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This kid probably needs his own thread.  What he's been doing is pretty spectacular.  It was obvious last season that he was going to be a powerhouse, but he also looked like he was destined to be a high strikeout hitter with huge holes in his swing, more of a mistake hitter who could blast it 450 feet if you hung one but someone who could be pitched to.

The first month of this season, he's cut down on his Ks, takes walks like crazy, and lines singles the other way in addition to hitting 12 homers and driving in 25 runs.  And on top of that, he's a great baserunner and somehow making diving catches in right field.  He's going to become the face of baseball if he continues to do even 65% of this going forward.  Trout never really caught on as the next Jeter despite his talent (west coast might have something to do with it), so he should probably watch his back.

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srossi wrote: This kid probably needs his own thread.  What he's been doing is pretty spectacular.  It was obvious last season that he was going to be a powerhouse, but he also looked like he was destined to be a high strikeout hitter with huge holes in his swing, more of a mistake hitter who could blast it 450 feet if you hung one but someone who could be pitched to.

The first month of this season, he's cut down on his Ks, takes walks like crazy, and lines singles the other way in addition to hitting 12 homers and driving in 25 runs.  And on top of that, he's a great baserunner and somehow making diving catches in right field.  He's going to become the face of baseball if he continues to do even 65% of this going forward.  Trout never really caught on as the next Jeter despite his talent (west coast might have something to do with it), so he should probably watch his back.

Trout & Harper are the faces of baseball and will continue to be so for the next 10-15 years.

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freebirdsforever2001 wrote: srossi wrote: This kid probably needs his own thread.  What he's been doing is pretty spectacular.  It was obvious last season that he was going to be a powerhouse, but he also looked like he was destined to be a high strikeout hitter with huge holes in his swing, more of a mistake hitter who could blast it 450 feet if you hung one but someone who could be pitched to.

The first month of this season, he's cut down on his Ks, takes walks like crazy, and lines singles the other way in addition to hitting 12 homers and driving in 25 runs.  And on top of that, he's a great baserunner and somehow making diving catches in right field.  He's going to become the face of baseball if he continues to do even 65% of this going forward.  Trout never really caught on as the next Jeter despite his talent (west coast might have something to do with it), so he should probably watch his back.

Trout & Harper are the faces of baseball and will continue to be so for the next 10-15 years.
If the Angels continue  to suck  no one will care about Trout  anymore.  The east coast will eat up Judge and Sanchez if the  Yanks win.

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He's had a great month. Lets see in he has a great year. Hell, let's see if he passes the PED tests.
I remember some people getting excited over Abreu a few years ago. He's just another player now.

I hope Judge is the real deal tho.

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Judge is a lot different than Harper. People actually like him. I want to see how he does after going around the league for a couple of months. He will always have power but if they figure out how to pitch him that is all he'll have. Before he becomes the face of baseball he has to prove he's better than even Stanton nevermind guys like Trout. But I will say this, if he keeps this up he will definitely become the face of the Yankees if he isn't already.

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Benlen wrote: freebirdsforever2001 wrote: srossi wrote: This kid probably needs his own thread.  What he's been doing is pretty spectacular.  It was obvious last season that he was going to be a powerhouse, but he also looked like he was destined to be a high strikeout hitter with huge holes in his swing, more of a mistake hitter who could blast it 450 feet if you hung one but someone who could be pitched to.

The first month of this season, he's cut down on his Ks, takes walks like crazy, and lines singles the other way in addition to hitting 12 homers and driving in 25 runs.  And on top of that, he's a great baserunner and somehow making diving catches in right field.  He's going to become the face of baseball if he continues to do even 65% of this going forward.  Trout never really caught on as the next Jeter despite his talent (west coast might have something to do with it), so he should probably watch his back.

Trout & Harper are the faces of baseball and will continue to be so for the next 10-15 years.
If the Angels continue  to suck  no one will care about Trout  anymore.  The east coast will eat up Judge and Sanchez if the  Yanks win.

Trout is all over the place now on a last place team. Besides, when he signs with the Phillies in 2020, he'll be even more recognizable.

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Superstar wrote: Judge is a lot different than Harper. People actually like him. I want to see how he does after going around the league for a couple of months. He will always have power but if they figure out how to pitch him that is all he'll have. Before he becomes the face of baseball he has to prove he's better than even Stanton nevermind guys like Trout. But I will say this, if he keeps this up he will definitely become the face of the Yankees if he isn't already.
This Judge kid is off to a good start, but  he'll fall back to reality soon enough.

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I'll never forget a player on the Tigers a few years ago "Red Pop" Chris Shelton. Had 8 HRs in April until the pitchers figured out how to pitch to him.

Here's hoping that Aaron Judge meets a better fate.

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freebirdsforever2001 wrote: srossi wrote: This kid probably needs his own thread.  What he's been doing is pretty spectacular.  It was obvious last season that he was going to be a powerhouse, but he also looked like he was destined to be a high strikeout hitter with huge holes in his swing, more of a mistake hitter who could blast it 450 feet if you hung one but someone who could be pitched to.

The first month of this season, he's cut down on his Ks, takes walks like crazy, and lines singles the other way in addition to hitting 12 homers and driving in 25 runs.  And on top of that, he's a great baserunner and somehow making diving catches in right field.  He's going to become the face of baseball if he continues to do even 65% of this going forward.  Trout never really caught on as the next Jeter despite his talent (west coast might have something to do with it), so he should probably watch his back.

Trout & Harper are the faces of baseball and will continue to be so for the next 10-15 years.

Damn Harper and Trout are the faces than baseball needs to do a better job promoting there stars because trout and harper are probably a little bit above Crosby and The Caps skater in terms of national known stars. 



 

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chrob61 wrote: I'll never forget a player on the Tigers a few years ago "Red Pop" Chris Shelton. Had 8 HRs in April until the pitchers figured out how to pitch to him.

Here's hoping that Aaron Judge meets a better fate.


Good point.  If Judge is going to be a good MLB hitter, then he'll make adjustments too.

He already made one from last year to this year in doing a better job laying off the outside breaking pitches.  Eventually, pitchers will counter that with something else, and he'll have to learn how to adjust to that too.

If he stays off the stuff out of the zone at the plate and stays healthy, he's going to be special.  He's 280 lbs and runs like a deer.  He covers a lot of ground in the OF and has a RF arm.  He hits the ball a mile.

 

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krazykid18 wrote: freebirdsforever2001 wrote: srossi wrote: This kid probably needs his own thread.  What he's been doing is pretty spectacular.  It was obvious last season that he was going to be a powerhouse, but he also looked like he was destined to be a high strikeout hitter with huge holes in his swing, more of a mistake hitter who could blast it 450 feet if you hung one but someone who could be pitched to.

The first month of this season, he's cut down on his Ks, takes walks like crazy, and lines singles the other way in addition to hitting 12 homers and driving in 25 runs.  And on top of that, he's a great baserunner and somehow making diving catches in right field.  He's going to become the face of baseball if he continues to do even 65% of this going forward.  Trout never really caught on as the next Jeter despite his talent (west coast might have something to do with it), so he should probably watch his back.

Trout & Harper are the faces of baseball and will continue to be so for the next 10-15 years.

Damn Harper and Trout are the faces than baseball needs to do a better job promoting there stars because trout and harper are probably a little bit above Crosby and The Caps skater in terms of national known stars. 


Harper is in and does ads for at least 10 different products. Trout has around 5 -7 ads. Just because they might not be shown on BET or Telemundo, it doesn't mean that they're not be pushed.

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I saw Mike Trout on a box of hot pretzels. Otherwise I have never seen him or Harper in anything or even know what they look like.

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LAF wrote: I saw Mike Trout on a box of hot pretzels. Otherwise I have never seen him or Harper in anything or even know what they look like.

Exactly but here goes freebird going straight to race rather than wanting MLB to do a better job at promoting there stars simple and plain in the 90's baseball had so many superstars who were recognizable now i wouldn't know Trout if he passed by me and thats a problem. 

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freebirdsforever2001 wrote: krazykid18 wrote: freebirdsforever2001 wrote: srossi wrote: This kid probably needs his own thread.  What he's been doing is pretty spectacular.  It was obvious last season that he was going to be a powerhouse, but he also looked like he was destined to be a high strikeout hitter with huge holes in his swing, more of a mistake hitter who could blast it 450 feet if you hung one but someone who could be pitched to.

The first month of this season, he's cut down on his Ks, takes walks like crazy, and lines singles the other way in addition to hitting 12 homers and driving in 25 runs.  And on top of that, he's a great baserunner and somehow making diving catches in right field.  He's going to become the face of baseball if he continues to do even 65% of this going forward.  Trout never really caught on as the next Jeter despite his talent (west coast might have something to do with it), so he should probably watch his back.

Trout & Harper are the faces of baseball and will continue to be so for the next 10-15 years.

Damn Harper and Trout are the faces than baseball needs to do a better job promoting there stars because trout and harper are probably a little bit above Crosby and The Caps skater in terms of national known stars. 


Harper is in and does ads for at least 10 different products. Trout has around 5 -7 ads. Just because they might not be shown on BET or Telemundo, it doesn't mean that they're not be pushed.

I read in Sports Illustrated more than a year ago how Trout was considered a complete failure as the poster child of MLB. It's not happening no matter how much you want to believe it is. He's a good talent but isn't connecting with a national fanbase and can't get primo endorsements. 

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srossi wrote:I read in Sports Illustrated more than a year ago how Trout was considered a complete failure as the poster child of MLB. It's not happening no matter how much you want to believe it is. He's a good talent but isn't connecting with a national fanbase and can't get primo endorsements. 

Nobody cares about Trout because not even his home fanbase cares about him or their team.  Honestly, Albert Pujols has more credibility than Trout even today as far as face and name recognition goes.  If your home team does nothing to truly promote you, and your fanbase isn't paying to see you, you are screwed.  Add to it that SoCal doesn't really give a shit about baseball in general and 3/4 of the country isn't staying up past their bedtime to watch him play...means that Trout is basically not special.  I would argue that Kris Bryant is more of a face for baseball than Trout because there are Cubs fans nationwide and they all know who Bryant is (and they actually support him by buying his merch).

If Aaron Judge can just hit 25-30 HR per year and hit .275, he will PRINT money.  Because the Yankees fanbase has wanted somebody like him since Mo and Jeter retired.

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srossi wrote: [size=He's a good talent but isn't connecting with a national fanbase and can't get primo endorsements. ]
I dunno man, those hot pretzels are pretty good :)

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krazykid18 wrote: LAF wrote: I saw Mike Trout on a box of hot pretzels. Otherwise I have never seen him or Harper in anything or even know what they look like.

Exactly but here goes freebird going straight to race rather than wanting MLB to do a better job at promoting there stars simple and plain in the 90's baseball had so many superstars who were recognizable now i wouldn't know Trout if he passed by me and thats a problem. 

You must not watch a lot of TV or go to the store that often as I've seen both on multiple products and commercials. Maybe you don't get the same stuff in your market. I know for a fact that Trout doesn't care for a lot of endorsements and focuses on playing baseball and hunting and fishing and his new wife. Harper seems to be everywhere.

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Right now I don't think there is a face of baseball. Maybe a face of a region but not of all baseball.

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The idea that the Angels fanbase doesn't care about its team is ridiculous. The team drew an average of 37,236 fans per game last season, 3,016,142 in total. That is better than every MLB club except the Dodgers, Cardinals, Blue Jays, Giants, Cubs, and Yankees.

The big issue for MLB is that it's done a good job of promoting teams and the MLB brand itself, but has fallen down badly when it comes to pushing individual players regardless of teams or markets.

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I rarely follow baseball outside of my home teams (Baltimore Orioles, Washington Nationals) but I watched a bit of the SF Giants vs NY Mets game tonight on ESPN. I had never heard of Judge before tonight but they spent nearly an entire inning talking about him and his size. They were pushing for him to enter the home run contest and were predicting that he would win it all. They claimed he would be a much better home run hitter than Giancarlo Stanton.

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Big Garea Fan wrote: I rarely follow baseball outside of my home teams (Baltimore Orioles, Washington Nationals) but I watched a bit of the SF Giants vs NY Mets game tonight on ESPN. I had never heard of Judge before tonight but they spent nearly an entire inning talking about him and his size. They were pushing for him to enter the home run contest and were predicting that he would win it all. They claimed he would be a much better home run hitter than Giancarlo Stanton.

Exit velocity is the new rage among sabermetricians, and Judge and Stanton are basically the 2 players who have exit velocity in a different stratosphere than everyone else in baseball. It's basically the speed of the ball right after it's hit. In short, he launches it a fucking mile and it goes there fast. 

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Uh oh. You know what this means.







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I got that issue a few days ago, but not sure if that's a national cover. Since SI has gone with mostly regional covers, the SI cover curse is dead.

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srossi wrote: I got that issue a few days ago, but not sure if that's a national cover. Since SI has gone with mostly regional covers, the SI cover curse is dead.Didn't get that issue out west. Got some guy climbing Mt. Everest.

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I could give a shit less whether or not Madison Ave views Mike Trout as the face of baseball. He is easily the best player in the game at the moment. All apologies to Harper who is a great talent as well.
The one concern with Trout is that he keeps getting bigger.  We are starting to see that he may be susceptible to nagging injuries. 

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Ultimark wrote: I could give a shit less whether or not Madison Ave views Mike Trout as the face of baseball. He is easily the best player in the game at the moment. All apologies to Harper who is a great talent as well.
The one concern with Trout is that he keeps getting bigger.  We are starting to see that he may be susceptible to nagging injuries. 

Can't wait for him to come back to Philly after his contract with the Angels is up. Also, Aaron Altherr of the Phillies is having a similar season as Judge. in 84 AB's, he has 8 HR 22 RBI's and hitting .333. Altherr has a better OPS then Judge and better OBP. Judge has a slight lead in Slugging.

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Altherr is a lifetime .240 hitter and that is with his hot start numbers. Sure he is having a career year but he will peter out with more playing time. He'll end up with a nice .280 25hr year.

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495 foot shot last night

Love the 'Judge's Chambers' schtick.



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.@TheJudge44 received MVP chants last night.

ON THE ROAD. 3,000 MILES AWAY. https://t.co/zYBlvjxhut pic.twitter.com/IUm2xSqRve

— Cut4 (@Cut4) June 13, 2017
While Aaron Judge's 435-foot, two-run home run Monday night wasn't as breathtaking as the near-500-footer from the day before, it still brought spectators to their feet.

The New York Yankees rookie smoked his MLB-leading 22nd home run in the top of the eighth inning off Los Angeles Angels reliever Bud Norris. MVP chants followed. On the road. On the opposite coast from the home confines of Yankee Stadium.

Many fans clad in Yankees gear were on hand to lend their support to Judge, who was born and raised in California. With the 25-year-old sporting a .347/.453/.728 slash line, perhaps the MVP chants aren't out of line, even if they may be a tad premature.

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.@TheJudge44 keeps the fireworks going! pic.twitter.com/rnds8LQrB2

— MLB (@MLB) July 5, 2017
Aaron Judge slugged his way into the New York Yankees' record books Wednesday afternoon in the Bronx, smashing a two-run bomb off Toronto Blue Jays right-hander Marco Estrada for his 29th home run of the season, which ties Joe DiMaggio's franchise record for long balls by a rookie.

Judge, who's set to participate in next week's Home Run Derby, needed just 81 games to smack his 29th round-tripper, a towering, fourth-inning blast to right-center. In 1936, his first season with the Yankees, DiMaggio didn't go deep for the 29th time until Sept. 13, in his 128th game of the campaign.

Still a few days shy of the season's unofficial halfway mark, Judge sits 20 home runs short of the MLB rookie record for homers set in 1987 by Mark McGwire, who went deep 49 times in his first full season with the Oakland Athletics.

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Yankees w/ 200+ Total Bases and 50+ walks before All-Star Break:


Aaron Judge

Mickey Mantle (1956)
Lou Gehrig (1936)

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The Yankees are a solid team- look at their rankings both offensive and pitching on yahoo. They may not be #1, but they are single digits across the board.

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chrob61 wrote: The Yankees are a solid team- look at their rankings both offensive and pitching on yahoo. They may not be #1, but they are single digits across the board.Yankees look good on offense this year but I don't see them getting past the Astros..

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chrob61 wrote: The Yankees are a solid team- look at their rankings both offensive and pitching on yahoo. They may not be #1, but they are single digits across the board.
Yankees pitching is in freefall.  No one expected the starters to continue to be good, but the fact that extremely reliable relievers like Betances (who's still going to the All-Star Game) and Clippard can't throw strikes the past few weeks is unexpected.  Every loss seems like a heart-breaker because their offense gets them back in it after the starter digs a hole for them, and then the bullpen blows it.  This is not a very good team right now, but I didn't expect anything from them this year anyway.  The development of these young offensive players is way ahead of schedule and this team will be unstoppable in 2 years when they're all in their prime and the Yankees can go out and spend some cash on pitchers. 

But you're simply not going to win with Tanaka having a bad year, Sabathia running on fumes, Pineda who we have to assume will always be maddeningly inconsistent, Severino, and Montgomery.  Severino should be a solid #2 for years to come and Montgomery is fine and could evolve into a #4.  They need to build around those guys.But it's hard to do in the current baseball environment because 1) injuries and Tommy John surgeries in particular are out of control and 2) starting pitching has lost most of its value as teams seem to turn to the bullpen to get half the outs in 3 out of 5 games.  The role of the starting pitcher itself is in danger of going extinct.  You can count on one hand the number of pitchers who a manager will consistently let pitch 7 innings.  7 is the new 9, and that's moving towards 6, and maybe in 10 years 5.  And that's for the BEST pitchers. 

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srossi wrote: chrob61 wrote: The Yankees are a solid team- look at their rankings both offensive and pitching on yahoo. They may not be #1, but they are single digits across the board.
Yankees pitching is in freefall.  No one expected the starters to continue to be good, but the fact that extremely reliable relievers like Betances (who's still going to the All-Star Game) and Clippard can't throw strikes the past few weeks is unexpected.  Every loss seems like a heart-breaker because their offense gets them back in it after the starter digs a hole for them, and then the bullpen blows it.  This is not a very good team right now, but I didn't expect anything from them this year anyway.  The development of these young offensive players is way ahead of schedule and this team will be unstoppable in 2 years when they're all in their prime and the Yankees can go out and spend some cash on pitchers. 

But you're simply not going to win with Tanaka having a bad year, Sabathia running on fumes, Pineda who we have to assume will always be maddeningly inconsistent, Severino, and Montgomery.  Severino should be a solid #2 for years to come and Montgomery is fine and could evolve into a #4.  They need to build around those guys.But it's hard to do in the current baseball environment because 1) injuries and Tommy John surgeries in particular are out of control and 2) starting pitching has lost most of its value as teams seem to turn to the bullpen to get half the outs in 3 out of 5 games.  The role of the starting pitcher itself is in danger of going extinct.  You can count on one hand the number of pitchers who a manager will consistently let pitch 7 innings.  7 is the new 9, and that's moving towards 6, and maybe in 10 years 5.  And that's for the BEST pitchers. 

I will default to your wisdom- you should know best!  I am going off yahoo team stats. 

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Do the Yankees have any prospects in the minor leagues that they are not counting on going forward (Gleyber Torres and the like) that could be offered to Detroit and get them to bite for Justin Verlander? The Yankees can absorb the salary and need a front line pitcher. There's no doubt that Verlander is ready to leave and he's not having fun...a pennant race would sharpen him up. Illich's death seems to be making the Tigers less likely to want to pay big money until the estate settles things, and by ridding them of a $60M plus contract for this year and the next two might just be enticing to them.

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Superstar wrote: Do the Yankees have any prospects in the minor leagues that they are not counting on going forward (Gleyber Torres and the like) that could be offered to Detroit and get them to bite for Justin Verlander? The Yankees can absorb the salary and need a front line pitcher. There's no doubt that Verlander is ready to leave and he's not having fun...a pennant race would sharpen him up. Illich's death seems to be making the Tigers less likely to want to pay big money until the estate settles things, and by ridding them of a $60M plus contract for this year and the next two might just be enticing to them.
The Yankees still have the 2nd ranked system (behind only the Braves) even after Judge and Sanchez made it big.  They have lots of guys (Blake Rutherford and Justus Sheffield are 2 of the other big guns, not counting Clint Frazier who is getting his cup of coffee in the bigs right now due to injury).  Verlander though?  That seems like a trade we'll regret.  I don't want him or his contract. 

But if they want almost any veteran pitcher from a non-elite team, they easily have the ability to make a trade at the deadline.  I'm struggling to think of anyone I would be willing to give up top prospects for though.  And this year is too early.  They're not winning the WS this year no matter what.  I'd be more inclined to do it if it's acquiring the final piece of the puzzle in another year or two.    

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(rumor) Yankees just picked up Cueto from Giants, they have Stratton starting today vs. Detroit.
FALSE ALARM- here's the real scoop, Cueto scratched with inner ear infection.
http://www.sfchronicle.com/giants/article/Giants-scratch-Johnny-Cueto-at-last-minute-with-11270138.php&cmpid=twitter-premium

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chrob61 wrote: (rumor) Yankees just picked up Cueto from Giants, they have Stratton starting today vs. Detroit.
He's better than Verlander

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chrob61 wrote: (rumor) Yankees just picked up Cueto from Giants, they have Stratton starting today vs. Detroit.
I've heard that rumor for several months now.  I'll believe it when I see it.  He's already 31 and has an ERA over 4.00 this year in the N.L.  I don't think he's the guy who will suddenly set the world on fire for them.

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Superstar wrote: chrob61 wrote: (rumor) Yankees just picked up Cueto from Giants, they have Stratton starting today vs. Detroit.
He's better than Verlander

Sorry- that was an incorrect rumor- I am following the yahoo feeds on the Giants/Tigers game and got that one WRONG! So scratch that!

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Inner ear infection on Cueto- story above.

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chrob61 wrote: Superstar wrote: chrob61 wrote: (rumor) Yankees just picked up Cueto from Giants, they have Stratton starting today vs. Detroit.
He's better than Verlander

Sorry- that was an incorrect rumor- I am following the yahoo feeds on the Giants/Tigers game and got that one WRONG! So scratch that!

Every time Cueto blinks they say he's coming to the Yankees.  Not sure why some involved in the rumor mill are so obsessed with that particular deal. 

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beejmi wrote: Yankees w/ 200+ Total Bases and 50+ walks before All-Star Break:


Aaron Judge

Mickey Mantle (1956)
Lou Gehrig (1936)


Here's a negative stat for Judge. He is striking out at an alarming rate. After 81 games, he has struckout 104 times. As the pitchers make adjustments & figure him out, he will end up with over 200 strikeouts.
The 3 top strikeout totals are:

223 - Mark Reynolds
222 - Adam Dunn
219 - Chris Davis


BTW, Mickey Mantle's highest strikeout total in a season was 126. The Babe's highest total was 93 & Gehrig's highest total was 84.

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lobo316 wrote: beejmi wrote: Yankees w/ 200+ Total Bases and 50+ walks before All-Star Break:


Aaron Judge

Mickey Mantle (1956)
Lou Gehrig (1936)


Here's a negative stat for Judge. He is striking out at an alarming rate. After 81 games, he has struckout 104 times. As the pitchers make adjustments & figure him out, he will end up with over 200 strikeouts.
The 3 top strikeout totals are:

223 - Mark Reynolds
222 - Adam Dunn
219 - Chris Davis


BTW, Mickey Mantle's highest strikeout total in a season was 126. The Babe's highest total was 93 & Gehrig's highest total was 84.

It's a different game now.  200 K seasons are going to start exploding.  Watching Judge's at-bats, you don't get the feeling that he's not making contact.  He's 3 and 2 on almost every count, fouls off pitches, leads the league in walks, and when he's not hitting home runs he can spray singles all over the field.  I hate high K guys but he just never gave me that impression.  Now last year was a different story when everything was either K or homer after his call-up.  But he's become a pretty complete hitter and the Ks are just par for the course in 2017. 

One of the major stories in all of baseball this year is about how MLB is worrying about length of games but have missed the real disaster that is developing: almost every plate appearance ends in a K, walk, or home run now.  I think I read about 40% of plate appearances features the ball not being put in play.  No defence, no baserunning, no building rallies, no excitement.  That's alarming and I don't know how that can be rectified with all these flame-throwing relievers that have taken over the game.

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srossi wrote: Superstar wrote: Do the Yankees have any prospects in the minor leagues that they are not counting on going forward (Gleyber Torres and the like) that could be offered to Detroit and get them to bite for Justin Verlander? The Yankees can absorb the salary and need a front line pitcher. There's no doubt that Verlander is ready to leave and he's not having fun...a pennant race would sharpen him up. Illich's death seems to be making the Tigers less likely to want to pay big money until the estate settles things, and by ridding them of a $60M plus contract for this year and the next two might just be enticing to them.
The Yankees still have the 2nd ranked system (behind only the Braves) even after Judge and Sanchez made it big.  They have lots of guys (Blake Rutherford and Justus Sheffield are 2 of the other big guns, not counting Clint Frazier who is getting his cup of coffee in the bigs right now due to injury).  Verlander though?  That seems like a trade we'll regret.  I don't want him or his contract. 

But if they want almost any veteran pitcher from a non-elite team, they easily have the ability to make a trade at the deadline.  I'm struggling to think of anyone I would be willing to give up top prospects for though.  And this year is too early.  They're not winning the WS this year no matter what.  I'd be more inclined to do it if it's acquiring the final piece of the puzzle in another year or two.    
I think Miguel Andujar will be the guy other teams will want from the Yankees.

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Benlen wrote: srossi wrote: Superstar wrote: Do the Yankees have any prospects in the minor leagues that they are not counting on going forward (Gleyber Torres and the like) that could be offered to Detroit and get them to bite for Justin Verlander? The Yankees can absorb the salary and need a front line pitcher. There's no doubt that Verlander is ready to leave and he's not having fun...a pennant race would sharpen him up. Illich's death seems to be making the Tigers less likely to want to pay big money until the estate settles things, and by ridding them of a $60M plus contract for this year and the next two might just be enticing to them.
The Yankees still have the 2nd ranked system (behind only the Braves) even after Judge and Sanchez made it big.  They have lots of guys (Blake Rutherford and Justus Sheffield are 2 of the other big guns, not counting Clint Frazier who is getting his cup of coffee in the bigs right now due to injury).  Verlander though?  That seems like a trade we'll regret.  I don't want him or his contract. 

But if they want almost any veteran pitcher from a non-elite team, they easily have the ability to make a trade at the deadline.  I'm struggling to think of anyone I would be willing to give up top prospects for though.  And this year is too early.  They're not winning the WS this year no matter what.  I'd be more inclined to do it if it's acquiring the final piece of the puzzle in another year or two.    
I think Miguel Andujar will be the guy other teams will want from the Yankees.

Andujar had 1 ML game and went 3-for-4 with a walk, driving in 4 runs and stealing a base.  And then they sent him down.  Get that guy a first baseman's mitt and get him out there. 

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It was inevitable.

New York Yankees slugger Aaron Judge made history Friday night when he crushed his 30th home run of the season. With the long ball, he passed the legendary Joe DiMaggio for the franchise's single-season rookie home run record.

The Baby Bronx Bombers were already well on their way to christening Yankee Stadium as the house that Judge built with his incredible power far exceeding expectations. Now, he's etched his name among the greats, at least for the time being.

A 21-year-old DiMaggio hit 29 home runs in his rookie season back in 1936 across 138 games. He hit his last home run of the season on Sept. 13. In fact, he hit three that day over two games in a doubleheader.

Judge cranked his 30th in only his 82nd game of the season. The All-Star break hasn't even creased the calendar yet, and he's got a semi-realistic shot at 60 home runs if everything breaks the right way.

The Yankees, perhaps more than any other franchise, have had an incredibly storied list of names grace their rosters over the years. None have ever accomplished what Judge has in their rookie year. Not Mickey Mantle. Not Lou Gehrig. Nobody.

The 25-year-old still has a way to go to match DiMaggio's other numbers from that fateful year. In addition to 29 homers, DiMaggio knocked 44 doubles and 15 triples. To date, Judge has 13 doubles and three triples.

How the remainder of Judge's inaugural season and career in the Bronx winds up remains to be seen, but with this home run, he will not simply be a footnote in Yankees history books.

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Everything about Aaron Judge remains larger than life - including the cost of his shirt.

The New York Yankees phenom's debut pinstriped jersey from 2016 was sold for $157,366 on Sunday in an auction held by Steiner Sports, according to ESPN's Darren Rovell.

No jersey has sold for more in the "Big Four" leagues in the past 15 years than Judge's. For reference, Steph Curry's jersey from Game 3 of this year's NBA Finals was auctioned for $135,060 in June.

Judge, who's wowed everyone in baseball with his prodigious power, leads the American League with 33 home runs, and is tied for the major-league lead with Giancarlo Stanton.

The 25-year-old made his big-league debut Aug. 13 last year at Yankee Stadium, going 2-for-4 with - you guessed it - a home run in his first at-bat in the show.

A sign of things to come, clearly.

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CLEVELAND (AP) Aaron Judge's slump has carried him to the bench.

Judge is not in New York's starting lineup for Thursday night's game against the Cleveland Indians, a move Yankees manager Joe Girardi decided was necessary to give the slugger a chance to regroup.

''He's struggling. We felt we'd give him a day off and maybe it helps him. You try to do it a lot of different ways when guys are struggling. You keep running him out there. I just felt maybe a day off would do him some good.''

Judge is batting just .164 (11 of 67) with four homers, nine RBIs and 29 strikeouts since the All-Star break. His batting average has dropped from 329 to .299 and he struck out in 21 consecutive games.

''Mechanically he's a little bit off,'' Girardi said. ''I think he's missing some pitches he wasn't missing the first half of the season and those are leading to his problems.''

With Indians ace Corey Kluber on the mound in the series opener, Girardi felt it was the right time to rest the power hitter.

Judge leads the majors with 34 homers but he's not been connecting as of late, and Girardi wants to give the 25-year-old a mental break.

Girardi conceded that players can make things tougher on themselves in trying to get their swing back.

''I think a lot depends on how tough the guy is mentally,'' Girardi said. ''If you struggle for a while, you're going to get frustrated. Is that pressing? I don't know. Bottom line in either case you're not happy with the results so you're going to work at it, try to fix it.''

Girardi also gave designated hitter Matt Holliday a night off. He's batting only .182 in his last nine games.

Judge and Holliday are both expected to be back in the lineup on Friday.

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He was so red hot a slump was bound to happen. It's only been 3 weeks and he's still hitting some home runs here and there. He needs to start laying off of pitches out of the zone again, he's chasing.

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Beginning of the end for Ryan Howard.  This was before the injury.   That stupid shit Joe Morgan got in his head and convinced him to try and pull every pitch.  Stopped hitting home runs to the opposite field.  Was never the same after that.  Again, even before the Achillies he was headed the wrong way. 
Edit - Home run derby for Howard was beginning of the end. 

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Despite being in a slump Judge hit the Jumbotron at the Rogers Center in batting practice today.

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Mysterious wrote: Despite being in a slump Judge hit the Jumbotron at the Rogers Center in batting practice today.
Despite being in a slump, Tiger Woods shot -13 at the local Putt-Putt course today.

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Seen Tiger fishing. He actually looks physically fit. I really think he doesn't want to play anymore. I know his back problem is legit. Not doubting that. Just think he has lost the desire as well.

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lobo316 wrote: beejmi wrote: Yankees w/ 200+ Total Bases and 50+ walks before All-Star Break:


Aaron Judge

Mickey Mantle (1956)
Lou Gehrig (1936)


Here's a negative stat for Judge. He is striking out at an alarming rate. After 81 games, he has struckout 104 times. As the pitchers make adjustments & figure him out, he will end up with over 200 strikeouts.
The 3 top strikeout totals are:

223 - Mark Reynolds
222 - Adam Dunn
219 - Chris Davis


BTW, Mickey Mantle's highest strikeout total in a season was 126. The Babe's highest total was 93 & Gehrig's highest total was 84.





It's not exactly a record you want to chase.
New York Yankees outfielder Aaron Judge set a new MLB record when he struck out in the top of the ninth inning of Wednesday's game against the New York Mets. It was the 33rd consecutive game where Judge has struck out, breaking a previous record held by retired slugger Adam Dunn.
Judge almost made it, too. He didn't go down on strikes until his fifth plate appearance of the game and he even worked the count full.
The last time the 25-year-old rookie didn't get punched out was on July 7 against the Milwaukee Brewers when he went 1-for-5 with a home run.
Even before Judge slowed at the plate following the All-Star break, he was prone to striking out. To date, he has struck out in 31.8 percent of his plate appearances.
Despite the inauspicious streak, Judge neither leads the majors in strikeouts or strikeout percentage. Minnesota Twins third baseman Miguel Sano leads baseball with 164 strikeouts while Texas Rangers third baseman Joey Gallo has fanned in 37.3 percent of his plate appearances.
Numbing the pain somewhat, however, was the monstrous home run Judge sent into the night sky earlier in the game.

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Aaron Judge may be one of the most powerful, and popular, players in baseball, but the behemoth of a human does have a weakness.

The 25-year-old New York Yankees rookie struck out for the 36th straight game on Saturday, breaking the single-season record for consecutive games with a strikeout.

Aaron Judge strikes out against Chris Sale, breaking the single-season record for consecutive games with a strikeout (36). pic.twitter.com/lCfY8dSDAQ

— ESPN Stats & Info (@ESPNStatsInfo) August 20, 2017
Judge had already set a similar record, but for non-pitchers, when he struck out against the New York Mets earlier this week.

Entering Saturday's contest, Judge had already struck out 163 times this season.

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1st half wonder only.

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Aaron Judge has garnered headlines for his powerful swings and his regular misses. Often lost in the shuffle, however, may be his penchant for patience.

On Monday, Judge became the first rookie since Jim Gilliam in 1953 to be issued 100 walks in a season, according to ESPN.

The New York Yankees behemoth was issued a trio of free passes Monday afternoon against the Baltimore Orioles, upping his season total to 102. In fact, only Joey Votto and Mike Trout have walked more frequently than Judge, who has done so 17.7 percent of the time this season. While much is made about Judge's strikeout rate, he has more than made up for it by drawing walks.

Since 1913, according to Baseball-Reference's play index, only five rookies have recorded 100 or more walks. Ted Williams recorded the most in 1939, receiving 107 walks as a 20-year-old.

Judge should easily surpass that number before season's end if he keeps up the pace.

Overall, despite some recent struggles, Judge has put together an incredible first pro campaign batting .275/.410/.572 with 38 home runs, 85 RBIs, 101 runs scored, and now, 102 walks.

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Aaron Judge's already historic season is now officially one for the record books.

The New York Yankees rookie phenom continued his stunning freshman campaign Sunday with a mammoth home run - his 40th - off Texas Rangers reliever Nick Martinez in the fourth inning. Judge joins Mark McGwire as the only rookies in baseball history to have hit 40 home runs, according to Baseball Reference.

List of Yankees who reached 40 HR in their age-25 seasons or younger:

Ruth
Gehrig
DiMaggio
Mantle
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Judge went on to hit his second homer of the afternoon in the sixth inning off Texas' Yohander Mendez, running his season total to 41 and leaving him eight shy of McGwire's rookie record of 49 from 1987.

The 25-year-old came into Sunday's game slashing .274/.409/.568 while leading all American League hitters in home runs, runs scored, and walks.

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He also walked for the 107th time, breaking Les Fleming's rookie record set in 1942.

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srossi wrote: He also walked for the 107th time, breaking Les Fleming's rookie record set in 1942.


Some sources credit Ted Williams with 107 walks in his rookie season.

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lobo316 wrote: srossi wrote: He also walked for the 107th time, breaking Les Fleming's rookie record set in 1942.


Some sources credit Ted Williams with 107 walks in his rookie season.

Williams was 1 behind Fleming according to the stats flashed during FOX's broadcast. 

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srossi wrote: lobo316 wrote: srossi wrote: He also walked for the 107th time, breaking Les Fleming's rookie record set in 1942.


Some sources credit Ted Williams with 107 walks in his rookie season.

Williams was 1 behind Fleming according to the stats flashed during FOX's broadcast. 


You believe everything you see on Fox ?  ;)

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Did someone say #AllRise?

No. 44 for No. 99. pic.twitter.com/fYFVPXtflf

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Aaron Judge appears to have turned things around.

The New York Yankees outfielder, who entered Monday's game against the Minnesota Twins hitting .300/.500/.950 with four home runs over his last seven games, wasted no time getting on the board by blasting a solo home run off Ervin Santana in the first inning.

The 395-foot shot was Judge's 44th on the season.

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Aaron Judge is now firmly entrenched in New York Yankees royalty.
The rookie slugger continued his remarkable debut campaign Wednesday afternoon by smacking his 45th home run of 2017, a two-run shot off Minnesota'sBartolo Colon.
That #Statcast record has been overruled!@TheJudge44now has the most barrels in a season (78), passing Miguel Cabrera ('16) on this HR. pic.twitter.com/ooL0ut3DYC
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With the homer, Judge became only the seventh player in Yankees history to hit at least 45 home runs in a single season. The list of men he joined is indeed a who's who of pinstriped legends: Babe Ruth (nine times), Lou Gehrig (four), Mickey Mantle (twice), Alex Rodriguez (twice), Roger Maris, and Joe DiMaggio.
Judge also knocked in his 100th RBI of the season with the two-run shot, making him the eighth Yankee ever with 100 RBIs, 100 runs scored, and 100 walks in a single season. According to MLB.com, he's just the third rookie to reach those heights, joining Ted Williams in 1939 and Al Rosen in 1950.
Judge is four homers shy of tying Mark McGwire's major-league rookie home-run record that's stood since 1987. He already surpassed Williams' modern-era record for walks by a rookie earlier this summer.

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Don't look now but Judge is hitting again. His average in September is a very respectable .270 or so, the Ks are down a bit, the walks have always been sky high, he's hitting opposite field singles like he did in the first half, and of course there's the power.  It helps that Sanchez is hot too and protecting him in the lineup.

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Agreed. But. Do you think it has to do with facing weaker pitching a la Orioles, and is the increased production coming either in the first couple innings or when the Yanks are already ahead 5 to 7 runs (aka "Danny Tartabull HRs")...? What about down 2-1 in the 8th with a guy on base...?
I don't see Judge getting the Big Papi deadly clutch homers, especially off folks like Indians starters when cards are on the table. I hope I am proven wrong.

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pjstef wrote: Agreed. But. Do you think it has to do with facing weaker pitching a la Orioles, and is the increased production coming either in the first couple innings or when the Yanks are already ahead 5 to 7 runs (aka "Danny Tartabull HRs")...? What about down 2-1 in the 8th with a guy on base...?
I don't see Judge getting the Big Papi deadly clutch homers, especially off folks like Indians starters when cards are on the table. I hope I am proven wrong.

His Sep. numbers include games against presumed playoff teams Boston and Minnesota, so he's not just beating up on scrubs.  I'm not going to judge clutch hitting until the postseason.  This team has been incredibly un-clutch in October for years now and I'm hoping the new blood changes that this year.

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Superstar wrote: srossi wrote:I read in Sports Illustrated more than a year ago how Trout was considered a complete failure as the poster child of MLB. It's not happening no matter how much you want to believe it is. He's a good talent but isn't connecting with a national fanbase and can't get primo endorsements. 

Nobody cares about Trout because not even his home fanbase cares about him or their team.  Honestly, Albert Pujols has more credibility than Trout even today as far as face and name recognition goes.  If your home team does nothing to truly promote you, and your fanbase isn't paying to see you, you are screwed.  Add to it that SoCal doesn't really give a shit about baseball in general and 3/4 of the country isn't staying up past their bedtime to watch him play...means that Trout is basically not special.  I would argue that Kris Bryant is more of a face for baseball than Trout because there are Cubs fans nationwide and they all know who Bryant is (and they actually support him by buying his merch).

If Aaron Judge can just hit 25-30 HR per year and hit .275, he will PRINT money.  Because the Yankees fanbase has wanted somebody like him since Mo and Jeter retired.

When the Blue Jays played a series there in 2015. Their fans were chanting MVP every time Josh Donaldson came to bat.



 

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pjstef wrote: Agreed. But. Do you think it has to do with facing weaker pitching a la Orioles, and is the increased production coming either in the first couple innings or when the Yanks are already ahead 5 to 7 runs (aka "Danny Tartabull HRs")...? What about down 2-1 in the 8th with a guy on base...?
I don't see Judge getting the Big Papi deadly clutch homers, especially off folks like Indians starters when cards are on the table. I hope I am proven wrong.

Clutch comes with experience.  I'd like to think he'll develop that intangible as he gets older.
I do feel like many of his hits and HRs do tend to bury teams and or put them in a hole early.  He's on base a lot early, making pitchers work.

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pjstef wrote: Agreed. But. Do you think it has to do with facing weaker pitching a la Orioles, and is the increased production coming either in the first couple innings or when the Yanks are already ahead 5 to 7 runs (aka "Danny Tartabull HRs")...? What about down 2-1 in the 8th with a guy on base...?
I don't see Judge getting the Big Papi deadly clutch homers, especially off folks like Indians starters when cards are on the table. I hope I am proven wrong.

Not exactly a fair comparison.  Judge is basically a rookie that played last September.  Papi did not have a season like this until he was 28, arguably not until he was 29.  Papi played in Minnesota, which should have played his strengths well, but he didn't really explode until he played in Boston where he could wrap HRs around the Pesky pole.  It wasn't until Boston's World Series year that Papi actually had a year you could call better than Judge is having this season.  As of today, he leads the AL in HR, Runs scored, and Walks.  I don't know where he stands in the RBI race, but he's doing well.  The object of a hitters' game is to get on base and score runs, and to drive in runs.  Judge can't possibly be doing ALL this damage in non-clutch situations.  And it's not like the Yankees are a juggernaut here - the presence Judge provides has improved everyone around him.  He was doing major damage in May in the six hole before Gerardi put him in the three.
Papi was a special ball player, but at age 25, he hadn't even come close to what Judge has done.  Let's see if Judge can do what Papi did when he's 30, until then, it's not fair to him.

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For all his baseball-pummeling prowess, Aaron Judge still can't seem to stop striking out.

After a first-inning punchout Saturday against the Toronto Blue Jays, courtesy of starter Joe Biagini, Judge was sent back to the dugout on strike three for the 200th time this season, setting a new all-time worst mark among rookies.

Chicago Cubs infielder Kris Bryant previously held the record, when he struck out 199 times in the 2015 season. Judge, however, reached the mark in 43 fewer at-bats.

Judge also joins a rare group of five other players who have struck out 200 or more times in one season.

Despite his new record, Judge is still mashing baseballs at a historic pace. The towering Yankees slugger just needs another three home runs this season to match Mark McGwire's rookie record of 49, set in 1987.

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#AllRise, thumbs down for No. 46. pic.twitter.com/zoFP2h4jbg

— MLB (@MLB) September 22, 2017
Aaron Judge sentenced yet another baseball to life in the cheap seats Friday with his 46th home run of 2017.

He ripped the fourth pitch he saw from Toronto Blue Jays starter Marco Estrada deep to left field to give the New York Yankees an early 1-0 lead.

With the homer, Judge inched within striking distance of Mark McGwire's MLB rookie record of 49, set in 1987. Judge has eight more games after Thursday's contest in which to either tie or pass McGwire.

At 469 feet, the ball Judge belted Friday is the second-longest deep fly of his young career. Plenty more seem bound to follow.

At 469 feet, that was the second-longest homer of Aaron Judge's career, as tracked by @statcast. His longest was 495 feet. pic.twitter.com/TzoSB48lgD

— Bryan Hoch (@BryanHoch) September 22, 2017

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Trademark @TheJudge44 laser for homer No. 47. pic.twitter.com/4tGfnHxEeR

— MLB (@MLB) September 24, 2017
Aaron Judge's solo shot to lead off the sixth inning was a big factor in chasing Toronto Blue Jays starter Marcus Stroman out of the game, but the New York Yankees rookie wasn't finished there, hitting a two-run shot in his next at-bat in the seventh inning:

.@TheJudge44 is coming for the rookie homer record.

ONE AWAY. https://t.co/8s5ZUspATC pic.twitter.com/wQ5x8HhBkY

— MLB (@MLB) September 24, 2017
Judge's second of the game was also the 48th of the season, putting him within one of tying the rookie record set by Mark McGwire in 1987.

In the first half of the season, the 25-year-old outfielder blasted 30 home runs before celebrating his first All-Star festivities by winning the Home Run Derby on Giancarlo Stanton's turf. Interestingly, McGwire outpaced that by mashing 33 in the first half of his rookie campaign, but hit 16 the rest of the way.

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He did it !!!!!!!!!




Sorry, Big Mac: Court is in session.

Aaron Judge hit the 50th home run of his rookie campaign Monday in a two-dinger outing that allowed the New York Yankees outfielder to officially take the record from Mark McGwire.

Many have stepped to the plate. None have hit 50 homers as a rookie.

Until now. #AllRise pic.twitter.com/CnWnnPRBQY

— MLB (@MLB) September 25, 2017
Judge tied McGwire, who hit 49 back in 1987, with his fourth-inning blast off of Kansas City Royals starter Jake Junis. The 25-year-old followed that up in the seventh with the record-setting bomb off of Trevor Cahill. It's the seventh multi-homer game of Judge's historic 2017 season.

Winning American League Rookie of the Year is a foregone conclusion, but 13 home runs in September may help Judge to an AL MVP victory as well.

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Hat is off to him. Slumped but then came out the slump. The real deal.

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The Yankees are so far ahead of schedule with the production of Judge and Sanchez this season, and now Bird is having the first healthy month of his injury-plagued short career and is killing it too.  Those 3 could be the backbone of an offense that dominates for the next decade. 

People want to nitpick their every short-coming, but none of these guys were supposed to be this good for another year or two.  Of course Judge needs to cut down on the Ks and Sanchez needs to solve his passed ball problem and Bird needs to stay healthy, but Jesus Christ, this is a pretty damn good start considering they all have less than 2 full seasons  in the big leagues.  Coming off of last season, I never imagined we'd be in the postseason this year.  I was hoping for a last place finish and a top draft pick to continue the rebuilding. 

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You should live in Philly.  Carson Wentz has the thrill of being 2-1 including 2-0 against division opponents and the agony of hearing that he sucks on our wonderful sports talk radio.  

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Chiefs are 3-0 and we all think Alex Smith stinks and Mahomes should be QB

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Ultimark wrote: You should live in Philly.  Carson Wentz has the thrill of being 2-1 including 2-0 against division opponents and the agony of hearing that he sucks on our wonderful sports talk radio.  
You listen to WIP or 97.5 ?



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