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 Posted: Tue May 9th, 2017 09:31 pm
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With as over as the Von Erichs were in Israel, this kind of makes sense.



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 Posted: Tue May 9th, 2017 10:56 pm
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srossi wrote: This would be big news if literally any of the other von Erich brothers were the ones coming back.
The other Von Erichs all have more credibility than Kevin in 2017.
I will believe this when it happens.
At best, Kevin will stand on the apron, in jeans and flip flops, and slap on a token Iron Claw. 

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 Posted: Tue May 9th, 2017 11:11 pm
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tamalie wrote: Kevin Von Erich had nothing in the tank by 1991. He had nothing left by 1987 to be honest. His physique declined and, by his own admission, the guy seemed very disinterested in the ring. The WWF letting him have a tryout in late 1991 was one of those "might as well try it" kind of deals and had Kevin shown any fire, a team with him and Kerry might have been worth a shot since the latter's singles push was done by that stage. However, Kevin just didn't have it anymore by then.
I think you've read too far into this.  I don't think Kevin Von Erich asked for a tryout, I think he simply happened to be there and they asked him if he wanted a match.  I think that the WWF would have brought him in back then very quickly if he wanted to be there and they would have figured out a good spot for him.



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Superstar wrote: tamalie wrote: Kevin Von Erich had nothing in the tank by 1991. He had nothing left by 1987 to be honest. His physique declined and, by his own admission, the guy seemed very disinterested in the ring. The WWF letting him have a tryout in late 1991 was one of those "might as well try it" kind of deals and had Kevin shown any fire, a team with him and Kerry might have been worth a shot since the latter's singles push was done by that stage. However, Kevin just didn't have it anymore by then.
I think you've read too far into this.  I don't think Kevin Von Erich asked for a tryout, I think he simply happened to be there and they asked him if he wanted a match.  I think that the WWF would have brought him in back then very quickly if he wanted to be there and they would have figured out a good spot for him.

Was he advertised locally as appearing? If not, that was an unfortunate miscue on WWF's part. That could've moved a few extra tickets.



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I'm not sure of what was or wasn't in the local ads for that 1991 Corpus Christi taping, but Kevin wasn't drawing in any significant way for any of the local shows he worked in Texas in the late 1980s and into the 1990s. Kerry wasn't drawing much in that timeframe before he went to the WWF and his drawing power in the WWF was pretty much extinguished by the early spring of 1991 once his initial push ended. I don't think putting Kevin Von Erich in an ad or not doing so in 1991 would have made much difference in the ticket department. Hogan, Savage, Flair, Undertaker, Jake, the WWF brand, and the fact it was a TV taping was a bigger deal by then. As far as why Kevin wrestled is concerned, perhaps he was there and they asked him if he wanted a match. However, my take is that if he didn't ask for a tryout, he was invited to tryout either by the honchos with a prompt from Kerry or by the honchos independently of Kerry. Giving guys matches because they happened to be around, unless it was a house show that was a man short, doesn't feel like a pre 1993 move from the WWF. It feels more like something from 1993-97 when they were throwing stuff at the wall to see what stuck and were more open to working with outsiders.

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Wrestling the same old same old in Texas probably wasn't going to draw much for Kevin or Kerry in a solo effort at that time but together in the WWF against some fresh faces it might have been a different story. I think by that point they needed to be a team to be a draw as neither were what they had been.



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tamalie wrote: Giving guys matches because they happened to be around, unless it was a house show that was a man short, doesn't feel like a pre 1993 move from the WWF. It feels more like something from 1993-97 when they were throwing stuff at the wall to see what stuck and were more open to working with outsiders.I totally get what you are saying and I fully understand your point - but when you look at some of the names that WWF brought in around '87-'90 I just don't think a guy like Kevin Von Erich would need a tryout match.  They didn't really do tryout matches in that era because if you had a name you had a spot.  They brought in Ron Garvin, Ron Bass, Rotundo, Tony Atlas, Sam Houston, Terry Taylor, and really none were any more accomplished than Kevin.  Add to it that they lost Tully and Arn and getting Kevin to not only team with Kerry but also babysit him so that he gets to his matches on time and in one piece would have been well worth whatever money they paid him.  Kerry came in with a push, got the IC belt, and within a year was a curtain jerker.  Give him Kevin and they probably get a good run in the tag division with possibly a real run with the belts.  Kevin may have been able to keep him out of trouble too, and maybe Kerry doesn't end up dead if it happened.  Who knows?



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Kevin's MSG match was IIRC January 1980 against Johnny Rodz. Awkward match from my memory of watching it. Given the two participants were not cookie cutter in their approach to matches that doesn't surprise me if upon rewatch it's true(Memory plays tricks sometimes of course).



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khawk wrote: Kevin's MSG match was IIRC January 1980 against Johnny Rodz. Awkward match from my memory of watching it. Given the two participants were not cookie cutter in their approach to matches that doesn't surprise me if upon rewatch it's true(Memory plays tricks sometimes of course).
It looked like Kevin was a little stiff and awkward and Johnny didn't like it.  Johnny on more than one occasion in the match either didn't sell or deadweighted him.  And you could tell by the look on his face that he was pissed off at Kevin.  Mind you, in 1980, Kevin was awkward and stiff - hell, he was stiff his whole career.



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TXM wrote: srossi wrote: This would be big news if literally any of the other von Erich brothers were the ones coming back.
The other Von Erichs all have more credibility than Kevin in 2017.
I will believe this when it happens.
At best, Kevin will stand on the apron, in jeans and flip flops, and slap on a token Iron Claw. 
Uh, did you get the sarcasm with Rossi's post?

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khawk wrote: Kevin's MSG match was IIRC January 1980 against Johnny Rodz. Awkward match from my memory of watching it. Given the two participants were not cookie cutter in their approach to matches that doesn't surprise me if upon rewatch it's true(Memory plays tricks sometimes of course).

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Accompanying Von Erich will be his two sons, wrestlers Marshall and Ross Von Erich, as well as WWF and WWE veterans such as Tatanka, half of the tag team The Rockers Marty Janetty (who used to perform with partner Shawn Michaels), and Matt Sydal (better known as Evan Bourne to WWE aficionados). Other international wrestlers scheduled to appear in the event are the German wrestler Bad Bones, David Starr, Jurn Simmons and others.

The event will take place on July 9 at the Shlomo Group Arena in Tel Aviv. Ticket prices for the show will range from NIS 199 to NIS 549 for a vip pass, which will include a meeting with Kevin Von Erich.



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