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 Posted: Fri Feb 6th, 2015 01:42 am
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I started watching in 1966.

I used to get the Wrestling Revue every month and it used to list results from other cities.
Couldn't believe it when I saw results from St. Louis where Dick the Bruiser was teaming with guys like Blackjack Lanza, Ivan Koloff, Waldo Von Erich and other heels while up here in Chicago he and Lanza were tearing each other up in a feud and Bruiser was the #1 face.

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 Posted: Fri Feb 6th, 2015 02:46 am
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Who booked this oldtimer to win the battle royal?!


From the newsstand mags, can remember reading all the names incorrectly like Greg Gag-knee and Bob Buckland in my mind until hearing them on broadcast TV ...and.I wasn't sure if they knew the correct way to pronounce it either!

A little.off topic but someone mentioned watching the AWA Super Sunday 1983 show, so I did...and in watching the opening with Rod Trongard welcoming you in as the shot panned the building, and then going up to Gene Okerlund making the ring announcements for the opener, they gradually cut the house lights, and I got that optimistic excited fan euphoria, if only for a few moments. This thread is a fine way to remind each other of those days.

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khawk wrote: I came to the realization about how MUCH wrestling went on in other places with the first magazines I bought in and around 1979. I expected a magazine filled with AWA guys but the cover had some guys named Dusty Rhodes and Harley Race on it. I knew that there were different wrestling promotions from my exposure to International Montreal/Cannon group stuff on TV, but didn't really understand the scope of it until that day.We're about the same age, and I too bought my first magazines in 1979, right when the Samoans & Hogan joined the WWWF.  Those mags really gave the jerkoff to Mascaras and Rhodes so I couldn't wait to see them. Seeing Dusty came almost immediately when he wrestled SSBG @ MSG and then we realized that Channel 47 (spanish station) carried CWF @ 11pm every Tuesday night.



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freebirdsforever2001 wrote: I'm in the same boat as HBF. Living in South Jersey, We got Georgia, WWF, World Class, ICW, AWA, Florida, UFW
You got way more than us. 
What promotion was that "Lucha Libre" that ran on the Spanish stations in the northern part of the state?  I thought it was LA but might be mistaken.



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chrob61 wrote: Growing up in the Detroit area, we of course had the Sheik, Bobo Brazil as local heroes.  It wasn't until I saw Bobo on a WWWF (then) show that I was disillusioned, I guess you could say.   I thought those wrestlers were for my area only.  I didn't have a clue about any other national promotion.

Then in the 80's when the WWF (then) was making it's big expansion, I always liked those snippets at the end of the shows, saying something like "next week.....making his debut....." and it was some wrestler that was repackaged as one of Vince's gimmicky characters.   Like how Terry Taylor became Red Rooster......


And as a child I would have these nightmares of the Sheik throwing fire!
 

Did you know that Jim Myers/George Steele, was a Detroit-area teacher?  I always wondered how the kids didn't figure that out and even asked him about it. He was amazed about that as well.



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This is the first wrestling magazine my parents ever let me buy.  From the mom and pop pharmacy where I'd go to buy baseball cards and Wacky Packages.  Other than the AWA guys, I had no idea who the hell the rest of these characters were.  It was like opening a Pandora's Box.



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HBF- yes I knew that about the Animal George Steele- he also wrestled under a mask and was known as "The Student".

It would have been cool to be in that school where he was a teacher.

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One Fan Gang wrote:

From the newsstand mags, can remember reading all the names incorrectly like Greg Gag-knee and Bob Buckland in my mind until hearing them on broadcast TV ...and.I wasn't sure if they knew the correct way to pronounce it either!


Lol, I went through that phase also. Ted D-Bias, Ken Pat-er-ra, Dutch Mantle. Remember I'm a 5 to 7 year old at the time, before I started seeing different promotions than my own. I remember the first episode of CWG was shown not on TBS, but on the ABC affiliate in Bangor. It was the episode that had Tim Horner score the upset small package victory over one of the Road Warriors (Animal?) In the tournament for the National Title(?).TBS was a premium channel where I lived so it was scrambled and only available if you paid for the Movie Network (which my grandparents, who I lived with at the time did not). I remember watching the scrambled feed every Saturday to listen to the NWA shows so I didn't have to wait to hear what happened months later in the magazines. I still remember "watching" the first 'Clash Of The Champions' that way. My grandparents thought I was nuts lol. I also watched all the ppvs (nwa and wwf) that way. Wrestlemania though I always went with friends or family to watch closed circuit. From around '87 on, my best friend in Junior High was able to get me and my friends VHS copies of ppvs the day after every ppv as his stepdad worked for the company that set up and broadcasted feeds for the halifax closed circuit broadcasts. So he had access to everything and his stepdad would tape all the ppvs, not just WM. I remember he was able to see guys "working out" in the ring hours before the show started as they had the main satellite feed. I remember him saying that he saw JYD and Harley Race working their match out in the ring the morning of WM III. He said Race kept practicing his "bump" after JYD would head butt him. My friend said they practiced that "spot" over and over. He always regretted not getting all of that "pre-show" stuff on tape. That would have been like gold nowadays in the tape tarding circles.

Then in the very early 90's my uncle came across a bunch of the black box descramblers. I bought one off of him for like $150 I think, then I was able to get every single ppv...NWA, WCW, WWF, the lucha one in LA, boxing, early UFC's, TBS, with that came WCW and all the COC's....EVERYTHING. It was freaking great. I used to have 2 ppv parties a month back then, one for WCW and one for WWF. One of my friend's girlfriends Dad had a bunch of buddies who were huge boxing and UFC fans so I would take the box and hook it up at one of their houses and charge $3.00 per person. I used to make around $30 for every show that way. Good times. Unfortunately, adulthood finally came so I had to move away for college and work and digital cable replaced descramblers, but I definitely got my money's worth with that little black beauty lol. Those were the days.

Kinda off topic, but just thought I'd share my progression of wrestling watching from back in the day.


Oh, btw I can't forget 'Pro Wrestling Plus' hosted by THE Ed Whalen on 'The Sports Network' (TSN). Basically Canada's version of the show Joe Pedicino did in the States. I think it was the exact same show, matches, etc, just with a different host. I got to see a lot of cool footage that way, for example,  WWC(Puerto Rico). I was always a huge fan of the territory from reading about it in the magazines. Always loved Southwest too. A lot of you guys that know me know I'm a big Brody, Hansen, Abby, Farhat, Funks, Sheepherders, Jos Leduc, Colon, Lewin, Kabuki, Rhodes fan. Love that old 70's thru early 80's, blood & guts style. It was those old 70's bloody picture magazine covers that did it lol.


Sorry for the long, rambling post guys, but I just love reminiscing about that 70's/80's/early 90's era of wrestling. 

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Like others, I was reading the magazines in the '60s and it became apparent that wrestling was a lot different in other places. That included having other champions.

I remember when Bruno and Bill Cardille were guests on a local talk show and a kid called in asking why some guy named Verne Gagne was on the cover of a magazine wearing a championship belt. After they laughed at his mispronunciation of Gagne, they told him that Verne was just a regional champion in some parts of the midwest.

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TerryWWWF wrote: I remember when Bruno and Bill Cardille were guests on a local talk show and a kid called in asking why some guy named Verne Gagne was on the cover of a magazine wearing a championship belt. After they laughed at his mispronunciation of Gagne, they told him that Verne was just a regional champion in some parts of the midwest.

Great story, I would have loved to have heard that. Too bad there wasn't audio saved from some of those old radio kayfabe wrestling shows.

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Wrestling World did a story around 1967 on Bruno's appearance on a NY radio show. A caller asked what Gorilla Monsoon's real name was.

Bruno's explanation was that Monsoon was his real last name but his first name was something that was very hard to pronounce. Somebody said, "My God, what a gorilla" when they first saw him and it stuck.

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I had no idea that anything other than the WWF existed, until a guy at the church I went to, told me that Hulk Hogan was now a bad guy in WCW. Even then, I didn't get to see anything until TSN started showing Nitro in 1997.



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Cpleaseory17 wrote: I had no idea that anything other than the WWF existed, until a guy at the church I went to, told me that Hulk Hogan was now a bad guy in WCW. Even then, I didn't get to see anything until TSN started showing Nitro in 1997.

I take it you were still fairly young in the mid-90's?

You reply and tell me you were 28 years old or something in 1996 I'm never voting for you again. ;)

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As a kid we got both Pittsburgh Studio Wrestling and NWF Cleveland wrestling so I knew right away there were other promotions, my dad explained it as each big city had wrestling like they had a baseball team, we went and visited my aunt in NJ and she got WWWF wrestling, and Florida wrestling and LA wrestling (in Spanish) so from about the age of 7 or 8 I had it covered and I started buying magazines about then as well



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Wow- seeing footage of the pre-Mania III run throughs from that morning would be incredible.



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