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 Posted: Mon Apr 24th, 2017 04:17 am
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I've been watching some WWF TV from the summer of 89 and there has been plenty of the rooster on TV which got me thinking.

Did Terry have any chance at getting over in the WWF as Terry Taylor? When I see him in this era he looks out of place; He looks boring and undersized compared to the rest of the roster. Was the move to the WWF destined to be a failure or could he have made it work? If he would have stayed in the NWA could he have made that work or did the closure of the UWF kill his career.    

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I remember when he was first signed everyone said he wasn't a WWF-type guy immediately. IIRC he came in as Terry Taylor and they gave him 5 seconds to get over, which he didn't do, and then they gave him the Rooster gimmick and buried him. I don't know if he was significantly smaller than a guy like DiBiase, but he clearly wasn't as charismatic and they weren't going to give him the time to prosper. It was a weird signing from the beginning.  In the NWA I see him getting a respectful mid-card babyface push but he wasn't going to set the world on fire anywhere. DiBiase probably gets a classic main event run with Flair and a chance at being NWA champion, to go back to that comparison. That was never going to happen for Taylor. 

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I remember seeing a tag match on Prime Time with Taylor and Houston against someone probably early in both of their WWF runs and they looked tiny.

To answer your statement wiki says ted was 2 inches taller and 35 pounds heavier.

So did the rooster really hurt him if he was a mid carder regardless? Some people talk so terribly about the rooster gimmick but if the guy isn't going to go anywhere why does it matter? He probably made better money during his WWF run than he did before or after for the most part.



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Terry could do much more than the WWF provided for him. As an outside observer during his first WWF run,  it surely looked like the Vince & Co had no interest in doing anything with him.It felt like he was being punished for some god-forsaken reason. He was saddled with a gimmick that was designed to fail from day one.



Be that as it may, Terry has been one of the few guys who has managed to find steady work consistently ( WWF/E, WCW, TNA) for the past 30+ years, when others of his generation have been reduced to doing autobiography signings and shoot interview,s essentially for pennies.


Love him or hate him, after the next world war, the two things left surviving are cockroaches and Terry Taylor.


And after all that, I thought he was more than adequate from bell to bell. I was a fan.

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f course there is the oft told tale that the Mr Perfect gimmick was going to go to Taylor or Hennig. Guess Terry must have drawn the short straw.


Again, I have no idea if it's true, but its's one of those classic "What If" scenarios.

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The WCW guys would work out at a Gold's Gym in Springfield in the early 90's when they did a philly show. Taylor would be there. The reality is that, in real life, he did have charisma. He was always joking around and very vocal. I had a conversation with him once and told him he had played a lot of characters recently. He said, "yea, everyone but myself". A decent guy if a bit arrogant.

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Wasn't his 93 WWF run supposed to be him playing himself or how he invisioned himself (terrific terry taylor)? I know this is post WCW so this would be post that conversation but TTT wasn't all that great.

To me Taylor seems a lot like Brad Armstrong, both were good in the ring, both were sucsessful in Mid South and both were said to be funny and good talkers behind the scenes.



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The first time I was able to watch US wrestling every week was NWA Worldwide around 1990. I was 11 and Terry Taylor was the first wrestler I ever found boring. I would even FF his matches (I had to tape show, it was on at 2am). I think I had the same reaction to Tom Zenk. If 11 year old me who would watch my tape about 5 times every week thought Taylor was boring, I can see Vince McMahon thinking the same thing. I started to enjoy him when he joined the York Foundation. 

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I thought when Terry Taylor turned on Chris Adams in UWF he was at his absolute best. And the unification of TV Title belts with Nikita was solid work too.



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Coincidentally, I have been watching Prime Time from this very period over the past few weeks.  The 8-1-88 episode had a Conquistadors vs Taylor and Sam Houston match.  The match was decent.  The Conquistadors were victorious when Houston was over zealous at the end, and Taylor turned on him after the match.  It was odd to see an angle like this on Prime Time rather than Superstars or Challenge.  It was even odder to see a guy turn after his first match.   This was Taylor's TV debut.
The next week on Prime Time, 8-8-88, Taylor had a match with Scott Casey from Toronto, and things just didn't click.  He won with the Scorpion Deathlock but was generally unimpressive and looked small and lethargic.  Hennig hasn't debuted yet at this point.  



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What do you need me to do? How big is my Paycheck? Ok , got it.

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beejmi wrote: What do you need me to do? How big is my Paycheck? Ok , got it.

That's kind of my point, Terry had a talent ceiling and the big money was in the WWF. He goes to the WWF is given a gimmick gets paid, does his time and then goes to WCW where he fits in a little bit better sizewise and has a fat wallet from his WWF time. I don't buy his rhetoric about the perfect gimmick because he would have failed with that as well. 

Blazer that match vs the conquistadors was the match I was thinking of. Terry and Sam looked like jobbers compared to a jobber team. (Sizewise) 

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It is really fascinating to go back and relive these Prime Times. They sometimes move slow, yet other times they are surprisingly entertaining. I watched most of these in my youth, but they still hold up well. I've mentioned this before, but I find both with the NWA Saturday Nights and the WWF Prime Times, you have a chance to get lost in the minutia when you watch the weekly shows back to back. Case in point is this Terry Taylor debut. Heenan is already complimenting him, but it will be interesting to see how quickly the Red Rooster gimmick comes about.



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Didn`t Taylor made his debut teaming up with Sam Houston and actually LOSING clean to the Conquistadors? After the match one of them turned heel while the Conquistadors simply walked away being ignored by everyone. Whenever the Conquistadors got a win nobody tried to make it a big deal, like "hey these goofs got a win". No one gave a fuck.

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Superstar wrote: I thought when Terry Taylor turned on Chris Adams in UWF he was at his absolute best. And the unification of TV Title belts with Nikita was solid work too.
Taylor & Eddie Gilbert were a very solid combination.



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