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I'm curious on the thoughts of those here who hated Obamacare and wanted it repealed, what you think of the GOP's new plan?




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"Nobody knew healthcare could be so complicated."  LOL

I don't see a whole lot of differences.  Instead of mandating coverage or you get penalized by the government it sounds like they're mandating coverage or you get penalized by the insurer, which is even worse for crony capitalism, and Obama's plan was the worst excuse for crony capitalism that I had ever seen.  Insurers still have to cover those with pre-existing conditions, which is the whole fucking problem in the first place.  They replace federal subsidies with tax credits and I'm failing to see the difference there.  And then the GOP adds there own little flavor with this ridiculous war on Planned Parenthood, which prevents a ton more abortions than it administers through their services (3% of what it does involves abortions).

This is a bullshit plan, Obamacare Lite with a slight topping of Christian conservatism thrown on top.  The absolute worst elements of Democrat bullshit and Republican bullshit rolled together into a nice shit sandwich.  What happened to Trump being the tough guy who was going to repeal this?  

Under Trump it's the same old shit.  We're going to get a long drawn-out apocalyptic war over 2 plans nearly identical but both sides will fight to the death over their version of the same thing which has been DOA since day one.

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I read that pre-existing conditions will be handled like now only if you don't have gaps in coverage. Trumps fanbase wouldn't like that at all.



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This will end poorly for the GOP. Once the toothpaste is out of the tubs it's impossible to push it back in.



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srossi wrote: "Nobody knew healthcare could be so complicated."  LOL

I don't see a whole lot of differences.  Instead of mandating coverage or you get penalized by the government it sounds like they're mandating coverage or you get penalized by the insurer, which is even worse for crony capitalism, and Obama's plan was the worst excuse for crony capitalism that I had ever seen.  Insurers still have to cover those with pre-existing conditions, which is the whole fucking problem in the first place.  They replace federal subsidies with tax credits and I'm failing to see the difference there.  And then the GOP adds there own little flavor with this ridiculous war on Planned Parenthood, which prevents a ton more abortions than it administers through their services (3% of what it does involves abortions).

This is a bullshit plan, Obamacare Lite with a slight topping of Christian conservatism thrown on top.  The absolute worst elements of Democrat bullshit and Republican bullshit rolled together into a nice shit sandwich.  What happened to Trump being the tough guy who was going to repeal this?  

Under Trump it's the same old shit.  We're going to get a long drawn-out apocalyptic war over 2 plans nearly identical but both sides will fight to the death over their version of the same thing which has been DOA since day one.


From what I've been able to ascertain thus far, it also will cut funding for the poor and give tax breaks for those making above $200K annually. 



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This is a nice aggregator about different types of ACA critics and what they think about the repeal bill.

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/3/7/14841580/obamacare-american-health-care-act



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DaNkinator wrote: I'm curious on the thoughts of those here who hated Obamacare and wanted it repealed, what you think of the GOP's new plan?


Just rearranging the deck chairs from what I can tell.  So far, pretty much all of the conservative groups hate it, so it is DOA.

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The bottom line is that Ocare must be fixed. We have 1 insurer left where I live and they are threatening to leave. So, what happens then? Of course the pols could cave and I could wind up paying $2500 a month in which case fuck it, I won't pay it.

This bill doesn't do it. From what I am told they are trying to do the things that can get through reconciliation. The pitch to the conservatives is that the rest will pass in part 2 and 3. Don't buy it. Both sides are motherfucking liars.

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Almost ready to put all of my assets in non-interest bearing instruments and to tell my wife to cut her practice by 2/3rds. That way, we can get all the juicy subsidies! The cost of this is getting that bad.

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Rep. Justin Amash:

The new Republican plan does not repeal/replace Obamacare; it repackages Obamacare. It's a political plan that signals retreat and will not reduce health care costs.

Obamacare is essentially a financing system to ensure that the insurance companies get paid to provide coverage to individuals who were previously deemed ineligible. The GOP proposal amends Obamacare and maintains its overall structure and general approach. It does not effectively address health care costs.
The states, independently or through multistate compacts, can more adequately tackle the particular health care needs of their residents. At a minimum, however, the starting point for congressional debate should be the Rand Paul/Mark Sanford legislation.

Ultimately, a sound and accessible health care system requires us to address the legal and institutional impediments that limit choice and competition, drive up the price of pharmaceuticals, and obscure costs through the third-party payer system. Because it will be substantially more affordable, such a system can provide a robust backstop for catastrophic situations and for the poor and vulnerable.

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So they're bound and determined to push this through.

Add to this info that his new budget it out. It cuts out funding to the EPA, Education, DOE, Housing and Urban development...

Thousands of jobs will be lost, millions possibly losing out on healthcare coverage, the list goes on and on.

All to pay for this wall and more defense. What good is that going to do if there are millions uninsured, unfed (he's cutting out Meals on Wheels), jobless, sick.....?

Give me an answer beyond calling me a bleeding heart liberal.



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DaNkinator wrote: So they're bound and determined to push this through.

Add to this info that his new budget it out. It cuts out funding to the EPA, Education, DOE, Housing and Urban development...

Thousands of jobs will be lost, millions possibly losing out on healthcare coverage, the list goes on and on.

All to pay for this wall and more defense. What good is that going to do if there are millions uninsured, unfed (he's cutting out Meals on Wheels), jobless, sick.....?

Give me an answer beyond calling me a bleeding heart liberal.

I can't recall a time in my life where we have seen a single administration blatantly push an agenda--namely, for the president and his cronies to become even richer than they already are, and fuck everybody else who wants to complain about it--and not even try to be savvy or discreet about it.  

Fuck this guy with the power of a thousand suns.  And fuck everybody who tries to defend him.



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Oh this will help
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/canadian-nurses-working-in-us-rejected-1.4026554

So let's cut available workers in an already underserviced region of the country

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I said it before: Good luck with that shithole guys! All to keep a few muslims and mexicans out and make a handful of billionaires even richer.

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