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 Posted: Thu May 18th, 2017 10:11 pm
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Over the past year, some states have brought forward legislation that would make it illegal for a potential employer to ask about an prospective employee's past salary history.


Should it be unlawful to ask such?

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 Posted: Thu May 18th, 2017 11:28 pm
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I think that it should be unlawful to ask your current salary and for your ex-employer to provide your old salary info as part of a background check. The only salary question that should be answered is what you expect your salary to be.

Employees often agree to a lower salary as a trade-off for having little job experience or for perks like flexible work schedules, ability to work remote, job security, etc. That low salary shouldn't follow you from job to job when the work environment and expectations of the job change from employer to employer.

I recently filled out an online application for a position and it required that you give your salary information for any jobs that you had over the past 10 years. If you didn't provide the information, you couldn't submit the application. If you lied on any question on the application, it could result in termination if you did get the job. So basically, I was forced to disclose my salary info whether I wanted to or not.

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 Posted: Fri May 19th, 2017 12:08 am
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I lie anyway. Tell them I made a shitload of money and had profit sharing, too.

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 Posted: Fri May 19th, 2017 01:41 pm
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I think t's bad when it's a requirement.
 
More often than not, it is used to screw someone out of what they deserve or should be making. The employer doesn't give you the salary history of everyone that has held that job the past ten years, do they?
 
Also, it works the other way. Lets say that the past two years you have made $100k a year. But now you don't need all that or don't want to travel or whatever. And you go looking for a $50k a year job. Well when you put on there that you've been making $100k a year the past two years, that will disqualify you also.

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I'm not sure how it works in other cities, but there's a relative collusionary effect that occurs with Nursing in KC. It's pretty much a given that across the city, hospitals pay nursing staff almost the same (usually within a dollar/hr). I"ve seen this happen in interviews before that I've sat in. The Managers have a grid, and based on your years of experience and your areas worked, it's X amount of $$$/hr. So your leverage comes down more to negotiating a certain amount of PTO. Working agency will get your more $$/hr, but the trade off is you might end up with gaps of no work for a while.

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Being on the other side of this, I can say that I mostly asked to make sure I was being competitive. If I wanted someone I did not want to make an offer they would dismiss out of hand or, worse yet, cause them to accept another offer. On the form, I had the salary history section blacked out. I only asked if we were interested in making an offer.

Some would refuse to answer and that was OK with me. We made a best guess offer. Sometimes it worked. Sometimes it didn't.

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 Posted: Sat May 20th, 2017 03:53 pm
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Principal_Raditch wrote: I'm not sure how it works in other cities, but there's a relative collusionary effect that occurs with Nursing in KC. It's pretty much a given that across the city, hospitals pay nursing staff almost the same (usually within a dollar/hr). I"ve seen this happen in interviews before that I've sat in. The Managers have a grid, and based on your years of experience and your areas worked, it's X amount of $$$/hr. So your leverage comes down more to negotiating a certain amount of PTO. Working agency will get your more $$/hr, but the trade off is you might end up with gaps of no work for a while.
Same thing for hospitals in the Baltimore, MD area. The fancy term that they use for it is "market analysis".

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 Posted: Sat May 20th, 2017 04:32 pm
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Principal_Raditch wrote: I'm not sure how it works in other cities, but there's a relative collusionary effect that occurs with Nursing in KC. It's pretty much a given that across the city, hospitals pay nursing staff almost the same (usually within a dollar/hr). I"ve seen this happen in interviews before that I've sat in. The Managers have a grid, and based on your years of experience and your areas worked, it's X amount of $$$/hr. So your leverage comes down more to negotiating a certain amount of PTO. Working agency will get your more $$/hr, but the trade off is you might end up with gaps of no work for a while.
Nurses are not unionized there?




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 Posted: Sat May 20th, 2017 04:36 pm
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I've never worked at a place that didn't do market analysis. Businesses are in business to make money and if they can be competitive and not over pay why wouldn't they?



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 Posted: Sun May 21st, 2017 11:24 pm
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Ultimark wrote: Being on the other side of this, I can say that I mostly asked to make sure I was being competitive. If I wanted someone I did not want to make an offer they would dismiss out of hand or, worse yet, cause them to accept another offer. On the form, I had the salary history section blacked out. I only asked if we were interested in making an offer.

Some would refuse to answer and that was OK with me. We made a best guess offer. Sometimes it worked. Sometimes it didn't.

this having been on this side.

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