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The Chicago-based team that knocked Philadelphia's Taney Dragons out of the Little League World Series - and went on to become the U.S. champs - is under investigation, ESPN reports.

The investigation centers on whether the team, Jackie Robinson West, used players who live outside the team's geographic area.

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LOL @ strippinng the kids of the title

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http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/jackie-robinson-west-stripped-of-u-s--little-league-title-for-cheating-143104241.html


After months of staying mum while cheating allegations circled U.S. champs Jackie Robinson West, Little League International has finally taken action and stripped the Chicago-based team of its title.

Jackie Robinson West, an all-black team that became a feel-good story of the summer and was celebrated from the White House to the World Series, had been in a vortex of allegations since its season ended. Chief among them: the team used ringers from outside its area, then it illegally manipulated district boundaries to its own advantage.

After months of Little League International saying the case was closed, it met with rival Little League presidents from Chicago's District 4 and re-examined the case. On Wednesday morning, came the news, via a statement from the Little League office.

    "After an extensive review of the operations of Jackie Robinson West Little League and Illinois District 4, the Little League International Charter/Tournament Committee has determined that the Jackie Robinson West Little League and Illinois District 4 Administrator knowingly violated Little League International Rules and Regulations by placing players on their team who did not qualify to play because they lived outside the team’s boundaries."

    "For more than 75 years, Little League has been an organization where fair play is valued over the importance of wins and losses,” said Stephen D. Keener, Little League International President and CEO. “This is a heartbreaking decision. What these players accomplished on the field and the memories and lessons they have learned during the Little League World Series tournament is something the kids can be proud of, but it is unfortunate that the actions of adults have led to this outcome.

    "As our Little League operations staff learned of the many issues and actions that occurred over the course of 2014 and prior, as painful as this is, we feel it a necessary decision to maintain the integrity of the Little League program. No team can be allowed to attempt to strengthen its team by putting players on their roster that live outside their boundaries."

In addition to Jackie Robinson West losing its U.S. title, the team will vacate all its win en route to the title. Its manager, Darold Butler, has been suspended and the district administrator, Michael Kelley, who facilitated Jackie Robinson West's skirting of the rules, has been removed from his job.

The charge to discipline Jackie Robinson West was led by Chris Janes from neighboring Evergreen Park Little League, which Jackie Robinson West beat 43-2 on its way to the Little League World Series tournament. Jackie Robinson West then made it all the way to the International finals, where it lost to South Korea. Mark Konkol, a reporter with DNA Chicago, had been on the Jackie Robinson West case like a police dog, sniffing out complaints and detractors, ultimately compelling Little League International to re-open the case.

The first inkling of a controversy surrounding Jackie Robinson West came in December, and the following months have included numerous Little League rivals speaking out. Other Little League officials in Chicago claimed that a new district administrator changed the Chicago boundaries without necessary approvals. That administrator, Kelley, was a part of Jackie Robinson West for 20 years prior.

Most recently, the reps for the Las Vegas team that lost to Jackie Robinson West in the U.S. championship game compared the team to Lance Armstrong and Barry Bonds. Ashton Cave, whose team lost 7-5 to Jackie Robinson West, told DNA Chicago:

    "Lance Armstrong went down that road and became an example of what happens when you say one thing and it’s actually the other. The truth comes out,” Cave said. “We’re not just going to use 12- and 13-year-old kids as pawns to generate income on society. That’s just unacceptable.”

 Well, the truth has come out, and Little League International also finds it unacceptable.

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The sports radio talk shows are going crazy in Chicago right now.

I'd say the opinion is 50/50 right now.
This story has a long way to go.

The other big story today involves a mobster, a priest and a very expensive Stradivarius once owned by Liberace.

Never a dull minute here.

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Nationally it is being portrayed that the team KNEW they were doing this and it wasn't an accident.

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I thought one of the kids looked kinda familiar.

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ESPN has a story on their website saying they intentionally changed district boundaries to make this an all-start team.

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Now Jesse's coming here Saturday for a "recelebration" of the title.

Switching back and forth between WSCR and ESPN sports radio stations here and the callers are still 50/50 IMO.

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They should have known when the kids had to take a train and a bus to practice

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Hey Rich

What exactly are the 'locals' 50/50 on. Apparently they knowingly cheated.

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You have to remember this is Chicago.

The 50/50 is exactly that. Half the callers are calling them cheats and that they should be stripped of the title. The other half is saying it's the adults faults and the kids won the title on the field.

It's getting very political here now and people are calling in the race card.

This from the city that fixed the World Series and even had to have a judge rule a few years ago that Rahm Emanuel did reside in the city when he was in Washington for some years.

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Mostly black team. Don't see that all that often. That was probably a tip-off.

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For the record the team is 100% black.

The mayor of the city and the governor of the state had tons of photo ops with them. They also went to the White House to meet President Obama. The Cubs and the White Sox gave them days at their ballparks.
This was not your typical Little League story here in Chicago. It was front page for days. There were viewing parties in various parts of the city.

Thousands of tee shirts went on sale and sold out during the Series.

I have no idea where this story is going to wind up.

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Give the title to Mo'ne Davis and be done with it.

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I find it interesting to read about such people who try to defend cheating. On the global team sports scale (aka the other football) you have the Argentineans who are just like that. And I never know if I should only be disgusted by that behaviour or if I should respect their audacity to a degree.

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Then there's the little league teams that have players too old, etc

Everybody is cheating. Everybody.

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beejmi wrote: Then there's the little league teams that have players too old, etc

Everybody is cheating. Everybody.

If you ain't cheating, you ain't trying.

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Chitown Rich wrote:
It's getting very political here now and people are calling in the race card.


#blackwinsmatter

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If only Jerry Sandusky coached these kids, we could've just negated everyone's wins in one fell swoop.  It also would've taught the kids a valuable lesson in what happens to liars.  Sometimes your pants wind up around your ankles before they catch on fire.

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srossi wrote: beejmi wrote: Then there's the little league teams that have players too old, etc

Everybody is cheating. Everybody.

If you ain't cheating, you ain't trying.

In the olden days it used to be called "gamesmanship"

edit... just saw that srossi used that term in the hockey and baketball "cheating" thread




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Chitown Rich wrote: For the record the team is 100% black.

The mayor of the city and the governor of the state had tons of photo ops with them. They also went to the White House to meet President Obama. The Cubs and the White Sox gave them days at their ballparks.
This was not your typical Little League story here in Chicago. It was front page for days. There were viewing parties in various parts of the city.

Thousands of tee shirts went on sale and sold out during the Series.

I have no idea where this story is going to wind up.


 

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Little League Baseball vacated all of Chicago-area Jackie Robinson West’s wins from the 2014 Little League World Series tournament on Wednesday.

After investigating allegations that several players on JRW do not reside within the team’s district borders, LLB stripped the team of both it’s Great Lakes Regional and U.S. national

Despite the open and shut nature of the case, several of the team’s supporters — including Jesse Jackson and Michael Pfleger — stated at a Wednesday press conference that JRW’s punishment had nothing to do with any possible recruiting infractions and was born purely through…

RACISM!

According to Rev. Jackson, “this decision is untimely and inappropriate at this time. It should not take six months after a team has played a championship game to determine eligibility to play the game in the first place… Is this about boundaries or race?”

Rev. Pfleger’s comments expressed the same core message: “When you’re going over to voter registration and going to birth certificates and doing all this time of hunting and a witch hunt that’s been going on for the last number of months, I can’t help but wonder the question if the same thing would have been done with another team from another place, another race.”

While the team’s supporters made ample references to skin color, neither the Reverends nor the players’ parents mentioned Darold Butler, the team’s manager, or Michael Kelly, the league’s district administrator; both have been identified as the scandal’s masterminds and have been indefinitely suspended from all Little League activity.

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**sigh**

Cunts, the Lot of 'em.

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beejmi wrote: Then there's the little league teams that have players too old, etc

Everybody is cheating. Everybody.

Except the N.E. Patriots. :tongue:

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carpetbeggar wrote: beejmi wrote: Then there's the little league teams that have players too old, etc

Everybody is cheating. Everybody.

Except the N.E. Patriots. :tongue:

These little digs at the Patriots are starting to make me think you are jealous of them, since the team you support hasn't won in 45 or so years:)

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Pittsburgh Pirates center fielder Andrew McCutchen was among those who took notice when Jackie Robinson West, a Little League team based in Illinois, was stripped this week of its 2014 United States championship for recruiting violations.

After the league handed down its controversial decision, McCutchen opined on The Players' Tribune that the incident helped illustrate how income inequality in the United States increasingly prevents kids from low-income families from reaching their baseball dreams.

Raised in a household of modest means, McCutchen refused to vilify Jackie Robinson West for recruiting players from "outside the geographical area", and instead empathized with how difficult it is for certain children to receive the exposure necessary to succeed in professional baseball.

Baseball used to be the sport where all you needed was a stick and a ball. It used to be a way out for poor kids. Now it’s a sport that increasingly freezes out kids whose parents don’t have the income to finance the travel baseball circuit.

... nobody outside of (my hometown) knew who I was, even when I was 12 years old, the same age as those kids playing in the Little League World Series. When you’re a kid from a low-income family who has talent, how do you get recognized? Now, you have to pay thousands of dollars for the chance to be noticed in showcase tournaments in big cities.

For all the backlash around the Jackie Robinson West team “cheating,” most people are ignoring the truth of how these 12-year-old kids make it out of their towns and onto a national stage.

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lobo316 wrote:
According to Rev. Jackson, “this decision is untimely and inappropriate at this time. It should not take six months after a team has played a championship game to determine eligibility to play the game in the first place… Is this about boundaries or race?”


He's right, but for the wrong reason.  Surely someone should have been checking eligibility before they even played a match.  Over here, for the development teams, every player has to be properly registered with birth certificates &c to confirm they are toe correct age.

As it is, the team they beat in the first round has as legitimate a gripe as the team that lost the final.  Who's to say that the first-round losers weren't the best pukka side in the tournament?

Plus had they entered a bona fide side with players from the same neighbourhood they may have won.

While the team’s supporters made ample references to skin color, neither the Reverends nor the players’ parents mentioned Darold Butler, the team’s manager, or Michael Kelly, the league’s district administrator; both have been identified as the scandal’s masterminds and have been indefinitely suspended from all Little League activity.

This makes no sense.  Is there a "did so" missing before the semicolon?

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stone2k wrote: carpetbeggar wrote: beejmi wrote: Then there's the little league teams that have players too old, etc

Everybody is cheating. Everybody.

Except the N.E. Patriots. :tongue:

These little digs at the Patriots are starting to make me think you are jealous of them, since the team you support hasn't won in 45 or so years:)

If there was a way I could tie this to Belichick you know I would



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