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 Posted: Thu Nov 10th, 2016 10:51 pm
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1. Hillary's "plan" was to stay the course in a time where a lot of people wanted change.

2. The DNC and liberal media fucked over Bernie and his supporters, including a lot of 1st time voters, so bad that they were disillusioned sat it out.

3. She didn't get the minority vote as well as she thought she could. Obama's voters didn't stick around for her.

4. She let Trump get personal with her. Whether she had issues to debate and actual plans or not, she played right into his hands.

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One of the big reasons is that her ads sucked, at least here in Ohio. All her ads were either about her being female, or Trump being a bully. Nothing about her plans, what she wanted to do, not even attacking Donald's plans. Just "I'm a woman and I'm not a bully". Trump, for all his bluster and BS, at least said things. Hillary I thin expected people to vote for her just because she has a vajayjay.



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 Posted: Thu Nov 10th, 2016 11:33 pm
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I don't know of this is true or not and the source is a Republican so it could very well be bullshit, but someone said that he "heard from a close female friend" of Hillary's that she called her incoherently weeping at 6:00 AM and blamed Obama for not supporting her enough.



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Ed Klein: Hillary Couldn't Stop Crying, Told Friend She Blames Comey and Obama For Loss

By Todd Beamon | Wednesday, 09 Nov 2016 06:08 PM

Hillary Clinton "couldn't stop crying" once she learned of her loss to Donald Trump on Tuesday, best-selling conservative author Ed Klein told Newsmax TV on Wednesday.

"About 6:30 this morning she called an old friend," he began on "The Steve Malzberg Show" in an interview. "She was crying, inconsolably.

"She couldn't stop crying.

"Her friend said — her female friend from way, way, back — said that it was even hard to understand what she was saying, she was crying so hard.

"This is Hillary we're talking about," Klein said.

"Eventually," he continued, "her friend said she could make out that she was blaming James Comey, the director of the FBI, for her loss — and this I don't understand exactly — and the president of the United States for not doing enough."

Klein said his source then asked further about President Barack Obama.

"She said: 'Well, she felt, Hillary felt, that the president could have stopped Comey a long time ago, because that's what [former President] Bill [Clinton] said."



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Who is Todd Beamon and what publication does he write for?

I don't blame Hillary Clinton for being upset over losing the election. She wanted to win. She expected to win. There was little in the media and polls to suggest she'd lose. This wasn't like McCain in 2008 or Romney in 2012 when they were dead men walking and had no reason to expect a win on election night, especially McCain. This was the biggest and most humiliating defeat a person could endure. Being upset and angry over losing humanizes her in a way that never happened during the campaign itself. Lashing out at the likes of Comey and Obama, if the story is legit, is something I'll let go as being in the heat of the moment and as something not meant for public consumption even if keeping it under wraps was impossible. If she stays on that line of thought in the future, it's another matter, however. There has to eventually be some self reflection about the things she did wrong or were inherently unappealing about her and her policies to voters. Like many people, my vote for Hillary was less about supporting her than it was about standing against Trump. I don't see her as self aware enough to get that.

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Worst voter turnout since 2000

She felt entitled to the job and the Republicans were forced to support a candidate they didn't fully understand

Comey didn't help and no one wanted to vote for either candidate, including prob half the people "protesting" in the streets last night



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There is now a Change.org petition circulating begging the electoral college to go against the will of the people and cast their votes for Hillary. I am not kidding when I say that everyone who signs the petition possibly be should be arrested and executed for treason. There is no greater danger to our democracy, not even a Trump presidency, than this. 



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A lot of people who viewed Trump as emotionally immature react to his winning by being emotionally immature 

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Still cracks me up when people don't understand how this whole "Electoral college" thing works

She lost for a variety of reasons, he won for very few, mostly that he was NOT HER

There will be a female President but it will never be her, way too much baggage



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I knew she was doomed a couple weeks ago when I went into Buffalo and while there were no (as in ZERO) Trump signs there were also ZERO Hillary signs. Anywhere. In a city that is 40% black and 75% Ethnic and came out in droves for Obama.

People have had over 20 years to Hate Hillary. She was Reviled in the southern states as far back as 1994.

Her policies..... what were they again? Trumps ranged from doable and somewhat thought out to downright scary, but he had policies that were at least clear. sorta. Hillary had bad pantsuits and a forced smile.

I would never have voted for Trump but I don't think I could have held my nose hard enough at the ballot box while voting for Hillary.



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broke wrote: I knew she was doomed a couple weeks ago when I went into Buffalo and while there were no (as in ZERO) Trump signs there were also ZERO Hillary signs. Anywhere. In a city that is 40% black and 75% Ethnic and came out in droves for Obama.

The suburbs and outlying towns had a lot of Trump signs, but you're right. I do a lot of thrifting/antique travel locally and I think I saw 1 Hillary sign. Insaw more for Gary Johnson.

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LAF wrote: broke wrote: I knew she was doomed a couple weeks ago when I went into Buffalo and while there were no (as in ZERO) Trump signs there were also ZERO Hillary signs. Anywhere. In a city that is 40% black and 75% Ethnic and came out in droves for Obama.

The suburbs and outlying towns had a lot of Trump signs, but you're right. I do a lot of thrifting/antique travel locally and I think I saw 1 Hillary sign. Insaw more for Gary Johnson.

In 2008 and 2012 there were Obama signs everywhere.  This was eerie - not one sign for the Democrat, and I was in Elmwood Village.  



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Look for electors to be doxxed.

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"Let me be very clear. In my view, Democrats will not retain the White House, will not regain the Senate, will not gain the House and will not be successful in dozens of governor’s races unless we run a campaign which generates excitement and momentum and which produces a huge voter turnout.
With all due respect, and I do not mean to insult anyone here, that will not happen with politics as usual. The same old, same old will not be successful.
The people of our country understand that — given the collapse of the American middle class and the grotesque level of income and wealth inequality we are experiencing — we do not need more establishment politics or establishment economics.
We need a political movement which is prepared to take on the billionaire class and create a government which represents all Americans, and not just corporate America and wealthy campaign donors.
In other words, we need a movement which takes on the economic and political establishment, not one which is part of it."
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martini wrote: Ed Klein: Hillary Couldn't Stop Crying, Told Friend She Blames Comey and Obama For Loss

By Todd Beamon | Wednesday, 09 Nov 2016 06:08 PM

Hillary Clinton "couldn't stop crying" once she learned of her loss to Donald Trump on Tuesday, best-selling rconservative author Ed Klein told Newsmax TV on Wednesday.

"About 6:30 this morning she called an old friend," he began on "The Steve Malzberg Show" in an interview. "She was crying, inconsolably.

"She couldn't stop crying.

"Her friend said — her female friend from way, way, back — said that it was even hard to understand what she was saying, she was crying so hard.

"This is Hillary we're talking about," Klein said.

"Eventually," he continued, "her friend said she could make out that she was blaming James Comey, the director of the FBI, for her loss — and this I don't understand exactly — and the president of the United States for not doing enough."

Klein said his source then asked further about President Barack Obama.

"She said: 'Well, she felt, Hillary felt, that the president could have stopped Comey a long time ago, because that's what [former President] Bill [Clinton] said."
Hours after losing the election and she couldn't stop crying?  Apart from the fact that this is in line with reports of her alcohol abuse, is this the temperment of a would-be world leader?  Christ, no wonder we've never elected a broad as President.



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