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This is getting slightly scary now.  Once the horse leaves the barn, this stuff will spread exponentially.
http://news.yahoo.com/state-health-officials-2nd-ebola-case-texas-102955708.html



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What are the chances its gone airborne?



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Should I actually worry about this, or is this another Swine/bird flu bullshit panic story?



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This will certainly be Obama's Katrina. i'm sorry, but shouldn't all travel be restricted from these plagued countries? Neighboring African countries have restricted travel to and from these countries. It's pretty sad that these third world countries have more sense than the people running our country. I certainly do not wish harm on any politicians family, but maybe if one of their family members caught this disease, they'd learn not to let politics or self image get in the way of common sense procedures.

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victhestick wrote: Should I actually worry about this, or is this another Swine/bird flu bullshit panic story?
Don't worry one bit. This is a hoax. Who cares if a nurse who took full precautions contracted this virus. That must have been a pure coincidence.

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I don't give a shit honestly, if it happens it happens..chances are I'm going to be fine, worrying about it will probably kill me before getting it will..



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Married Jo wrote: I don't give a shit honestly, if it happens it happens..chances are I'm going to be fine, worrying about it will probably kill me before getting it will..
Do you have any children?

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Hysteria.  The odds of the average person getting this is virtually zero.  We have a crazy local politician here screaming about how you can get it on the subway through touching a sweaty pole.  This is early '80s AIDS silliness here. 

If anyone on this board gets it, it will be me.  I work with the U.N. and have colleagues helping out with the crisis.  They could conceivably get it and bring it back, although the re-entry regulations are very strict for the U.N., but as I'm not planning on bathing in their blood anytime soon, I'm not very concerned.  My chance of getting it is infinitesimal, yours is non-existent.  It's not airborne.

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BlueThunder wrote: victhestick wrote: Should I actually worry about this, or is this another Swine/bird flu bullshit panic story?
Don't worry one bit. This is a hoax. Who cares if a nurse who took full precautions contracted this virus. That must have been a pure coincidence.

Highly doubtful the nurse took full precautions. Most medical staff don't when it comes to shit like C.diff and MRSA and VRE. Sure they'll gear up for the assessments, but majority are lax when it comes to complete compliance.

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srossi wrote: Hysteria.  The odds of the average person getting this is virtually zero.  We have a crazy local politician here screaming about how you can get it on the subway through touching a sweaty pole.  This is early '80s AIDS silliness here. 

If anyone on this board gets it, it will be me.  I work with the U.N. and have colleagues helping out with the crisis.  They could conceivably get it and bring it back, although the re-entry regulations are very strict for the U.N., but as I'm not planning on bathing in their blood anytime soon, I'm not very concerned.  My chance of getting it is infinitesimal, yours is non-existent.  It's not airborne.

Bingo. All the worrying = 



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BlueThunder wrote: Married Jo wrote: I don't give a shit honestly, if it happens it happens..chances are I'm going to be fine, worrying about it will probably kill me before getting it will..
Do you have any children?

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srossi wrote:

If anyone on this board gets it, it will be me. 
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WongLee wrote: srossi wrote:

If anyone on this board gets it, it will be me. 
Angelic Assassin asked me to ask you if that's a promise.

Well he asked me not to reveal my Ebola status for an indeterminate amount of time until he's had a chance to read the test results himself.  He'd hate for it to be spoiled. 



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Principal_Raditch wrote: BlueThunder wrote: victhestick wrote: Should I actually worry about this, or is this another Swine/bird flu bullshit panic story?
Don't worry one bit. This is a hoax. Who cares if a nurse who took full precautions contracted this virus. That must have been a pure coincidence.

Highly doubtful the nurse took full precautions. Most medical staff don't when it comes to shit like C.diff and MRSA and VRE. Sure they'll gear up for the assessments, but majority are lax when it comes to complete compliance.

Even if she didn't follow full protocol, that tells me that it's not very difficult to catch. I hope no one is stupid enough to believe our president when he said you couldn't catch it while being on a bus with an infected person.
Even if it's easy or hard to catch, the bottom line is that it should have never brought to our country. A sane country would restrict all travel. If we're going to send personnel there, they should follow strict rules when re-entering the country. They should be put in a neutral area for a month to make sure they're not exhibiting any symptoms.

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BlueThunder wrote: Principal_Raditch wrote: BlueThunder wrote: victhestick wrote: Should I actually worry about this, or is this another Swine/bird flu bullshit panic story?
Don't worry one bit. This is a hoax. Who cares if a nurse who took full precautions contracted this virus. That must have been a pure coincidence.

Highly doubtful the nurse took full precautions. Most medical staff don't when it comes to shit like C.diff and MRSA and VRE. Sure they'll gear up for the assessments, but majority are lax when it comes to complete compliance.

Even if she didn't follow full protocol, that tells me that it's not very difficult to catch. I hope no one is stupid enough to believe our president when he said you couldn't catch it while being on a bus with an infected person.
Even if it's easy or hard to catch, the bottom line is that it should have never brought to our country. A sane country would restrict all travel. If we're going to send personnel there, they should follow strict rules when re-entering the country. They should be put in a neutral area for a month to make sure they're not exhibiting any symptoms.

I think this is a cover-up. Obama is downplaying this because he doesn't want people to know that he's the one who brought Ebola to America while sneaking across the border from Liberia in an effort to convert us all to Muslims. And if you don't think Liberia borders us, then you've clearly bought into the lies of the cartologists on Obama's payroll. Oh yes, the plan is working. I'm praying to Allah whild bleeding out of my eye sockets as I type this   



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With Flu season about to hit, I can only imagine the panic from the uneducated masses thinking every person next to them with a cough and sniffles has Ebola. Especially in the Midwest and South, which have a disproportionate amount of morons when it comes to using common sense on medical issues.

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Principal_Raditch wrote: With Flu season about to hit, I can only imagine the panic from the uneducated masses thinking every person next to them with a cough and sniffles has Ebola. Especially in the Midwest and South, which have a disproportionate amount of morons when it comes to using common sense on medical issues.
And the funny thing is, about 200,000 people are hospitalized every year due to the flu and a number of them die, making the flu far more dangerous.



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srossi wrote: Principal_Raditch wrote: With Flu season about to hit, I can only imagine the panic from the uneducated masses thinking every person next to them with a cough and sniffles has Ebola. Especially in the Midwest and South, which have a disproportionate amount of morons when it comes to using common sense on medical issues.
And the funny thing is, about 200,000 people are hospitalized every year due to the flu and a number of them die, making the flu far more dangerous.

If you two were alive in 1918, you'd be telling everyone that there's nothing to see and move on. 
I did think about the upcoming flu season. I had a slight fever yesterday, but ebola never entered my mind. If i lived in Dallas, I probably would have had a different mindset.

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BlueThunder wrote: srossi wrote: Principal_Raditch wrote: With Flu season about to hit, I can only imagine the panic from the uneducated masses thinking every person next to them with a cough and sniffles has Ebola. Especially in the Midwest and South, which have a disproportionate amount of morons when it comes to using common sense on medical issues.
And the funny thing is, about 200,000 people are hospitalized every year due to the flu and a number of them die, making the flu far more dangerous.

If you two were alive in 1918, you'd be telling everyone that there's nothing to see and move on. 
I did think about the upcoming flu season. I had a slight fever yesterday, but ebola never entered my mind. If i lived in Dallas, I probably would have had a different mindset.

I've probably read 500 Ebola documents these past few months, long before anyone in the U.S. was talking about this.  I'm recruiting people to go over there and I'm helping to design our internal emergency team site and document repository.  I've been completely immersed in all things Ebola.  But if you want to start a panic based on a few anti-Obama talking points you got from talk radio, then I'm sure you know better.

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Perhaps I am ignorant but it's like the 'bird flu' or whatever the last scare was

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beejmi wrote: Perhaps I am ignorant but it's like the 'bird flu' or whatever the last scare was
It's a lot worse in the countries that are actually affected. The U.S. is not one of them. 



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srossi wrote: BlueThunder wrote: srossi wrote: Principal_Raditch wrote: With Flu season about to hit, I can only imagine the panic from the uneducated masses thinking every person next to them with a cough and sniffles has Ebola. Especially in the Midwest and South, which have a disproportionate amount of morons when it comes to using common sense on medical issues.
And the funny thing is, about 200,000 people are hospitalized every year due to the flu and a number of them die, making the flu far more dangerous.

If you two were alive in 1918, you'd be telling everyone that there's nothing to see and move on. 
I did think about the upcoming flu season. I had a slight fever yesterday, but ebola never entered my mind. If i lived in Dallas, I probably would have had a different mindset.

I've probably read 500 Ebola documents these past few months, long before anyone in the U.S. was talking about this.  I'm recruiting people to go over there and I'm helping to design our internal emergency team site and document repository.  I've been completely immersed in all things Ebola.  But if you want to start a panic based on a few anti-Obama talking points you got from talk radio, then I'm sure you know better.

Fine, you're the expert. How did the nurse contract Ebola? Is it unreasonable to think that she may have a boyfriend who may start exhibiting symptoms shortly? 

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BlueThunder wrote: srossi wrote: BlueThunder wrote: srossi wrote: Principal_Raditch wrote: With Flu season about to hit, I can only imagine the panic from the uneducated masses thinking every person next to them with a cough and sniffles has Ebola. Especially in the Midwest and South, which have a disproportionate amount of morons when it comes to using common sense on medical issues.
And the funny thing is, about 200,000 people are hospitalized every year due to the flu and a number of them die, making the flu far more dangerous.

If you two were alive in 1918, you'd be telling everyone that there's nothing to see and move on. 
I did think about the upcoming flu season. I had a slight fever yesterday, but ebola never entered my mind. If i lived in Dallas, I probably would have had a different mindset.

I've probably read 500 Ebola documents these past few months, long before anyone in the U.S. was talking about this.  I'm recruiting people to go over there and I'm helping to design our internal emergency team site and document repository.  I've been completely immersed in all things Ebola.  But if you want to start a panic based on a few anti-Obama talking points you got from talk radio, then I'm sure you know better.

Fine, you're the expert. How did the nurse contract Ebola? Is it unreasonable to think that she may have a boyfriend who may start exhibiting symptoms shortly? 

The news says one person was around her while she was infected and he's being monitored constantly, as is her dog. I'm not sure what else you want them to do. They'll be quarantined if they show symptoms, which is a big if, and they're in no position to infect anyone in the meantime.  She's not the monkey from Outbreak. It's not going to continue to spread. It ended with her.  It's harder to get Ebola than HIV and Magic Johnson's wife never got HIV after having unprotected sex with him hundreds of times.  Maybe that puts into perspective exactly how hard it is to get Ebola.  The nurse was extremely unlucky, but she was dealing with an Ebola patient and did something wrong and still the odds were overwhelmingly against her getting it, but people get struck by lightning too. 

As an average person considering the risk of getting Ebola, ask yourself how much blood and feces you sort through on a daily basis.  If the answer is "none", you're not getting Ebola.  If the answer is "a little", ask yourself what the odds are that the person whose shit and blood you're sifting through is at high risk for Ebola and even if they are how likely it is that it can be transmitted to you.  If the answer is "tons of shit and blood, more than I can possibly calculate", then consider yourself lucky if you get Ebola and die because your life sounds miserable, but you still probably won't get it.

And on a serious note, one of the biggest ways that it's spreading in places like Liberia is through the improper handling of corpses and burials of those infected, through both ignorance and corruption.  I've read more about this shit than a gravedigger, more than I ever wanted to know.  And that's not going to be a problem here in America.  So you can take the almost non-existent odds and lower them another 50%.  

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You know, this could be a really good way to reduce unemployment. Now I have a way to eliminate my competition when I decide I'd like to take on the Nursing Director Job at my hospital.

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srossi wrote: BlueThunder wrote: srossi wrote: BlueThunder wrote: srossi wrote: Principal_Raditch wrote: With Flu season about to hit, I can only imagine the panic from the uneducated masses thinking every person next to them with a cough and sniffles has Ebola. Especially in the Midwest and South, which have a disproportionate amount of morons when it comes to using common sense on medical issues.
And the funny thing is, about 200,000 people are hospitalized every year due to the flu and a number of them die, making the flu far more dangerous.

If you two were alive in 1918, you'd be telling everyone that there's nothing to see and move on. 
I did think about the upcoming flu season. I had a slight fever yesterday, but ebola never entered my mind. If i lived in Dallas, I probably would have had a different mindset.

I've probably read 500 Ebola documents these past few months, long before anyone in the U.S. was talking about this.  I'm recruiting people to go over there and I'm helping to design our internal emergency team site and document repository.  I've been completely immersed in all things Ebola.  But if you want to start a panic based on a few anti-Obama talking points you got from talk radio, then I'm sure you know better.

Fine, you're the expert. How did the nurse contract Ebola? Is it unreasonable to think that she may have a boyfriend who may start exhibiting symptoms shortly? 

The news says one person was around her while she was infected and he's being monitored constantly, as is her dog. I'm not sure what else you want them to do. They'll be quarantined if they show symptoms, which is a big if, and they're in no position to infect anyone in the meantime.  She's not the monkey from Outbreak. It's not going to continue to spread. It ended with her.  It's harder to get Ebola than HIV and Magic Johnson's wife never got HIV after having unprotected sex with him hundreds of times.  Maybe that puts into perspective exactly how hard it is to get Ebola.  The nurse was extremely unlucky, but she was dealing with an Ebola patient and did something wrong and still the odds were overwhelmingly against her getting it, but people get struck by lightning too. 

As an average person considering the risk of getting Ebola, ask yourself how much blood and feces you sort through on a daily basis.  If the answer is "none", you're not getting Ebola.  If the answer is "a little", ask yourself what the odds are that the person whose shit and blood you're sifting through is at high risk for Ebola and even if they are how likely it is that it can be transmitted to you.  If the answer is "tons f shit and blood, more than I can possibly calculate", then consider yourself lucky if you get Ebola and die because your life sounds miserable, but you still probably won't get it.

You know, this is one of the rare times I pray I'm wrong. It should have never come down to this. If she dies, the common response will be "oh well, only one person died". That's one person too many. Sorry, but not one American life is worth all the people living in those plagued countries. By sheer ignorance, they've managed to cause the spread. Yeah, Bush meat is equal to what we civilized people eat.

Even if she's cured, there's always the threat of another one coming over. Seriously, what is wrong with shutting down travel to and from these areas? I really want to hear this.

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BlueThunder wrote: srossi wrote: BlueThunder wrote: srossi wrote: BlueThunder wrote: srossi wrote: Principal_Raditch wrote: With Flu season about to hit, I can only imagine the panic from the uneducated masses thinking every person next to them with a cough and sniffles has Ebola. Especially in the Midwest and South, which have a disproportionate amount of morons when it comes to using common sense on medical issues.
And the funny thing is, about 200,000 people are hospitalized every year due to the flu and a number of them die, making the flu far more dangerous.

If you two were alive in 1918, you'd be telling everyone that there's nothing to see and move on. 
I did think about the upcoming flu season. I had a slight fever yesterday, but ebola never entered my mind. If i lived in Dallas, I probably would have had a different mindset.

I've probably read 500 Ebola documents these past few months, long before anyone in the U.S. was talking about this.  I'm recruiting people to go over there and I'm helping to design our internal emergency team site and document repository.  I've been completely immersed in all things Ebola.  But if you want to start a panic based on a few anti-Obama talking points you got from talk radio, then I'm sure you know better.

Fine, you're the expert. How did the nurse contract Ebola? Is it unreasonable to think that she may have a boyfriend who may start exhibiting symptoms shortly? 

The news says one person was around her while she was infected and he's being monitored constantly, as is her dog. I'm not sure what else you want them to do. They'll be quarantined if they show symptoms, which is a big if, and they're in no position to infect anyone in the meantime.  She's not the monkey from Outbreak. It's not going to continue to spread. It ended with her.  It's harder to get Ebola than HIV and Magic Johnson's wife never got HIV after having unprotected sex with him hundreds of times.  Maybe that puts into perspective exactly how hard it is to get Ebola.  The nurse was extremely unlucky, but she was dealing with an Ebola patient and did something wrong and still the odds were overwhelmingly against her getting it, but people get struck by lightning too. 

As an average person considering the risk of getting Ebola, ask yourself how much blood and feces you sort through on a daily basis.  If the answer is "none", you're not getting Ebola.  If the answer is "a little", ask yourself what the odds are that the person whose shit and blood you're sifting through is at high risk for Ebola and even if they are how likely it is that it can be transmitted to you.  If the answer is "tons f shit and blood, more than I can possibly calculate", then consider yourself lucky if you get Ebola and die because your life sounds miserable, but you still probably won't get it.

You know, this is one of the rare times I pray I'm wrong. It should have never come down to this. If she dies, the common response will be "oh well, only one person died". That's one person too many. Sorry, but not one American life is worth all the people living in those plagued countries. By sheer ignorance, they've managed to cause the spread. Yeah, Bush meat is equal to what we civilized people eat.

Even if she's cured, there's always the threat of another one coming over. Seriously, what is wrong with shutting down travel to and from these areas? I really want to hear this.

Well if you're going to change it from mass extinction to "one person too many" than there's nothing to say since one person already got it, and 2 or 3 more might before it's said and done.  There's no practical way to ensure that no one from these areas can enter the country anyway since many will be humanitarian aid workers who we can't prevent from coming home, or people coming through Europe first where this won't be enforced.  So there's not much to say.  You can use the "one person too many" line for anything.  Tens of thousands of people die in car crashes every year.  Is that worth the convenience of being able to get somewhere a few days earlier?  Good luck banning cars though.  People die.  Sucks if you're one of them but it happens to all of us eventually.  This is still incommensurate with the hysteria surrounding it, and the legitimate belief that the ignorant have that we're all at risk.  We're not.  



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When you study things you tend to learn.  And my work on the Ebola Team Site will certainly be added to my resume since it's something very different than anything I've ever done before.



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srossi wrote: BlueThunder wrote: srossi wrote: BlueThunder wrote: srossi wrote: BlueThunder wrote: srossi wrote: Principal_Raditch wrote: With Flu season about to hit, I can only imagine the panic from the uneducated masses thinking every person next to them with a cough and sniffles has Ebola. Especially in the Midwest and South, which have a disproportionate amount of morons when it comes to using common sense on medical issues.
And the funny thing is, about 200,000 people are hospitalized every year due to the flu and a number of them die, making the flu far more dangerous.

If you two were alive in 1918, you'd be telling everyone that there's nothing to see and move on. 
I did think about the upcoming flu season. I had a slight fever yesterday, but ebola never entered my mind. If i lived in Dallas, I probably would have had a different mindset.

I've probably read 500 Ebola documents these past few months, long before anyone in the U.S. was talking about this.  I'm recruiting people to go over there and I'm helping to design our internal emergency team site and document repository.  I've been completely immersed in all things Ebola.  But if you want to start a panic based on a few anti-Obama talking points you got from talk radio, then I'm sure you know better.

Fine, you're the expert. How did the nurse contract Ebola? Is it unreasonable to think that she may have a boyfriend who may start exhibiting symptoms shortly? 

The news says one person was around her while she was infected and he's being monitored constantly, as is her dog. I'm not sure what else you want them to do. They'll be quarantined if they show symptoms, which is a big if, and they're in no position to infect anyone in the meantime.  She's not the monkey from Outbreak. It's not going to continue to spread. It ended with her.  It's harder to get Ebola than HIV and Magic Johnson's wife never got HIV after having unprotected sex with him hundreds of times.  Maybe that puts into perspective exactly how hard it is to get Ebola.  The nurse was extremely unlucky, but she was dealing with an Ebola patient and did something wrong and still the odds were overwhelmingly against her getting it, but people get struck by lightning too. 

As an average person considering the risk of getting Ebola, ask yourself how much blood and feces you sort through on a daily basis.  If the answer is "none", you're not getting Ebola.  If the answer is "a little", ask yourself what the odds are that the person whose shit and blood you're sifting through is at high risk for Ebola and even if they are how likely it is that it can be transmitted to you.  If the answer is "tons f shit and blood, more than I can possibly calculate", then consider yourself lucky if you get Ebola and die because your life sounds miserable, but you still probably won't get it.

You know, this is one of the rare times I pray I'm wrong. It should have never come down to this. If she dies, the common response will be "oh well, only one person died". That's one person too many. Sorry, but not one American life is worth all the people living in those plagued countries. By sheer ignorance, they've managed to cause the spread. Yeah, Bush meat is equal to what we civilized people eat.

Even if she's cured, there's always the threat of another one coming over. Seriously, what is wrong with shutting down travel to and from these areas? I really want to hear this.

Well if you're going to change it from mass extinction to "one person too many" than there's nothing to say since one person already got it, and 2 or 3 more might before it's said and done.  There's no practical way to ensure that no one from these areas can enter the country anyway since many will be humanitarian aid workers who we can't prevent from coming home, or people coming through Europe first where this won't be enforced.  So there's not much to say.  You can use the "one person too many" line for anything.  Tens of thousands of people die in car crashes every year.  Is that worth the convenience of being able to get somewhere a few days earlier?  Good luck banning cars though.  People die.  Sucks if you're one of them but it happens to all of us eventually.  This is still incommensurate with the hysteria surrounding it, and the legitimate belief that the ignorant have that we're all at risk.  We're not.  

Oh boy, I've heard of apples and oranges before, but this takes the cake. I stated earlier that if a do-gooder wants to go to these areas, let them go at their own risk, and only allow them back under the strictest conditions. 
Your hypothetical scenarios of handling feces and blood is beyond ignorant. Here, let me help you out.TransmissionLanguage:English[/url] [url=http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/transmission/#] ShareWest Africa Ebola Outbreak (Infographic)[PDF - 1 page]
Facts About Ebola in the U.S. (Infographic)[PDF - 1 page]
Because the natural reservoir host of Ebola viruses has not yet been identified, the manner in which the virus first appears in a human at the start of an outbreak is unknown. However, researchers believe that the first patient becomes infected through contact with an infected animal.
When an infection does occur in humans, the virus can be spread in several ways to others. Ebola is spread through direct contact (through broken skin or mucous membranes in, for example, the eyes, nose, or mouth) with
  • blood or body fluids (including but not limited to urine, saliva, sweat, feces, vomit, breast milk, and semen) of a person who is sick with Ebola
  • objects (like needles and syringes) that have been contaminated with the virus
  • infected animals
  • Ebola is not spread through the air or by water, or in general, by food. However, in Africa, Ebola may be spread as a result of handling bushmeat (wild animals hunted for food) and contact with infected bats. There is no evidence that mosquitos or other insects can transmit Ebola virus. Only mammals (for example, humans, bats, monkeys, and apes) have shown the ability to become infected with and spread Ebola virus.

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Isn't a sneeze a bodily fluid?

Oh, and mark my words, if this poor girl survives, the usual assholes will be complaining about the racist treatment when it comes to this disease. Sadly, the major news media will give these functional retards air time.

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When you study things you tend to learn.  And my work on the Ebola Team Site will certainly be added to my resume since it's something very different than anything I've ever done before.
Translation to English= "I checked Wikipedia and Im not too proud to brag about it."



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BlueThunder wrote: Isn't a sneeze a bodily fluid?
Transmitting through a sneeze would make it airborne. There would have to be an incredible amount of saliva directly into your mouth or open wound to even be at risk of getting it that way (which doesn't mean you even actually will get it), a lot more than a sneeze. Again, these are all the same arguments used about HIV in the '80s. Just because something can technically be transmitted that way doesn't mean it realistically will. 

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Portalesman wrote: srossi wrote: gwlee7 wrote: He's well rounded.
When you study things you tend to learn.  And my work on the Ebola Team Site will certainly be added to my resume since it's something very different than anything I've ever done before.
Translation to English= "I checked Wikipedia and Im not too proud to brag about it."

Jeez, at least travlr gives credit to his sources, which is mainly wikipedia.

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srossi wrote: gwlee7 wrote: He's well rounded.
When you study things you tend to learn.  And my work on the Ebola Team Site will certainly be added to my resume since it's something very different than anything I've ever done before.

He's probably talking about what he suspects is your body shape. :)

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on this topic, anyway, Rossi's posts are sensible and welcome...the hoopla surrounding Ebola in the US is borderline ridiculous and the hysterics need to be calmed down

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What fun would that be? This is America, we have to have a new panic on at least a monthly basis.

Remember how H1N1 was going to kill us all? Radon? Bird flu? Y2K? The end of the Mayan calender?

Jesus H Baldheaded Christ, people love a good panic, let them have their fun with this one until the next big panic on something totally different comes around.



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katook wrote: What fun would that be? This is America, we have to have a new panic on at least a monthly basis.

Remember how H1N1 was going to kill us all? Radon? Bird flu? Y2K? The end of the Mayan calender?

Jesus H Baldheaded Christ, people love a good panic, let them have their fun with this one until the next big panic on something totally different comes around.

You left off AIDS,Spanish Flu, and this latest flu which coincidently popped up after the arrival the Central American horde. You explain to the parents of the two American parents whose kids died to this virus that there's no need to panic. 

Yeah, why should we worry about a silly little disease that some experts have said could ravage Africa. Because of Globalization, endemics easily become pandemics.

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khawk wrote: srossi wrote: gwlee7 wrote: He's well rounded.
When you study things you tend to learn.  And my work on the Ebola Team Site will certainly be added to my resume since it's something very different than anything I've ever done before.

He's probably talking about what he suspects is your body shape. :)

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I heard it was the ISILites.

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WongLee wrote: I blame the Jews
This isn't the 1300s where they poisoned the wells.

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http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/10000-ebola-cases-week-26179330



Here's some more scare mongering by the WHO. Hey, who cares if this disease grows leaps and bounds, at least we have racism under control.

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WongLee wrote: srossi wrote:

If anyone on this board gets it, it will be me. 
Angelic Assassin asked me to ask you if that's a promise.
LOL!  Just saw this.  I don't want rossi to get Ebola.  I don't hate Ebola that much!



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Portalesman wrote: http://www.newschannel10.com/story/26797642/breaking-patient-with-ebola-like-symptoms-prompts-lock-down-at-bsa


Well, might be hanging out at my back door.


I call bs on this story and the news about the second worker contracting ebola. I don't believe in lighting striking twice. Remember, it's a very difficult disease to catch.

"The news says one person was around her while she was infected and he's being monitored constantly, as is her dog. I'm not sure what else you want them to do. They'll be quarantined if they show symptoms, which is a big if, and they're in no position to infect anyone in the meantime.  She's not the monkey from Outbreak. It's not going to continue to spread. It ended with her.  It's harder to get Ebola than HIV and Magic Johnson's wife never got HIV after having unprotected sex with him hundreds of times.  Maybe that puts into perspective exactly how hard it is to get Ebola.  The nurse was extremely unlucky, but she was dealing with an Ebola patient and did something wrong and still the odds were overwhelmingly against her getting it, but people get struck by lightning too.  "

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Nice try but I'm talking about the average person getting it. I said in another post that a few more medical personal will probably get it before it's all said and done. The people at this hospital were unclear on the proper protocol in handling these patients and still only 2 got it. Write back when a mailman or accountant gets it. This is not a pandemic. 



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Portalesman wrote: http://www.newschannel10.com/story/26797642/breaking-patient-with-ebola-like-symptoms-prompts-lock-down-at-bsa


Well, might be hanging out at my back door.

I will be issuing a Fatwa concerning this soon...stay tuned.

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When Shepard Smith is the voice of reason, you know there are some crazy motherfuckers out there. 
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Good, simple column on the fear-mongering surrounding both Ebola and ISIS:

http://reason.com/archives/2014/10/16/inflated-fears-of-ebola-and-terrorism



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I just had a half hour meeting with our team doctor and some of senior management because my first recruits are coming back from Ebola countries on Monday.  We went over all the ways it can be transmitted again and I'm more confident than ever that there's nothing to fear.  They'll take their temperature every 4 hours and even if they're infected they can only transmit if they're symptomatic.  I promised not to have sex with any of them or even to make out with them, so I have done my part.  I was asked if I would feel more comfortable if they briefed me online from home for at least a week, and I said absolutely not.  It is business as usual. 



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Portalesman wrote: srossi wrote:  I promised not to have sex with any of them or even to make out with them, so I have done my part.  I was asked if I would feel more comfortable if they briefed me online from home for at least a week, and I said absolutely not.  It is business as usual. LOL.  You couldnt get laid in a morgue.
"Briefed me online" = skyping with pants and underwear around the ankles.

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tofu_chipmunk wrote: Portalesman wrote: srossi wrote:  I promised not to have sex with any of them or even to make out with them, so I have done my part.  I was asked if I would feel more comfortable if they briefed me online from home for at least a week, and I said absolutely not.  It is business as usual. LOL.  You couldnt get laid in a morgue.
"Briefed me online" = skyping with pants and underwear around the ankles.

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srossi wrote: tofu_chipmunk wrote: Portalesman wrote: srossi wrote:  I promised not to have sex with any of them or even to make out with them, so I have done my part.  I was asked if I would feel more comfortable if they briefed me online from home for at least a week, and I said absolutely not.  It is business as usual. LOL.  You couldnt get laid in a morgue.
"Briefed me online" = skyping with pants and underwear around the ankles.

That would be debriefed. 

'Briefed' would be when they saw you naked and said "Jesus Christ, get some goddamn underwear on!"

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srossi wrote: tofu_chipmunk wrote: Portalesman wrote: srossi wrote:  I promised not to have sex with any of them or even to make out with them, so I have done my part.  I was asked if I would feel more comfortable if they briefed me online from home for at least a week, and I said absolutely not.  It is business as usual. LOL.  You couldnt get laid in a morgue.
"Briefed me online" = skyping with pants and underwear around the ankles.

That would be debriefed. 

In this case, I meant being "briefed" would be liked being "pantsed".  But I defer to your expertise and experience in naked skyping.

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So did we all die from Ebola yet?  I mean, this was "Obama's Katrina", right?  lol

It just goes to show that when you step back even 3 months, much less 3 years, or 3 decades, hysteria is usually just that.  I'm still dealing with Ebola stuff overseas at work, it's already been a legit problem there, but I haven't heard an American talk about it in ages.  And nothing happened here AT ALL!  NOT AT ALL!  So can we just get an admission of being completely and totally wrong, or are you going to claim that you were right anyway so that we can all laugh some more?  I mean a 5 page thread about this in October and then certain people backed away from their keyboards very slowly hoping no one would notice. 

Of all the things that Obama "accomplished", I think his 2nd greatest achievement was doing what government should do as a default setting - absolutely nothing about unscientific and batshit crazy Ebola hysteria (his greatest accomplishment was opening relations with Cubs again).  Doing nothing saved us money and maintained freedoms and proved to be the right move in the face of tremendous pressure from insane people, as well as those who just like being contrary to anything the "enemy" does.  If only Obama had done nothing for the other 8 years, he would've been a pretty good president.  The proper role of government - unless absolutely necessary, do absolutely nothing.

I think it's important to bump stuff like this because so often absolutely insane things are said that in retrospect are just clearly 100% wrong, but those same people never lose credibility because so much shit is said on a daily basis no one remembers what asshole said what asshole thing after 3 days.  Can we pull the clips of everyone in the media that was screaming about this and make sure they're never put on TV again?   

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It's funny you mention this. So sometime last week, I started developing Bronchitis. I had noticed a bit of a cough late in shift on Wed, came in and worked my last shift on thursday and it started ramping up. Got seen on Sat, tested neg for the flu and confirmed for Bronchitis. Against better advice, I came into work on Monday since we were critically short. Almost every pt I ran into (since when I coughed it sounded like I had a rattle in my upper chest) asked if I had Ebola (as I was wearing a facemask) People here still think that if someone has the flu that it just can't be the flu, but some Pandemic.

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Principal_Raditch wrote: It's funny you mention this. So sometime last week, I started developing Bronchitis. I had noticed a bit of a cough late in shift on Wed, came in and worked my last shift on thursday and it started ramping up. Got seen on Sat, tested neg for the flu and confirmed for Bronchitis. Against better advice, I came into work on Monday since we were critically short. Almost every pt I ran into (since when I coughed it sounded like I had a rattle in my upper chest) asked if I had Ebola (as I was wearing a facemask) People here still think that if someone has the flu that it just can't be the flu, but some Pandemic.
Travelling through Europe I was a bit worried because I developed a cold at some point in London and every airport and train station has tons of Ebola signs and containment areas.  I was afraid to cough in front of anyone there because who knows how they'd react.  But once I got back to JFK, I didn't see anything and no one even makes the stupid jokes anymore - "Oh you might have Ebola, hahaha!"  I imagine working in a hospital setting, people are a bit more wary since they have a million times more of a chance of getting it than the average American, but it's a shame that they're still a bit paranoid over silly things.



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Married Jo wrote: srossi wrote: Hysteria.  The odds of the average person getting this is virtually zero.  We have a crazy local politician here screaming about how you can get it on the subway through touching a sweaty pole.  This is early '80s AIDS silliness here. 

If anyone on this board gets it, it will be me.  I work with the U.N. and have colleagues helping out with the crisis.  They could conceivably get it and bring it back, although the re-entry regulations are very strict for the U.N., but as I'm not planning on bathing in their blood anytime soon, I'm not very concerned.  My chance of getting it is infinitesimal, yours is non-existent.  It's not airborne.

Bingo. All the worrying = 


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Now I have to wonder what it was we weren't supposed to notice amidst the hysteria.



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srossi wrote: Of all the things that Obama "accomplished", I think his 2nd greatest achievement was doing what government should do as a default setting - absolutely nothing about unscientific and batshit crazy Ebola hysteria (his greatest accomplishment was opening relations with Cubs again). 
Ah yes, who could ever forget the beer summit with Ernie Banks.



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dogfacedgremlin34 wrote: srossi wrote: Of all the things that Obama "accomplished", I think his 2nd greatest achievement was doing what government should do as a default setting - absolutely nothing about unscientific and batshit crazy Ebola hysteria (his greatest accomplishment was opening relations with Cubs again). 
Ah yes, who could ever forget the beer summit with Ernie Banks.


LOL  Well if anyone needs foreign aid, it's the Cubs.  I'm not going to edit it and will let that stand.

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What is the current number of dead from Ebola in Africa as of this week?


You don't hear shit about it now....Even the thousands of people Boko Harum have been killing got little press in North America. They kill thousands the same week as the French shootings, what 20-25 people?
Talk about racism in the media? No better example than that?

Also srossi, I know with your work you are close to the Ebola situation, do you have any idea what the weekly infection rate is now as opposed to when it was at its height?

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carpetbeggar wrote: What is the current number of dead from Ebola in Africa as of this week?


You don't hear shit about it now....Even the thousands of people Boko Harum have been killing got little press in North America. They kill thousands the same week as the French shootings, what 20-25 people?
Talk about racism in the media? No better example than that?

Also srossi, I know with your work you are close to the Ebola situation, do you have any idea what the weekly infection rate is now as opposed to when it was at its height?

Infection rates are slowing considerably.  In Sierra Leone we're hopeful that there will be zero new infections by the end of March.  Liberia is looking better too.  Have to double-check the Guinea numbers but I know they just reopened schools this Monday, so that's a good sign.  But we're closing in on 9,000 total dead in Africa since this started, so it was devastating.

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