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Patriots a 3 point favorite.

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For me it is this simple. The teams that have beaten New England in the playoffs (Ravens, Giants, Broncos) all had/have great defenses. Not the case here.

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I don't see the Patriots losing or this even being close. That line will change as all the money goes to NE.

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I don't think the Falcons have a chance

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I think Falcons win in a shootout.
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This is going to be a shit show. Patriots win by 3 touchdowns..

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The Packers didn't make the Super Bowl and their fans are currently in a state of rage and panic about the collapse of the team yesterday and the uncertain the team faces unless the defensive problems are solved.

Regarding the Super Bowl, I think the Patriots are a worthy 3 point favorite. They've been there as an organization enough times and this group of players has been there recently enough that none of them will get caught up in the hype that surrounds the game and has undone so many contenders. Atlanta definitely can win, but New England is the likely winner.

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No matter what receivers Brady has, he turns them all into stars. Is it him or Coach hoody? A combination of both? Just incredible.

I hate them. Not as much as the Cowboys but close.

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Falcons lose late on a controversial call.

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Ultimark wrote: No matter what receivers Brady has, he turns them all into stars. Is it him or Coach hoody? A combination of both? Just incredible.

I hate them. Not as much as the Cowboys but close.

IMO it's like 70% Hoodie, 30% Brady. Every time Brady is out or hurt they literally just stick a body in a jersey out there and win..

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srossi wrote: I don't see the Patriots losing or this even being close. That line will change as all the money goes to NE.
People may still bet the Pats at -3 but at +3.5 or +4 there is perceived 'value' on Atlanta. You would be getting one of the top 5 offenses of the past 40 years with more than a field goal.

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srossi wrote: I don't see the Patriots losing or this even being close. That line will change as all the money goes to NE.Like I said in another thread ,win or lose ,the Brady lead Patriots are always involved in a close game in the Superbowls. The biggest point differential was only 4 points. Atlanta's defense is young and they are prone to making mistakes but they are super fast . Brady is a stationary QB so game might depend on whose line will hold up.

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Amazing stat
 
The Brady/Belichick 'Patriots' have been to 6 Super Bowls. They have never scored in the first quarter in any of those 6 games.

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16-10 Pats

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This has been the least hyped Superbowl in recent memory no buzz or no juice at all and this is all Aaron Rodgers fault for eliminating the Giants and Cowboys.

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I live in Houston and it just doesn't feel like the Super Bowl is happening here. The only reminder is driving through downtown and seeing the DirectTV blimp overhead all week along with a few hovering helicopter and planes pulling banners.

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Kickoff is upon us

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Fuckin' Patriots....

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So much for taking the over.

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Falcons up 14-0, and have outplayed New England

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This is becoming a rout.

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Couldn't be happening to a nicer 2 guys than Brady and Belichick. I hope the final is 56-3.

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Be ready for 40+ pass attempts in the second half by Brady.

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The falcons are going to come out flat after the marathon half time and give this game away.

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When you miss the PAT, it's probably time to go home.

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Just need one more TD and 2 pointer. Atlanta imploding.

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Whichever ref blew it on that obvious facemask should be fired

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I hate the Patriots but this game is amazing!

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Overtime!

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Wow. An OT Super Bowl was bound to happen eventually but no one could've expected it this year.

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Where does this rank in terms of all-time sports choke jobs?

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I think I might be officially done for good with the NFL. The media will gloss over that facemask call, but a field goal is probably ballgame. 

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srossi wrote: Where does this rank in terms of all-time sports choke jobs?In football numbet one 

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Brady is way up there now. The best I have ever seen. And I cannot stand him or his hair weave.

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The kiddo was saying all week he didn't care who won as long as it was a good game. No rooting interest myself, but towards the end the wifey and I were rooting for the Pats, and he had taken up for the Falcons. Told him afterwards, his wish came true. He not only saw a good game, he saw the best of all time. That was unbelievable.

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LAF wrote: I think I might be officially done for good with the NFL. The media will gloss over that facemask call, but a field goal is probably ballgame. 
#NotMySuperBowlChamps

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srossi wrote: LAF wrote: I think I might be officially done for good with the NFL. The media will gloss over that facemask call, but a field goal is probably ballgame. 
#NotMySuperBowlChamps

Lol....I should go protest and get some Play-Doh.
I mean what they did after the call is amazing but how many fucking times can you miss these things?

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Franchise wrote: The falcons are going to come out flat after the marathon half time and give this game away.
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Brady GOAT and it's not even close. The heart of an assassin.

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Heenan Fan wrote: Falcons lose late on a controversial call.I told you so. Either the facemask penalty, but more so the asnine pass interference penalty in ot. Yeah, it probably was PI, but it was not the right way to end the game since so few of these type of penalties are called in the Super Bowl. The Michael Crabtree butrape non-call in SB 47 was 10 times worse than the PI call tonight. Bullshit finish, and I called it.

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and Tom Brady and the World Champion New England Patriots will be back in the Super Bowl next year - nothing in the AFC matches them and the team will be as strong or stronger than this one - stay tuned for number six!!

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LAF wrote: I think I might be officially done for good with the NFL. The media will gloss over that facemask call, but a field goal is probably ballgame. 
Yeah I agree on the above, but Jesus Christ The Falcons were managing the clock terribly...,19 seconds on the clock with it running & they snap the fucking ball?

BUT I will give credit where it is due as much as I can't stand The Patsies...Brady is the GOAT.....the guy gets it done....

I got all Patriot fans in my family, so I gotta listen to this during the off season....Fucking Jets! ;)

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LAF wrote: I think I might be officially done for good with the NFL. The media will gloss over that facemask call, but a field goal is probably ballgame. 
Yeah I agree on the above, but Jesus Christ The Falcons were managing the clock terribly...,19 seconds on the clock with it running & they snap the fucking ball?

BUT I will give credit where it is due as much as I can't stand The Patsies...Brady is the GOAT.....the guy gets it done....

I got all Patriot fans in my family, so I gotta listen to this during the off season....Fucking Jets! ;)

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Brady is best ever. No doubt. Biggest deficit before last night that was overcome - 10 points. Last night - 25. Not even worth debating anymore. Best ever.

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Had about 50 people in my house. Wife likes to have a party for SB night although she might watch 2 seconds of the game and an hour and a half of commercials. Yea, some people were upset about the face mask but coming from 25 behind. No one was bitching in the end.

My wife was very critical of Gisele's outfit. Didn't think she "brought it". Not even sure what that means.

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The last 2 superbowls were given to NewEngland. Both opponets were did in by their coaching staff.

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Benlen wrote: The last 2 superbowls were given to NewEngland. Both opponets were did in by their coaching staff.

I said the exact same thing to my Father last night when I saw him after the game....He's a huge Patsie fan...He just shrugged his shoulders & gave me a big shit eating smile...........Fuck sakes....

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This was all over social media last night about one minute after the game ended lol..

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Heenan Fan wrote: Heenan Fan wrote: Falcons lose late on a controversial call.I told you so. Either the facemask penalty, but more so the asnine pass interference penalty in ot. Yeah, it probably was PI, but it was not the right way to end the game since so few of these type of penalties are called in the Super Bowl. The Michael Crabtree butrape non-call in SB 47 was 10 times worse than the PI call tonight. Bullshit finish, and I called it.
That was clear PI, but it was ridiculous that after watching a season filled with flags almost every other play, they let everything go in the Super Bowl until OT.  There needs to be some type of consistency between the entire season and the last game.  The funny thing is, they had their officiating expert in the booth before and during the game and he specifically said that you "can't just let things go" in the Super Bowl and you have to call it like any other game, but clearly they didn't.

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Also, I found this really funny, this was Shaun King's tweet at halftime..a little into the 4th quarter he deleted it but as you know, nothing is really ever deleted from the internet...

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Married Jo wrote: Also, I found this really funny, this was Shaun King's tweet at halftime..a little into the 4th quarter he deleted it but as you know, nothing is really ever deleted from the internet...

I'm really so tired of assholes like King making everything political and being serious about it.  Jokes are one thing, but this guy is a joyless cunt, and for him to delete the tweet just shows how much of one he really is. 

I also like how he uses a drawing instead of a real pic on his Twitter profile to make himself look black since he's whiter than I am in reality. 

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It really is getting old. Since this is age of the Black Swann, people like King should know better.

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Very classy of Terry Bradshaw to intro Tom Brady as 'The Greatest QB Of Alltime' and Belichick as 'The Greatest Coach Of Alltime'.

People sort of forget he QBed the Steelers to 4 Super Bowl wins and his coach Chuck Knoll was at the helm for all of those wins also.

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Benlen wrote: The last 2 superbowls were given to NewEngland. Both opponets were did in by their coaching staff.

Even Pete Carroll couldn't figure out why they didn't run the ball three times, kick a FG and go home as champs

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Yea, I said to the guy standing next to me that the game was over. He said "no way they try to throw the ball with Bryant as their kicker". Both wrong.

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I feel so badly for the Falcons fans. If the Vikings fans had blown such a big lead and lost the Super Bowl, the people around would never recover. How do you go into the 2017 season with any sense of positivity or optimism, even with the Falcons being a top team regardless?

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Never recover? I think fans that take sporting events that seriously should probably reevaluate their priorities.

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tamalie wrote: I feel so badly for the Falcons fans. If the Vikings fans had blown such a big lead and lost the Super Bowl, the people around would never recover. How do you go into the 2017 season with any sense of positivity or optimism, even with the Falcons being a top team regardless?
How they're feeling now is exactly how the Patriots fans felt after the 2008 SB (the one in which they would've gone undefeated had they won).  That one was just brutal.  But even though this one was way worse, and even though it'll be a horrible off season, I think they'll be fine in the long run.  The Falcons are a good team with a great foundation in place.  If they can replace Shanahan with even a decent OC, they should be right in contention for the NFC title once again.    

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I never got the feeling that they take pro sports too seriously in the southeast. If this had happened to the Eagles or Giants, there might be suicides.

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dogfacedgremlin34 wrote: tamalie wrote: I feel so badly for the Falcons fans. If the Vikings fans had blown such a big lead and lost the Super Bowl, the people around would never recover. How do you go into the 2017 season with any sense of positivity or optimism, even with the Falcons being a top team regardless?
How they're feeling now is exactly how the Patriots fans felt after the 2008 SB (the one in which they would've gone undefeated had they won).  That one was just brutal.  But even though this one was way worse, and even though it'll be a horrible off season, I think they'll be fine in the long run.  The Falcons are a good team with a great foundation in place.  If they can replace Shanahan with even a decent OC, they should be right in contention for the NFC title once again.    
They have a lot of weapons.  I was surprised when the Browns cut Gabriel, then again they are the Browns.  Probably need to tighten up on the D a bit.  They have a very good chance of getting back there at least once in the next few years.

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Ultimark wrote: I never got the feeling that they take pro sports too seriously in the southeast. If this had happened to the Eagles or Giants, there might be suicides.
That was going to be my other comment...are there really any die hard Falcons fans?  Like, REAL die hards?  I've always thought ATL was comprised mostly of people from different parts of the country who had other primary NFL rooting interests.

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tamalie wrote: I feel so badly for the Falcons fans. If the Vikings fans had blown such a big lead and lost the Super Bowl, the people around would never recover. How do you go into the 2017 season with any sense of positivity or optimism, even with the Falcons being a top team regardless?
The Falcons don't have fans, they have bandwagon jumpers.

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dogfacedgremlin34 wrote: Ultimark wrote: I never got the feeling that they take pro sports too seriously in the southeast. If this had happened to the Eagles or Giants, there might be suicides.
That was going to be my other comment...are there really any die hard Falcons fans?  Like, REAL die hards?  I've always thought ATL was comprised mostly of people from different parts of the country who had other primary NFL rooting interests.
More natives now than in the past but, yea, a lot of transplants still.   The old time native also seem to favor college football and basketball over pro sports.  If the Georgia Bulldogs had lost like this in a NCAA championship game, then the reaction would be extreme.  

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Atlanta fans must feel worst than Cleveland fans.

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Benlen wrote: Atlanta fans must feel worst than Cleveland fans.Way worse.  Cleveland never had a 7 to 1 lead against the Cubs in game 7 in the 8th inning.  To me, that is the baseball equivalent of what happened to the Falcons.

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dogfacedgremlin34 wrote: Ultimark wrote: I never got the feeling that they take pro sports too seriously in the southeast. If this had happened to the Eagles or Giants, there might be suicides.
That was going to be my other comment...are there really any die hard Falcons fans?  Like, REAL die hards?  I've always thought ATL was comprised mostly of people from different parts of the country who had other primary NFL rooting interests.

That seems like a silly question.  The Falcons have been in Atlanta for more than 50 years and the city doesn't have more transplants than Miami or many other cities.  Over the course of 5 decades, I guarantee you the team has gotten tens of thousands of pretty hardcore fans in Georgia and even surrounding states that don't have a pro team.  No one is saying it's Green Bay, and I know college football might be more popular than pro in SEC territory, but come on. 

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srossi wrote: dogfacedgremlin34 wrote: Ultimark wrote: I never got the feeling that they take pro sports too seriously in the southeast. If this had happened to the Eagles or Giants, there might be suicides.
That was going to be my other comment...are there really any die hard Falcons fans?  Like, REAL die hards?  I've always thought ATL was comprised mostly of people from different parts of the country who had other primary NFL rooting interests.

That seems like a silly question.  The Falcons have been in Atlanta for more than 50 years and the city doesn't have more transplants than Miami or many other cities.  Over the course of 5 decades, I guarantee you the team has gotten tens of thousands of pretty hardcore fans in Georgia and even surrounding states that don't have a pro team.  No one is saying it's Green Bay, and I know college football might be more popular than pro in SEC territory, but come on. 
I am not saying there are no die hards.  I am saying there are far fewer than elsewhere and being a die hard in ATL or the other SE cities isn't quite the same as elsewhere.  Anyway, unless we can get some people from there to opine we are just providing opinions.  

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srossi wrote: dogfacedgremlin34 wrote: Ultimark wrote: I never got the feeling that they take pro sports too seriously in the southeast. If this had happened to the Eagles or Giants, there might be suicides.
That was going to be my other comment...are there really any die hard Falcons fans?  Like, REAL die hards?  I've always thought ATL was comprised mostly of people from different parts of the country who had other primary NFL rooting interests.

That seems like a silly question.  The Falcons have been in Atlanta for more than 50 years and the city doesn't have more transplants than Miami or many other cities.  Over the course of 5 decades, I guarantee you the team has gotten tens of thousands of pretty hardcore fans in Georgia and even surrounding states that don't have a pro team.  No one is saying it's Green Bay, and I know college football might be more popular than pro in SEC territory, but come on. 

Not a silly question at all, and has a lot more to do with the city of Atlanta than how long the Falcons have been in existence.  

Do you know anybody who you would label a Falcons die hard?  Does anybody on this board know anybody who's a Falcons die hard.  We have a few people from Georgia on this board.  Are they or do they know anybody who's a Falcons die hard?  

Between my real life, this board, Facebook and various other avenues, I feel that I could name at least one die hard of at least 28 or 29 of the other NFL teams.  Off the top of my head, can't think of anybody who's a die hard Jacksonville fan, or LA Ram fan (because, you know, LA) or an Atlanta fan.  Do they really exist?  Just thinking it's a silly question doesn't mean it's so.  

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It is even hard to find a die hard Miami fan. I know one - a cousin of mine who has never been to Miami. Adopted them when he was 6. 50 now. Has seen them in 5 different cities but never in Miami.

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dogfacedgremlin34 wrote: srossi wrote: dogfacedgremlin34 wrote: Ultimark wrote: I never got the feeling that they take pro sports too seriously in the southeast. If this had happened to the Eagles or Giants, there might be suicides.
That was going to be my other comment...are there really any die hard Falcons fans?  Like, REAL die hards?  I've always thought ATL was comprised mostly of people from different parts of the country who had other primary NFL rooting interests.

That seems like a silly question.  The Falcons have been in Atlanta for more than 50 years and the city doesn't have more transplants than Miami or many other cities.  Over the course of 5 decades, I guarantee you the team has gotten tens of thousands of pretty hardcore fans in Georgia and even surrounding states that don't have a pro team.  No one is saying it's Green Bay, and I know college football might be more popular than pro in SEC territory, but come on. 

Not a silly question at all, and has a lot more to do with the city of Atlanta than how long the Falcons have been in existence.  

Do you know anybody who you would label a Falcons die hard?  Does anybody on this board know anybody who's a Falcons die hard.  We have a few people from Georgia on this board.  Are they or do they know anybody who's a Falcons die hard?  

Between my real life, this board, Facebook and various other avenues, I feel that I could name at least one die hard of at least 28 or 29 of the other NFL teams.  Off the top of my head, can't think of anybody who's a die hard Jacksonville fan, or LA Ram fan (because, you know, LA) or an Atlanta fan.  Do they really exist?  Just thinking it's a silly question doesn't mean it's so.  

HBF can chime in if he sees this (hasn't been around for a while), but I'm just saying that anecdotal evidence of not knowing a diehard fan in your circle hardly means that out of all the fans that go to games there on a weekly basis (and the many more who watch on TV) that there's aren't at least a few thousand that really care.  You'd have to to watch some of those games.  It's not like the stadium was completely empty or just filled with visiting fans those years the team was awful.

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Some of the issues with building fan loyalty in Atlanta has been the lack of consistent success until recently. The Falcons never had consecutive winning seasons until 2008 and 2009. From 1966 onward until then, every winning season was preceded by and followed by a losing season. There were no dynasties, even along the lines of several consecutive division titles or wildcard bids. Even when the went 14-2 and made the Super Bowl in 1998, they went 7-9 in 1997 and 5-11 in 1999. With all of the other things handicapping the Falcons, the lack of success certainly hasn't helped.

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tamalie wrote: Some of the issues with building fan loyalty in Atlanta has been the lack of consistent success until recently. The Falcons never had consecutive winning seasons until 2008 and 2009. From 1966 onward until then, every winning season was preceded by and followed by a losing season. There were no dynasties, even along the lines of several consecutive division titles or wildcard bids. Even when the went 14-2 and made the Super Bowl in 1998, they went 7-9 in 1997 and 5-11 in 1999. With all of the other things handicapping the Falcons, the lack of success certainly hasn't helped.
That's another difference.  The Eagles had long stretches where they were awful yet they still had an avid fan base.  There was one stretch where they were bad from 1962 to 1978 or 79. Then they had 1 good period.  Then many more years of losing.  Then came Buddy who couldn't win playoff games.  After several years of BS, we had our silver years with Andy Reid.  Couldn't win the big one.  

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Heenan Fan wrote: Heenan Fan wrote: Falcons lose late on a controversial call.I told you so. Either the facemask penalty, but more so the asnine pass interference penalty in ot. Yeah, it probably was PI, but it was not the right way to end the game since so few of these type of penalties are called in the Super Bowl. The Michael Crabtree butrape non-call in SB 47 was 10 times worse than the PI call tonight. Bullshit finish, and I called it.BS.  He tomahawked chopped him clearly before the ball got there.  You HAVE to call it regardless of when it happens during the game.  Falcons were holding the entire game in the secondary.  There could have been even more pass interference calls if the Patriots didn't catch everything else.

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I was out of town and just got a chance to read this thread. Kinda fun given the outcome. I was in Montgomery visiting my brother to watch the game with him. By halftime, we were suicidal. Brady looked awful and threw several bad passes. Couldn't run the ball and couldn't stop the Falcons offense. As the Pats started to make the comeback it was hard to believe they could make it all the way back. Edelman made that catch and I said to my brother... "this could happen" Thankfully. It did. An incredible comeback and an epic fuck you. Brady/Belichick/Kraft win. The End

P.S. Thank you James White!

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