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 Posted: Fri Apr 21st, 2017 05:29 pm
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WongLee wrote: I just had one question. Why was the debris field so large? Crashing straight into the ground does not eject an engine weighing over a ton 2000 yards away. Thousands of smaller pieces were found up to three miles away. That is not consistent with a nose first crash even at a high speed of impact.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a5688/debunking-911-myths-flight-93/



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The one thing that undermines any conspiracy theory is people talk, often multiple people. It can be bragging, drunken rambling, guilt or just the inability to keep a secret. Things get out. Conspiracy theories are fun, but most are just things to kick around fill time with. Few real conspiracies have ever actually existed.

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Dude, I'm too lazy to look it up at the moment, but that Popular Mechanics debunking has been throughly debunked.



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tamalie wrote: The one thing that undermines any conspiracy theory is people talk, often multiple people. It can be bragging, drunken rambling, guilt or just the inability to keep a secret. Things get out. Conspiracy theories are fun, but most are just things to kick around fill time with. Few real conspiracies have ever actually existed.I think that people mistakenly believe that to pull off something like 9/11 you need and evil team of thousands of sinners to make it work. With a few high ranking politicians and military men pulling the strings, every can fall into place nicely. For example, NOT giving the order for fighters to NYC and DC to intercept the airliners even an hour after the planes showed to be off course and flying erratically. Small teams of demolition experts to place the charges in the towers. A couple of guys to wire up the planes for remote control. Probably all career military intelligence who know what will happen if they squeal.

Few real conspiracies have ever actually existed? Not by a long shot.

The Mafia
MK Ultra
Operation Mockingbird
Operation Northwoods
The 15 year old Arab girl who said that Iraqi soldiers pulled babies out of incubators
Iran/Contra
Gulf of Tonkin
CIA dealing drugs
Operation Paperclip

The list goes on.



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WongLee wrote: Dude, I'm too lazy to look it up at the moment, but that Popular Mechanics debunking has been throughly debunked.

The Popular Mechanics article was pure BS and shredded by demolition experts after it was released.  They had a debate with the people in the article and they were getting dogged, but the host of the news program kept interrupting and "trying" to shoot holes through the opposing experts opinions but it made the PM side look even worse. 


Sorry, I just noticed that the PM article was about Flight 93.  There was also a big story on the collapse of the towers in PM and that is what I was referring to.


Populsr Mechanics must have received some nice $$$$ padding to try and dispel the 09/11 questions and theories. 

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tamalie wrote: The one thing that undermines any conspiracy theory is people talk, often multiple people. It can be bragging, drunken rambling, guilt or just the inability to keep a secret. Things get out. Conspiracy theories are fun, but most are just things to kick around fill time with. Few real conspiracies have ever actually existed.

Imagine if somebody began screaming into media microphone every step in the 09/11 conspiracy.  The government agencies would have that person for lunch.  They would make them look like a whack job, because it is probably fair to say that these people are unknown to the public and their backgrounds would probably be covert or modified.  
Trust me, there are things out there that would amaze us all. 

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WongLee wrote: tamalie wrote: The one thing that undermines any conspiracy theory is people talk, often multiple people. It can be bragging, drunken rambling, guilt or just the inability to keep a secret. Things get out. Conspiracy theories are fun, but most are just things to kick around fill time with. Few real conspiracies have ever actually existed.I think that people mistakenly believe that to pull off something like 9/11 you need and evil team of thousands of sinners to make it work. With a few high ranking politicians and military men pulling the strings, every can fall into place nicely. For example, NOT giving the order for fighters to NYC and DC to intercept the airliners even an hour after the planes showed to be off course and flying erratically. Small teams of demolition experts to place the charges in the towers. A couple of guys to wire up the planes for remote control. Probably all career military intelligence who know what will happen if they squeal.

Few real conspiracies have ever actually existed? Not by a long shot.

The Mafia
MK Ultra
Operation Mockingbird
Operation Northwoods
The 15 year old Arab girl who said that Iraqi soldiers pulled babies out of incubators
Iran/Contra
Gulf of Tonkin
CIA dealing drugs
Operation Paperclip

The list goes on.

I'll temper my comment and say that while few conspiracies exist, keeping the ones that do truly a secret is as difficult as I described it. The Mafia wasn't a secret to anyone. Many of the items on the list were barely secrets and were known to some extent even while contemporary. I think conspiracy theories are fun and while occasionally real serve a greater purpose of enabling people to grasp and attempt to make sense of or peace with things that have no explanation, can't be explained or can be explained so simply that people can't or won't accept that that's all there is to it.

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I'll throw one in here that I don't believe rather than do believe, but which will remain with us in some form for ages to come. All U.S. military Vietnam War POWs were returned in accordance with the Paris peace agreement. There were not any held back or kept in Vietnam, Laos or Cambodia at any time under any circumstances nor spirited off to someplace else. The MIAs are all people who were either verifiably killed in action with the bodies not recovered or whom the overwhelming body of evidence suggests were killed in action with the bodies not recovered. The number of the truly missing has been misunderstood, misrepresented, and exploited by numerous persons and groups over the past 44 years. The number of persons who are truly missing, as in they went on a mission and never returned, is extremely low and even then the issue is not knowing a general idea of where to look for the body. The government has been painted into a corner by itself and others on the issue and thus can't get real and say to people that anyone who was alive is home and everyone else is dead.

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tamalie wrote: WongLee wrote: tamalie wrote: The one thing that undermines any conspiracy theory is people talk, often multiple people. It can be bragging, drunken rambling, guilt or just the inability to keep a secret. Things get out. Conspiracy theories are fun, but most are just things to kick around fill time with. Few real conspiracies have ever actually existed.I think that people mistakenly believe that to pull off something like 9/11 you need and evil team of thousands of sinners to make it work. With a few high ranking politicians and military men pulling the strings, every can fall into place nicely. For example, NOT giving the order for fighters to NYC and DC to intercept the airliners even an hour after the planes showed to be off course and flying erratically. Small teams of demolition experts to place the charges in the towers. A couple of guys to wire up the planes for remote control. Probably all career military intelligence who know what will happen if they squeal.

Few real conspiracies have ever actually existed? Not by a long shot.

The Mafia
MK Ultra
Operation Mockingbird
Operation Northwoods
The 15 year old Arab girl who said that Iraqi soldiers pulled babies out of incubators
Iran/Contra
Gulf of Tonkin
CIA dealing drugs
Operation Paperclip

The list goes on.

I'll temper my comment and say that while few conspiracies exist, keeping the ones that do truly a secret is as difficult as I described it. The Mafia wasn't a secret to anyone. Many of the items on the list were barely secrets and were known to some extent even while contemporary. I think conspiracy theories are fun and while occasionally real serve a greater purpose of enabling people to grasp and attempt to make sense of or peace with things that have no explanation, can't be explained or can be explained so simply that people can't or won't accept that that's all there is to it.
 
While it's true the Mafia wasn't a secret. The U.S. Government and the F.B.I.'s official stand on it was it didn't exist. That's what makes a conspiracy. The government either denying something exists (Mafia, WMD, Iran Contra) or deflecting the public from the truth with half fabrications.

The Vietnam POW thing you brought up is interesting. We have elite level politicians like McCain and Kerry swearing up and down that we left guys over there. If we did, someone had to benefit from it. Who would benefit? I couldn't say.

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Ann Coulter is really a Tranny.

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Principal_Raditch wrote: Ann Coulter is really a Tranny.You would think that me of all people would know that.



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