mid-South TV Title Tournament. Terry Taylor gives a special Figure-Four Leglock demonstration. Plus, Jim Ross interviews “Hacksaw” Jim Duggan from the burn institute on his progress following General Skandor Akbar’s attack.

Mid-South Wrestling 05/25/1985 [Duration: 00:41:53]
Jake “The Snake” Roberts & The Barbarian take on “Brickhouse” Brown & Brad Armstrong. Plus, “Hacksaw” Jim Duggan returns to get payback on General Skandor Akbar, NWA World Heavyweight Champion Ric Flair is in action and more.

Mid-South Wrestling 06/01/1985 [Duration: 00:42:05]
Terry Taylor defends the North American Championship against “The Nightmare.” Plus, “Hacksaw” Jim Duggan confronts NWA World Heavyweight Champion Ric Flair, Kamala is in action and more.

Mid-South Wrestling 06/08/1985 [Duration: 00:42:06]
See Muhammad Ali get involved in Jake “The Snake” Roberts’ battle with Mid-South TV Champion “The Snowman” in the Superdome. “Hacksaw” Jim Duggan continues his search for payback against General Skandor Akbar and Devastation, Inc. Plus, “Cowboy” Bill Watts, Kamala, Ted DiBiase and more are in action.

Mid-South Wrestling 06/15/1985 [Duration: 00:41:26]
Mid-South Tag Team Champions Ted DiBiase & “Dr. Death” Steve Williams clash with The Fantastics. North American Champion “The Champion” faces “Superstar” Bill Dundee. Plus, The Rock ‘n’ Roll Express, Terry Taylor and more in action.

Mid-South Wrestling 06/22/1985 [Duration: 00:42:09]
General Skandor Akbar’s new protege “The Zambui Express” Kareem Muhammad is in action along with Mid-South TV Champion “The Snowman.” “Dirty” Dutch Mantell clashes with Brad Armstrong. Plus, Dick Murdoch, Jake “The Snake” Roberts, and more in action.

Mid-South Wrestling 06/29/1985 [Duration: 00:42:07]
Ted DiBiase & “Dr. Death” Steve Williams put their Mid-South Tag Team Titles on the line against the Rock ‘n’ Roll Express. “Dirty” Dutch Mantell challenges “The Snowman” for the Mid-South TV Championship. Plus, General Skandor Akbar’s team of Kamala & “The Zambui Express” Kareem Muhammad put their dominance on display.

Mid-South Wrestling 07/06/1985 [Duration: 00:40:45]
Terry Taylor and Ted DiBiase battle for the right to challenge “The Champion” for the North American Title. “The Snowman” puts the Mid-South TV Championship on the line against “Dirty” Dutch Mantell. Plus, The Fantastics, Jake “The Snake” Roberts, Kamala and more in action.

Mid-South Wrestling 07/13/1985 [Duration: 00:41:56]
If “Hacksaw” Jim Duggan can overcome the massive “Zambui Express” Kareem Muhammad, he will face General Skandor Akbar in the ring. Terry Taylor challenges “Dirty” Dutch Mantell for the Mid-South TV Championship. Plus, “Brickhouse” Brown, Ted DiBiase and more in action.

Mid-South Wrestling 07/20/1985 [Duration: 00:41:42]
“Hacksaw” Butch Reed returns while top amateur wrestler Mike Graham makes his Mid-South Wrestling debut against Tommy Pritchard. Plus, Jim Ross interviews country music legend Jerry Reed, and North American Titleholder “The Champion” holds a press conference featuring Sir Oliver Humperdink and Eddie Gilbert.

Mid-South Wrestling 07/27/1985 [Duration: 00:41:38]
“Hacksaw” Jim Duggan & “Cowboy” Bill Watts join forces to take on The Bounty Hunters. General Skandor Akbar continues to wreak havoc on Mid-South Wrestling as he interrupts Mike Graham’s clash with “Dirty” Dutch Mantell. Plus, “Hacksaw” Butch Reed battles Ted DiBiase in an impromptu showdown and more.

Mid-South Wrestling 08/03/1985 [Duration: 00:42:05]
“Dirty” Dutch Mantell tries to regain the Mid-South TV Championship against “Hacksaw” Butch Reed. “Cowboy” Bill Watts and “Hacksaw” Jim Duggan’s rivalry with General Skandor Akbar and Devastation Inc. heats up ahead of their showdown at the Superdome. Plus, Jake “The Snake” Roberts, Ted DiBiase and more in action.

Mid-South Wrestling 08/10/1985 [Duration: 00:41:50]
See highlights of “Hacksaw” Jim Duggan & “Cowboy” Bill Watts’ showdown with Devastation Inc. at the Superdome. North American Heavyweight Champion “The Nightmare” battles his former manager “Hot Stuff” Eddie Gilbert. Plus, “Superstar” Bill Dundee, Humongous and more in action.

Mid-South Wrestling 08/17/1985 [Duration: 00:42:20]
General Skandor Akbar’s newest henchman El Corsario is in action. Plus, “The Nightmare” battles Al Perez, “Hot Stuff” Eddie Gilbert takes on Brody Chase, Humongous clashes with Pat Rose and more.

Mid-South Wrestling 08/24/1985 [Duration: 00:41:26]
The Midnight Rider sends a message to Mid-South Wrestling. “Dirty” Dutch Mantell battles Tommy Rogers. Plus, “Hacksaw” Jim Duggan, Jake “The Snake” Roberts and The Barbarian, “Hacksaw” Butch Reed and more in action.

Mid-South Wrestling 08/31/1985 [Duration: 00:43:34]
“Hacksaw” Jim Duggan battles One Man Gang in a Bounty Match. “Dr. Death” Steve Williams & Bob Sweetan defend the Tag Team Championship against Al Perez & Wendell Cooley. Plus, an appearance by Jake “The Snake” Roberts and more.

Mid-South Wrestling 09/07/1985 [Duration: 00:42:43]
Newly-crowned Mid-South Tag Team Champions Al Perez & Wendell Cooley defend against One Man Gang & Kareem Mohammed. Plus, Jake “The Snake” Roberts faces The Nightmare, Humongous competes in one-on-one action and much more.

Mid-South Wrestling 09/14/1985 [Duration: 00:41:11]
“Dirty” Dutch Mantell & Bill Dundee challenge Al Perez & Wendell Cooley for the Mid-South Tag Team Championship. Plus, The Fantastics, Humongous, an announcement about NWA World Heavyweight Champion Ric Flair, and more.

Mid-South Wrestling 09/21/1985 [Duration: 00:41:21]
“Dr. Death” Steve Williams takes on “Capt. Redneck” Dick Slater for the NWA North American Championship. Plus, “Hacksaw” Butch Reed, “Dirty” Dutch Mantell and more in action.

Mid-South Wrestling 09/28/1985 [Duration: 00:41:26]
Ted DiBiase returns and issues a challenge to NWA World Heavyweight Champion Ric Flair. Plus, Dick Slater, “Mad Dog” Buzz Sawyer, and many more in action.

Mid-South Wrestling 10/05/1985 [Duration: 00:42:10]
Jake “The Snake” Roberts faces El Corsario. Ted DiBiase & “Dr. Death” Steve Williams take on Pat Rose & Tony Faulk. Plus, Dutch Mantell & Bill Dundee compete against The Fantastics, an appearance by Eddie Gilbert and more.

Mid-South Wrestling 10/12/1985 [Duration: 00:40:27]
Ted DiBiase takes on Nick Patrick. Plus, a special interview with NWA World Heavyweight Champion Ric Flair, “Hacksaw” Jim Duggan, Jake “The Snake” Roberts, Dick Slater, and more.

Mid-South Wrestling 10/19/1985 [Duration: 00:42:15]
“Hacksaw” Butch Reed defends the Mid-South Television Championship against El Corsario. Plus, “Hot Stuff” Eddie Gilbert, Bobby Fulton, NWA North American Champion Dick Slater and more in action.

Mid-South Wrestling 10/26/1985 [Duration: 00:42:20]
“Hacksaw” Butch Reed celebrates winning the NWA North American Championship. Jake “The Snake” Roberts takes on “Dirty” Dutch Mantell. Plus, The Bruise Brothers, Humongous, and many more in action.

Mid-South Wrestling 11/02/1985 [Duration: 00:42:03]
A confrontation between Jim Duggan and Dick Slater explodes. Ted DiBiase & “Dr. Death” Steve Williams face Mid-South Tag Team Champions Al Perez & Wendell Cooley, “Hacksaw” Butch Reed faces “Dirty” Dutch Mantell and much more.

Mid-South Wrestling 11/09/1985 [Duration: 00:42:01]
The Bruise Brothers compete in tag team action. Plus, Eddie Gilbert & The Nightmare team up for the first time, Bill Watts interviews NWA World Heavyweight Champion Ric Flair and much more.

Mid-South Wrestling 11/16/1985 [Duration: 00:36:45]
Ric Flair defends the NWA World Heavyweight Championship against Ted DiBiase. Plus, “Hacksaw” Jim Duggan takes on El Corsario, The Bruise Brothers in action, Eddie Gilbert unveils a special portrait, and more.

Mid-South Wrestling 11/23/1985 [Duration: 00:36:58]
Ted DiBiase reacts to his World Heavyweight Championship Match from the previous week. Plus, “The Hacksaws” Jim Duggan & Butch Reed face “Dr. Death” Steve Williams & Rob Ricksteiner, Dick Slater & Buzz Sawyer take to the ring and more.

Mid-South Wrestling 11/30/1985 [Duration: 00:41:56]
Jake “The Snake” Roberts takes on Rob Ricksteiner. Eddie Gilbert & The Nightmare face Steve Doll & Brad “Ring-O.” Plus, “Dr. Death” Steve Williams, Dick Slater and many more in action.

Mid-South Wrestling 12/07/1985 [Duration: 00:42:56]
NWA World Heavyweight Champion Ric Flair reacts to the disciplinary actions taken against him. Plus, “The Hacksaws” Jim Duggan & Butch Reed compete in tag team action, the Eddie Gilbert portrait is awarded and much more.

Mid-South Wrestling 12/14/1985 [Duration: 00:41:59]
The Mid-South Television Championship Tournament gets underway, featuring competitors such as Jake “The Snake” Roberts, “Hot Stuff” Eddie Gilbert, Nick Patrick, and more.



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That’s an awesome drop



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Is the TV where the Freebirds blind JYD up? I've always heard of that angle but never seen it



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The Mid-South footage of the Freebirds blinding JYD has never made it into tape trading circles to my knowledge and is not currently on WWE Network. My understanding was the Watts family had the footage, but it was on a tape format that would require a lot of time and effort to convert. If that was the case, the WWE has it, but has not yet released it. I hope they do have it somewhere. When the Freebirds were in Georgia about a year later, maybe a little less, they reran the angle there with JYD who came in for some shots and footage of that has been on YouTube within the past year.

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Footage of the 6/9/80 New Orleans Municipal Auditorium Gordy/Roberts-JYD/Robley no-DQ tag title match with the original blinding, taken from the WGNO-26 New Orleans airing, has been on Youtube for almost 4 years. Not the best quality, but certainly watchable. Runs about 7 minutes including a discussion between Robley and Bill Watts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEmIIIfShVo

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Thanks for the link, I've never seen that. Was there a big blowoff to this feud/angle?



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