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 Posted: Wed Feb 17th, 2016 07:52 pm
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1996- Brian Pillman made his ECW debut, appearing in the ring to cut an obscenity laced promo against Eric Bischoff and WCW, claiming he had been fired by the company. Pillman would end up being carted off by security after threatening to urinate in the ring. As he was carted off, Pillman attacked a "fan" (really worker Chris Krueger) and stabbed him with a fork. This was part of Pillman's famous work/shoot with WCW, trying to convince fans he really was fired from WCW and was a "loose cannon". Pillman would later get WCW to actually give him his release (to make the angle "more believable" as they were trying to work everyone with it) and jump to the WWF.  The ECW promo was one of the best interviews of Pillman's career.



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Great segment that was pretty much ruined by Shane Douglas screaming "He's shooting! He's shooting!". I never understood why that guy had his supporters. He did nothing for me.



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KGB wrote: Great segment that was pretty much ruined by Shane Douglas screaming "He's shooting! He's shooting!". I never understood why that guy had his supporters. He did nothing for me.
It doesn't hold up because it was so overdone by the late '90s, especially when WCW started running "shoot" angles that were totally worked (Tony Schiavone literally saying "That wasn't supposed to happen" on more than one occasion really killed it), but in 1996 this was cutting edge stuff and people loved Shane Douglas for it.  He became a parody of course, but you can't judge these things by today's standards. 



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Sad that he was dead in the next calendar year...did Pillman have a drug problem before he had the accident? Or did he just take so many pills afterward due to the intense pain he was in? I remember watching him wrestle in WWF and his boot would be unlaced and it was obvious it was painful to just walk nevermind perform. The whole high flying thing was long gone, and he was a slow plodder. I think WWF should have known that his future was as a talker and kept him out of the ring until he was fully healed, and if he didn't heal, keep him out permanently. Give him a Pipers Pit segment. Who knows if he would have still been here.



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Superstar wrote: Sad that he was dead in the next calendar year...did Pillman have a drug problem before he had the accident? Or did he just take so many pills afterward due to the intense pain he was in? I remember watching him wrestle in WWF and his boot would be unlaced and it was obvious it was painful to just walk nevermind perform. The whole high flying thing was long gone, and he was a slow plodder. I think WWF should have known that his future was as a talker and kept him out of the ring until he was fully healed, and if he didn't heal, keep him out permanently. Give him a Pipers Pit segment. Who knows if he would have still been here.
He always had a drug problem but I have no doubt the accident accelerated his death quite a bit.  The current WWE wouldn't have let him continue working with a fused ankle and on the number of pain meds he was on just to get through a match.



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Nah, srossi, the whole "he's shooting" thing was already cringe-inducing by the time Douglas used it here. Nothing says "this is a work" any more clearly than having someone say on-camera that it's a shoot. Pillman had just finished ripping the fans for being smart marks yet a minute later Heyman sends Douglas out to reinforce their mark-dom. Pillman did great here but ultimately the segment was corny.



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Did Pillman ever wrestle Douglas?



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Here are some matchups that I found

WCW TV-Taping @ Atlanta
5. Oktober 1992 @ Center Stage Theater in Atlanta, Georgia (United States of America)
Shane Douglas defeated Brian Pillman
2 WCW TV-Taping @ Dothan
14. Oktober 1992 @ Dothan Civic Center in Dothan, Alabama (United States of America)
Ricky Steamboat and Shane Douglas defeated Steve Austin and Brian Pillman
3 WCW @ Kansas City
16. Oktober 1992 @ Memorial Hall in Kansas City, Kansas (United States of America)
Shane Douglas defeated Brian Pillman
4 WCW @ St. Paul
17. Oktober 1992 @ Roy Wilkins Auditorium in St. Paul, Minnesota (United States of America)
Steve Austin and Brian Pillman defeated Shane Douglas and Brad Armstrong
5 WCW TV-Taping @ Atlanta
19. Oktober 1992 @ Center Stage Theater in Atlanta, Georgia (United States of America)
Brian Pillman vs. Shane Douglas ended without a winner
6 WCW @ Cincinnati
22. Oktober 1992 @ Cincinnati Gardens in Cincinnati, Ohio (United States of America)
Brian Pillman and Steve Austin defeated Shane Douglas and Brad Armstrong
7 WCW @ Cleveland
23. Oktober 1992 @ CSU Convocation Center in Cleveland, Ohio (United States of America)
Brian Pillman and Steve Austin defeated Shane Douglas and Brad Armstrong
8 WCW @ Fort Bragg
5. November 1992 @ Ritz-Epps Fitness Center in Fort Bragg, North Carolina (United States of America)
Shane Douglas and Ricky Steamboat defeated Steve Austin and Brian Pillman
9 WCW @ Roanoke
6. November 1992 @ Civic Center in Roanoke, Virginia (United States of America)
Shane Douglas defeated Brian Pillman
10 WCW @ Charleston
7. November 1992 @ Civic Center in Charleston, West Virginia (United States of America)
Shane Douglas and Ricky Steamboat defeated Steve Austin and Brian Pillman
11 WCW @ Jacksonville
13. November 1992 @ Jacksonville Veterans Memorial Coliseum in Jacksonville, Florida (United States of America)
Ricky Steamboat and Shane Douglas defeated Steve Austin and Brian Pillman
12 WCW @ St. Petersburg
14. November 1992 @ Bayfront Arena in St. Petersburg, Florida (United States of America)
Shane Douglas defeated Brian Pillman
13 WCW @ Topeka
20. November 1992 @ Landon Arena at Kansas Expo Center in Topeka, Kansas (United States of America)
Ricky Steamboat and Shane Douglas (c) defeated Steve Austin and Brian Pillman [WCW World Tag Team Titles Match]
14 WCW Starrcade 1992: BattleBowl/The Lethal Lottery
28. Dezember 1992 @ The Omni in Atlanta, Georgia (United States of America)
Ricky Steamboat and Shane Douglas (c) defeated Barry Windham and Brian Pillman [NWA World Tag Team Titles Match & WCW World Tag Team Titles Match]
15 WCW @ Baltimore
30. Dezember 1992 @ Baltimore Arena in Baltimore, Maryland (United States of America)
Ricky Steamboat and Shane Douglas defeated Bobby Eaton and Brian Pillman [WCW World Tag Team Titles Match]
16 WCW @ Little Rock
8. Januar 1993 @ Barton Coliseum in Little Rock, Arkansas (United States of America)
Ricky Steamboat and Shane Douglas (c) defeated Steve Austin and Brian Pillman [WCW World Tag Team Titles Match]

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Amazing, but I had never seen that until now. Thanks for posting.

Weird segment. The acting by Styles and especially Tod Gordon is just so terrible that it certainly doesn't feel like a "shoot". I agree with Rossi though that we've seen so many of these now (or at least a plethora of them in the late 90s) that we're basically desensitized to the entire concept.

I don't "get" why security was taking him away and then disappeared for a moment to allow him to get into a fight with a fan and actually pushing him into the ring to work a quick spot. That's where it falls apart big time for me.



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I just finished this week's Bruce Prichard podcast, it's almost 3 hours long and it's all about Pillman from the when he started his loose canon stuff through the end.

I just started listening to Prichard's podcast last week, it's pretty good..he obviously won't fess up to too much bad stuff he was involved in back in his WWF/E days but he owns up to some of it..



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