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 Posted: Wed Apr 27th, 2016 07:40 pm
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Detroit Tigers manager Mayo Smith starting regular outfielder Mickey Stanley at shortstop in the 1968 World Series against the Cardinals.

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The Vikings deal for Herschel Walker in 1989 was meant to put the Vikes over the top and win the Super Bowl that season. They gave up too much, but it would have been worth it to get the Lombardi Trophy. Unfortunately, the Vikes lacked a Super Bowl quality quarterback and head coach Jerry Burns felt that Walker had been foisted upon him by management and refused to alter his game plan in any fashion to better utilize the guy. It led to another disappointing one and out playoff run that season and disastrous 1990 and 1991 seasons. Once Dennis Green took over in 1992, Walker was out along with many other Burnsie era players and the team was retooled. They wound up having some very good seasons in the 1990s. You have to wonder how much better those teams would have been, regardless of who the coach was as we rewrite history, had all of those draft picks been available to the Vikes.

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tamalie wrote: The Vikings deal for Herschel Walker in 1989 was meant to put the Vikes over the top and win the Super Bowl that season. They gave up too much, but it would have been worth it to get the Lombardi Trophy. Unfortunately, the Vikes lacked a Super Bowl quality quarterback and head coach Jerry Burns felt that Walker had been foisted upon him by management and refused to alter his game plan in any fashion to better utilize the guy. It led to another disappointing one and out playoff run that season and disastrous 1990 and 1991 seasons. Once Dennis Green took over in 1992, Walker was out along with many other Burnsie era players and the team was retooled. They wound up having some very good seasons in the 1990s. You have to wonder how much better those teams would have been, regardless of who the coach was as we rewrite history, had all of those draft picks been available to the Vikes.Didn't Minnesota go 15-1 one year and choke in the first playoff game in the 90's?

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mike3775 wrote: tamalie wrote: The Vikings deal for Herschel Walker in 1989 was meant to put the Vikes over the top and win the Super Bowl that season. They gave up too much, but it would have been worth it to get the Lombardi Trophy. Unfortunately, the Vikes lacked a Super Bowl quality quarterback and head coach Jerry Burns felt that Walker had been foisted upon him by management and refused to alter his game plan in any fashion to better utilize the guy. It led to another disappointing one and out playoff run that season and disastrous 1990 and 1991 seasons. Once Dennis Green took over in 1992, Walker was out along with many other Burnsie era players and the team was retooled. They wound up having some very good seasons in the 1990s. You have to wonder how much better those teams would have been, regardless of who the coach was as we rewrite history, had all of those draft picks been available to the Vikes.Didn't Minnesota go 15-1 one year and choke in the first playoff game in the 90's?
Those Viking teams had almost as good of a D as the original 1970's Purple People Eaters: John Randle, Chris Doleman (both in the HOF), Keith Millard, Joey Browner.  That's some top-end talent right there!



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mike3775 wrote: tamalie wrote: The Vikings deal for Herschel Walker in 1989 was meant to put the Vikes over the top and win the Super Bowl that season. They gave up too much, but it would have been worth it to get the Lombardi Trophy. Unfortunately, the Vikes lacked a Super Bowl quality quarterback and head coach Jerry Burns felt that Walker had been foisted upon him by management and refused to alter his game plan in any fashion to better utilize the guy. It led to another disappointing one and out playoff run that season and disastrous 1990 and 1991 seasons. Once Dennis Green took over in 1992, Walker was out along with many other Burnsie era players and the team was retooled. They wound up having some very good seasons in the 1990s. You have to wonder how much better those teams would have been, regardless of who the coach was as we rewrite history, had all of those draft picks been available to the Vikes.Didn't Minnesota go 15-1 one year and choke in the first playoff game in the 90's?

The Vikes went 15-1, losing only to the Bucs in week 9 by a score of 27-24 after the latter team came back from 10 points down in the 4th. That's how close they came to 16-0. They beat the Cardinals in the divisional playoffs after a bye, but lost in overtime to the Falcons at home in the NFC Championship Game after dropping a 10 point lead in the 4th quarter, taking a knee with the ball in bad field position and seconds left on the clock in order to go to overtime, and then having kicker Gary Anderson have his only missed field goal of the season in OT.
It hurt just to type that and that loss permanently scarred this fan base. Vikings fans are as tortured now as Boston Red Sox fans used to be after all of their near misses and New York Rangers used to be with the specter of 1940. Most fans aren't even old enough to remember the four Super Bowl losses in 1969, 1973, 1974, and 1976 and the older fans from that era have died off. However, the 1998 choke and the 2000 NFC Championship disaster against the Giants, forever known to Vikings fans as 41-donut, has created a cynicism and bitterness that only a Super Bowl win could ever vanquish.

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Yeah Tamalie that was a great year. Notice I didn't say 'great team'. They couldn't recapture that same magic the next year. Them and 2007 Pats, two teams history has forgotten and they deserved better.

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Principal_Raditch wrote: Pat Gillick Trades Fred McGriff and Tony Fernandez to the Padres for Joe Carter and Roberto Alomar. Gillick was banking on John Olerud being able to take over for McGriff at 1st base, and that even Trading an All Star in Fernandez, he'd be picking up one in Alomar.

Obviously worked out well. Carter and Alomar were cornerstone's in the back to back WS teams of 92-93.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/06/sports/baseball/06trade.html?_r=0

Blue Jays also had a Tony Fernandez clone in Manny Lee but how the Padres traded away a young all star in Alomar will always puzzle people.

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