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Mat technician and professional film comedian the Blue Meanie started a thread on KKKlassics  about the demolition of the Philly Spectrum. He posted a very cool link which had a day by day calendar of Spectrum events going back to when it opened in 1967. On October 18, 1969, it showed wrestling was at the Spectrum but gave no other details.

Usually this card is acknowledged as the first Spectrum pro wrestling card.

August 3, 1974 - Philadelphia, PA - Spectrum

Larry Zbyszko over Pete Doherty 8:22

Haystacks Calhoun beat Sylvano Sousa & Tony Altimore 5:44 (handicap match)
Shozo Kobyashi beat Ron Fuller 7:58
Johnny Valiant beat Bob Armstrong 6:06
Jimmy Valiant over Don Muraco 11:23
Bobby Duncum beat Tony Garea 3:01
Jay Strongbow beat Otto Von Heller 5:36
Victor Rivera over Toru Tanaka 8:19

20 Man Battle Royal:

Bobby Duncum W
WWWF Title Match:

Bruno Sammartino W/COR Killer Kowalski

On the previously mentioned October 18, 1969, I have the WWWF doing a "B" show in Connellsville (a fairly regular stop on the western PA circuit). This card even had Sammartino on it which you would figure if the WWWF was trying to break in a new 18000 seat arena they would have the champ in on top.

October 18, 1969 - Connellsville, PA - Connellsville Area High School Gym

Bill Miller & Johnny DeFazio vs. Lou Albano & Tony Altimore

Battman vs. Ivan Koloff

WWWF Title Match:

Bruno Sammartino vs. Waldo Von Erich

So was the Spectrum website wrong? Could it have possibly been an NWA card? Is Blue Meanie really the next Gleason?



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give me a week or so, and i will give you the the final decision.  I will research the 3 philadephia papers that carried wrestling information for the Spectrum.  I will look at the dates.  The 1969 one just sounds wrong.

What was the link to that site?

if it was their at that date, i doubt it was NWA.  I think the same promoter before Zacko was promoting Phila and Harrisiburg in 1969.   Or it might be zacko himslef.  Not sure if he took over PA in 1968 or 1969.   So we shall find out

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Here's the link Ron

http://www.rememberthespectrum.com/calendar/calendarView.asp?mm=10/1/1969

It's really alot of fun cruising around on that calendar. I wish someone would do an all purpose thing like that for MSG.

edit: you know if you look a little closer on that very page I linked there are a couple of boo-boos. First of all, I don't think (and please correct me if I'm wrong) that the NHL had a team in Quebec in 1969 (see 10/9).

Plus, here's the final nail in the coffin. Black Sabbath hadn't even released their first album yet in October of 1969 and they are showing an Ozzy show on 10/25. Without a doubt that is wrong.

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May 17, 1975 has been around for years as a wrestling date, but their calendar shows it to be a Eagles Concert.

So i need to check that date also.

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Ron wrote: May 17, 1975 has been around for years as a wrestling date, but their calendar shows it to be a Eagles Concert.

So i need to check that date also.


Christ do I hate the Eagles.

That was a Saturday so it may well have been an afternoon shot. Do you have the full results for the 5/17 card? All I have is the Bruno result with Bruno losing by COR to Arion.



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i'll  finalize the dates for 1974 and 1975 with the newspaper clippings this coming tuesday night so everything is filled in for all the missing dates that only have one match listed.

I do not see the wrestling and then the concert happening.   Concerts take a while to set up the stage check equipment out and etc before the concerts.   So I will let everyone know Tuesday night what was what.

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There may very well have been a card at the Spectrum on October 18, 1969. I have this clipping advertising a card there with the main event of "World Champion" Johnny Barend vs. Mark Lewin on that date....



This may have been one of those Bobby Davis "Wrestling Show Classics" cards. Wasn't he promoting in Ohio / Pennsylvania arounf that time frame? I don't have any other info or clips on this card - not even sure if it took place.

This clip is from the 10/15/69 issue of the Bucks County Courier.

 

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thanks.  that answered that question.  :)

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El Olympico wrote: There may very well have been a card at the Spectrum on October 18, 1969. I have this clipping advertising a card there with the main event of "World Champion" Johnny Barend vs. Mark Lewin on that date....



This may have been one of those Bobby Davis "Wrestling Show Classics" cards. Wasn't he promoting in Ohio / Pennsylvania arounf that time frame? I don't have any other info or clips on this card - not even sure if it took place.

This clip is from the 10/15/69 issue of the Bucks County Courier.

 

Duuuuuuude. Absolutely AWESOME find. That was really from out of left field.

Now get back on the research pile and find out why Ozzy was playing the Spectrum a full year before the first Sabbath record came out :D:D



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WongLee wrote: El Olympico wrote: There may very well have been a card at the Spectrum on October 18, 1969. I have this clipping advertising a card there with the main event of "World Champion" Johnny Barend vs. Mark Lewin on that date....



This may have been one of those Bobby Davis "Wrestling Show Classics" cards. Wasn't he promoting in Ohio / Pennsylvania arounf that time frame? I don't have any other info or clips on this card - not even sure if it took place.

This clip is from the 10/15/69 issue of the Bucks County Courier.

 

Duuuuuuude. Absolutely AWESOME find. That was really from out of left field.

Now get back on the research pile and find out why Ozzy was playing the Spectrum a full year before the first Sabbath record came out :D:D


Was Ozzy doing a solo concert? Did he do this much back while he was with Sabbath? I've never heard of that before. Something tells me that's a typo. I thought Ozzy only put his first solo album out in the early '80's.

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I can't document this via clippings (maybe someone else can) but since we are "sports and wrestling" my uncle used to tell me that the Spectrum would host NBA basketball doubleheaders (in the 60s)

For example, game one might be Philly vs New York and then game two would be Detroit vs St Louis. Yes, in Philadelphia.

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Thanks....That Ozzy listing has got to be an error. According to what I have seen, the 76ers were playing the Cincy Royals on that date at The Spectrum.

BTW, the Flyers game vs Quebec was an exhibition game with the Quebec Aces, which was their AHL affiliate at the time.

Anyone know anything more about what promotion that 10/18 card could have been from?

 

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beejmi wrote: I can't document this via clippings (maybe someone else can) but sine we are "sports and wrestling" my uncle used to tell me that the Spectrum would host NBA basketball doubleheaders (in the 60s)

For example, game one might be Philly vs New York and then game two would be Detroit vs St Louis. Yes, in Philadelphia.

According to the website calendar on the link that the next Gleason posted on Klassics, your uncle was absolutely right. There were a ton of NBA doubleheaders in the 60's with one of those games obviously being a road game for both teams. Not sure what this accomplished especially since Philly wasn't a new market for the NBA.



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