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Another GHWB accusation.  Mark Halperin (whoever he is) with MSNBC and Val Kilmer.  Gotta say I am surprised Kilmer is so late to the party. 
Every single day we are going to hear more now.  Some of it will be true and some will be complete bullshit.  Sadly, we will never really know which is which. 

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The Kilmer thing is total bullshit, she's just bandwagon jumping to try and get her name back out there. It's not even sexual assault she's claiming, she says he hit her on the set of "The Doors" movie and that she settled with him but is now courageously breaking the non-disclosure. When you read up on it, everyone on the set said it was bullshit, said it was part of the scene, she settled for $25k then I read where she griped she only got $8k out of that lol..

If I'm Kilmer I'm going after her now..

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We will see a ton like this now.  Open season.  Christ - a guy in a wheelchair can't even make a joke anymore.  
I have to say I was always very careful as a business owner.   I never had a woman that I traveled with.  My liability was always in the back of my mind.  We had a very, very good looking admin/office manager and I made sure to never spend time alone with her.  I liked her as a person but, even then, I knew I could be subject to bullshit if I gave it half a chance 

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Twiggy Ramirez fired by Marilyn Manson due to his ex coming out and claiming assault.

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Married Jo wrote: The Kilmer thing is total bullshit, she's just bandwagon jumping to try and get her name back out there. It's not even sexual assault she's claiming, she says he hit her on the set of "The Doors" movie and that she settled with him but is now courageously breaking the non-disclosure. When you read up on it, everyone on the set said it was bullshit, said it was part of the scene, she settled for $25k then I read where she griped she only got $8k out of that lol..

If I'm Kilmer I'm going after her now..

My thoughts exactly.  This is the full story:

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/actress-accuses-val-kilmer-physically-013645508.html

There is a witness who seems pretty adamant that this was part of a movie scene that she was warned would get physical and that she over-reacted.  The whining about taxes eating up most of her settlement is just the icing on the cake.  I thought liberals loved taxes anyway?

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Makes me feel bad for the ones that really were subjected to sexual assault or abuse since their stories won't have the impact they want them to with so many of these that are and will happen. As noted who can tell which is real anymore?

Public disclosure almost seems to be becoming an anti-awareness thing now, due to not knowing what's valid and what isn't...It's Easier to ignore things than take time to sort them out in your head.

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khawk wrote: Public disclosure almost seems to be becoming an anti-awareness thing now, due to not knowing what's valid and what isn't...It's Easier to ignore things than take time to sort them out in your head.
Much like political scandals these days, the sexual assault stories are becoming so oversaturated with so many of varying degrees of seriousness that people are just tuning out.  I said it before and I'll say it again, if Watergate happened today, it would be harped on on social media ad nauseum for a week and then completely forgotten about if Nixon mispronounced a word or didn't shake hands the right away.  There would be no forced resignation or serious impeachment threat, because we don't know how to differentiate important things from nonsense anymore and scream impeachment every day and it all rolls into one big shit-pile.

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Nixon was born 40 years too early. I totally agree with the point. A lot of this strikes me as a "me too" bullshit thing.

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Jeremy Piven and the guy who runs NPR. The guess the good news is that there will be lots of job openings.

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Ultimark wrote: Jeremy Piven and the guy who runs NPR. The guess the good news is that there will be lots of job openings.
I would’ve boycotted any future Jeremy Piven movie if he hadn’t been accused of sexual harassment. 

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Today it is Dustin Hoffman. I don't even read the articles anymore.

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Ventured and read the article on Hoffman. It was from 1985 and, incredibly, he applied the Kevin Spacey defense without the drunk part.

Who the fuck is his publicist? Deny it. It was in 85!

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This article is a week old but if true, it's the worst of them all. The worst part is it wouldn't surprise anyone. Dan Schneider at Nickelodeon.

https://www.redstate.com/kiradavis/2017/10/24/next-big-hollywood-sex-scandal-already-breaking...at-nickelodeon/

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KGB wrote: This article is a week old but if true, it's the worst of them all. The worst part is it wouldn't surprise anyone. Dan Schneider at Nickelodeon.

https://www.redstate.com/kiradavis/2017/10/24/next-big-hollywood-sex-scandal-already-breaking...at-nickelodeon/

If people can tear themselves away from fake knee-touching scandals long enough to pay attention to this guy, we might finally have someone go to jail.  This seems by far the worst story of the bunch.

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Fake knee touching scandals. Especially when it was innocent and the actress has already called bullshit on it.

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Today's accusation is that Charlie Sheen, 19 at the time, sodomized Corey Haim, then 13 years old, on the set of the 1986 movie Lucas
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5062721/Charlie-Sheen-sodomized-Corey-Haim-13-set-Lucas.html

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Whoa!

Also, Kevin Spacey has a new accuser.

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this thread should be stickied

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lobo316 wrote: this thread should be stickiedAgree - probably a few thousand more coming.   
That Charlie Sheen thing is scary because I actually find it to be believable. 

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They've been trying to pin something on Schneider for years. Wouldn't surprise me in the very least if someone FINALLY does something that will result in actual charges. Guy is supposedly quite the scumbag.

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For years Corey Feldman has been saying Haim was sexually assaulted while filming that movie. he never said who did it. just said a older actor in the movie did it. these days the names come out.

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Spatulapup wrote: For years Corey Feldman has been saying Haim was sexually assaulted while filming that movie. he never said who did it. just said a older actor in the movie did it. these days the names come out.
This is where it gets tough because it's totally believable that Sheen did this to me, but I have to pause on mind-convicting it within myself until I hear or see more evidence. Just because. Having said that, this is completely plausible to me. The only leap of faith one has to really make is that Charlie Sheen was a scumbag even as a very young man and that it didn't just develop in him as he got older.

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Ultimark wrote: lobo316 wrote: this thread should be stickiedAgree - probably a few thousand more coming.   

The choice of words here. I'd lol more if our site membership was a lot larger than it is... :tongue:

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khawk wrote: Spatulapup wrote: For years Corey Feldman has been saying Haim was sexually assaulted while filming that movie. he never said who did it. just said a older actor in the movie did it. these days the names come out.
This is where it gets tough because it's totally believable that Sheen did this to me, 


Speaking of choice of words.

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bahahaha

That Charlie...he gets around...

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News about to break on Louie CK

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Roy Moore accused by a woman of sexual harassment when she was 14. Gotta be honest - I always suspect those who pretend to be more devout than anyone else. They are usually boy fuckers though.

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Ultimark wrote: News about to break on Louie CK
I've been hearing the rumors about Louie CK for years too.

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Breaking as in any second. The Times has a story that is about to go live.

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Again, who knows the truth? We don't know anything about this one. Interesting that Charlie Sheen has been so quiet. Not normally known for being reserved.

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Ultimark wrote: Breaking as in any second. The Times has a story that is about to go live.
Louie CK had a movie premiere tonight that was just cancelled about 5 hours before it was to begin.  This NY Times story must be a doozy.

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Time for us to get into show business. Lots of openings now.

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Louie CK now has cancelled his appearance on the "Late Late Show" tomorrow night to promote the movie. William H. Macy has already been named as the new guest. This movie "I Still Love You, Daddy" is toast.

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I will say this about Trump, he clearly never really sexually assaulted anyone.  If he had, it would've come out by now with tons of details and lots of accusors.  In a lot of ways this makes his "locker room talk" even more pathetic.  He was lying to impress Billy Bush. 

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srossi wrote: I will say this about Trump, he clearly never really sexually assaulted anyone.  If he had, it would've come out by now with tons of details and lots of accusors.  In a lot of ways this makes his "locker room talk" even more pathetic.  He was lying to impress Billy Bush. 
That's what I've been saying for a while now, people keep saying "yeah, well Trump did it too and he'll get his!"...if they really think people have evidence to take him down over this and are just waiting for the right time they're insane..

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15 women came forward on Trump. the stories are all online for all to see. he is a scumbag In so many ways. not just in how he has treated women.

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Married Jo wrote: srossi wrote: I will say this about Trump, he clearly never really sexually assaulted anyone.  If he had, it would've come out by now with tons of details and lots of accusors.  In a lot of ways this makes his "locker room talk" even more pathetic.  He was lying to impress Billy Bush. 
That's what I've been saying for a while now, people keep saying "yeah, well Trump did it too and he'll get his!"...if they really think people have evidence to take him down over this and are just waiting for the right time they're insane..
Well, there is so much more to worry about in regards to Trump.  The sex crap would be about 15th on my list.  Women did come forward but they weren't believed I guess.  The real news story was that Trump admitted that the woman turned him down.  We all know who that was now.  

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From twitter
Antifa supersoldiers living for decades as Alabama teen girls carry out plot to take down MAGA hero Moore

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Story on Louis CK has broken. Couldn't post link. NYT

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Seems as though Louis CK is a real jerk off.

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OK so the Louie CK story is that 5 women have come forward to say that he masturbated in front of them.  So nothing new really.  These rumors have been out there for years, they just were unsubstantiated by women willing to put their names to the accusations until now.  It's creepy and I'll never understand the mindset of someone who does that, but it is less explosive than the Spacey, Sheen, etc. stories.

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Ultimark wrote: Story on Louis CK has broken. Couldn't post link. NYT


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/09/arts/television/louis-ck-sexual-misconduct.html

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Yeah pretty embarrassing stories. I started having a problem with the guy when he joked about child molesting in his SNL monologue a few years ago. some things I don't think you should joke about.

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srossi wrote: OK so the Louie CK story is that 5 women have come forward to say that he masturbated in front of them.  I don't understand what the big deal is. I used to do this on the subway regularly.

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WongLee wrote:  I used to do this on the subway regularly.

"Used to"? 
Why'd you stop? 

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Louis CK says the stories about him are true. I guess the first step to get back is to admit it. I do think some have been accused unjustly. Just not him I guess although on the scale what he did is not even close to the worst.

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khawk wrote: WongLee wrote:  I used to do this on the subway regularly.

"Used to"? 
Why'd you stop? 

Because it started getting cold in NYC last week.

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Louis CK's full statement:

I want to address the stories told to the New York Times by five women named Abby, Rebecca, Dana, Julia who felt able to name themselves and one who did not.

These stories are true. At the time, I said to myself that what I did was okay because I never showed a woman my dick without asking first, which is also true. But what I learned later in life, too late, is that when you have power over another person, asking them to look at your dick isn’t a question. It’s a predicament for them. The power I had over these women is that they admired me. And I wielded that power irresponsibly.

I have been remorseful of my actions. And I've tried to learn from them. And run from them. Now I’m aware of the extent of the impact of my actions. I learned yesterday the extent to which I left these women who admired me feeling badly about themselves and cautious around other men who would never have put them in that position.

I also took advantage of the fact that I was widely admired in my and their community, which disabled them from sharing their story and brought hardship to them when they tried because people who look up to me didn't want to hear it. I didn't think that I was doing any of that because my position allowed me not to think about it.

There is nothing about this that I forgive myself for. And I have to reconcile it with who I am. Which is nothing compared to the task I left them with.

I wish I had reacted to their admiration of me by being a good example to them as a man and given them some guidance as a comedian, including because I admired their work.

The hardest regret to live with is what you've done to hurt someone else. And I can hardly wrap my head around the scope of hurt I brought on them. I’d be remiss to exclude the hurt that I’ve brought on people who I work with and have worked with who’s professional and personal lives have been impacted by all of this, including projects currently in production: the cast and crew of Better Things, Baskets, The Cops, One Mississippi, and I Love You, Daddy. I deeply regret that this has brought negative attention to my manager Dave Becky who only tried to mediate a situation that I caused. I’ve brought anguish and hardship to the people at FX who have given me so much The Orchard who took a chance on my movie and every other entity that has bet on me through the years.

I’ve brought pain to my family, my friends, my children and their mother.

I have spent my long and lucky career talking and saying anything I want. I will now step back and take a long time to listen.

Thank you for reading.

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So the State Auditor of Alabama says it's ok for Moore to have molested the 14 year old because Joseph did it to Mary who was a teenager at the time.

Except according to Christian tradition, Joseph didn't do it to Mary, the Holy Spirit did.

Also according to Christian tradition, the Holy Spirit, God and Jesus are all one and the same. Sort of like the Freebirds if they were one person (Michael Jack Gordy?)

Ergo, Jesus was a pedophile.

So elect Roy Moore because Jesus!

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srossi wrote: khawk wrote: WongLee wrote:  I used to do this on the subway regularly.

"Used to"? 
Why'd you stop? 

Because it started getting cold in NYC last week.


Speaking from experience, Rossi ?

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Anthony Edwards now but with a twist. He was the victim.

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As we know from numerous Catholic priests it isn't just males versus females. Saw a few other stories of males in Hollywood being harassed by the males. Not just the Sheen story which he has denied.

His ex though (and she clearly has an axe to grind) claims Sheen watched gay porn involving teenage boys.

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I find it odd Louis CK is described as a comedian. I've seen funnier cancers.

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George Takei assaulting a male model at a club in the early 80's which should surprise no one.

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I know Rossi is worried that his boy could be unjustly accused of sexual misconduct. I get the concern. However, he also needs to worry about predators as well. Plenty of them out there as we are seeing that prey on boys. Those Motherfuckers need to die.

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There are 2,000 comments from the alt-left on Takai’s Facebook trying to explain why Takei is innocent until proven guilty but everyone else is guilty until proven innocent. I’ll admit, I’m enjoying this one. His followers are every bit the extremists that Roy Moore’s are.

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Yea, this type of thing crosses over all boundaries. Fox became very interested when the Weinstein shit hit.

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It is absolutely not surprising that Takei is accused of this. He even hinted on Stern that there was something out there.

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Hope Solo says the ex-President of FIFA Sepp Blatter sexually assaulted her.

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That chick has had a lot of issues. Not saying she is lying, just saying she is no angel herself.

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MadFrogVachon wrote: So the State Auditor of Alabama says it's ok for Moore to have molested the 14 year old because Joseph did it to Mary who was a teenager at the time.

Except according to Christian tradition, Joseph didn't do it to Mary, the Holy Spirit did.

Also according to Christian tradition, the Holy Spirit, God and Jesus are all one and the same. Sort of like the Freebirds if they were one person (Michael Jack Gordy?)

Ergo, Jesus was a pedophile.

So elect Roy Moore because Jesus!
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I gotta admit, I was damn surprised to learn that Hollywood was littered with little kid fucking deviants. I never would have guessed this was going on.

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You should have followed up with that exact same post but with Alabama instead of Hollywood ;)

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The least shocking accusation ever: Steven Seagal. Accused of telling an actress that if she had agreed to sit on his face she would’ve gotten a bigger part in his movie.

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Rolling Stone founder Jann Wenner has now been accused of forcing himself on a male writer.

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Couple of thoughts/questions.

Why didn't this avalanche occur when the Cosby stuff was happening? Was there a fundamental difference?

Clearly there is a lot of shitty stuff happening. The rape and forcing one's self on others is reprehensible. However, a lot of stuff getting mixed in with this is not "assault". Getting invited for dinner isn't assault. Asking a girl to a hotel room isn't assault. Behind closed doors, asking Jenny McCarthy to show you her tits isn't assault. She can say no and excuse herself to leave. When it goes beyond that, it's assault, obviously. This is just the latch-on Ice Bucket Challenge Americana who operates on a low intelligence level.

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a woman has come out against Richard Dreyfuss. she claims be pulled it out. He says he was a pretty bad guy when he was a big star. he would make moves on single women, married women, his buddies wives and so on. but he denies what this women says.

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srossi wrote: Hope Solo says the ex-President of FIFA Sepp Blatter sexually assaulted her.
No doubt in my mind he grabbed her ass in an unwanted way.  What’s not so clear is if he did it the day before or the day after she gargled his ball juice.

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I legit feel badly for Breanna Stewart, or whatever her name is. 10 years old, big and gangly girl that doesn’t fit in, she shouldn’t be getting fingered by some smelly old fat dude every single time she’s at her cousins house. Not sure if he was dicking her, but he definitely went knuckles deep in her.

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kargol wrote: I find it odd Louis CK is described as a comedian. I've seen funnier cancers.
he's on the right track pulling a "Letterman" so to speak with this. 
And I think you will see many many more of the accused go this route soon. Denial doesn't work anyways since your presumed guilty, so just say "yeah I did that" and be done with it. The media will move on to the next one a lot quicker.(The above would be for "smaller" accusations, like CK's was, in the grand scheme of things).
Also I find it hard to believe Hope Solo wouldn't have killed Blatter outright as soon as that corrupt asshole tried to do something with her. She's apparently legit nuts.

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The other thing about Moore is he said he did not date these girls without their parents' permission.

I think a good general rule of thumb is if you're in your 30s and you want to date a girl that requires parental permission, you're probably not in a good place

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playing devil's advocate, I have known a couple of girls who reported false sexual harassment just because they didn't like the guys and wanted them to get fired. I know these are the exceptions as opposed to the norm but still ...

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MadFrogVachon wrote: The other thing about Moore is he said he did not date these girls without their parents' permission.

I think a good general rule of thumb is if you're in your 30s and you want to date a girl that requires parental permission, you're probably not in a good place

Moore's comments on this have been so ridiculously bad, I can't believe he's survived in politics all these years.  I guess when you're only known in Alabama you just have to sporadically scream "Jesus" and the rednecks don't care about anything else, but on the national stage articulation sometimes helps.  When tossed a softball question by Hannity to get his side of the story out (and there obviously wasn't going to be a tougher follow-up question), you got this ridiculous exchange:

HANNITY: At that time in your life—you do remember these girls—let me ask you this. Would it be unusual for you as a 32-year-old guy to have dated a woman as young as 17, that would be what a 15 year difference? Or 18? Do you remember dating girls that young at that time?”
MOORE: “Not generally, no. And if I did I’m not going to dispute anything or anything like that.”
HANNITY: “But you don’t specifically remember having any girlfriend that was in her teens even at that time?”
MOORE: “No, I don’t remember that and I don’t remember dating any girl without the permission of her mother. And I think in her statement, she said her mother actually encouraged her to go out with me.”

So that's a yes to all the allegations.  Ask me if I ever dated a 14-year old and my answer is "Absolutely not, never, period."  Hell, I never even dated a 14-year old when I was 14.  The answer to any scandal is never to say "Generally, no."  "Generally, no" is "Occasionally, yes."  And then 5 seconds later he basically admits to it. 

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Final note about the parents of these girls. Moore claimed at least one mother actively encouraged her teen daughter to date him; parents can be funny people sometimes.

I own and operate an adult website and while all of my models are at least 18, I have gotten emails from 2 of my model's mothers. One wasn't happy about her daughter (modeling name Mystic Mayhem) posing for me but realized it was MM's choice. She did ask, however, if I could assist in having some of Mystic Mayhem's pictures removed from another model's Facebook page (modeling name Red). The two girls don't like each other and Red was giving MM the Mean Girls treatment by posting the pictures and encouraging others to give her a hard time. I almost never talk to Mystic Mayhem anymore but both her mother and sister have practically adopted me as a member of the family.

The other mother I got an email from was very encouraging of her daughter posing hoping it would build her confidence a bit (which is has). And again, this mom has become a pretty good friend of mine.

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MadFrogVachon wrote: I own and operate an adult website
That explains why you fit in so well here.  We'll all be expecting PMs with the URL and free passwords by close of business today if you expect to continue posting here though. 

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URL I can do - free passwords I can't since the folks who host my site don't allow them. Im always happy to give out free samples however

I wanted toi point out that despite the tone of my posts, I am in no way, shape, or form defending Moore. The guy deserves to be crucified by his testicles

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MadFrogVachon wrote: URL I can do - free passwords I can't since the folks who host my site don't allow them. Im always happy to give out free samples however

I wanted toi point out that despite the tone of my posts, I am in no way, shape, or form defending Moore. The guy deserves to be crucified by his testicles



Could you post the URL in the rubber room so we can check out the site ?
99.9 % of us here like porn.

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MadFrogVachon wrote: Final note about the parents of these girls. Moore claimed at least one mother actively encouraged her teen daughter to date him; parents can be funny people sometimes.

I own and operate an adult website and while all of my models are at least 18, I have gotten emails from 2 of my model's mothers. One wasn't happy about her daughter (modeling name Mystic Mayhem) posing for me but realized it was MM's choice. She did ask, however, if I could assist in having some of Mystic Mayhem's pictures removed from another model's Facebook page (modeling name Red). The two girls don't like each other and Red was giving MM the Mean Girls treatment by posting the pictures and encouraging others to give her a hard time. I almost never talk to Mystic Mayhem anymore but both her mother and sister have practically adopted me as a member of the family.

The other mother I got an email from was very encouraging of her daughter posing hoping it would build her confidence a bit (which is has). And again, this mom has become a pretty good friend of mine.

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As opposed to a real piece of shoot?
 
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lobo316 wrote: 99.9 % of us here like porn.
Not generally, no. And if I did I’m not going to dispute anything or anything like that.

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99.9 % of us here like porn.

thumbs up to this sentiment. :)

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Who doesn't? Bu mine centers around bondage

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Roy Moore is now saying he will sue the Washington Post for investigating this. Considering he would have to go under oath and admit to all sorts of things in a court of law or open himself up to perjury charges, I'd have to say this is not the best idea. At this point, he should just go with the Rob Feinstein Defense and tweet "lol i'll pretend u said 18".

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and it looks like Mitch McConnell has switched gears and says he believes the women rather than spouting out the "If it's true ..." line.

Translation: There's still time to do a write in campaign for Luther Strange if Moore will just drop out

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Jesse Lacey, the lead singer of a band called Brand New that I’ve never heard of before, has admitted to sexual allegations against underage fans, including asking a 15-year old to send him nude pics and watch him masturbate on Skype. As a result Brand New’s upcoming UK tour has been postponed.

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MadFrogVachon wrote: . Im always happy to give out free samples however

Whhhaaatttt?:tongue:

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Anyone besides me shocked that no one has accused Vinny Mac yet?

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bpickering wrote: Anyone besides me shocked that no one has accused Vinny Mac yet?

Rita Chatterton did years ago. Maybe Jessika Carr will be next.

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That is coming. All the pols in DC are now shitting their pants - both sides and a female thrown in to the mix would not surprise me.

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bpickering wrote: Anyone besides me shocked that no one has accused Vinny Mac yet?

Mean Gene always seemed like a slimy toad to the women even back in the 1990s. Gene and Fifi working the BattleBrawl tombola is probably banned from YouTube now.

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Got up this morning and was thinking a la Goldberg "Who's Next?"

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This is all bullshit. If a guy stuck his hands down a chick's pants, or forced his dick on them, that's one thing. What Cosby did, yes, that's totally wrong. But to hear these women talk about getting their asses grabbed ten years ago, or getting asked for sex is not sexual harrassment. Maybe it is if it happened now, and maybe it was then, but if you didn't say anything when it happened just shut the fuck up already. To me, it's more about getting attention now than anything. If Louis CK jerked off in front of somebody last weekend, they have every right to call him out. But going back 10-12 years?? It comes off as straight up jealousy of his success and a way that they can just cut him down.

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Anyone else surprised Justin Timberlake hasn't been accused by someone? After all he did commit sexual assult on Janet Jackson live on national TV a while back...

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wittman2 wrote: Anyone else surprised Justin Timberlake hasn't been accused by someone? After all he did commit sexual assult on Janet Jackson live on national TV a while back...
It'll get to that...once someone clues in that they were emotionally damaged from seeing Janet's tit, people will sue at the very least...

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wittman2 wrote: Anyone else surprised Justin Timberlake hasn't been accused by someone? After all he did commit sexual assult on Janet Jackson live on national TV a while back...
Oh, it's coming.  Not because of Janet Jackson but every single band that has thousands of teenage fans, from the Stones and Beatles to the Backstreet Boys and *NSYNC, all fucked hundreds if not thousands of them.  The fact that more stories haven't come out over the past 60 years (and a handful have) is pretty shocking.  This could be the time.  I posted about that Brand New band and I don't even know them.  Imagine how much teen pussy popular bands have gotten?  My mother told me about a time when she was waiting outside The Beatles hotel with about 1,000 screaming teenage girls and a guy popped out of the building and brought about 50 of the cutest ones inside.  I'm sure that was just an impromptu meet and greet and autograph session.  I can't wait until some AARP chick does a press conference with tears running down her face about how McCartney or Jagger scarred her for life and she just has to speak out now.   

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Bad accusation against Tom Sizemore. and accusations against John Travolta have started up again.

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Spatulapup wrote: and accusations against John Travolta have started up again.

Isn't this the same exact charge against the same exact masseur as we've already heard several times over the years?  He's gone on record before. Is he upset that his timing was off and figured he'd try once again?

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back in the day about 5 guys came forward about Travolta and yes I think this was one of them. maybe the media and public will take it seriously this time. cosby accusations were around in a quieter way at one time until that stand up comedian blew it up. now that  its the norm to come out about this maybe it will stick this time. There is a video on youtube with kevin Nash talking about his experience being on set with Travolta. its interesting. I believe some of the stories are true with Travolta.

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Spatulapup wrote: There is a video on youtube with kevin Nash talking about his experience being on set with Travolta. its interesting. I believe some of the stories are true with Travolta.


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I wonder if the Palmer Cannon-JBL stuff will be brought up any time soon.

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Kriss wrote: I wonder if the Palmer Cannon-JBL stuff will be brought up any time soon.
JBL left the spotlight at the right time.  There's a lot of stuff there with him.  He's less of a target since he's not on TV anymore.

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Terry Crews names his assaulter: Adam Venit, who is head of the motion picture department at William Morris Endeavor.

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/terry-crews-names-alleged-sexual-assaulter-not-shamed-150807405--abc-news-celebrities.html

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The latest allegations are against...Ron Jeremy! LOL

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Al Franken now which is serious because he is a sitting Senator. Let's see how enthusiastic the other Dems are in regards to condemning him.

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No denial yet either. A sure give away that this has validity. I think maybe 20 to 25 pols on both sides are going to get hit now. This sort of thing is not restricted by party.

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srossi wrote: The latest allegations are against...Ron Jeremy! LOL
lol. Don't even know what to say about that one.

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khawk wrote: srossi wrote: The latest allegations are against...Ron Jeremy! LOL
lol. Don't even know what to say about that one.
It would be an insult to his legendary status if he wasn't accused. 

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Hef likely would have been next if he hadn't died.

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Breaking news on Al Franken being accused of kissing and groping a TV reporter without her consent.

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srossi wrote: Breaking news on Al Franken being accused of kissing and groping a TV reporter without her consent.
And there's a photo to boot of him possibly touching her vest, but definitely implying he is grabbing her boobs (while she is sleeping) taken by the USO photographer. Whoops.

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Hey Now Hank Kingsley







Following allegations of sexual harassment against its star, the writers for Amazon’s “Transparent” are reportedly working on writing Jeffrey Tambor’s character out of Season 5.
According to Deadline, the writers on the award-winning series were working on Season 5 when word dropped that Tambor is being investigated by the network after claims of sexual harassment were made against him. While it’s worth noting that no official word on that investigation has been made public by Amazon, it seems the writers are taking precautions.
As previously reported, the 73-year-old’s former assistant, a transgender woman named Van Barnes, made claims in a private Facebook post that detailed inappropriate behavior that Tambor allegedly engaged in while she worked with him.
“I am aware that a former disgruntled assistant of mine has made a private post implying that I had acted in an improper manner toward her,” Tambor told Fox News in a statement. “I adamantly and vehemently reject and deny any and all implication and allegation that I have ever engaged in any improper behavior toward this person or any other persons I have ever worked with.”
Tambor has garnered numerous awards including Golden Globes, Emmy and SAG trophies for his role as Maura Pfefferman on “Transparent.” Now it seems the writers of the series are preparing for a situation similar to that of Netflix with “House of Cards.”
After numerous men came forward with stories of harassment and predatory behavior about Kevin Spacey, Netflix decided to halt production on its hit series “House of Cards,” ultimately deciding to sever ties with Spacey after people from the production of the series came forward with allegations of their own. Now, the show is hoping to produce one last season, only without its star.
So far, it’s unclear if Amazon will need to present Season 5 without Tambor, and he is currently on board until any official announcement has been made.

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The photo's what's going to do him in even though I don't think there's any big deal in it. It was a fucking joke that hurt nobody. This shit is getting out of hand quickly. If he did forcibly jam his tongue down her throat that's another matter, but all in all we're fast approaching "burn the witch" territory.

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lobo316 wrote: Hey Now Hank Kingsley







Following allegations of sexual harassment against its star, the writers for Amazon’s “Transparent” are reportedly working on writing Jeffrey Tambor’s character out of Season 5.
According to Deadline, the writers on the award-winning series were working on Season 5 when word dropped that Tambor is being investigated by the network after claims of sexual harassment were made against him. While it’s worth noting that no official word on that investigation has been made public by Amazon, it seems the writers are taking precautions.
As previously reported, the 73-year-old’s former assistant, a transgender woman named Van Barnes, made claims in a private Facebook post that detailed inappropriate behavior that Tambor allegedly engaged in while she worked with him.
“I am aware that a former disgruntled assistant of mine has made a private post implying that I had acted in an improper manner toward her,” Tambor told Fox News in a statement. “I adamantly and vehemently reject and deny any and all implication and allegation that I have ever engaged in any improper behavior toward this person or any other persons I have ever worked with.”
Tambor has garnered numerous awards including Golden Globes, Emmy and SAG trophies for his role as Maura Pfefferman on “Transparent.” Now it seems the writers of the series are preparing for a situation similar to that of Netflix with “House of Cards.”
After numerous men came forward with stories of harassment and predatory behavior about Kevin Spacey, Netflix decided to halt production on its hit series “House of Cards,” ultimately deciding to sever ties with Spacey after people from the production of the series came forward with allegations of their own. Now, the show is hoping to produce one last season, only without its star.
So far, it’s unclear if Amazon will need to present Season 5 without Tambor, and he is currently on board until any official announcement has been made.

From the insanely hot Darlene to the respectably gay Brian to a grasping transsexual named Van?  Poor Hank.  It may be time for Artie to break out the divorce gun again.   

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When this is done is there going to be anyone left to be on TV? lol

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khawk wrote: When this is done is there going to be anyone left to be on TV? lol
Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood reruns will rule the air.

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KGB wrote: The photo's what's going to do him in even though I don't think there's any big deal in it. It was a fucking joke that hurt nobody. This shit is getting out of hand quickly. If he did forcibly jam his tongue down her throat that's another matter, but all in all we're fast approaching "burn the witch" territory.
Much like when Franken was a writer for SNL, it was a very unfunny joke if that's the case.

If a guy would take a photo like that with a model with others around, can we ponder what he might do to a sleeping model if no cameras were present?

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martini wrote: khawk wrote: When this is done is there going to be anyone left to be on TV? lol
Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood reruns will rule the air.


not if Mr. Rogers groped somebody

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lobo316 wrote: martini wrote: khawk wrote: When this is done is there going to be anyone left to be on TV? lol
Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood reruns will rule the air.


not if Mr. Rogers groped somebody

How dare you disrespect the impeccable name of Fred Rogers.

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martini wrote: KGB wrote: The photo's what's going to do him in even though I don't think there's any big deal in it. It was a fucking joke that hurt nobody. This shit is getting out of hand quickly. If he did forcibly jam his tongue down her throat that's another matter, but all in all we're fast approaching "burn the witch" territory.
Much like when Franken was a writer for SNL, it was a very unfunny joke if that's the case.

If a guy would take a photo like that with a model with others around, can we ponder what he might do to a sleeping model if no cameras were present?

I'm not commenting on whether it was funny or not, but it was clearly just a gag.  He was behaving, as our English cousins would say, like a lad.  I dare say most guys have done immature shit like this multiple times in their lives.  I'm no fan of Franken, but for Christ's sake do we have to live like we're Congregationalists in colonial New England?
 
You can ponder what he might do but it would be nothing but conjecture.  Let's stick to the realm of provable facts. 

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martini wrote: lobo316 wrote: martini wrote: khawk wrote: When this is done is there going to be anyone left to be on TV? lol
Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood reruns will rule the air.


not if Mr. Rogers groped somebody

How dare you disrespect the impeccable name of Fred Rogers.
I knew his son.  Had a buddy who went to Pitt and he was a roommate.  I visited them out there after they had graduated.  A party guy.  

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lobo316 wrote: martini wrote: khawk wrote: When this is done is there going to be anyone left to be on TV? lol
Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood reruns will rule the air.


not if Mr. Rogers groped somebody


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Unless Franken grabbed her breasts in that pic then its not sexual assault. its a stupid and immature guy thing to do. but she says he sent it to her after the other incident to rub it in her face. which is messed up thing to do.

A report has surfaced on Stallone from the 80's. I am amazed nothing has come forward on Vince. he is a lot like trump. we'll see.lol this is a guy who scripted himself making out with members of his female roster. Ugh.

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So this video popped up in my Youtube feed a week or so ago and then in the past few days this and similar other videos about Joe Biden have been the talk of conservative blogs.  What say you?  I'm not a Pizzagate believer, but this video is just creepy as fuck.  The constant stroking of the heads, the face nuzzling, the hands place oh-so-close to the breast, the way he seizes some of these girls.  And you can see how some of them are horribly uncomfortable.  They don't have the social skills yet to hide it.

 


And what about the families that let this go on again and again?  Are they fearful of crossing the Veep?  Seriously, if you took your young daughter to a company function and you noticed a certain coworker kept fondling every young girl he was introduced to, you'd be ready to belt the guy.  So with that, here's Jeff Sessions.  Watch as Biden makes a move for his granddaughter and Sessions swats his hands away.  Why?  Had he seen or heard something that made him wary of Biden or was he the only guy that day who was adequately protective of his progeny?


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Married Jo wrote: lobo316 wrote: martini wrote: khawk wrote: When this is done is there going to be anyone left to be on TV? lol
Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood reruns will rule the air.


not if Mr. Rogers groped somebody


 

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Looks like there's some problems with the embeds I posted last night.  Firefox released an all new version and I think they've got some bugs to work out.  Or maybe there are some compatibility issues with this board.  So let me just put the links in. 
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KGB wrote: Looks like there's some problems with the embeds I posted last night.  Firefox released an all new version and I think they've got some bugs to work out.  Or maybe there are some compatibility issues with this board.  So let me just put the links in. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4XMvWIRmx0
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqPln0m6sxE

I don't need to see the vids, I've seen multiple videos of Biden going all creepy perv on kids and women..dude just can't keep his hands to himself...

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Ok, curiousity got the better of me and I went back and clicked your first link and geezus, I've seen some of those in video or animated gif format but there's a LOT more there that I had never seen before...watching that there's no doubt in my mind Biden has molested before, good God..

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"What I've learned from all of this is simple. Americans are perverts."

You say that like it's a bad thing. I'm a dirty old man and proud of it!

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Detailed report on the rape allegations against Sylvester Stallone and his bodyguard.

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/police-report-shows-sylvester-stallone-accused-raping-16yo-girl/

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Principal_Raditch wrote: What I've learned from all of this is simple. Americans are perverts.Nixon wasn't, and look what happened. I think I'm more comfortable with the ass grabbers.

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This is hilarious.

http://www.clickhole.com/blogpost/male-feminist-i-really-think-id-absolutely-crush-i-7018#1,

As A Male Feminist, I Really Think I’d Absolutely Crush It If I Ever Had To Publicly Apologize For Sexual Misconduct

America is now confronting its endemic sexual harassment problem and finally holding powerful men accountable for their crimes against women in an unprecedented way. Big-name celebrities and media titans are being outed as the sex criminals they truly are, but infuriatingly, exposed serial abusers like Harvey Weinstein and Louis CK continue to issue public apologies that fail to convey sincere remorse and attempt to justify their heinous behavior. These weak, mealy-mouthed mea culpas cannot be tolerated, and as a male feminist and ally to women, I believe that I would totally crush it if I ever had to publicly apologize for sexual misconduct.

Seriously. It would be an absolute slam dunk.

First off, I would immediately admit to the charges leveled against me. Whatever I was accused of doing, whether it was lewd comments, groping, public masturbation, coercing female employees into sex for promotions, or something even worse, I would own up to it because, as a progressive, I do not want to contribute to a culture that discredits women for speaking up. I read enough feminist think-pieces to know that it’s important to believe women, and in my apology, there wouldn’t be any half-assed claims about misconstruing signals or consent, no fucking way. I would own that shit.

Also, I wouldn’t wait until a Cosby-sized crowd of victims stepped forward. The moment one woman accused me of spiking her drink, boom, I’d post a full confession about what I did to her and also any other women I had traumatized. I would get the ball rolling on my public disgrace ASAP, without dilly-dallying until after a New York Times exposé forced my hand.

I would be held so goddamn accountable, you wouldn’t believe it. I’m seriously getting amped just thinking about it.

And you know what else? My admission of wrongdoing would be so fucking contrite. It’d go down in history as the gold standard of copping to serial molestation. I’d use the word “apologize” and say “I’m sorry.” I’d check off all the boxes that feminist Twitter looks for in an airtight apology, and I’d continue expressing remorse in the ensuing weeks to wow the world with the magnitude of my self-reproach. You want closure? I would blow the women I preyed on away with a fucking tsunami of closure to help them heal and move on with their lives—closure like people have never seen before. People would honestly probably be awed at how sorry I’d be.

Then, after proclaiming all my sexual misdeeds, I would eloquently segue into an uplifting message about how society as a whole needs to address sexism and how I hope that other men would learn from my example. And you can bet your sweet ass I’d have a bitchin’ metaphor to reinforce my points. In fact, I’ve already got a pretty fucking awesome one locked and loaded in my notes app just in case—not that, to my knowledge, I’ve ever committed any sexual misconduct against women or anything, but you never know. Should I ever get called in off the bench, I want to be ready to charge straight to the front lines of progress to wave my apology like a goddamn battle flag.

And, naturally, should I ever have an occasion to bring forth such an apology, I would conclude it by announcing that I was withdrawing from public life to work on bettering myself as a human. I wouldn’t try to blame my problem on sex addiction or some bullshit excuse like that, no siree. I would declare that I was a shitty and selfish person who didn’t care who he hurt as long as he got what he wanted, and I’d say that I was ready to do whatever it took to change myself and atone for my horrific behavior. I would stick the landing so goddamn hard.

The internet would find my epic honesty so refreshing that my redemptive arc would be put on a fast track. HuffPo and Medium bloggers would be publishing headlines like, “Now THIS Is How You Do An Apology,” and while people would still be mad at me, you can’t imagine they’d be able to hold shit against me for too long. If I had to guess, I’d say all the employers that had fired me would quietly invite me to return within a month or two. Although, if I really wanted to hit it out of the park, I would insist that I didn’t deserve a second chance. Sayonara, fuckers, put a fork in me. I’m done.

I would just go away forever, with my badass apology as the unforgettable send-off people would be talking about for years. As a feminist, it’d be the least I could do.

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A second accuser has come forward against Al Franken, and this one is a little worse and the accuser is certainly very credible. She immediately told her family that Franken grabbed her ass during a photo op at a state fair, and when she posted the pic on Facebook she even publicly wrote to her sister "Dude -- Al Franken TOTALLY molested me! Creeper!" This happened in 2010 after he was already in politics, and although she didn't go to the news until yesterday, she can't really be accused of not saying anything at the time considering it was on Facebook for 7 years. 

Franken's response is just slightly better than invoking the Virgin Mary.  "I take thousands of photos at the state fair surrounded by hundreds of people, and I certainly don't remember taking this picture.  I feel badly that Ms. Menz came away from our interaction feeling disrespected."  That is not at ALL a denial.  If you've never grabbed a stranger's ass, you would just fucking say it in very emphatic terms.  You wouldn't say that you can't remember grabbing this particular ass. 

Full story:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/woman-says-al-franken-inappropriately-touched-her-in-2010/ar-BBFlVOU

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At this rate, I just need to claim I was harassed by my female coworkers, and demand million dollar settlement from my employer.

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A bit worse than the normal charges. Former Oklahoma Senator and Trump campaign coordinator Ralph Shorty, who of course is super anti-gay, pleaded guilty to child sex trafficking in exchange for getting 3 child pornography charges dropped. It’s not real sex trafficking though, he simply met underage boys in hotel rooms and paid them for sex.  But the Bible says that Joseph used to suck off teenage boys when Mary wouldn’t put out, so it’s really not a big deal. At least that’s what my Bible says.  

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/_family_values_republican_state_senator_pleads_guilty_to_child_sex_trafficking_after_child_pornography_charges_dropped?utm_content=buffera0b17&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

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I think this thread missed Buccaneers QB Jameis Winston by an Uber driver. Her story completely unraveled over the weekend though.

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New York Times reporter Glenn Thrush also.

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Who is going to be the first big name female busted?

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Principal_Raditch wrote: Who is going to be the first big name female busted?
Caitlyn Jenner

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srossi wrote: Principal_Raditch wrote: Who is going to be the first big name female busted?
Caitlyn Jenner
Awesome! 
Yea, this sort of thing knows no boundaries.  I do think some of it is bullshit.  There is a difference between being a womanizer and harasser.   The thing with the Trump guy is awful. 
Franken has to resign at this point.  Moore should have dropped out.  Lots of special elections coming.  We should all move to DC or Hollywood.  Lots of job openings coming soon. 

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Ultimark wrote: srossi wrote: Principal_Raditch wrote: Who is going to be the first big name female busted?
Caitlyn Jenner
Awesome! 
Yea, this sort of thing knows no boundaries.  I do think some of it is bullshit.  There is a difference between being a womanizer and harasser.   The thing with the Trump guy is awful. 
Franken has to resign at this point.  Moore should have dropped out.  Lots of special elections coming.  We should all move to DC or Hollywood.  Lots of job openings coming soon. 

The liberals commenting on Franken threads are every bit as looney as the Republicans commenting on Moore threads.  They're all fucking nuts.   

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srossi wrote: Ultimark wrote: srossi wrote: Principal_Raditch wrote: Who is going to be the first big name female busted?
Caitlyn Jenner
Awesome! 
Yea, this sort of thing knows no boundaries.  I do think some of it is bullshit.  There is a difference between being a womanizer and harasser.   The thing with the Trump guy is awful. 
Franken has to resign at this point.  Moore should have dropped out.  Lots of special elections coming.  We should all move to DC or Hollywood.  Lots of job openings coming soon. 

The liberals commenting on Franken threads are every bit as looney as the Republicans commenting on Moore threads.  They're all fucking nuts.   
JMO but I don't think you can call for Moore to drop out without calling for Franken to resign.  

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The only time you see this stuff come up with women is with female school teachers. its crazy the amount of stories you see of female school teachers hooking up with their male students. has any one done a study on this? its crazy. every other day you see a story on it. wtf?

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srossi wrote:But the Bible says that Joseph used to suck off teenage boys when Mary wouldn’t put out, so it’s really not a big deal. At least that’s what my Bible says.  "
I hate to break it to you, but that "Bible" you bought in a Times Square bookshop back in the day wasn't legit.

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Disney executive and Pixar co-founder John Lasseter forced to take leave of absence after sexual harassment charges.

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Wacky Melissa Gilbert says Oliver Stone humiliated her during an audition for The Doors by making her act out lines from a raunchy sex scene in the film.

Stone and the casting director from the film fire back saying she and everyone else auditioned were informed well beforehand that they were doing that scene.

Not Stone's first allegation, but Gilbert isn't well-known for her stability either.

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I had a part-time writing job in college in 2007. I was the first person in the door each morning because I had classes later in the day. One day I walked in, and the weird guy who owned the place was sitting in his underwear working at a small desk like you'd see in schoo. I should say this scarred me horribly.

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bpickering wrote: Anyone besides me shocked that no one has accused Vinny Mac yet?
Unless someone can prove that he really does have balls the size of grapefruits, then I think he's safe for now.

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This is why I only read the Jim Londos Tijuana Bible
srossi wrote:  But the Bible says that Joseph used to suck off teenage boys when Mary wouldn’t put out, so it’s really not a big deal. At least that’s what my Bible says.  

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Will Don Henley be next?  This is some disgusting shit, although it's not like bits and pieces of it haven't been known for decades.

http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2017/11/blind-item-1-he-made-millions-from.html

A snippet:

On arrival, the girls were fed cocaine to get them excited, and Quaaludes to keep them calm.  They smoked a lot of pot, and after a dip in the Jacuzzi with the rocker, they all three headed to the bedroom.  The entire time the Rocker kept asking the girls to do things to each other, which neither had done before.  They figured maybe if they did each other – he wouldn't do them. They were hesitant and scared, and the Rocker got more and more violent.  He kept taking Polaroid pictures of them all, doing everything, which embarrassed the girls. The 16 y.o. asked to leave.  The Rocker told them they couldn't because they'd be arrested and it was too late to call a cab.  He pushed more and more drugs on them both.

After the 15 year-old passed out, he began raping her.  Then he began raping the 16 year-old.  When the younger girl woke up, she was scared to death, and saw her friend was having convulsions.  The Rocker was ignoring her, yelling on the phone, talking to someone later revealed to be #2.  Then the Paramedics arrived.  They walked into a scene they described as "Sodom and Gomorrah" with drugs, vomit, and booze everywhere.  Both underage girls were totally naked, although the younger of the two began trying to dress.

 
EDIT:  Why is this more relevant today?
 
What they didn't know, however, and still don't know – is what became of the other girl. That 15 year-old runaway, who took the bus ticket, cash, and blew town.  She too turned her life around, got straight, and found good people up in northern California to take her in.  She went to college, found a nice man, had a family and settled down.  That nice man she married would go on to a nice career in politics.  And with his wife's support, he's become one of the most powerful men in California politics.  Now, all the years later, that scared runaway girl has grown into a confident, fearless, brilliant woman.  She's spent the past few years (urged on by her husband and kids) putting her story and the case meticulously back together. Piece by piece. Legally.

In 2018 she's going to drop a bomb of a "reveal" on the Rocker, the Manager, and the ex-label executive.  She's prepared a criminal charge against them for many of their misdeeds (which include racketeering and collusion and criminal conspiracy), and is also hitting them with civil charges – with any funds being set aside for childhood victims.  Because, you see, those Polaroids she swiped that night? She blew town with them. Years later she found them and put them in a safe deposit box.  She now has many copies, including in her attorney's safe. They too will be revealed in her case, along with hospital records, court records, legal affidavits from old cops and Paramedics.  There's even a video deposition from the original Madam back from before her death. And the former golden boy detective? He was later caught for his many, many misdeeds and arrested.  And he talked too.

So as this Rocker sits down in his palace this Thanksgiving, giving thanks to himself for being so wonderful, he better enjoy it.  His next one will likely be spent eating from a cold, metal tray in jail.  He and his wealthy mogul pals will be the Turkeys, and justice will be served.



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How do you know this is Don Henley?

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Click on the link and read through the comments:
 
#1 – Permanent A list singer from a permanent A list group: Don Henley (“Eagles”)
#2 – The manager of #1 and many many many others: Irving Azoff
#3 – Top 3 entertainment mogul. You don’t mess with him: David Geffen
#4 – A+ list singer back in the day. Probably permanent A- list singer: Stevie Nicks
#5 – Permanent A list celebrity: Jimmy Iovine
#6 – Celebrity madam who has passed/detective: Elizabeth Adams/Mike Brambles
#7 – Permanent A list actress who was murdered: Natalie Wood
#8 – Permanent A+ list celebrity: President Bill Clinton
#9 – Permanent A+ list celebrity and spouse of #8: First Lady Hillary Clinton

 
Personally, I don't see the point of dragging in the Clintons' names as they have nothing to do with this story, but hey...

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https://ca.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idCAKBN1DM2CV-OCAEN

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Soon it's gonna be a shorter list of who isn't accused.

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We need to think about a Career Dead Pool for 2018.

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KGB wrote: Click on the link and read through the comments:
 
#1 – Permanent A list singer from a permanent A list group: Don Henley (“Eagles”)
#2 – The manager of #1 and many many many others: Irving Azoff
#3 – Top 3 entertainment mogul. You don’t mess with him: David Geffen
#4 – A+ list singer back in the day. Probably permanent A- list singer: Stevie Nicks
#5 – Permanent A list celebrity: Jimmy Iovine
#6 – Celebrity madam who has passed/detective: Elizabeth Adams/Mike Brambles
#7 – Permanent A list actress who was murdered: Natalie Wood
#8 – Permanent A+ list celebrity: President Bill Clinton
#9 – Permanent A+ list celebrity and spouse of #8: First Lady Hillary Clinton

 
Personally, I don't see the point of dragging in the Clintons' names as they have nothing to do with this story, but hey...

Well I haven't heard anything in the media about these suspeicions and yesterday The Eagles just announced a 2018 comeback tour with Vince Gill on vocals, so those plans will definitely get fucked up if this is remotely true.

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Three-time Olympic gold medalist Gabby Douglas has become the third prominent American gymnast to claim that she was sexually abused by former US team doctor Larry Nassar.
Douglas' allegation follows statements by former USA Gymnastics teammates McKayla Maroney and Aly Raisman who claimed that Nassar abused them during their careers.The 21-year-old Douglas recently drew fierce criticism on social media for her response to a tweet by Raisman which said the way a woman dresses does not give a man the right to sexually abuse her.
    We are all in this together. If we are going to create change I need all your help.pic.twitter.com/q9d12z0KHn
    — Alexandra Raisman (@Aly_Raisman)November 17, 2017
    Douglas replied to the tweet, which was subsequently deleted, saying women should "dress modestly and be classy ... dressing in a provocative/sexual way entices the wrong crowd."In a lengthy message posted on Instagram, Tuesday, Douglas apologized for those comments before going on to allege that she too had been abused by Nassar."I didn't view my comments as victim shaming because I know that no matter what you wear, it NEVER gives anyone the right to harass or abuse you. It would be like saying that because of the leotards we wore, it was our fault we were abused by Larry Nassar," Douglas said."I didn't publicly share my experiences as well as many other things because for years we were conditioned to stay silent and honestly some things were extremely painful. I wholeheartedly support my teammates for coming forward with what happened to them."

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    Big difference between physical abuse and verbal harassment. Huge difference.

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    Matt Lauer just shitcanned

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42168640

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    srossi wrote: We need to think about a Career Dead Pool for 2018.
    Excellent idea

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    broke wrote: srossi wrote: We need to think about a Career Dead Pool for 2018.
    Excellent idea

    I was thinking about maybe adding bonus points to the Dead Pool, like if one of your picks dies in 2018 after getting a sexual harassment/abuse complaint against him for the 1st time (starting Jan., no bonuses for someone like H.W. Bush) you get double points.  Something like that.  Have to think about it.  But if someone wants to start a whole new pool they can do that too.  It's just a bit trickier because death is pretty cut and dry and this is a little more subjective and there might be disputes over what counts and what doesn't.

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    1 person accuses him and Lauer gets canned. They say that there is reason to believe there is more.

    I am sure the Inquisition started in Spain as a nice, polite effort to convert Jews to Catholicism.

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    Ultimark wrote: 1 person accuses him and Lauer gets canned. They say that there is reason to believe there is more.

    I am sure the Inquisition started in Spain as a nice, polite effort to convert Jews to Catholicism.

    Apparently Lauer had a long history of fucking subordinates and that was overlooked, but this accusation is straight-up rape and could be pretty bad for him.  His wife also divorced him for "cruel and inhumane treatment" a decade ago.

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    How long before someone accuses Sean Hannitty?

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    srossi wrote: Ultimark wrote: 1 person accuses him and Lauer gets canned. They say that there is reason to believe there is more.

    I am sure the Inquisition started in Spain as a nice, polite effort to convert Jews to Catholicism.

    Apparently Lauer had a long history of fucking subordinates and that was overlooked, but this accusation is straight-up rape and could be pretty bad for him.  His wife also divorced him for "cruel and inhumane treatment" a decade ago.
    I don't know any of the details.  However, all these types of things eventually go overboard.  Again, not sure with Lauer.  

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    Hannity was already accused by a former Fox News contributor. He basically said fuck off, it's not true. The right way to handle it if you didn't do it.

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    Garrison Keillor just nailed. At this rate, they will get the Pope in about a week.

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    Lauer has a pretty significant history, which was being investigated by the NY Times. This isn't a case of NBC overreacting.

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    Katie Couric now claiming that Lauer grabbed her ass on a regular basis. I don’t know why women in these types of positions especially never said anything.

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    Principal_Raditch wrote: Matt Lauer just shitcanned

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42168640


    More details emerging. You wouldn't want your wife/girlfriend, daughter working for this guy.








    Matt Lauer, a familiar face in morning news as the anchor of "Today" for two decades, was fired by NBC News on Wednesday after a female colleague made a detailed complaint accusing him of inappropriate sexual behavior during the 2014 Sochi Olympics.
    The accusation also noted that the alleged behavior continued in the workplace after the games, NBC News confirmed.
    Later on Wednesday, The New York Times reported that two more women had made complaints about Lauer after he was fired. An unidentified former employee told The Times that Lauer sexually assaulted her in his office in 2001. NBC officials confirmed that two more accusers had come forward on Wednesday. And Variety published a more sweeping account of Lauer's sexual misconduct with at least three women over several years.
    "Today" co-anchors Savannah Guthrie and Hoda Kotb were emotional as they announced Lauer's firing Wednesday, telling viewers at the top of the live broadcast that they were "heartbroken" over his departure but didn't yet know all of the details.


    In a memo to employees sent Wednesday morning, NBC News Chairman Andrew Lack said the complaint prompted a serious review and represented a "clear violation of our company's standards."
    Lack said it was the first complaint lodged against Lauer, 59, for his behavior since he took over as anchor of the show in 1997, but there was "reason to believe" it may not have been an isolated incident.
    "Our highest priority is to create a workplace environment where everyone feels safe and protected, and to ensure that any actions that run counter to our core values are met with consequences, no matter who the offender," Lack said.
    On Thursday, Lauer released a statement saying he was "truly sorry." His statement was a partial denial but he admitted that "there is enough truth in these stories to make me feel embarrassed and ashamed."
    On Wednesday afternoon, a few hours after Lauer's ouster was announced,Variety published an article that depicted Lauer as a serial harasser of women who worked on "Today," preying on many of the female producers who worked for him. The accusers in the article were anonymous, and their accounts have not been confirmed by NBC News.


    “He couldn’t sleep around town with celebrities or on the road with random people, because he’s Matt Lauer and he’s married," a former producer told the magazine. "So he’d have to do it with his stable, where he exerted power, and he knew people wouldn’t ever complain.”
    Variety said that during the course of a two-month investigation, it spoke with three women who claimed they were sexually harassed by Lauer and corroborated their stories with “dozens of interviews with current and former staffers.”
    The staffers who spoke to Variety accused him of exposing himself to one woman, and then reprimanding her for not engaging in a sex act. He was also accused of giving another colleague a sex toy as a present along with “an explicit note about how he wanted to use it on her.”
    The article said the women complained to management, but the complaints fell on deaf ears given the lucrative advertising surrounding "Today."

    A spokesperson for NBC forcefully denied that anyone who is now in management was made aware of these complaints.
    "We can say unequivocally, that, prior to Monday night, current NBC News management was never made aware of any complaints about Matt Lauer’s conduct," the spokesperson said.
    The unidentified woman who said Lauer sexually assaulted her in 2001 said she felt helpless to stop the encounter because she did not want to lose her job, and did not report it because she was ashamed.
    Ari Wilkenfeld, who said he is the lawyer for the woman whose accusation against Lauer prompted his firing, said in a statement that he and his client met Monday evening for several hours with representatives from NBC's Human Resources and Legal Department. He said she did not want to be identified.
    "Our impression at this point is that NBC acted quickly, as all companies should, when confronted with credible allegations of sexual misconduct in the workplace," Wilkenfeld said. "While I am encouraged by NBC's response to date, I am in awe of the courage my client showed to be the first to raise a complaint and to do so without making any demands other than the company do the right thing."


    Guthrie, who joined Lauer at the anchor desk in 2012, said she was "heartbroken" for both him and the "brave colleague who came forward to tell her story and any other women who have their stories to tell."
    "I'm sure we will be learning more details in the hours and days to come. And we promise we will share that with you," she said.
    Kotb added that she has known Lauer as a friend and colleague for 15 years and "it's hard to reconcile what we are hearing with the man who we know, who walks in this building every single day."
    Guthrie said it can be difficult to make sense of accusations of inappropriate sexual behavior against a longtime colleague.
    "How do you reconcile your love for someone with the revelation that they have behaved badly, and I don't know the answer to that," she said. "But I do know that this reckoning, that so many organizations have been going through, is important, it's long overdue and it must result in workplaces where all women — all people — feel safe and respected."
    Lauer's departure comes in the wake of sexual misconduct complaints lodged in recent months against high-profile men working in entertainment, politics and media.
    Last week, talk show host and journalist Charlie Rose was fired by CBS News, PBS and Bloomberg after eight women accused him of past sexual harassment and unwanted advances in a report in The Washington Post.
    Rose, who co-hosted "CBS This Morning," released a statement apologizing for his behavior while maintaining that some of the allegations were inaccurate.


    The married father of three began his journalism career in television markets throughout the country before returning to his native New York and eventually working for the local NBC station WNBC as a co-anchor of the morning news program.
    In 1992, he began filling in on "Today" and was promoted as a news anchor two years later before taking over for Bryant Gumbel in 1997. Paired with co-anchor Katie Couric, Lauer became a marquee name with the network, and helped "Today" remain a ratings powerhouse with countless interviews of world leaders and celebrities and the coverage of presidential campaigns and Olympic Games.
    Before teaming up with Guthrie, Lauer also shared his "Today" co-anchor duties with Meredith Vieira and Ann Curry, who tearfully exited the show in 2012. The New York Times reported that Curry felt humiliated by a "boy's club atmosphere" at the show, and believed Lauer was indifferent to her concerns.
    Variety reported last year that his contract with NBC was extended through 2018 for $20 million a year — keeping him one of the highest-paid anchors in the industry.
    Early Wednesday, President Donald Trump noted Lauer's firing on Twitter, writing, "Wow, Matt Lauer was just fired from NBC for 'inappropriate sexual behavior in the workplace.' But when will the top executives at NBC & Comcast be fired for putting out so much Fake News."
    Lauer's firing comes after NBC News also ended the employment of its senior vice president for booking, Matt Zimmerman, after learning about "inappropriate conduct" with more than one woman at NBC Universal, the parent company of NBC.
    NBC News also cut ties with senior political analyst Mark Halperin after multiple reports surfaced that he sexually harassed at least a dozen women while serving as political director for ABC News. Halperin apologized on Twitter for his behavior. 






    https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/sexual-misconduct/nbc-news-fires-today-anchor-matt-lauer-after-sexual-misconduct-n824831

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    I heard on the radio this morning that among the accusations is a woman saying that Lauer locked her in his office, bent her over his desk, and raped her. This type of thing is definitely more serious than most of the allegations being thrown around and if true I hope he gets arrested. We need to stop lumping every allegation together, as if an off-color joke or a drunken pinch of the ass is the same thing as "real rape" (to spin a phrase from my Republican friends).

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    srossi wrote: I heard on the radio this morning that among the accusations is a woman saying that Lauer locked her in his office, bent her over his desk, and raped her. This type of thing is definitely more serious than most of the allegations being thrown around and if true I hope he gets arrested. We need to stop lumping every allegation together, as if an off-color joke or a drunken pinch of the ass is the same thing as "real rape" (to spin a phrase from my Republican friends).


    Supposedly he had a lock on his office door that was activated from a button on his desk. Once the door was locked, there was no escape for his victims. It's incredible  how he got away with it for so many years.

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    srossi wrote: Katie Couric now claiming that Lauer grabbed her ass on a regular basis. I don’t know why women in these types of positions especially never said anything.Well, there's no accounting for Lauer's taste. 

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    That is some really serious shit. I wonder what was going through his mind when he was interviewing Bill O'Reilly? Total denial or "I am massively fucked"?

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    Ultimark wrote: That is some really serious shit. I wonder what was going through his mind when he was interviewing Bill O'Reilly? Total denial or "I am massively fucked"?
    Every day as more accusations emerge, and more people basically admit to them immediately, I wonder "Which guy who is doing the firing or sending the outraged tweet or reporting the story in a somber and disgusted tone is going to wind up being accused tomorrow because he did the same thing?"  They HAVE TO be shitting bricks behind the façade knowing that it's coming.  You'd have to have a legit mental illness to be at that level of denial for you not to see it coming.  

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    Lost in the Lauer hysteria is yet another Al Franken accusation, this time from a veteran who says he grabbed her ass on a USO tour in 2003 during a photo opp.  Well that's one way to make our veterans feel like they're back home.

    What a bizarre MO both he and George Bush have.  It's more sad than anything else.  You're a celebrity and women take pics with you and you cop your quick feel in between flashes to get your jollies before running/rolling away.  I just don't get how that is satisfying at all or how someone could be that desperate for the slightest degree of sexual contact.  Bush is Bush, he's a decrepit old man and that's all he has left.  It's sad but I get it I suppose.  For Franken, it's even more pathetic.  I don't think they're monsters and I think it's a huge stretch to call this sexual assault, but it sorta makes you think about the loneliness and desperation that must be in some people's heads even when you assume they've got it made.     

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    Geraldo Rivera and Bill Mahr are on the clock.

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    Ultimark wrote: Geraldo Rivera and Bill Mahr are on the clock.
    Geraldo's tweets defending Lauer and calling news "a flirty biz" were slammed so vehemently it caused FOX News to pull the old "these tweets to not reflect the views of FOX News" line. 

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    Russell Simmons

    http://money.cnn.com/2017/11/30/media/russell-simmons-sexual-assault-stepping-down-companies/index.html

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    Ultimark wrote: Geraldo Rivera and Bill Mahr are on the clock.


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    Teddy Davis, senior producer at CNN, producer of "I'm totes non-partisan!" Jake Tapper's show. 
    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/cnn-producer-fired-alleged-inappropriate-behavior-1062687?utm_source=twitter&utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral

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    AUSTIN, Texas—Republican U.S. Rep. Joe Barton, Texas’ most-senior member of Congress, announced Thursday that he won’t seek re-election after a naked photo of him circulated online and a conservative activist released past messages of a sexual nature from him.

    The photo of the 68-year-old Barton was posted on an anonymous Twitter account just before Thanksgiving and Barton apologized. But he also suggested he could be the victim of online exploitation by a woman he’d had a relationship with whose name has not been released.

    About a week later, tea party organizer Kelly Canon revealed Facebook Messenger exchanges from 2012 in which Barton asked if she was wearing panties and made other sexual references. Now twice-divorced, Barton was still married to his second wife at the time of their online exchanges.

    Read more: Republican Congressman told woman, on tape, he would report her to police if she exposed his secret sex life

    Canon said her relationship with Barton never advanced beyond the messages. She said Barton hadn’t apologized for them and that she hadn’t asked him to — but she also called on him to resign so that his private life couldn’t be used against him and other Republicans during 2018 congressional elections.

    In announcing that he would retire next year, Barton made no mention of the embarrassing revelations.

    “I am very proud of my public record and the many accomplishments of my office,” he said in a statement. “Now is time to step aside and let there be a new voice.”

    Canon said she was happy that Barton had “finally came to his senses.”

    “I am very relieved that we do not have to fight that battle,” the tea party activist said by phone after Barton’s announcement. “It would have been a feeding frenzy and it would have affected so many other races.”

    Though his seat remains safely Republican, Barton this week had drawn a little-known challenger for Texas’ March primary and could have faced others. Immediately after his retirement announcement, Texas Republicans began lining up to replace him.

    Before Barton decided to retire, political pressure on him to quit had increased. The Republican Party chairman in his North Texas home county of Tarrant called on him to step aside this week and began being joined by Republican members of the Texas’ state Senate.

    A former oil and gas consultant, Barton was first elected to Congress in 1984 and his retirement now means a whopping seven of the state’s 36 members of Congress aren’t seeking re-election. All but two of those open seats are Republican.

    Barton, who is from Ennis, just south of Dallas, is vice chairman of the House Committee on Energy and Commerce and manages the Republican team that was practicing for a charity congressional baseball game in June when a gunmen opened fire, seriously wounding one congressman.

    He’s a member of the Freedom Caucus, a group known for sometimes clashing with Republican leadership on conservative issues.

    Barton was the only Texas congressional Republican to say he would support a proposed immigration package that would provide protections for immigrants who were brought to the U.S. illegally as children. If approved, that could be an alternative to the Obama administration’s Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program that U.S. President Donald Trump says he will do away with.

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    Yea, people Conservatives or Liberals who celebrate when the other side gets hit should hold their applause.

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    Ultimark wrote: Yea, people Conservatives or Liberals who celebrate when the other side gets hit should hold their applause.

    If you try to make a move on a female or male at the workplace and you were in position of power you should wait

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    I guess its Geoff Zaun's turn today. Former catcher and bluejays broadcaster let go due to inappropriate actions

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    It's just ridiculous now. Any guy with any notoriety whatsoever who so much as looked in the direction of some woman who thinks she famous and has any kind of looks and who was relevant for 15 seconds 30 years ago is suddenly offended. Any publicity is good for some of these women especially if other women are getting attention and they aren't.
    Where are the men who were harassed by some woman in power. Surely there are some of those out there.
    And as far as Matt Lauer, shouldn't Rossi just have been thankful for the ass grab instead of complaining about it.

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    Gregg Zaun, who was the shits during Jays games both on and off the field:

    http://www.cbc.ca/sports/baseball/mlb/gregg-zaun-rogers-sportsnet-fired-1.4427565

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    Jesus, I wish I'd listened to the sanctimonious SJW's on the FAN590 yesterday to hear how chastened they are over the news that one of their coworkers could be such a cad!  I'm sure there was the requisite hand wringing and concern expressed for, well not just the women involved because that wouldn't White Knight enough, but all human beings everywhere who did, do, or may in the future identify as a female.

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    Almost makes you wonder when Baby Cindi will say (s)he was sexually assaulted...

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    broke wrote: Gregg Zaun, who was the shits during Jays games both on and off the field:

    http://www.cbc.ca/sports/baseball/mlb/gregg-zaun-rogers-sportsnet-fired-1.4427565


    I'll miss Zaun next season. The guy was never a homer, unlike that idiot Wilner.

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    Angelic Assassin wrote: It's just ridiculous now. Any guy with any notoriety whatsoever who so much as looked in the direction of some woman who thinks she famous and has any kind of looks and who was relevant for 15 seconds 30 years ago is suddenly offended. Any publicity is good for some of these women especially if other women are getting attention and they aren't.
    Where are the men who were harassed by some woman in power. Surely there are some of those out there.
    And as far as Matt Lauer, shouldn't Rossi just have been thankful for the ass grab instead of complaining about it.

    Who wants that kind of publicity? Is she going to parlay it into an acting career? Some of the women whose names are out there already have a measure of fame. I haven't seen any names attached to Lauer's accusers.

    From what we've seen so far, the stories seem to be legit. Apparently Lauer was a total asshole, as was Harvey W. Louie CK, too. I've been an avid and accomplished mastubatory artist for decades, but I've never wanted an audience.

    It's a bitch that their careers basically imploded overnight, but this is the hell they bought with the way they acted.

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    http://money.cnn.com/2017/12/01/media/geraldo-rivera-bette-midler-apology-sexual-harassment/index.html?iid=TL_Popular

    I missed this - Geraldo accused of drugging Bette Milder. WTF?

    It can only be a matter of hours until Bill Mahr is hit.

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    Bill Maher.

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    Ultimark wrote: http://money.cnn.com/2017/12/01/media/geraldo-rivera-bette-midler-apology-sexual-harassment/index.html?iid=TL_Popular

    I missed this - Geraldo accused of drugging Bette Milder. WTF?

    It can only be a matter of hours until Bill Mahr is hit.


    The video of the Baba Wawa interview with Bette is on page 13 of this thread.

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    Oh - can't keep up anymore.

    Maher? Got it.

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    TerryWWWF wrote: Angelic Assassin wrote: It's just ridiculous now. Any guy with any notoriety whatsoever who so much as looked in the direction of some woman who thinks she famous and has any kind of looks and who was relevant for 15 seconds 30 years ago is suddenly offended. Any publicity is good for some of these women especially if other women are getting attention and they aren't.
    Where are the men who were harassed by some woman in power. Surely there are some of those out there.
    And as far as Matt Lauer, shouldn't Rossi just have been thankful for the ass grab instead of complaining about it.

    Who wants that kind of publicity? Is she going to parlay it into an acting career? Some of the women whose names are out there already have a measure of fame. I haven't seen any names attached to Lauer's accusers.

    From what we've seen so far, the stories seem to be legit. Apparently Lauer was a total asshole, as was Harvey W. Louie CK, too. I've been an avid and accomplished mastubatory artist for decades, but I've never wanted an audience.

    It's a bitch that their careers basically imploded overnight, but this is the hell they bought with the way they acted.
    Hard to disagree with this.  Not that hard to treat people decently and do your job.

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    I do think some will be unjustly accused. These things are manias that get out of control.

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    Ultimark wrote: I do think some will be unjustly accused. These things are manias that get out of control.This is the thing right here. It's become a fad to accuse someone, like fidget spinners are a fad. And as far as publicity, getting a bunch of sympathy from people is publicity enough even if you have to admit you were passed or groped or whatever. Some may well be accusing someone because they "didn't" hit on then instead of did because they were a doe eyed groupie or whatever.
    Not saying it's not happening hell it's happened  a 1000 times since I started typing this up on something the size of an ice cube, but soon literally every woman on the planet will have been sexually harassed. Hell, Eve will come back from the dead and accuse Adam of forcing her to eat the apple while he back doors her.
    If it happened 30 years ago and you're speaking up now you are only doing to be part of the monkey see monkey do crowd.

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    I don't think a lot of women are doing it because its hip to do it. i think they finally want their voice heard about it and they are calling out the D Bags responsible and hopefully the men will be punished in some way. they feel victimized and its probably been bothering them for a long time. I am actually enjoying seeing all of these men called out and being punished. now if the incident was the guy putting his hand on a woman's behind in a picture taken in 1990 that's a bit much. its disrespectful but i don't think someone's career should be ruined over it but when its real physical assault then that's a different story. and when there are 16 women coming forward like with Trump then something should be done.

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    It's a combination of both. You have the real ones and then you have the yahoos looking for social media attention. Like with anything. 

    On the Matt Lauer one....if that bit with his desk having a lock on it is true...who approved that? Who installed that? Heads should roll for allowing that.

    Matt: I need an automatic inside lock on my desk for the door.

    Executive: Why????

    Matt: Uh......rape

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    So far no wrestler has been accused of rape or sexual assault.

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    lobo316 wrote: So far no wrestler has been accused of rape or sexual assault.98.4% of all professional wrestlers have too much pride in themselves and their sport to ever want to bring it down to such a base level. Professional wrestlers are the role models in which we should teach our children to emulate. Wrestlers and police officers...and Leona Helmsley....and Hermann Goering.

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    (CNN)New York's Metropolitan Opera suspended former music director James Levine on Sunday pending an internal investigation into multiple allegations of sexual misconduct against the famed conductor.

    The New York Times reported that three men had come forward to accuse Levine, now 74, of sexually abusing them decades ago, including during the early period of his conducting career at the Met.CNN has attempted to reach Levine and his manager, Tim Fox, but has not yet heard back. The New York Times says that when, "told of the accusations, a spokesman for Mr. Levine did not comment on Sunday night."The Met said on Saturday that it had engaged outside resources to determine if allegations are true. In the meantime, the prestigious performing arts center said it had canceled Levine's scheduled performances, including a highly anticipated new production of Puccini's "Tosca" starting New Year's Eve.
      "While we await the results of the investigation, based on these new news reports, the Met has made the decision to act now," said Peter Gelb, Met General Manager. "This is a tragedy for anyone whose life has been affected."The news drew the rarified world of classical music into the ongoing national conversation over sexual violence.

      Levine stepped down as the Met's music director in 2016 due to health problems. But, starting New Year's Eve, he was scheduled to lead a new production of the opera with which he made his Met debut in 1971, Puccini's "Tosca." Since his debut, he has conducted nearly 2,500 performances of 85 different operas with the company, in addition to performing and holding positions with other companies and musical organizations.

      His achievements made him the subject of a Time magazine cover story in 1983 and Musical America's "Musician of the Year" in 1984. He was featured in two documentaries in 1986 and 2011 on PBS's American Masters series, according to his biography on his talent agency's website.From 1973 to 1993, he was music director of the Ravinia Festival, summer home to the Chicago Symphony Orchestra, where one of his accusers told the New York Times he met Levine in 1985. The man said he was 15 and Levine was 40 when the abuse began, according to the paper. 

      CNN has not been able to independently confirm the allegations.Gelb told the New York Times that the allegations first came to the company's attention in 2016, when police in Illinois opened an investigation into one of the men's claims after he filed a police report. "At the time Jim said that the charges were completely false, and we didn't hear anything further from the police," Gelb said.The Boston Symphony Orchestra, where Levine was music director from 2004 to 2011, said on Sunday that its management "was never approached by anyone in connection with inappropriate behavior" from Levine. The company said it followed a due diligence process, including a "personal and professional review" of all aspects of his candidacy, before moving ahead with his appointment."The Boston Symphony Orchestra is committed to a zero tolerance policy towards anyone who exhibits sexual harassment behavior in the workplace. All of us at BSO remain vigilant in our commitment to fight against all types of inappropriate and offensive behavior, and to continue the essential work of creating a safe and supportive environment," according to a statement."Behavior by any employee of the BSO that runs counter to these core values and beliefs would not be tolerated and would be met with the most serious consequences."

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      I watch Mozart in the Jungle. Lots of shit going on there.

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      KGB wrote: Jesus, I wish I'd listened to the sanctimonious SJW's on the FAN590 yesterday to hear how chastened they are over the news that one of their coworkers could be such a cad!  I'm sure there was the requisite hand wringing and concern expressed for, well not just the women involved because that wouldn't White Knight enough, but all human beings everywhere who did, do, or may in the future identify as a female.
      Anything that gets Zaun off my TV I'm all for it.  guy single handedly made sportsnet coverage unwatchable.
      Should also add I know a news runner at TSN.   Zaun has/had a rep.  A really bad one.  Think Louis CK.  

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      broke wrote: KGB wrote: Jesus, I wish I'd listened to the sanctimonious SJW's on the FAN590 yesterday to hear how chastened they are over the news that one of their coworkers could be such a cad!  I'm sure there was the requisite hand wringing and concern expressed for, well not just the women involved because that wouldn't White Knight enough, but all human beings everywhere who did, do, or may in the future identify as a female.
      Anything that gets Zaun off my TV I'm all for it.  guy single handedly made sportsnet coverage unwatchable.
      Should also add I know a news runner at TSN.   Zaun has/had a rep.  A really bad one.  Think Louis CK.  

      Reports were circulated that David Cone wanted to interview for the Yankees managerial job but they wouldn't even let him.  I wonder if his own Louie CK past had anything to do with that.  Even though he put all that behind him decades ago, it certainly might've been brought up again given the timing of everything going on. 

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      Trump officially endorsed Moore today. And his reasoning was that Moore was needed to vote for the new tax bill.

      He did this so that the child molester could support a Republican tax plan which takes money from cops, firemen, and nurses...and gives it to Goldman Sachs. He calls this "draining the swamp."

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      Netflix has fired actor Danny Masterson, accused of rape by several women, from its original sitcom The Ranch. But when the second half of season two drops on Netflix on December 15, Masterson will still be present in all 10 of those episodes, sources at Netflix have confirmed.

      What’s more, he’ll likely be in at least some of the episodes airing in 2018, when the show’s third season will drop in two chunks. (The Ranch tends to debut its 20-episode seasons in two parts, with one part airing in the first half of the year and the second part airing six months later.) Despite the high-profile firing of Masterson, actually replacing or removing him from the series at this point would be all but impossible, especially for the episodes airing December 15, which have been completed for some time.

      But even above and beyond the time element, The Ranch is a multi-camera sitcom, which means it would be essentially impossible to do reshoots with a new actor, as has happened with Christopher Plummer taking over a role from Kevin Spacey in the film All the Money in the World — reshoots completed in a matter of weeks.
      Multi-camera sitcoms are presented like tiny stage plays, in front of an audience, with multiple angles to capture as many different shots at the same time as possible. (ThinkThe Big Bang Theory.) Thus, reshooting Masterson’s scenes would essentially mean reshooting the episodes very nearly in their entirety, something no production company, not even one with pockets as deep as Netflix, would do.

      What’s more, the fact that the show has already been renewed for an in-production third season makes it harder for Netflix to simply walk away from The Ranch. It was easier for the streaming service to announce it would no longer have anything to do with Kevin Spacey on House of Cards because that show had just begun production of its sixth season when accusations against Spacey became public. The Ranch is deep into production on its 20-episode third season.

      Netflix hasn’t yet revealed how it plans to move forward with The Ranch without Masterson, though it still has more of the show’s third season to produce. But because of the show’s staggered release schedule and a variety of other factors, Masterson’s firing won’t be noticeable to viewers until well into 2018.

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      (NEW YORK) — The top editor for the National Enquirer, Us Weekly and other major gossip publications openly described his sexual partners in the newsroom, discussed female employees’ sex lives and forced women to watch or listen to pornographic material, former employees told The Associated Press.
      The behavior by Dylan Howard, currently the chief content officer of American Media Inc., occurred while he was running the company’s Los Angeles office, according to men and women who worked there. Howard’s self-proclaimed nickname was “Dildo,” a phallus-shaped sex toy, the former employees said. His conduct led to an internal inquiry in 2012 by an outside consultant, and former employees said he stopped working out of the L.A. office after the inquiry.
      Howard quit soon after the report was completed, but the company rehired him one year later with a promotion that landed him in the company’s main office in New York. It was not clear whether Howard faced any discipline over the accusations. AP is not aware of any sexual harassment allegations involving Howard since he was rehired.


      The AP spoke with 12 former employees who knew about the investigation into Howard’s behavior, though not all were aware of every detail. The outside investigator hired to examine complaints about Howard’s behavior also confirmed to AP that he completed a report.
      In a brief phone interview with the AP, Howard characterized the ex-employees’ claims as “baseless.”
      A lawyer for American Media confirmed Tuesday that an outside investigator was hired to look into two employees’ claims about Howard’s behavior.
      The lawyer, Cam Stracher, said the investigation did not show serious wrongdoing. Stracher confirmed that one employee had complained that Howard said he wanted to create a Facebook account for her vagina, but Stracher said Howard said that never happened.
      “It was determined that there was some what you would call as horsing around outside the office, going to bars and things that are not uncommon in the media business,” Stracher said, “but none of it rose to the level of harassment that would require termination.”


      American Media publishes the National Enquirer, RadarOnline, Star and other gossip publications and websites. In March the company purchased the glossy Us Weekly magazine for a reported $100 million, significantly boosting its readership among women.
      In his job, Howard oversees those newsrooms.
      AMI spokesman Jon Hammond described the two employees who had formally complained about Howard’s alleged behavior as “disgruntled.”
      “The investigation described an environment where employees mixed socially outside the office — sometimes at bars — but found no direct support for the allegations of harassment made by the two complainants,” Hammond said in an email.
      Most of the former employees spoke to the AP on condition of anonymity because they had signed nondisclosure agreements, sometimes as part of severance packages.


      Two former employees, one a senior manager and another a reporter in the L.A. office, agreed to be publicly identified to discuss Howard’s behavior.
      “The behavior that Dylan displayed and the way he was and the way the company dealt with it — I just think that it has to be made public because it’s completely unacceptable,” said Maxine “Max” Page, a former senior editor at RadarOnline. She complained to the human resources department about Howard’s behavior on behalf of two female reporters.
      Howard made inappropriate comments to and about one of those women, Page and six other ex-employees said. Howard told employees in the newsroom he wanted to create a Facebook account on behalf of the woman’s vagina, commented on her sex life and forced her and other female employees to either watch or listen to graphic recordings of sex involving celebrities despite there being no professional rationale for doing so, they said.


      A former senior editor recalled Howard wrongly claimed during a newsroom meeting that the woman had had sex with a journalism source and praised her for it, saying she needed to “do what you need” to get a story.
      The editor said: “He encouraged her to have sex with people for information.”
      The woman Howard was discussing confirmed these and other incidents to the AP but declined to be identified.
      Page and four other employees recounted instances in which Howard talked about his own sexual exploits, including descriptions of his partners’ physical attributes.
      Stracher, the company lawyer, said no one interviewed by the outside investigator complained about Howard’s handling of pornographic material. Stracher said there was nothing inherently inappropriate about that in the celebrity news business.


      Stracher also said no one complained to the investigator about Howard’s alleged encouragement of a reporter to sleep with news sources.
      Another former reporter, Liz Crokin, said she was also harassed by Howard, including once when he asked whether she was “going to be walking the streets tonight” on a day she wore heels to work.
      Page and Crokin, like many of the other former employees who spoke to AP, were laid off by the company during waves of downsizing at AMI. The others who left the company said they did so by choice.
      American Media regularly asked exiting employees to sign nondisclosure agreements that prohibit them from disclosing confidential information or disparaging company executives.
      Many of the former employees who described Howard’s behavior said they decided to do so after the New Yorker and other news organizations published emails in recent weeks showing that Howard had worked with movie producer Harvey Weinstein to undermine allegations of sexual misconduct by Weinstein.


      The emails showed that Howard had dispatched a reporter to uncover derogatory information about an actress who had accused Weinstein of rape, and then shared that information with Weinstein. Howard has said he pursued the information as part of due diligence before entering into a business relationship with Weinstein. Weinstein, who has denied allegations of non-consensual sex, has maintained he was passing along a news tip to Howard that was never published.
      After the 2012 investigation into Howard’s conduct in Los Angeles, two of the ex-employees said they were told by a manager that Howard was barred from the Los Angeles office. The employees said he worked from home after that. Stracher, the company lawyer, said Howard was given no such order to stay away from the office.


      Shortly after the report was issued, Howard took a new job with another company.
      It’s unclear what the report concluded or whether Howard faced any disciplinary action.
      The AP was unable to obtain a copy of the report. Its author, Philip Deming, confirmed he wrote a report but said he could not talk about what he found or the recommendations he made.
      Page, the manager whose complaint prompted the company to hire Deming, said she was skeptical the company properly investigated Howard’s behavior.
      Deming said he produced a 25- to 35-page report with 18 exhibits, and interviewed between 15 and 20 employees. He declined to describe his findings without AMI’s authorization. Stracher, the company lawyer, declined to release the report.
      Deming said he was not aware that American Media re-hired Howard a year after his report.


      “I did have recommendations and I don’t know what happened after those recommendations were made,” he said.
      Stracher said Howard was “cautioned when he returned that what I would characterize as horsing around was not appropriate.”
      Howard openly discussed the investigation with some reporters and editors, one former employee said. A January 2012, email provided to the AP by another former employee said, “There is an investigation going on of my boss right now and it’s made everyone awkward and uncomfortable. You could cut the tension with a knife.”
      Crokin, the former reporter, said she believed Howard retaliated against her after Deming interviewed her, taking away serious work and assigning her menial tasks. She was laid off a short time later.


      The company lawyer, Stracher, said any employees who witnessed or had concerns about Howard’s behavior should have raised them at that time.
      Another ex-employee who was interviewed by Deming recalled being anxious about speaking with the HR consultant.
      “I told the investigator I didn’t know anything,” said the former employee, acknowledging that answer was not true. “It’s almost like I had Stockholm syndrome.”
      Yet another former employee, who said she was present when Howard showed a handful of reporters pornography that was not newsworthy, said Deming never interviewed her.
      Howard, 35, came to the U.S. in 2009, months after being fired from a sports reporting job in Australian television news, following a police investigation about how he had obtained athletes’ medical records. Police did not bring charges against him. He was then hired by Australian broadcaster Craig Hutchison’s CrocMedia to report in the United States.


      In a recent podcast, Hutchison praised Howard’s talent but said he quickly parted with Howard under rocky circumstances.
      “His methods make me uncomfortable, that’s probably the best way to put it,” Hutchison said.
      Howard then began working for American Media Inc. in Los Angeles.
      During his time there, Howard blurred the lines between his role as a manager and his personal life, throwing parties in Las Vegas and in Malibu, inviting female reporters to accompany him in the evenings and regularly discussing his late-night partying in the newsroom, six former employees said.
      For his 30th birthday party, Howard invited a dozen employees to Las Vegas in January 2012 for an all-expenses-paid, three-day party he dubbed “Dildo’s Dirty 30,” according to a copy of the professionally designed invitation obtained by the AP.
      A week later, ex-employees said, Deming, the HR consultant, began conducting interviews.

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      Singer Melanie Martinez, who rose to fame competing on season three of NBC’s “The Voice,” has been accused by a former friend of sexual assault. The alleged incident was detailed by Timothy Heller, herself an aspiring musician, who, in a four-part tweet, recounted a night during which she “repeatedly said no” to Martinez’s sexual advances. Heller accuses Martinez of forceful penetration with a sex toy, among other acts.
      The Los Angeles-based Heller posted the tweet just before 3 p.m. local time. Within eight hours, it was retweeted more than 50,000 times.
      Martinez and Heller appear to have a friendship that dates back to 2015, judging by images on social media platforms.

      At 11:30 p.m. Martinez posted a response on her own Twitter, writing, “I am horrified and saddened by the statements and story told by Timothy Heller. What she and I shared was a close friendship … We tried to help each other. We both had pain in dealing with our individual demons… She never said no to what we chose to do together. And although we parted ways, I am sending her love and light always.”

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      Peter Martins, the artistic director of New York City Ballet and an instructor at School of American Ballet, has been accused of sexual harassment, and suspended from teaching his weekly class at the school, according to a new report.

      According to an article in the New York Times, Martins has been accused of harassment in an anonymous letter. Both NYCB and the school told that publication that the allegations in the letter had not yet been substantiated but that the “safety and well-being of our students is our absolute priority.” (Variety has contacted both City Ballet and the school for further comment.)

      According to the report, the letter contained no specifics about the accusations against Martins, who has has been the artistic director of City Ballet since 1989. News of the investigation comes soon after the suspension of conductor James Levine at the Metropolitan Opera, another organization that performs on the Lincoln Center campus in New York City.


      The accusations come amidst a wave of investigations and accusations into entertainment industry figures including Harvey Weinstein, Charlie Rose, and Matt Lauer, among many others. On stage in New York, the playwright Israel Horovitz was accused of sexual abuse and harassment by nine women.

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      With American film producer Harvey Weinstein who was slapped with sexual allegations sometime back and, soon afterwards, followed by actor Kavin Spacey and Oscar winning Geoffrey Rush also being accused of ‘inappropriate behavior,' recently - it seems all’s not well with the entertainment industry.

      And now, according to the latest reports by The Guardian, playwright and director Israel Horovitz is another one in the dock, with not one but nine women accusing the American actor of sexual misconduct, leading to his departure from the Gloucester Stage Company.

      This Massachusetts-based theatre has confronted the director, who was also the founding artistic director of the theatre, after the reports were published in one of the leading dailies. The allegations against the playwright include from non-consensual touch to rape.

      In fact, if reports are to be believed, Israel Horovitz was also accused of similar allegations earlier but at that time the theatre, probably, defended him and helped him come through clean. But this time, with almost nine women accusing him of the sexual misconduct, even the actor’s son Adam Horovitz, better known for his band Beastie Boys, decided to side with women who have accused his father of this ‘inappropriate’ behavior.

      To go by the reports, it’s after the revelation about Harvey and other such biggies, lately, that led these nine women, come forefront and file a complaint against a veteran from the industry.

      Surely, time to clean up the act!

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      Time Magazine's Person of the Year has gone to the #MeToo movement, which Time described as “the individuals who set off a national reckoning over the prevalence of sexual harassment".  It's actually the best choice given that this is the biggest and widest-ranging story of the year.

      Time's cover story will highlight the incidents of everyone from Taylor Swift and Ashley Judd to a former engineer at Uber and a Mexican woman who picks strawberries for a living.      

      The #MeToo girls beat out such luminaries as Donald Trump (last year's winner), Kim Jong-un, Robert Mueller, Colin Kaepernick, and Jeff Bezos. 

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      There's mountain pressure for Franken to resign. If the Republicans push this, they'd be absolutely stupid. They need him in the Senate so they can always point to him when Dems get on their high horse about Trump.

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      He's got a press conference scheduled for tomorrow, he's gone..

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      I think he's done:

      https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/06/us/politics/franken-harrassment-resign.html

      I will say this, Republicans sure are more loyal.  They'll come right out and say that they don't care if you murder and rape a family of 12, they want your vote.  If a Democrat jaywalks, there are internal calls for resignation followed by months of tearful apologies.  I actually thought Franken was going to survive this until today. 

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      No way could Conyers go and Franken stay.

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      Yea, can't believe Franken thinks he could survive this. The GOP analogy is Barton. Caught red handed and has to quit.

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      I just want to point out that when Franken's good friend Bill Maher made that "house nigger" joke, trying to mock Republicans, Franken shoved him under the bus so quick with the same hands he used to grope dozens of women. He cancelled his upcoming appearance on his show and hasn't been back since. And this from not only someone who Maher always supported politically, but from a former comedian who should know the difference between racism and a bad joke. Liberals will always eat their own. Franken enjoyed his meal, and now it's his turn to get devoured. I don't feel bad for him even a little bit.

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      Here's the person all this started with regarding Franken.  Context is everything, but it looks like there was a lot of ass grinding and groping on these USO tours.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJidGI-NMd0

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      dr_papufnik wrote: Here's the person all this started with regarding Franken.  Context is everything, but it looks like there was a lot of ass grinding and groping on these USO tours.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJidGI-NMd0

      If that was the only allegation, he would've survived.  We all know she had a political axe to grind there.  But 2 things: 1) Franken can't just say the boob picture was just a joke when he's condemned other comedians for stupid jokes and 2) all the claims about ass-grabbing during photo ops that have come out since paint a pretty pathetic picture of this guy, and they can't all be misunderstandings.

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      Todays guy who gets slapped with sexual harrasment is......
      Warren Moon

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      Benlen wrote: Todays guy who gets slapped with sexual harrasment is......
      Warren Moon

      He has a pretty spotty past with women.

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      Wendy Haskell is pretty hot

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      Al Frankin officially announced his resignation within the next few weeks. 

      My useless senator, Kirsten Gillibrand, who got the ball rolling on Frankin's exile from the Democrats with a scathing Facebook post yesterday, is now taking it further and saying that Bill Clinton should've been forced to resign the presidency for his affair with Monica Lewinsky.  She campaigned with Clinton last year and there are tons of pics of her out there smiling while Clinton has his arms wrapped around her.

      Not sure what she's hoping to accomplish with these comments.  She's being crucified by her liberal constituents right now, and it's not like Republicans are going to stop calling her a hypocrite for her hysterical 20-year track rtecord of...well, hypocrisy.  If this is a calculated risk to raise her national profile and make her a contender to win the Democratic presidential nomination in 2020, well I don't know how well that's going to work for her.  But she's sure angling for something and burning down the party in the process.  I absolutely love the chaos.  I'm roasting marshmallows watching it burn.

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      beejmi wrote: Wendy Haskell is pretty hot

      She's from Buffalo. I've met her.

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      srossi wrote: Al Frankin officially announced his resignation within the next few weeks. 

      My useless senator, Kirsten Gillibrand, who got the ball rolling on Frankin's exile from the Democrats with a scathing Facebook post yesterday, is now taking it further and saying that Bill Clinton should've been forced to resign the presidency for his affair with Monica Lewinsky.  She campaigned with Clinton last year and there are tons of pics of her out there smiling while Clinton has his arms wrapped around her.

      Not sure what she's hoping to accomplish with these comments.  She's being crucified by her liberal constituents right now, and it's not like Republicans are going to stop calling her a hypocrite for her hysterical 20-year track rtecord of...well, hypocrisy.  If this is a calculated risk to raise her national profile and make her a contender to win the Democratic presidential nomination in 2020, well I don't know how well that's going to work for her.  But she's sure angling for something and burning down the party in the process.  I absolutely love the chaos.  I'm roasting marshmallows watching it burn.

      Calling her useless is polite. She's phonier than Schumer. Immediately flip flopped on everything in order to get appointed to her spot.

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      She isn't even bothering to hide her hypocrisy. Trump can only pray that she or Warren are the Dem's nominee.

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      Arizona GOP Rep. Trent Franks

      http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/07/politics/trent-franks-resigns/index.html

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      Well, at least the resignations today are bi-partisan.

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      GOP Texas Rep. Blake Farenthold facing an investigation for using taxpayer dollars to settle a sexual harassment case.  We need another Democrat to go down today to keep the score even.

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      The whole surrogate thing is a new twist

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      MadFrogVachon wrote: The whole surrogate thing is a new twist
      I would've loved to have heard how those conversations actually went down.  Common sense says you don't even ask someone you work for something so ridiculously personal, especially when there are women out there volunteering to be surrogates.  But if the conversations were as innocent as some claim, I just feel sorry for him and this is far from sexual harassment.  You have to be smart enough to know that you don't put colleagues or subordinates in that type of uncomfortable situation though.  It's not like you're asking to borrow a stapler.  No one at work wants to hear about your frigid wife or erectile dysfunction or whatever you got going on, and no one wants to be stuck carrying the boss' baby for 9 months, or be put in a situation where you have to tell your boss that he's nuts and you're not interested.  There are plenty of ways for a couple with that type of money to find a surrogate through proper channels, one who's healthy and has gone through the background and medical checks.

      But yeah, part of me still thinks he just approached a bunch of women and said, "Let me splatter you with my baby batter bitch."   

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      A Senator counts the same as 2 Congressman.

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      X-men Director Bryan Singer

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      Hollywood and Washington. A ton of job openings. The fever will break but it's gonna be a while.

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      broke wrote: X-men Director Bryan Singer
      Accused of raping a 17-year old boy in 2003.  Is he out of the closet or is this news? 

      Singer was just fired days ago from the Freddy Mercury biopic "Bohemian Rhapsody" after going AWOL from the set for a month (claiming that he had to care for an ailing parent), but I would be surprised now if it didn't turn out that this was the reason for his absence and then termination.

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      Today's accused........Celebrity Chef Mario Batali

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      #METOO

      I would like to come out and say that Rossi touched me through the zipper of my jeans but over my jockey shorts when he invited me over to his house to watch a Kerry Von Erich compilation tape. He got me all hepped up on goofballs and I had no idea what happened from there. I've learned to live with the realization that I'm not a slut. I've learned to love people again. I've learned to love me again. I forgive you Mr. Rossi. But I'm turning you into the NYPD so this doesn't happen again to any other wrestling fan who like Kerry Von Erich.

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      WongLee wrote:

      I've learned to live with the realization that I'm not a slut. 
       Wrong

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      Donovan McNabb & Marshall Faulk



      Former Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb is mentioned in a lawsuit alleging sexual harassment at the NFL Network.
      McNabb, along with former NFL players Ike Taylor, Marshall Faulk and Heath Evans, is being accused of sexual harassment by a former NFL Network stylist, bloomberg.com reported. Taylor, Faulk and Evans have been suspended from their duties as NFL Network on-air personalities.
      NFL Network suspended the three men on Monday night in response to a lawsuit filed against NFL Enterprises in Los Angeles Superior Court by Jami Cantor.
      "Marshall Faulk, Ike Taylor and Heath Evans have been suspended from their duties at NFL Network pending an investigation into these allegations," an NFL Network spokesperson said in a statement to SI.com.


      In addition to McNabb, former NFL Network executive producer Eric Weinberger was also mentioned in the complaint. Neither NcNabb or Weinberger works at NFL Network now.
      Cantor was fired in October 2016 and filed her case against NFL Enterprises in October, claiming wrongful termination. Her allegations of being groped and subjected to sexually explicit comments, texts and photos are part of an amended complaint filed on Monday.


      McNabb, the former Eaglesquarterback, was previously employed at NFL Network and has most recently worked as an analyst for ESPN. According to the complaint, via the bloomberg report, McNabb texted Cantor explicit comments.

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      WongLee wrote: #METOO

      I would like to come out and say that Rossi touched me through the zipper of my jeans but over my jockey shorts when he invited me over to his house to watch a Kerry Von Erich compilation tape. He got me all hepped up on goofballs and I had no idea what happened from there. I've learned to live with the realization that I'm not a slut. I've learned to love people again. I've learned to love me again. I forgive you Mr. Rossi. But I'm turning you into the NYPD so this doesn't happen again to any other wrestling fan who like Kerry Von Erich.

      There were no goofballs sir, only the love that two men share for good old-fashioned Texas rasslin involving muscular men with a touch of Downs syndrome.  Whatever happened after that was beyond both of our control.   

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      There were rumors that McNabb was a serial cheater even when his wife was pregnant with twins. Not a shock that a QB would do that. Never heard anything about harassment although he probably did by today's standards.

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      lobo316 wrote: Donovan McNabb & Marshall Faulk



      Former Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb is mentioned in a lawsuit alleging sexual harassment at the NFL Network.
      McNabb, along with former NFL players Ike Taylor, Marshall Faulk and Heath Evans, is being accused of sexual harassment by a former NFL Network stylist, bloomberg.com reported. Taylor, Faulk and Evans have been suspended from their duties as NFL Network on-air personalities.
      NFL Network suspended the three men on Monday night in response to a lawsuit filed against NFL Enterprises in Los Angeles Superior Court by Jami Cantor.
      "Marshall Faulk, Ike Taylor and Heath Evans have been suspended from their duties at NFL Network pending an investigation into these allegations," an NFL Network spokesperson said in a statement to SI.com.


      In addition to McNabb, former NFL Network executive producer Eric Weinberger was also mentioned in the complaint. Neither NcNabb or Weinberger works at NFL Network now.
      Cantor was fired in October 2016 and filed her case against NFL Enterprises in October, claiming wrongful termination. Her allegations of being groped and subjected to sexually explicit comments, texts and photos are part of an amended complaint filed on Monday.


      McNabb, the former Eaglesquarterback, was previously employed at NFL Network and has most recently worked as an analyst for ESPN. According to the complaint, via the bloomberg report, McNabb texted Cantor explicit comments.


      Sounds like she was the office ho and her hoing didn't get her anywhere

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      Benlen wrote: Today's accused........Celebrity Chef Mario Batali
      Mario Batali admitted everything and gave the greatest quote in any of these apologies when he basically said that even though the accusations are anonymous he knows he did it because it sounds like a lot of stuff he's done.  That's just fantastic. 

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      When do we reach the point where almost everyone stops giving a shit or have we already reached it?

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      Why should we stop caring? So many of these have come out as verifiable or admitted.

      Shouldn't we hold people to better standards? I have a daughter, I'm hoping that by doing this now, that as she ages, it's not something she has to worry about.

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      Samantha Fox accusing David Cassidy before the body gets too cold.

      I do love the media narrative acting like only men in positions of power do this. Because there isn't thread after thread here of female teachers playing "Hide the Sausage in my Mouth" with students.

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      DaNkinator wrote: Why should we stop caring? So many of these have come out as verifiable or admitted.

      Shouldn't we hold people to better standards? I have a daughter, I'm hoping that by doing this now, that as she ages, it's not something she has to worry about.
      I understand but these things always go too far.  

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      DaNkinator wrote: Why should we stop caring? So many of these have come out as verifiable or admitted.

      Shouldn't we hold people to better standards? I have a daughter, I'm hoping that by doing this now, that as she ages, it's not something she has to worry about.

      For the most part, your daughter is pretty safe anyway.  So many of these accusations are 5-10 years old that it's just ridiculous.  And yes - times have changed a lot in those 5-10 years.  Things that were overlooked and considered even normal aren't anymore.  Is sexual harrassment a *current* problem?  I really don't think so, because so many people are afraid to do anything these days.  Five years ago, not anywhere near as much.

      I am far from being political.  But the last election changed a lot of shit...people that you knew before Trump was elected won't talk to you if they know you are a Trump supporter.  I have a 24 year old niece and a 22 year old niece that are sisters, and of course, one supported Hillary and the other supported Trump.  They are still sisters, they still talk, everything is great.  But whenever politics is brought up (and to their credit, neither of them bring it up), the Trump supporter is a clueless moron and the Hillary supporter is just jealous and stupid.  What does that have to do with any of this?  I truly believe that a lot of the sexual harrassment claims are being made by people still butthurt about the election results, because they see that it's working and hurting other people.  They are tired of hurting, so they are turning it on the others.  I don't condone sexual harrassment, rape, etc.  But you know as well as I do that some of these claims are borderline.  People that you considered your friend and you screwed around back and forth with all of a sudden decided that it wasn't cool even though for years it didn't matter to them.

      Mind you...Louis CK pulling out his cock and jerking off in front of women is not borderline!

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      Superstar wrote: DaNkinator wrote: Why should we stop caring? So many of these have come out as verifiable or admitted.

      Shouldn't we hold people to better standards? I have a daughter, I'm hoping that by doing this now, that as she ages, it's not something she has to worry about.

      For the most part, your daughter is pretty safe anyway.  So many of these accusations are 5-10 years old that it's just ridiculous.  And yes - times have changed a lot in those 5-10 years.  Things that were overlooked and considered even normal aren't anymore.  Is sexual harrassment a *current* problem?  I really don't think so, because so many people are afraid to do anything these days.  Five years ago, not anywhere near as much.

      I am far from being political.  But the last election changed a lot of shit...people that you knew before Trump was elected won't talk to you if they know you are a Trump supporter.  I have a 24 year old niece and a 22 year old niece that are sisters, and of course, one supported Hillary and the other supported Trump.  They are still sisters, they still talk, everything is great.  But whenever politics is brought up (and to their credit, neither of them bring it up), the Trump supporter is a clueless moron and the Hillary supporter is just jealous and stupid.  What does that have to do with any of this?  I truly believe that a lot of the sexual harrassment claims are being made by people still butthurt about the election results, because they see that it's working and hurting other people.  They are tired of hurting, so they are turning it on the others.  I don't condone sexual harrassment, rape, etc.  But you know as well as I do that some of these claims are borderline.  People that you considered your friend and you screwed around back and forth with all of a sudden decided that it wasn't cool even though for years it didn't matter to them.

      Mind you...Louis CK pulling out his cock and jerking off in front of women is not borderline!
      Didn't see anything wrong with that!:)

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      Superstar wrote: DaNkinator wrote: Why should we stop caring? So many of these have come out as verifiable or admitted.

      Shouldn't we hold people to better standards? I have a daughter, I'm hoping that by doing this now, that as she ages, it's not something she has to worry about.

      For the most part, your daughter is pretty safe anyway.  So many of these accusations are 5-10 years old that it's just ridiculous.  And yes - times have changed a lot in those 5-10 years.  Things that were overlooked and considered even normal aren't anymore.  Is sexual harrassment a *current* problem?  I really don't think so, because so many people are afraid to do anything these days.  Five years ago, not anywhere near as much.

      I am far from being political.  But the last election changed a lot of shit...people that you knew before Trump was elected won't talk to you if they know you are a Trump supporter.  I have a 24 year old niece and a 22 year old niece that are sisters, and of course, one supported Hillary and the other supported Trump.  They are still sisters, they still talk, everything is great.  But whenever politics is brought up (and to their credit, neither of them bring it up), the Trump supporter is a clueless moron and the Hillary supporter is just jealous and stupid.  What does that have to do with any of this?  I truly believe that a lot of the sexual harrassment claims are being made by people still butthurt about the election results, because they see that it's working and hurting other people.  They are tired of hurting, so they are turning it on the others.  I don't condone sexual harrassment, rape, etc.  But you know as well as I do that some of these claims are borderline.  People that you considered your friend and you screwed around back and forth with all of a sudden decided that it wasn't cool even though for years it didn't matter to them.

      Mind you...Louis CK pulling out his cock and jerking off in front of women is not borderline!

      I can see some of the point that you're attempting to make, but when I see that people continue to try to rationalize this type of behavior, I don't buy that it's not happening still.  It's happening.  And it will continue to happen as long as we try to excuse it away.

      Especially as our very own POTUS does it in bold words on Twitter for eternity to see, as he did today.  


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      FOX News is projecting that Doug Jones has scored the monumental upset over Roy Moore in Alabama. This is the first time Alabama has gone Democrat in 25 years and it’s 100% because of the sex scandals. Alabama’s other Republican Senator Richard Shelby dropped a bombshell when he announced that he didn’t vote for Moore shortly after the polls opened (he likely voted third party).

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      DaNkinator wrote: 
      I can see some of the point that you're attempting to make, but when I see that people continue to try to rationalize this type of behavior, I don't buy that it's not happening still.  It's happening.  And it will continue to happen as long as we try to excuse it away.



      I think the issue is more that a simple accusation results in immediate suspension/firing from job/etc. without any real investigation or "due process" so to speak.
      I do realize that is the norm now, but it inadvertently makes it a lot harder to take the accusations seriously (in terms of sympathizing with the alleged victim) when you see the accused immediately turfed from their job and your thoughts go to how...unfair?...that seems.
      Add to that how many are coming out right now with these accusations and the overwhelming volume keeps the ability to separate them limited. That does nobody any favours.
      The court of public opinion always permanently convicts, innocent or guilty, once the charge is leveled. But, even if every single one of these turns out to be true, I hate the idea that a woman (or a man I suppose) with an agenda could basically get this done to almost anyone, anytime.
      That should scare people, but I don't think it does.

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      DaNkinator wrote: Superstar wrote: DaNkinator wrote: Why should we stop caring? So many of these have come out as verifiable or admitted.

      Shouldn't we hold people to better standards? I have a daughter, I'm hoping that by doing this now, that as she ages, it's not something she has to worry about.

      For the most part, your daughter is pretty safe anyway.  So many of these accusations are 5-10 years old that it's just ridiculous.  And yes - times have changed a lot in those 5-10 years.  Things that were overlooked and considered even normal aren't anymore.  Is sexual harrassment a *current* problem?  I really don't think so, because so many people are afraid to do anything these days.  Five years ago, not anywhere near as much.

      I am far from being political.  But the last election changed a lot of shit...people that you knew before Trump was elected won't talk to you if they know you are a Trump supporter.  I have a 24 year old niece and a 22 year old niece that are sisters, and of course, one supported Hillary and the other supported Trump.  They are still sisters, they still talk, everything is great.  But whenever politics is brought up (and to their credit, neither of them bring it up), the Trump supporter is a clueless moron and the Hillary supporter is just jealous and stupid.  What does that have to do with any of this?  I truly believe that a lot of the sexual harrassment claims are being made by people still butthurt about the election results, because they see that it's working and hurting other people.  They are tired of hurting, so they are turning it on the others.  I don't condone sexual harrassment, rape, etc.  But you know as well as I do that some of these claims are borderline.  People that you considered your friend and you screwed around back and forth with all of a sudden decided that it wasn't cool even though for years it didn't matter to them.

      Mind you...Louis CK pulling out his cock and jerking off in front of women is not borderline!

      I can see some of the point that you're attempting to make, but when I see that people continue to try to rationalize this type of behavior, I don't buy that it's not happening still.  It's happening.  And it will continue to happen as long as we try to excuse it away.

      Especially as our very own POTUS does it in bold words on Twitter for eternity to see, as he did today.  



      I'm not trying to rationalize the behavior, I'm trying to point out that it's nowhere near as prevalent as it was even five years ago.  And yes, the President has done it too.  And I would bet that most of his predecessors did at one point or another too.  My point, as a father of two boys, is that I don't think your daughter is growing up in a society that will be accepting to the behavior and in fact has already pushed the correction button far too many times to the point that we've over-corrected this.  Morons that did stupid things years ago shouldn't be punished for this, but they deserve to be shamed and pointed out. 

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      khawk wrote: DaNkinator wrote: 
      I can see some of the point that you're attempting to make, but when I see that people continue to try to rationalize this type of behavior, I don't buy that it's not happening still.  It's happening.  And it will continue to happen as long as we try to excuse it away.



      I think the issue is more that a simple accusation results in immediate suspension/firing from job/etc. without any real investigation or "due process" so to speak.
      I do realize that is the norm now, but it inadvertently makes it a lot harder to take the accusations seriously (in terms of sympathizing with the alleged victim) when you see the accused immediately turfed from their job and your thoughts go to how...unfair?...that seems.
      Add to that how many are coming out right now with these accusations and the overwhelming volume keeps the ability to separate them limited. That does nobody any favours.
      The court of public opinion always permanently convicts, innocent or guilty, once the charge is leveled. But, even if every single one of these turns out to be true, I hate the idea that a woman (or a man I suppose) with an agenda could basically get this done to almost anyone, anytime.
      That should scare people, but I don't think it does.

      This is absolutely correct and it's going to trickle down and effect us all eventually, but as far as 90%+ of these celebrity scandals go, they're almost all immediately admitting to all or at least some of the accusations.  And even when they don't, like Roy Moore, they say enough to dig their own grave and make it clear that they're at least partially guilty.  The only one really fighting hard who was fired is Danny Masterson, and for his sake, and maybe everyone else's, I hope he exonerates himself.  But it's hard to feel sorry for people who throw their hands up and confess to everything before the accusers can even finish their sentence. 

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      True enough. Hopefully it allows for pause in people when some of the future accused stop and fight the accusation.

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      Tavis Smiley

      http://thehill.com/homenews/media/364813-pbs-suspends-host-tavis-smiley-amid-sexual-misconduct-allegations

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      From that article:
      "Variety reports that the law firm MSK was hired by PBS and "took reports from 10 witnesses, a mix of men and women of different races and employment levels in Smiley’s organization, most of them former staffers," who claim he fostered a hostile work climate while verbally abusing his employees, according to the report."
      No mention about the specifics of a sexual misconduct complaint, reads more like he is just an asshole boss. 
      Not saying it's not there but I would hope there would be at least some mention of what the sexual misconduct part is...and if there isn't any and he was just a verbally abusive boss, then the net has just been cast wider and possibly been misnamed. 
      That's a weird way to note "sexual misconduct".

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      khawk wrote: From that article:
      "Variety reports that the law firm MSK was hired by PBS and "took reports from 10 witnesses, a mix of men and women of different races and employment levels in Smiley’s organization, most of them former staffers," who claim he fostered a hostile work climate while verbally abusing his employees, according to the report."
      No mention about the specifics of a sexual misconduct complaint, reads more like he is just an asshole boss. 
      Not saying it's not there but I would hope there would be at least some mention of what the sexual misconduct part is...and if there isn't any and he was just a verbally abusive boss, then the net has just been cast wider and possibly been misnamed. 
      That's a weird way to note "sexual misconduct".
      Being an asshole isn't the same as being a sexual harasser.  Again, going too far. 

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      For the record, I have never heard of this guy.

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      I see his name on the TV guide when wandering around it. One of those names that sticks with you kinda because it's odd.

      I had assumed he was a tv evangelist to be honest.

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      Ultimark wrote: khawk wrote: From that article:
      "Variety reports that the law firm MSK was hired by PBS and "took reports from 10 witnesses, a mix of men and women of different races and employment levels in Smiley’s organization, most of them former staffers," who claim he fostered a hostile work climate while verbally abusing his employees, according to the report."
      No mention about the specifics of a sexual misconduct complaint, reads more like he is just an asshole boss. 
      Not saying it's not there but I would hope there would be at least some mention of what the sexual misconduct part is...and if there isn't any and he was just a verbally abusive boss, then the net has just been cast wider and possibly been misnamed. 
      That's a weird way to note "sexual misconduct".
      Being an asshole isn't the same as being a sexual harasser.  Again, going too far. 

      Yeah that's what I mean, but I would not be surprised if it's just written very poorly too.

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      He used to have a talk show on BET for eons, then moved over to PBS.

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      Yesterday I saw a heading that stated Luc Robitaille's wife stated Trump was "aggressive" with her in an elevator a number of years ago.

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      the squared circle wrote: Yesterday I saw a heading that stated Luc Robitaille's wife stated Trump was "aggressive" with her in an elevator a number of years ago.
      I saw one of the ladies against Trump claimed he came backstage at the Miss USA pageant and saw her "naked underneath her robe"...he didn't see her "actually" naked mind you, she was naked underneath her robe, therefore he saw her naked and harassed  her lol..

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      Took me a second to realize who Robitaille was married to.  Looks great considering she's in her mid 50's

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      I honestly think Trump has no memory of most of this stuff.

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      Ultimark wrote: I honestly think Trump has no memory of most of this stuff.
      Possible.  But his penchant for lying is too strong for me to believe him just being forgetful.

      Especially when there's video and photographic evidence that he's met those that he claims to have never met. 

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      DaNkinator wrote: Ultimark wrote: I honestly think Trump has no memory of most of this stuff.
      Possible.  But his penchant for lying is too strong for me to believe him just being forgetful.

      Especially when there's video and photographic evidence that he's met those that he claims to have never met. 
      Oh, he lies all the time, clearly and in such an obvious way.  I was really commenting on his diminished capacity. 

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      DaNkinator wrote: Ultimark wrote: I honestly think Trump has no memory of most of this stuff.
      Possible.  But his penchant for lying is too strong for me to believe him just being forgetful.

      Especially when there's video and photographic evidence that he's met those that he claims to have never met. 

      he knows these ladies, but Trump knows how to handle these accusations in 2017 and that is deny them and make the issue small and seem like not a big deal. 
      Every other idiot try playing to media and say this maybe true and then floodgates opened up on them

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      Kentucky Republican Dan Johnson has committed suicide after being accused of molesting a 17-year old girl who was friends with his daughter and having a sleepover with her. Johnson denied the allegations in a farewell post on Facebook and signed off “Heaven is my home.”  Johnson had a long history of scandals, including allegations of burning down his church for the insurance money and claims that he was a 9/11 “first responder” that no one can verify.

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      Now Sportscenter host John Buccigross and Mathew Berry join the list.

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      Matthew Berry, the fantasy football guy? Shit.

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      When Trump is the voice of reason you know you're in trouble. He has publicly urged Roy Moore to concede.

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      Benlen wrote: Now Sportscenter host John Buccigross and Mathew Berry join the list.
      We're really scraping the bottom of the barrel now.

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      Although not sexual, this is being lumped in with everything else because it is violence against women. Last week Queens of the Stone Age frontman Josh Homme inexplicable kicked a female photographer in the face while she shot him on stage. There were many photographers in the area and he singled her out. He initially claimed he was just trying to kick equipment out of his way and kicking the camera into her face was an accident, but he gave a more sincere apology shortly after, especially after the video circulated clearly showing him going out of his way to kick at her and/or her camera.  The photographer suffered some minor lacerations and bumps and bruises on her face and was treated by the arena's medical staff before resuming her duties and shooting another band later that night.  

      Homme's appearance on a BBC kids show was cancelled, and then he lost a guest spot on "Ellen".

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      We have our first female casualty. Andrea Ramsey, Democrat candidate for Congress out of Kansas, has dropped out of the race after being accused of sexual harassment by a male subordinate 12 years ago.

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      srossi wrote: We have our first female casualty. Andrea Ramsey, Democrat candidate for Congress out of Kansas, has dropped out of the race after being accused of sexual harassment by a male subordinate 12 years ago.

      Not the first. There was Melanie Martinez.


      http://sportsandwrestling.mywowbb.com/forum4/42657-15.html

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      Jerry Richardson



      Carolina Panthers owner Jerry Richardson announced in a statement Sunday on the team's official website he will sell the franchise at the end of the 2017 NFL season.
      The move comes after Sports Illustrated's L. Jon Wertheim and Viv Bernstein reported Richardson had paid out settlements to resolve allegations he acted inappropriately at the workplace.
      According to Wertheim and Bernstein, Richardson allegedly made inappropriate comments toward women, particularly on "Jeans Day" at the team's offices.
      In other instances, Richardson is said to have performed "back rubs that lingered too long or went too low down the spine" or attempted to buckle the seat belt of female passengers, which would allow him to "[brush] his hand across their breasts before putting the belt in the clasp."


      Richardson also allegedly used a racial slur when speaking to an African-American scout for the Panthers. The scout subsequently received a confidential settlement and left the team.
      In his statement announcing his plan to sell the Panthers, Richardson didn't reference the allegations against him:
      "I believe that it is time to turn the franchise over to new ownership. Therefore, I will put the team up for sale at the conclusion of this NFL season. We will not begin the sale process, nor will we entertain any inquiries, until the very last game is played. I hope everyone in this organization, both on and off the field, will be firmly focused on just one mission: to play and win the Super Bowl."
      Richardson helped bring the Panthers into the NFL in 1993—a mission he started in 1987. The team unveiled a statue in his honor in July 2016.
      The Buffalo Bills were the last NFL franchise to change hands. Terry and Kim Pegula purchased the team for over $1.1 billion in September 2014.
      Forbes valued the Panthers at $2.3 billion in September, making Carolina the 21st-most expensive team in the NFL.




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      Comedian and former "Silicon Valley" star T.J. Miller.  What makes this particularly delicious is that Miller is a raging Hillary supporter who got into legal trouble for assaulting his Trump-supporting Uber driver during the election.

      http://www.ibtimes.com/who-kate-miller-actor-tj-millers-wife-responds-sexual-assault-allegations-2630320

      T.J. Miller and his wife Kate Miller are putting up a united front as the “Deadpool” actor faces sexual assault allegations that stem back to his college days. The couple, who married in September 2015, released a statement together to deny all accusations.

      “[The victim] began again to circulate rumors online once [my and Kate’s] relationship became public. Sadly she is now using the current climate to bandwagon and launch these false accusations again,” the Millers wrote in a statement to the Daily Beast. “It is unfortunate that she is choosing this route as it undermines the important movement to make women feel safe coming forward about legitimate claims against real known predators.”

      Kate Miller (née Gourney) is an artist. She voiced a character in the animated flick “The Emoji Movie” alongside her husband, and she sometimes performs as his opening act on standup tours. Miller’s website Rose Petal Pistol shows that she participates in all types of art. The former ballerina models, acts and writes poetry.

      According to Town and Country, Kate and T.J. met while attending George Washington University. They were both in a production of “A Chorus Line” together. The victim alleges that T.J. assaulted her during his time at the college, which Miller graduated from in 2003.

      The anonymous accuser told the Daily Beast that Miller did things during sex that she didn’t consent to, including choking, punching and violently shaking her. She claims that the former “Silicon Valley” star penetrated her anally, during which she said “no,” and also penetrated her with a beer bottle without consent.

      The woman decided to let the university’s “student court” handle the accusations. Friends of both the accuser and T.J. testified. The university didn’t comment on the outcome. Miller graduated in 2003 while his victim was auditing classes.

      The Millers believe the victim is coming forward out of spite. “We met this woman over a decade ago while studying together in college, she attempted to break us up back then by plotting for over a year before making contradictory claims and accusations,” the Millers added in their statement.

      “She was asked to leave our university comedy group because of worrisome and disturbing behavior, which angered her immensely, she then became fixated on our relationship, and began telling people around campus ‘I’m going to destroy them’ and ‘I’m going to ruin him,’” the couple claims.

      The victim says she did not want to ruin T.J.’s life, and that’s why she never went to the police. However, the recent #MeToo movement and the increasing number of women in Hollywood coming forward about men who have sexually assaulted them made her realize that she should come forward publicly.

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      TJ must be a lot like Louis C.K. where people knew he was a POS but didn't ever speak on it until something came out. He's getting KILLED on twitter, by lefties mostly, about how he's been ant-women for years and it's finally coming out..

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      Married Jo wrote: TJ must be a lot like Louis C.K. where people knew he was a POS but didn't ever speak on it until something came out. He's getting KILLED on twitter, by lefties mostly, about how he's been ant-women for years and it's finally coming out..
      I thought he was hilarious on "Silicon Valley" so I made the mistake of checking out one of his stand-up comedy shows, and after that I just thought he was the biggest douche in entertainment.

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      This stuff knows no political boundaries. More than enough on both sides. Funny, it seems as though the only person to completely get away with it after accusations were made is Trump himself. Like it or not, his response was to say they were all lying and to point out (correctly) that Bill Clinton had his own issues. Some of these guys seem to be caving in immediately even in he said/she said situations.

      I am not condoning any bad behavior but I am surprised that there are not guys saying (besides Bible Judge Moore who is an asshole anyway), " screw you, I didn't do it".

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      Ultimark wrote: I am not condoning any bad behavior but I am surprised that there are not guys saying (besides Bible Judge Moore who is an asshole anyway), " screw you, I didn't do it".
      Well Miller is pretty much saying that, and Danny Masterson is fighting, but I agree that the number of people who have rolled over and admitted everything (or at least admitted enough, in the case of Moore and Lauer) is surprising. 

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      Hoffman was the one who surprised me by just bending over so easy. There is some awful behavior here but some of the things are getting blown out of proportion.

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      Chris Matthews



      After weekend reports that NBC paid money to a female staffer in 1999 who accused MSNBC’s Chris Matthews of sexual harassment, the network kept mum for a second day about whether there were other women who had accused the longtime host of inappropriate behavior.

      The Daily Caller first reported on the payment Saturday. The website reported that Matthews paid $40,000 to the woman who worked on his show “Hardball with Chris Matthews” as an assistant producer.

      Representatives at NBC, CNBC and MSNBC did not respond to Fox News emails and calls on both Sunday and Monday requesting comment as to whether other sexual harassment complaints had been filed against Matthews since the payout.

      NBC News confirmed Sunday that Matthews, 71, was issued a reprimand in 1999 after the woman complained to CNBC executives.

      An MSNBC spokesperson told NBC News that the execs were told that Matthews made inappropriate jokes and comments about the woman in front of others, that the matter was reviewed and it was determined the comments were inappropriate and made in poor taste but were never meant as propositions. The show was on CNBC before it was on MSNBC.

      The MSNBC spokesperson declined to specify the amount of the payment citing confidentiality, NBC News reported.

      Matthews didn’t respond to a request for comment from Fox News, either.

      Matthews is the latest big name in media to be accused of sexual misconduct in the past few months. Those revelations have been particularly bad at embattled NBC.

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      Former Tennessee Democratic Congressman Harold Ford Jr., 47, has not appeared on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” show, where he was a frequent guest, since he was fired from Morgan Stanley in early December in the wake of allegations he forcibly grabbed a woman several years ago. MSNBC said it was looking into the report and that during that time he wasn't a guest on MSNBC.
      Ford has denied the allegations.




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      Time to call Mr. Solo & Mr. Kuryakin.




      A month and a half ago, Jodi Kantor and Megan Twohey’s devastating investigation into Harvey Weinstein’s alleged sexual predation lit a fuse within the media and entertainment industries, precipitating a deluge of claims from myriad outlets about the foul behavior of public figures ranging from Charlie Rose to Louis C.K. to Mark Halperin. Now, the conflagration has arrived back at the Times’s own doorstep. On Monday morning, Vox published a story with the headline, “Exclusive: N.Y.T. White House correspondent Glenn Thrush’s history of bad judgment around young women journalists,”which contained allegations of inappropriate groping and kissing by Thrush, one of America’s most prominent political reporters. The story detailed incidents depicting Thrush, who is 50 years old and married, making inappropriate advances upon women in their twenties, including some who were his colleagues during the time he worked at Politico. After some of these encounters, one source told Vox, Thrush told colleagues that the women had been the initiators. The story’s author, Vox editorial director Laura McGann, was not only a reporter probing the allegations; she herself had been on the receiving end of what she writes was an unwanted advance by Thrush when she was an editor at Politico. (I, too, used to work at Politico, where I overlapped with Thrush, who I've had a cordial relationship with, and McGann, who I do not know.)

      After the story’s publication, the Times announced that it was investigating the matter, and Thrush was quickly suspended. Thrush, meanwhile, issued a statement apologizing to “any woman who felt uncomfortable in my presence, and for any situation where I behaved inappropriately.” He also disclosed that he was beginning outpatient treatment for an alcohol-abuse problem. “I am working hard to repair the damage I have done.” (I texted Thrush to see if he wanted to speak further, but didn’t get a response. His fullstatement circulated on Twitter.)

      At the Times, known for occasionally obsessive self-reflection, the news prompted enormous anxiety. The news organization that fomented an extraordinary cultural upheaval was suddenly tasked with managing through it. The newsroom, like many others, is on edge. “People are feeling embarrassed, discouraged, and vulnerable,” said one veteran Times editor. The source pointed me to a tweet from a young female digital news editor, Maira Garcia,who wrote: “I’ll say this: I’m proud to work at The Times. I give so much of myself to it, as do so many other women who work there. They are an inspiration. But I can still feel angry, sad and disappointed. And I can also hope that we all come out better in the end.” Times management knows they’re in the spotlight. Executive editor Dean Baquet and C.E.O. Mark Thompson both sent staff memos addressing the matter. “The alleged behavior described in the piece is clearly not in keeping with the values we expect fromTimes employees,” Baquet wrote. “We plan a thorough investigation . . . and it’s critical that we hold ourselves to the highest possible standards of behavior.”

      Precisely who, of the men who’ve committed these sorts of offenses, is deserving of a chance at redemption, is a question no one has yet answered—it’s a line that hasn’t been drawn. And given the Times’s importance in the story, Thrush's situation is liable to be a test case.

      Among the multiple current and former Times employees I spoke with—including men and women, managers and subordinates—people were wrestling with whether the allegations against Thrush warranted his termination—a question perhaps complicated by the fact that most of the events occurred prior to his hiring, and did not involve any Times colleagues. For some, Thrush’s misdeeds were not of the same magnitude as those of, say, Halperin, a powerful political journalist who lost his TV gig and book deal after CNN exposed accusations of “pressing an erection against [women’s] bodies while he was clothed,” or Rose, a broadcast legend who was fired from CBS on Tuesday in the wake of a Washington Postreport, and subsequent pieces from other outlets, alleging lewd and inappropriate behavior with young women who worked for him. “The Vox piece,” a male employee of the Times’ Washington bureau told me, “it was obviously a damning piece; I don’t think anyone would say it wasn’t. But it was also a piece that, like a lot of these things, lived in some gray areas. It’s not an easy call.“ Others agreed with the amorphousness. “To me,” said another one of my Timessources, a woman, “it makes a difference that [Thrush] wasn’t the boss or supervisor. That mitigates the degree of seriousness.” This person also said that high-level Times figures are “torn” about whether Thrush should keep his job. A third Times source said: “I honestly don’t think anyone in leadership feels like they can make a judgment until they understand, more fully, exactly what the behavior was.”

      Random House, where Thrush and Maggie Haberman recently landed a significant book deal, was also still processing the news when I checked in with sources there on Monday. On Tuesday morning, a Random House spokeswoman emailed, “No update.” I texted Haberman, a longtime friend of Thrush’s and his close collaborator on many high-profile Times stories about the Trump administration, and she said, "The Times is investigating, and I need to refer you to them." A spokesperson for the Times declined to comment beyond the statements already issued.

      There is, however, one thing everyone seems to agree on: the stakes could not be higher. Even though Thrush has only been with theTimes for less than a year, he’s become one of the most high profile and recognizable figures on its politics team, and was even parodied in a White House briefing-room skit on Saturday Night Live. The allegations raise a number of questions concerning his ongoing effectiveness as a Times reporter: Could his personal behavior complicate his ability to cover a president with his own history of sexual allegations? Could it make him vulnerable combatting Sarah Huckabee Sanders in the briefing room?

      The Times’s response, sources said, is also likely to be colored by the case of Michael Oreskes, who resigned from his post as NPR’s editorial director several weeks ago after the emergence of multiple sexual-harassment allegations, some of which occurred while he was the Times Washington bureau chief nearly two decades ago. After the Oreskes news broke, Times officials investigated those claims, including a call to former executive editor Joe Lelyveld,according to a person familiar with the matter, and verified that a complaint was never made against Oreskes at the Times.Nevertheless, this means that people will be watching how theTimes deals with Thrush all the more closely.

      The last six weeks have quite possibly been among the proudest of Baquet’s tenure, and will likely go down as a massive part of his legacy as the Times’s newsroom leader. Having been out front in the recent wave of sexual-harassment reporting, the Times can’t afford to make the wrong move when it comes to addressing reporting that has exposed one of its own. It's a different sort of challenge. “The journalism so far that the Times has produced on this subject, you’ve got to imagine that it’s Pulitzer worthy,” the veteran Timeseditor told me. “So how the Times responds in this situation, it’s being scrutinized. I cannot express more strongly how seriously theTimes is viewing this.”

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      MINNEAPOLIS -- A photographer who has covered the Minnesota Twins accused Miguel Sano of assault, posting on Twitter that the All-Star third baseman forcibly attempted to kiss her following an autograph session at a mall in 2015. Betsy Bissen tweeted Thursday that she screamed and resisted Sano until he gave up "after a solid 10 minutes of fighting."
      Bissen, who has worked for publications including the popular fan blog Twins Daily, said in her tweet that she long feared that telling her story would cost her access to photograph Twins games.
      Sano said he "unequivocally" denies the allegation.
      "It never happened. I have the utmost respect for women, especially those working in professional sports, and I deeply sympathize with anyone who has experienced sexual harassment. There is no place for it in our society," Sano said in a statement issued by his agent, Kyle Thousand.
      Major League Baseball has begun an investigation, said MLB spokesman Pat Courtney. The Twins said they learned of the allegation only Thursday. Their statement said the team and MLB "take these allegations very seriously" but had no further comment. 
      #MNTwins statement on Miguel Sano: pic.twitter.com/ybQfQ4mcpm
      — Minnesota Twins (@Twins) December 28, 2017
      In 2015, MLB and its players union unveiled a new policy covering domestic violence, sexual assault and child abuse. Commissioner Rob Manfred has the power to levy discipline, with no minimum or maximum penalty, following an investigation.
      Bissen didn't respond to an interview request from The Associated Press. She told her story on her Twitter account, writing that Sano was participating in an autograph signing at a store while she worked as a volunteer and photographed him interacting with fans during the event.
      Bissen said Sano remarked that he had noticed her during games. She said he tried to flirt with her and, after the signing, grabbed her wrist and "made me go with" a small group that included Sano's previous agent, Rob Plummer, to another store. She said she complied only to avoid causing a scene.
      As the group left the mall about a half hour later, Bissen wrote, Sano said he needed to use the restroom. She pointed him to the door, and she said Sano "took that as a signal that I wanted him to grab me and try to take me back through that door." She said she pulled back as he held on.
      "It hurt, how badly he was grasping at my wrist, but he wouldn't let go. I wasn't going to give up my fight though. He then leaned down and tried to kiss me, more than once. Every time he did, I said no and kept pulling back," Bissen wrote.
      Plummer, who was fired by Sano two years ago, told ESPN that he didn't witness the alleged assault.
      "I was outside next to the car, waiting for him to come out on the other side of the loading bay dock, so I don't know what happened inside," Plummer told the network. 


      Bissen, who shared her tweet with the #metoo hashtag, said in a follow-up post that she wanted to "feel free of this burden I've carried with me since 2015."
      Sano is listed by the Twins at 6-foot-4 and 260 pounds, though he's often played at a weight much heavier than that. Sano made the American League All-Star team in 2017, his third major league season. He batted .264 with 28 homers and 77 RBIs, despite missing the last six weeks of the season. 
      CBS Sports reports Sano is about to enter his fourth season with the team. It remains unclear if the MLB will investigate Bissen's allegations against Sano. 
      "Every time I have to hear about how great people think Miguel Sano is, I'm reminded of how awful he actually is and how he hurt me," Bissen wrote.
      Twins pitcher Trevor May tweeted "I'm sorry, Betsy," in reply to Bissen's post. Former Twins third baseman Trevor Plouffe also chimed in on Twitter with sympathy: "I'm so sorry about this. I understand why you didn't, but I wish you would have come to me."

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      Ben Vereen. The usual stuff.

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      Ultimark wrote: Ben Vereen. The usual stuff.
      An old guy getting hit with his first accusations - he would've made an excellent Dead Pool pick with all those bonus points.  But few people seemed to let the new stipulation affect their picks.

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      srossi wrote: Ultimark wrote: Ben Vereen. The usual stuff.
      An old guy getting hit with his first accusations - he would've made an excellent Dead Pool pick with all those bonus points.  But few people seemed to let the new stipulation affect their picks.
      Gotta think McCain has a shot at some allegations.  I think most, if not all of us, have him.  

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      Ultimark wrote: Ben Vereen. The usual stuff.I honestly thought he was dead.

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      Film maker Paul Haggis

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      Michael Douglass being accused by someone who worked for him 33 YEARS ago of masturbating in front of her. He didn't wait for the accusation to become public. He called bullshit on it immediately with a trade publication. The reporters have been calling people he worked with for corroboration but haven't got squat so far.

      If you are innocent and know it is coming, this is how you handle it. Also, Douglas has a solid track record.

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      Stan Lee

      http://www.businessinsider.com/stan-lee-is-being-accused-of-sexual-misconduct-by-a-nursing-company-2018-1?amp%3Butm_medium=referral

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      bpickering wrote: Stan Lee

      http://www.businessinsider.com/stan-lee-is-being-accused-of-sexual-misconduct-by-a-nursing-company-2018-1?amp%3Butm_medium=referral
      Out of control.  

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      Ultimark wrote: bpickering wrote: Stan Lee

      http://www.businessinsider.com/stan-lee-is-being-accused-of-sexual-misconduct-by-a-nursing-company-2018-1?amp%3Butm_medium=referral
      Out of control.  

      Leave fucking Stan Lee alone. 

      On another note, those who have him in the Dead Pool could get major bonus points here. 

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      srossi wrote: Ultimark wrote: bpickering wrote: Stan Lee

      http://www.businessinsider.com/stan-lee-is-being-accused-of-sexual-misconduct-by-a-nursing-company-2018-1?amp%3Butm_medium=referral
      Out of control.  

      Leave fucking Stan Lee alone. 

      On another note, those who have him in the Dead Pool could get major bonus points here. 
      Didn't even think of that.  Awesome!

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      New allegations against James Franco, which should surprise no one.

      https://www.rollingstone.com/movies/news/five-women-accuse-james-franco-of-sexual-misconduct-w515328


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      Ultimark wrote: srossi wrote: Ultimark wrote: bpickering wrote: Stan Lee

      http://www.businessinsider.com/stan-lee-is-being-accused-of-sexual-misconduct-by-a-nursing-company-2018-1?amp%3Butm_medium=referral
      Out of control.  

      Leave fucking Stan Lee alone. 

      On another note, those who have him in the Dead Pool could get major bonus points here. 
      Didn't even think of that.  Awesome!

      Maybe i'm in the minority, but there's just something completely awesome about a 95 year old Stan Lee walking around naked telling nurses to suck his cock.  THAT is how you grow old, people!

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      Superstar wrote: Ultimark wrote: srossi wrote: Ultimark wrote: bpickering wrote: Stan Lee

      http://www.businessinsider.com/stan-lee-is-being-accused-of-sexual-misconduct-by-a-nursing-company-2018-1?amp%3Butm_medium=referral
      Out of control.  

      Leave fucking Stan Lee alone. 

      On another note, those who have him in the Dead Pool could get major bonus points here. 
      Didn't even think of that.  Awesome!

      Maybe i'm in the minority, but there's just something completely awesome about a 95 year old Stan Lee walking around naked telling nurses to suck his cock.  THAT is how you grow old, people!






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      “Community” creator Dan Harmon admitted to sexually harassing a writer in a lengthy statement on his podcast, weeks after she accused him on Twitter.

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      Off-air footage has surfaced of Hardball’s Chris Matthews joking about putting “Cosby pills” in Hillary Clinton's water. He also called it “the queen’s water” and generally joked about what a huge bitch she is moments before interviewing her. Matthews of course is a big-time Democrat, further proof that even liberals in the media who had to push her over Trump really despise her. It’ll be interesting to see though if his career can survive a Cosby joke at the expense of such a high-profile woman who rank-and-file liberals have to still pretend to love.

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      srossi wrote: Off-air footage has surfaced of Hardball’s Chris Matthews joking about putting “Cosby pills” in Hillary Clinton's water. He also called it “the queen’s water” and generally joked about what a huge butch she is moments before interviewing her. Matthews of course is a big-time Democrat, further proof that even liberals in the media who had to push her over Trump really despise her. It’ll be interesting to see though if his career can survive a Cosby joke at the expense of such a high-profile woman who rank-and-file liberals have to still pretend to love.I laughed at this. Def a joke. No one would want to do Hillary.

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      Yea but he is way passed his prime. They should be looking for a replacement.

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      I think it might have officially jumped the shark with the latest Aziz Anzari allegations. Even most liberals seem to be rolling their eyes at that one.

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      Yea, love his show. He said he misread the signals. It is out of control now.

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      Ultimark wrote: Yea, love his show. He said he misread the signals. It is out of control now.
      Every bad date, every awkward or drunken conversation, is now sexual abuse.  And everyone knows that no one can live up to these impossibly high standards, especially not when you're just learning about relationships in your teens and 20s.  Women can't either, although because of double standards they don't have to worry about it. 

      Apparently Aziz got a little whiney and begged for sex, she kinda/sorta/not really said no by her own admission but then gave him oral, and this went on and on and she never once put her foot down or (gasp) just left.  Then the next day she had to check with friends to validate her feelings that she was abused because she wasn't sure, and they said "Girl power!" and off to the races we went with this absurdity.  All my years of random dates and I never realized that women were incapable of leaving an apartment if they felt uncomfortable.   

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      Well, Anzir was in his 30's but I understand your point.

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      I've been asked out by 3 women at work in the past 5-6 years. #metoo

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      I never went on a business trip with a woman except 1 time. A young lady in the office was dying to go to a convention. Well, I had to stay up late and make certain that none of the guys got her drunk. It was a pain in the ass. I made fun of Pence but now get it.

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      Ultimark wrote:  I made fun of Pence but now get it.
      yeah, it's funny how a year ago the media and celebrities were basically mocking Pence for his stance and now he looks like a genius because of it..

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      Married Jo wrote: Ultimark wrote:  I made fun of Pence but now get it.
      yeah, it's funny how a year ago the media and celebrities were basically mocking Pence for his stance and now he looks like a genius because of it..

      Eh, would anyone really be surprised if it turns out he's got a Roy Moore type history though?

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      Eh I've worked primarily with women and have hung out with them socially plenty of times when my wife's on the road. I can't imagine having to live a life like Pence based on hypothetical possible problems.

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      It's really amazing how many Facebook posts I read under these sexual harassment stories of young men just basically saying, "I don't date, I'll never meet a woman, I don't want these headaches."  And it's easy to say this is anecdotal evidence and the bullshit spewings of anonymous and bitter Internet posters, but all the data on millennials seem to bear this out.  I'm always reading research that says millenials really don't date, they don't go out at the same rate of any other generation, they don't have sex, they don't have social lives.  They sit at (their parents') home and watch Netflix and their sex lives consist of jerking off a lot to interactive "porn" like webcam girls or Snapchat nude pics.  It's amazing that I'm now old enough to say, "BACK IN MY DAY...we just jerked off to Asian chicks playing with their pussies and then we went out and got laid."  Nowadays, the entire sexual experience can be online and is interactive and consists mostly of sexting, Snapchatting, camming, etc. with random strangers with no expectation to ever meet.  This cannot be a healthy trend and I can't imagine where we're going to be in 20-30 years.  I've never ever thought that watching porn was unhealthy (in moderation of course), but I do think that entire sexual relationships based online with no physical interaction can be extremely unhealthy.  I guess at least maybe we'll have a population reduction in this country.  In the meantime, we have this pesky "child porn" problem now because with everyone sexting, including high school kids, there's nude pics of everyone out there, so instead of having to deal with sexual abuse charges you just have to worry about having a nude pic of a 16-year old on your phone because of antiquated laws.  Absolutely all of this is a mess.     

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      srossi wrote: Married Jo wrote: Ultimark wrote:  I made fun of Pence but now get it.
      yeah, it's funny how a year ago the media and celebrities were basically mocking Pence for his stance and now he looks like a genius because of it..

      Eh, would anyone really be surprised if it turns out he's got a Roy Moore type history though?
      He doesn't strike me as that type.  

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      Ultimark wrote: srossi wrote: Married Jo wrote: Ultimark wrote:  I made fun of Pence but now get it.
      yeah, it's funny how a year ago the media and celebrities were basically mocking Pence for his stance and now he looks like a genius because of it..

      Eh, would anyone really be surprised if it turns out he's got a Roy Moore type history though?
      He doesn't strike me as that type.  

      A super religious hypocrite leading a double life and being a secret perv?  Nah, never happened before.

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      srossi wrote: Ultimark wrote: Yea, love his show. He said he misread the signals. It is out of control now.
      Every bad date, every awkward or drunken conversation, is now sexual abuse.  And everyone knows that no one can live up to these impossibly high standards, especially not when you're just learning about relationships in your teens and 20s.  Women can't either, although because of double standards they don't have to worry about it. 

      Apparently Aziz got a little whiney and begged for sex, she kinda/sorta/not really said no by her own admission but then gave him oral, and this went on and on and she never once put her foot down or (gasp) just left.  Then the next day she had to check with friends to validate her feelings that she was abused because she wasn't sure, and they said "Girl power!" and off to the races we went with this absurdity.  All my years of random dates and I never realized that women were incapable of leaving an apartment if they felt uncomfortable.   

      The tv in the staff caf was on this morning and I glanced at it as I was getting a coffee. Seems this incident is sparking a debate among those (women) championing it...Those that want a "bad date" left private and those that want this "bad date" to represent how deeply mysogynistic the culture around women is since people actually don't want to classify this as a serious thing like actual rape is.
      Ultimately like a lot of the secondary stuff associated with the real issue here, this will make even more people ignore/roll their eyes at the whole #metoo movement and will hurt those with legitimate claims.

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      Spot on.

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=share&v=N1MZRowhMtc

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      Patrick Brown has resigned as Ontario Progressive Conservative Leader after serious allegations of sexual misconduct from two women who spoke to CTV News.
      In a statement released early Thursday morning, Brown called the allegations false but says he is resigning after consulting with friends, family and caucus members.


      "I will remain on as a MPP while I definitively clear my name from these false allegations," said Brown, who is 39.
      A separate statement from Ontario PC deputy leaders Sylvia Jones and Steve Clark was released shortly after Brown’s and said they unanimously agree Brown couldn’t continue serving as the party’s leader.
      "Mr. Brown is entitled to a legal defense and due process, but he cannot lead us into an election as a result of these allegations," the statement read.
      In interviews, the women allege inappropriate behavior by the rising political figure throughout his tenure as an elected official.
      One was still in high school when she says Brown, a well-known Barrie politician, asked her to perform oral sex on him.
      The other, a university student who worked in his office when Brown was a federal Conservative MP, alleges Brown sexually assaulted her following an event she helped organize.
      Brown's lawyer has responded, saying that Brown "categorically denies these false and defamatory allegations."
      In a hastily-called evening news conference, Brown further addressed the allegations.
      “First I want to say these allegations are false. Categorically untrue. Every one of them. I will defend myself as hard as I can, with all means at my disposal. It’s never okay. It’s never okay for anybody -- for anyone -- to feel they have been a victim of sexual harassment, or feel threatened in any way. Let me make this clear: a safe and respectful society is what we expect and deserve,” Brown said.
      After becoming aware of the allegations late Wednesday, a number of Brown’s closest advisors resigned.
      Campaign Manager Andrew Boddington, Chief of Staff Alykhan Velshi, and Deputy Campaign Manager Dan Robertson released a joint statement saying: “earlier today, all three of us became aware of allegations about Patrick Brown. After speaking with him, our advice was that he should resign as Ontario PC Party leader. He did not accept that advice.”
      As well, Ontario PC press secretary Nick Bergamini, staffer Ken Bossenkool and deputy campaign manager Joshua Workman all tweeted their resignations.
      Both incidents are alleged to have happened inside Brown’s home in Barrie, Ont., after the women had been drinking in his presence.
      Brown, a well-reported teetotaler, was not drinking alcohol at the time of the alleged incidents, both women told CTV News.
      CTV News has agreed to protect the identities of the women who have come forward.
      The first incident occurred more than 10 years ago. The woman, a high school student in Barrie at the time, said she and a mutual friend met Brown at a bar.
      Brown then invited them back to his home and provided them with alcohol, though the woman was under the legal drinking age at the time.
      She says she was drunk when Brown invited her for a tour of his home. When the pair entered the bedroom, Brown closed the door and exposed his penis to her.
      "He pulled down his pants said, and I don’t know if he said 'suck my dick' or 'put this in your mouth,' but something along those lines,” she said.
      The woman alleges that he then asked her to perform oral sex, which she did for a short time before stopping.
      “It was like a controlling thing… like I just remember I wanted to go, but that wasn’t happening."
      She says she then left his house and went to a nearby friend’s place.
      "He's an old, single, politician preying on young girls. He’s just a sad person," the now-29 year old said.
      Another woman came forward with a similar story, detailing her time working for the MP in then-prime minister Stephen Harper’s government. She spoke to CTV News in an on-camera interview.
      She said she met the then-Conservative MP in November 2012 on an Air Canada flight when she was 18, coming home from university.


      Hours after the flight, at 11:21 p.m. -- a time that was verified by social media accounts viewed by CTV News -- Brown sent the woman a message: "Are you impressed I remembered your name? I am.. LOL"
      Brown gave the woman his phone number and the names of Barrie bars that he’d be at that night, offering her help to skip any lineups, even though she was 18 at the time -- below Ontario’s legal drinking age.
      "I kinda laughed it off as an older man… hitting on me," the former staffer said.
      She didn't take him up on the offer, but months later when she was looking for a summer job she reached out to Brown and asked if he had any openings or if he knew of other opportunities.
      After an interview in his Parliament Hill office, Brown hired her to work in his Barrie constituency office.
      Brown tasked her with organizing the Hockey Night in Barrie charity game he hosts annually. Emails from Brown viewed by CTV News confirmed this.
      "You know you are my favourite :)" writes Brown in an email to the woman days before the Aug. 15, 2013 event.
      At an after-party in a now-closed local nightclub, The Bank, the woman says Brown and others provided her with a string of free alcoholic beverages. She was by then legal age.
      "It was too many to count," the former staffer said.
      When the bar closed, the party moved to Brown's home, all captured on social media.


      The woman says she was extremely drunk when Brown invited her and a male friend of his to Brown’s bedroom to look at photographs of a trip to Asia stored on his iPad.
      Brown's friend then left, leaving her and Brown to sit alone on the bed.
      "The next thing I know he's kissing me. Sitting beside me, kissing me and then I was, I kind of just froze up. He continued to kiss me and he laid me down on the bed and got on top of me. I remember consciously trying not to move my mouth and I was just not moving, so I was laying there immobile and he kept kissing me," she said.
      "I felt it was sexual. I could feel his erection on my legs when he was on top of me so I felt that it would have gone to sexual intercourse if I had not done anything," she said. "I would characterize that as a sexual assault."
      "That scenario, like of a very inebriated young employee in the bedroom of her boss, alone with him, who hasn’t had a drop of alcohol all night, just that’s an intimidating situation and I was not sure what to do about it," the former staffer said.
      She told him to stop, saying she had a boyfriend and told Brown to take her home, which he did, driving her back to her parents’ house.
      The woman said she did not report it to authorities or otherwise because she didn’t know what options she had, and tried to move on.
      "I didn’t think that there was any sort of recourse that I could take because I did think this is something that in maybe in another job, I would go to maybe HR about. But I didn’t feel, I didn’t even know who HR was in this context. Particularly being in a constituency office. I mean, I just didn’t know what to do."
      Brown often travels to India. After the party, the woman says he pressed her to join him as his assistant on an India trip, promising all expenses would be paid. He also gave her a raise.
      "He told me that I, you know, he thought that I would look really good on an elephant," she said. "I remember thinking, well, 'Would I have my own hotel room? … I remember thinking, is there some sort of expectation?'"
      She later spoke with her father about the incident and the invitation.
      "I just remember feeling so relieved that I told somebody," the former staffer said.
      CTV has spoken to her father, who corroborated her version of events. He encouraged her to reject the offer.
      Three other people close to her also confirm that she recounted the incident with Brown to them in the months that followed.
      The woman chose to return to work for Brown the following summer.
      "The reason I kept working there was, I wanted to in some way and try and, despite the fact that this happened, I didn’t want to let this impede on what I saw then as a career opportunity."
      During the second summer, her job included driving Brown to various events. It was during these drives that she alleges Brown made inappropriate comments to her including about a woman he had sexual relations with, and about wanting to find an older version of her to marry.
      "I felt at that point it was kind of part of the job," she said.
      His former staffer says she is speaking out now to support other women who have had similar experiences.
      "I don’t think that any woman young or old should be subjected to that and put in a situation where they have to decide between the career opportunity that’s in front of them and being-- taking themselves out of a situation that’s at best uncomfortable and at worst unsafe."
      Brown has denied these allegations.
      None of the allegations have been proven in court.








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      If Kathleen Wynne somehow gets back in next election because of this....jesus christ

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      khawk wrote: If Kathleen Wynne somehow gets back in next election because of this....jesus christ


      She would have won even without these accusations against Brown. Women will vote for her (50 % of the voters), plus gays will also vote for her.


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      Apparently David Copperfield copped more than a feel on a teen model.

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      lobo316 wrote: khawk wrote: If Kathleen Wynne somehow gets back in next election because of this....jesus christ


      She would have won even without these accusations against Brown. Women will vote for her (50 % of the voters), plus gays will also vote for her.



      I dunno man, she has pissed off so many people I know plenty of die-hard Liberal voters here that want her out-out-out.

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      khawk wrote: lobo316 wrote: khawk wrote: If Kathleen Wynne somehow gets back in next election because of this....jesus christ


      She would have won even without these accusations against Brown. Women will vote for her (50 % of the voters), plus gays will also vote for her.



      I dunno man, she has pissed off so many people I know plenty of die-hard Liberal voters here that want her out-out-out.


      After Lobo mentioned that women and gays love her, I figured she was hideous. Looked her up and it was worse than I thought.

      Women hate candidates who are attractive but love ugly ass ones that they don't consider competition.

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      By the way, Chris Matthews is still on the air. He must be considered too valuable.

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      LAF wrote: khawk wrote: lobo316 wrote: khawk wrote: If Kathleen Wynne somehow gets back in next election because of this....jesus christ


      She would have won even without these accusations against Brown. Women will vote for her (50 % of the voters), plus gays will also vote for her.



      I dunno man, she has pissed off so many people I know plenty of die-hard Liberal voters here that want her out-out-out.


      After Lobo mentioned that women and gays love her, I figured she was hideous. Looked her up and it was worse than I thought.

      Women hate candidates who are attractive but love ugly ass ones that they don't consider competition.

      She's a dyke and I think a former schoolteacher. Definitely looks the part

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      LAF wrote: Women hate candidates who are attractive but love ugly ass ones that they don't consider competition.
      A lot of women aren't too fond of Hillary, so I don't know about that.

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      Hillary is decent looking compared to Kathleen Wynne.

      Think about that for a minute.

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      Was listening to Jerry Agar on Toronto radio this morning. This whole things kind of stinks. If everything happened exactly as described above, it does make Brown a cad, but I'm not sure what he did that was really wrong, other than hit on a couple chicks. He was in his 20s when this went down, so it's not like he was some super creepy old dude. And in both cases the girls admit they went along with everything at the time and that when they decided enough was enough he didn't try to force them to do anything.

      Again, I'm not defending his actions, but I don't know why 10 years later two girls just happen to come out with these stories simultaneously (and anonymously) when there's nothing illegal about it. Politics, I suppose.

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      khawk wrote: Hillary is decent looking compared to Kathleen Wynne.

      Think about that for a minute.

      I don't know what she looks like and I don't want to. 

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      I know what she looks like and you are making the right call by avoiding.

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      Angelic Assassin wrote: Apparently David Copperfield copped more than a feel on a teen model.Add some guy named Nelly(whoever he is)

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      Benlen wrote: Angelic Assassin wrote: Apparently David Copperfield copped more than a feel on a teen model.Add some guy named Nelly(whoever he is)


      Not the first time Nelly's been accused of s/a.

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      lobo316 wrote: Benlen wrote: Angelic Assassin wrote: Apparently David Copperfield copped more than a feel on a teen model.Add some guy named Nelly(whoever he is)


      Not the first time Nelly's been accused of s/a.

      Whoah Nelly, it's getting hot in heeeerrrrrrreeeeeeeeee.

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      Met Patrick Brown at a Tory Fundraiser a few years back (my cousin used to do a lot of work for the party). I'm surprised about the Brown allegations, just cause he seemed more like a religious nut who would only have sex once a month on whichever day would best result in a child being conceived.
      Ah well, maybe they can actually try and get someone electable to lead the party this time.

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      broke wrote: Met Patrick Brown at a Tory Fundraiser a few years back (my cousin used to do a lot of work for the party). I'm surprised about the Brown allegations, just cause he seemed more like a religious nut who would only have sex once a month on whichever day would best result in a child being conceived.
      Ah well, maybe they can actually try and get someone electable to lead the party this time.


      What they need is a black woman who is also a lesbian.

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      Couldn't be any worse than some of the gems they've unearthed as of late!

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      Here's a serious question: what do the PC crowd call call blacks and Indians in Canadian, because I have absolutely never heard the terms "African Canadian" or "Canadian American" before.  And does Canada have reservations too?  There were a shit-ton of Indians in Canada that were slaughtered and run out by the French. 

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      The wagon burners change their minds every day about what they want to be called depending on what best suits their agenda for the day.

      Native, Indian, indigenous, whatever sucks the most money out of the government. It's now not even of to call the various chiefs of the different reserves even though they will use it as part of their name.
      There are so many reserves it's impossible to keep track. The government gives them money, it's gets misappropriated and then the government gives them more.
      Most Indians are supported by one government agency or another from the second they are born to the second they die. 
      90% of children in CFS care(child and family services) are native and somehow that's the white man's fault.
      15 year old crack ho's get pregnant from their gang banged boy friend and the government gives them more money each month than someone who worked 20 years and got laid off would get on EI. We live outside the city but when we come in for appts or whatever the downtown is just crawling with them because virtually none of them work.
      But the government keeps pissing money away on jobs and education for these scum. They don't work and they don't go to school. They have been conditioned for decades by their chiefs, lol, that they are owed.  And what the government won't give them they take like the piece of shit who assaulted and robbed a kid right outside the worst cesspool in the city Portage Place in broad daylight a couple days ago.
      I could go on forever.
      Africans, not sure what we call them. Mostly we just say where they'll is the maid or the butler.😁
      African Canadian is probably used, just not commonly. Everyone is just referred to as Canadians.

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      I thought the accepted term for Indians is "First Nations". This helps remind the white (English speaking) Canadians of their second class status.

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      KGB wrote: I thought the accepted term for Indians is "First Nations". This helps remind the white (English speaking) Canadians of their second class status.
      Hey, not my fault I'm superior

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      Blacks here typically call themselves Blacks (or African Americans since the continent is North America and all that).

      Indians - Depends. Most I know refer to themselves as Indian or Native. A few call themselves Aboriginals, A few First Nations.... A few Anishnabek...... all depends on who you talk to.

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      They ever figure out a way to deter the Indian kids on Labrador from sniffing gas like there was no tomorrow?

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      broke wrote:
      Indians - Depends. Most I know refer to themselves as Indian or Native. A few call themselves Aboriginals, A few First Nations.... A few Anishnabek...... all depends on who you talk to.

      probably about the same here.

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      Another Tory leader in Canada forced to resign.





      Nova Scotia's Progressive Conservative leader was asked to resign his post Wednesday morning after an investigator hired by the provincial PC Party to probe "allegations of inappropriate behaviour" found Jamie Baillie had breached workplace harassment rules.
      But before the harassment allegation was made public, Mr. Baillie took to Twitter, where he told followers that he was immediately resigning his leadership and his seat in the provincial legislature "for personal reasons."
      "My priority is my family and I ask that our privacy be respected," he wrote.
      To many, the resignation was not a total surprise: Mr. Baillie first announced his intentions to leave politics last fall. Then, he said that he would stay on until a new leader was chosen.
      Hours after his resignation tweet, the allegations against Mr. Baillie were revealed by Tara Miller, president of the Progressive Conservative Party of Nova Scotia, and caucus chair Karla MacFarlane in a carefully worded statement.
      "The PC Party does not, and will not, tolerate sexual harassment in the workplace," the statement read. "The PC Party is committed to a healthy, safe and supportive working environment where all Nova Scotians are treated with respect and dignity."
      At an afternoon news conference, Ms. MacFarlane, who has been named interim leader of the party, said the allegations against Mr. Baillie surfaced in late December. They were made by one complainant and the party brought in an "experienced" investigator in response.
      The party received the results of that investigation on Tuesday night and decided to request Mr. Baillie's resignation; caucus supported the decision unanimously, Ms. Miller said.
      No further details about allegations against Mr. Baillie have been given and Ms. MacFarlane said the party's intention is to protect the individual who made them.
      "It's a delicate, delicate issue and it's been a difficult process and we're respecting those involved at their request," she said.
      Neither Ms. Miller nor Ms. MacFarlane would say whether the case has been forwarded to police. Halifax Police Constable Carol McIsaac told The Globe and Mail the force has "not received a report at this time."
      Ms. MacFarlane said information on the PC leadership convention will be released soon – so far no date has been set for it.
      Meanwhile, Ms. MacFarlane said she is saddened by the situation. Mr. Baillie, a chartered accountant, has led the party since 2010, including through two provincial elections. After winning 17 seats in 2017, the Conservatives formed the official Opposition.
      "It's a lot to digest," Ms. MacFarlane told reporters. "But as we all know, no one is above the law."

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      At least there was some investigation done, rather than a kneejerk "fire/suspend/resign now" action immediately as the accusation surfaced.

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      Not the Wynn(e) I was hoping, but RNC finance committee chair and resort owner Steve Wynn. Only bringing this one up as we were actually thinking of going to his Macau resort next winter.

      https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-26/wynn-resorts-tumbles-on-steve-wynn-sexual-harassment-report

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      Did Copperfield cheat on Claudia Schiffer ? If so, that has to be proof that some men just can't live monogamous.

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      TORONTO -- A prominent CTV News reporter has been suspended, hours after a woman made sexual misconduct allegations against him.
      Bell Media's vice president of communications said Paul Bliss, who works at CTV's bureau in the Ontario legislature, has been suspended and an investigation is underway.
      "Allegations have been made against a CTV News reporter," Scott Henderson said in an email statement provided to The Canadian Press.
      "We take this very seriously and as a result have suspended Paul Bliss until an investigation is complete."
      The allegations were made in a blog post by Bridget Brown, who describes herself as a Calgary-based entrepreneur and former CTV employee.
      Under a Friday post titled "#MeToo in Canadian Broadcasting," Brown detailed an alleged sexual incident in the spring of 2006 involving an unnamed CTV reporter.
      Brown wrote that when she began working at CTV, she reached out to a reporter she had met at a party a few weeks earlier and asked if he'd like to get coffee with her in the cafeteria and reconnect.
      The reporter "suggested instead I come to his office after his shift," wrote Brown, and she agreed.
      Brown said the reporter showed her around "the storied building where he worked," and ended the tour back in his office.
      She alleges that he then started kissing her and "pushing on the top of my head," at which point she "bluntly" told him she wasn't interested.
      Brown wrote that she kept silent about the alleged incident for 12 years, and had been struggling in recent months with whether to reveal it.
      She said she had been thinking about the #MeToo movement of women coming forward with stories of sexual harassment, and reading about the resignation of Ontario Progressive Conservative leader Patrick Brown.
      He stepped down early Thursday morning, hours after CTV reported that two women have come forward with sexual misconduct allegations against him -- allegations that haven't been verified by The Canadian Press.
      In a post on Twitter Friday night, Bridget Brown wrote that she decided to come forward now because she had noticed a "dearth in #MeToo stories coming from Canada, specifically from media in Canada."
      When reached by phone, she told The Canadian Press she had no comment on Bliss's suspension.
      Her allegations have not been verified by The Canadian Press, and Bliss did not immediately respond to requests for comment.
      Bliss's biography on CTV's website describes him as a "veteran reporter ... and occasional anchor for CTV Toronto."
      It says he has won 13 awards for his reporting, including the Edward R. Murrow International Award for Best News Series.

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      Former Charles in Charge actress Nicole Eggert comes out with accusations against former co star Scott Baio when she was only 14 years old.

      https://twitter.com/NicoleEggert/status/957293940624912384

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      Marco Rubio has fired his Chief of Staff Clint Reed for "improper relations" with a staff member and after an internal investigation he felt it "amounted to threats to withhold employment benefits."

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      We have a 25-year old sexual harassment scandal revealed as it turns out “The Wonder Years” was cancelled after a costume designer accused both Fred Savage (then 16) and Jason Hervey (then 20) of physical, verbal, and sexual harassment.

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      Christopher Dionne, who appeared on a pilot episode of HGTV'sFamily Flip, is being accused of molesting a 10-year-old girl.
      According to court documents obtained by E! News, the TV personality was charged with fourth-degree sexual assault and risk of injury to a minor in Connecticut this week. Dionne turned himself in to police in Connecticut Monday. However, he is denying the allegations, per NBC's Today.
      Police say the 36-year-old is accused of touching the victim's buttocks under her clothing when she was sleeping over after a birthday party for her friend. He is also accused of touching the girl's chest under her clothing and taking pictures of her while he was holding her skirt up.
      The alleged victim stated that Christopher repeatedly said "don't tell anyone" and was once asked if she wanted to see his penis. She declined.
      Court documents state that Christopher was available to provide a verbal statement when contacted by authorities. He stated that the victim began to rub his stomach causing him to tell her "that's inappropriate."


      Christopher also told police that he was concerned about the allegations going public due to all the stories in the media and the fact that he is on TV.
      NBC Connecticut reached out to HGTV and they said Christopher appeared in the pilot of a show that premiered on the network more than two and a half years ago and it was not picked up for a series. They said the show is no longer on HGTV.
      A spokesperson for A&E, which was working with Christopher and his brother on a new show titled House Rescue, said the network was suspending production of the series in light of the allegations.
      When police spoke with Christopher's attorney, he said he would have his client speak with police when he returned from California if he was not being charged. If he was being charged, the attorney would advise his client not to speak.
      Christopher's bail was set at $100,000 Monday. He is currently out on bond.
      His next court date is scheduled for Valentine's Day. 

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      Mysterious wrote: Former Charles in Charge actress Nicole Eggert comes out with accusations against former co star Scott Baio when she was only 14 years old.

      https://twitter.com/NicoleEggert/status/957293940624912384

      The two definitely dated, no one disputes that.  Baio says they first had sex after she turned 18, and clearly no one could've believed that.  Eggert says it was when she was 17, but he digitally penetrated her as early as 14.  This was a full-blown consensual relationship that lasted years, but she's now saying she was too young to know what she was doing and he was her "boss" as the star of the show.

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      srossi wrote: Mysterious wrote: Former Charles in Charge actress Nicole Eggert comes out with accusations against former co star Scott Baio when she was only 14 years old.

      https://twitter.com/NicoleEggert/status/957293940624912384

      The two definitely dated, no one disputes that.  Baio says they first had sex after she turned 18, and clearly no one could've believed that.  Eggert says it was when she was 17, but he digitally penetrated her as early as 14.  This was a full-blown consensual relationship that lasted years, but she's now saying she was too young to know what she was doing and he was her "boss" as the star of the show.

      Eggert said that they had sex after the show was canceled which was in spring of 1990. Her birth date is January of 1972 which would've made her 18. There were always rumors about the two even way back then but her story and dates don't add up and she seemed cool with him until now.

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      Mysterious wrote: srossi wrote: Mysterious wrote: Former Charles in Charge actress Nicole Eggert comes out with accusations against former co star Scott Baio when she was only 14 years old.

      https://twitter.com/NicoleEggert/status/957293940624912384

      The two definitely dated, no one disputes that.  Baio says they first had sex after she turned 18, and clearly no one could've believed that.  Eggert says it was when she was 17, but he digitally penetrated her as early as 14.  This was a full-blown consensual relationship that lasted years, but she's now saying she was too young to know what she was doing and he was her "boss" as the star of the show.

      Eggert said that they had sex after the show was canceled which was in spring of 1990. Her birth date is January of 1972 which would've made her 18. There were always rumors about the two even way back then but her story and dates don't add up and she seemed cool with him until now.


      The show was cancelled twice, though. Once in 1985, and again in 1990. It was on hiatus between 85 and 87 until it was brought back in syndication.

      EDIT: Although she wasn't in the original run... as you were...

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      She was the only reason to even think about watching that show back then. I'm afraid to look up what she looks like now.

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      khawk wrote: She was the only reason to even think about watching that show back then. I'm afraid to look up what she looks like now.
      I'll admit I had a crush on her then but when she appeared on Baywatch she was a troll standing next to Pam Anderson.  Now she pretty much looks like Tammy Sytch and in the dumps like her too.


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      Kriss wrote: Mysterious wrote: srossi wrote: Mysterious wrote: Former Charles in Charge actress Nicole Eggert comes out with accusations against former co star Scott Baio when she was only 14 years old.

      https://twitter.com/NicoleEggert/status/957293940624912384

      The two definitely dated, no one disputes that.  Baio says they first had sex after she turned 18, and clearly no one could've believed that.  Eggert says it was when she was 17, but he digitally penetrated her as early as 14.  This was a full-blown consensual relationship that lasted years, but she's now saying she was too young to know what she was doing and he was her "boss" as the star of the show.

      Eggert said that they had sex after the show was canceled which was in spring of 1990. Her birth date is January of 1972 which would've made her 18. There were always rumors about the two even way back then but her story and dates don't add up and she seemed cool with him until now.


      The show was cancelled twice, though. Once in 1985, and again in 1990. It was on hiatus between 85 and 87 until it was brought back in syndication.

      EDIT: Although she wasn't in the original run... as you were...

      The show had two different families. Nicole Eggert was on the second syndication of it which was 1987. The original cast was not other than Scott Baio.

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      Mysterious wrote: khawk wrote: She was the only reason to even think about watching that show back then. I'm afraid to look up what she looks like now.
      I'll admit I had a crush on her then but when she appeared on Baywatch she was a troll standing next to Pam Anderson.  Now she pretty much looks like Tammy Sytch and in the dumps like her too.



      Eek. Had not seen her at all in forever. 

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      What do people expect a woman pushing 50 to look like? That's not the best pic of her, but in some pics that I've seen she's about as attractive for that age as you can reasonably expect without $100,000 worth of plastic surgery.

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      I'd actually rather see more "stars" age naturally like this. I'm not a fan of the stretched skin, botox look. It tends to erase subtle differences between woman.

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      Eggert has had facial work done. She was in a nasty skiing accident in the early 2000s and was pretty messed up. I saw her talk about this somewhere on a TV show once upon a time ago. Her life has pretty much gone down the porcelain since. She's changed the age Baio banged her more than once (always lower), declared bankruptcy, bought an ice cream truck, appeared on weight loss reality shows, etc

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      LAF wrote: Eggert has had facial work done. She was in a nasty skiing accident in the early 2000s and was pretty messed up.
      That's different though.  That was because of an accident, not just for anti-aging reasons.  You can tell she's not getting facelifts and botox every week like the typical aging celebrity. 

      I do think she needs to give up on these accusations though.  Baio is an easy target because he came out as a Trump supporter and has always been a general putz, but this was a well-known consensual relationship from 30+ years ago and no one who is being honest with themselves give a shit at this point if she was 15 or 17 (legal in many states anyway, but not CA) or 18 or whatever.  She made the choice to date him and crucifying a guy all these years later for it and trying to turn him into a pedophile, after he's got a wife and kids, is vindictive shit.     

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      khawk wrote: Mysterious wrote: khawk wrote: She was the only reason to even think about watching that show back then. I'm afraid to look up what she looks like now.
      I'll admit I had a crush on her then but when she appeared on Baywatch she was a troll standing next to Pam Anderson.  Now she pretty much looks like Tammy Sytch and in the dumps like her too.



      Eek. Had not seen her at all in forever. 

      That's not that bad really. Looks a little upset maybe like she hasn't gotten the high hard one in awhile. I'd volunteer but I'd leave my junk on her drapes.

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      Having little to do with the overall topic, but Josie Davis, who played the plain and brainy sister on "Charles In Charge", grew up to be really attractive and while she never became a big star has continued to work right up into the present day. She's the type of actress who will turn up in guest spots on a few prime time shows per season while working the odd Lifetime or Hallmark Channel movie.

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      Angelic Assassin wrote: khawk wrote: Mysterious wrote: khawk wrote: She was the only reason to even think about watching that show back then. I'm afraid to look up what she looks like now.
      I'll admit I had a crush on her then but when she appeared on Baywatch she was a troll standing next to Pam Anderson.  Now she pretty much looks like Tammy Sytch and in the dumps like her too.



      Eek. Had not seen her at all in forever. 

      That's not that bad really. Looks a little upset maybe like she hasn't gotten the high hard one in awhile. I'd volunteer but I'd leave my junk on her drapes.

      I think I had higher expectations than I should have as to how I thought she would look now. I'd want to see the whole package before committing to leave my junk on the drapes though. 

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      Rob Porter, the White House staff secretary, resigned today after he was accused of physical and emotional abuse by two of his ex-wives.

      http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/372758-white-house-staff-secretary-resigns-amid-abuse-allegations

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      LAF wrote: Eggert has had facial work done. She was in a nasty skiing accident in the early 2000s and was pretty messed up. I saw her talk about this somewhere on a TV show once upon a time ago. Her life has pretty much gone down the porcelain since. She's changed the age Baio banged her more than once (always lower), declared bankruptcy, bought an ice cream truck, appeared on weight loss reality shows, etc
      She's apparently now gone to the PD and filed charges. The second she got involved with Lisa Bloom, I knew it was nothing more than a money grab attempt from her.

      I'm kinda interested to see how it plays out and how much truth she's telling, if at all.

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      Legendary former NHL enforcer Dave ‘Tiger’ Williams has been charged with sexual assault after an alleged incident on board a Canadian Forces flight to Latvia.

      The Canadian Forces National Investigation Service charged Williams, the most penalized player in NHL history, on Feb. 7 with sexual assault as well as assault, according to military police.

      The charges relate to alleged incidents during a Canadian Forces flight to Latvia in December 2017. Williams was on a military-organized visit to raise the morale of Canadian Forces personnel stationed in Europe.

      “Every allegation of sexual assault is taken seriously by the Canadian Forces National Investigation Service,” Lt.-Col. Kevin Cadman, commanding officer of the NIS, said in a statement.

      “In all cases, the subject of charges is presumed innocent until proven guilty,” military police said in a news release. “The matter is now proceeding in accordance with the civilian justice system and will be brought forward by the Crown Attorney in Ottawa at a date still to be determined.”


      Military police have jurisdiction over civilian personnel on Canadian Forces bases and deployments.

      Navy Lt. Blake Patterson, a military police spokesman, said the alleged incident took place on a CC-150 Polaris jet during a Dec. 2-3 overnight flight to Riga. The victim told military officials about the assault during the flight.

      Patterson said Williams reported to military police on Friday in Ottawa, where he was arrested. He was released on a promise to appear and various conditions, such as to refrain from drinking alcohol and to have no communication with the alleged victim.

      Patterson declined to say whether the alleged victim was a man or woman, civilian or member of the Forces.

      Williams, 64, played for the Toronto Maple Leafs, Vancouver Canucks, Detroit Red Wings, Los Angeles Kings and Hartford Whalers — famously, often riding his hockey stick like a broom to celebrate scoring a goal. He amassed a league record 3,966 penalty minutes in his 14-season career. While best known for his take-no-prisoners style, he scored 513 points before retiring in 1988, and was the top goal scorer for the Canucks one season.

      Since retiring, Williams has spent much of his time taking part in various NHL alumni events, celebrity tournaments and charity fundraisers. On Dec. 9, York Regional Police invoked Williams as part of a safe-driving campaign on social media. Williams, in a hockey alumni uniform, is pictured making a fist with his right hand and holding a puck with his left that says, “Keep your head up – don’t text and drive.”

      The morale tour was part of the military’s “Team Canada” initiative that organizes visits to the troops by entertainers, artists, athletes, and media personalities. Team Canada visits usually involve approximately 20 people, DND spokesman Dan Le Bouthillier said Friday.

      The initiative started in 2006 and there are about two such trips a year. Williams has participated in 14 trips, including to Afghanistan. He has had a long association with the military. In 2014, he received the Canadian Forces Medallion for Distinguished Service, the highest award a civilian can receive.

      “None of the participants are paid,” Le Bouthillier said. “Participation in the program is purely voluntary, as those involved are looking to show their appreciation to CAF members who are away from their families for extended periods, representing their country.”

      In a 2014 interview with Vancouver Province writer Ed Willes, Williams said he divided his time between Weyburn, Sask., his hometown; Calgary, Vancouver and Prince George, B.C., where two of his grandchildren live. He described his health then as “perfect.”

      “I feel fortunate about everything I did in the hockey world,” he said. “It gave me the foundation to do whatever the hell I want.

      “But it’s the same old story. You have to put the same amount of effort after the game that you did in the game.”

      With files from Douglas Quan

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      I can't stand Baio but this is a clear money grab by a desperate person.

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      If someone ever has time, a basic list of everyone accused (rightly or wrongly) listed in this thread (even names only) would be kind of cool to see and probably quite mind numbing.

      So many names I am sure I have forgotten many of them by now (which is ultimately why the current climate hurts serious accusers I would say. Too many for the Public to keep track of...)

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      No grace period for Shaun White. Something to do with a chick in his rock band.

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      BREAKING: POP BAND HEDLEY ACCUSED OF INAPPROPRIATE CONDUCT WITH UNDERAGE GIRLS


      The head of the Juno Awards responding to allegations of sexual misconduct by Canadian pop rock group Hedley.
      Allan Reid says they are aware of the serious allegations and they are following the situation closely.
      Hedley is scheduled to perform at the March 25th awards ceremony.
      The band is also set to play the Meridian Centre in St. Catharines on March 7th.
      The allegations began surfacing Monday after a Twitter user who goes by the name of @_cndnpsycho began sharing screenshots of conversations with anonymous people who allege they are victims.
      Several other social media users have since shared allegations of inappropriate conduct with underage girls using the hashtag #outHedley2k18.
      None of these allegations have been substantiated.
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      Hold on now, teeny pop boy bands try to get underage pussy? Whaaaaaaaaaaat! Mind blown. This is a game-changer folks. Back in the day, the Beatles and the Stones checked IDs diligently before stacking teenage girls on top of each other. I for one am outraged. If I ever figure out who Hedley is, I'm gonna give those hooligans the what-for, I tell ya.

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      another Scott Baio accuser




      Another Charles in Charge co-star has come forward to accuse Scott Baio of sexual assault. At a press conference on Wednesday, Alexander Polinsky claims that Baio abused him when Polinksy was between the ages of 12 and 15, including both sexual harassment and assault. Polinksy was joined at the press conference by fellow Charles in Charge co-star Nicole Eggert, who was the first to accuse Baio of sexually abusing her during her time on the show when she was a minor. In his statement, Polinksy said he witnessed Baio acting “sexual in nature” with Eggert when she was 14 and sitting on his lap. Polinksy, who was 11 at the time, says he also sat on Baio’s lap thinking he would be told a story about Baio’s time on Happy Days. “Instead of telling us a story, Scott immediately threw me off him and began angrily calling me ‘faggot’ while Nicole laughed,” he said.

      He claims that a “pattern of abuse that was unrelenting” followed that incident, which Polinksy now believes was done in retaliation for having witnessed Baio with Eggert. He says that harassment included frequent use of homophobic slurs on set. Polinksy added, “Scott pulled down my pants in front of over 100 people. Another time, he laughed as he cut a hole in the canvas wall of my private dressing room on set and exposed his genitals to me.” He remembers Baio once apologized for throwing a “burning hot cup of tea” in his face, but then allegedly persisted with “sexual-themed hazing.” Both Polinsky and Eggert claim that multiple adults on set were aware of Baio’s behavior but feared losing their jobs if they made a complaint. They say at least ten witnesses have since spoken to police after Eggert reported Baio to the LAPD; Polinksy has also reported Baio to the police and is demanding an apology from Baio for the both of them. Baio previously denied Eggert’s claims.

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      another Scott Baio accuser




      Another Charles in Charge co-star has come forward to accuse Scott Baio of sexual assault. At a press conference on Wednesday, Alexander Polinsky claims that Baio abused him when Polinksy was between the ages of 12 and 15, including both sexual harassment and assault. Polinksy was joined at the press conference by fellow Charles in Charge co-star Nicole Eggert, who was the first to accuse Baio of sexually abusing her during her time on the show when she was a minor. In his statement, Polinksy said he witnessed Baio acting “sexual in nature” with Eggert when she was 14 and sitting on his lap. Polinksy, who was 11 at the time, says he also sat on Baio’s lap thinking he would be told a story about Baio’s time on Happy Days. “Instead of telling us a story, Scott immediately threw me off him and began angrily calling me ‘faggot’ while Nicole laughed,” he said.

      He claims that a “pattern of abuse that was unrelenting” followed that incident, which Polinksy now believes was done in retaliation for having witnessed Baio with Eggert. He says that harassment included frequent use of homophobic slurs on set. Polinksy added, “Scott pulled down my pants in front of over 100 people. Another time, he laughed as he cut a hole in the canvas wall of my private dressing room on set and exposed his genitals to me.” He remembers Baio once apologized for throwing a “burning hot cup of tea” in his face, but then allegedly persisted with “sexual-themed hazing.” Both Polinsky and Eggert claim that multiple adults on set were aware of Baio’s behavior but feared losing their jobs if they made a complaint. They say at least ten witnesses have since spoken to police after Eggert reported Baio to the LAPD; Polinksy has also reported Baio to the police and is demanding an apology from Baio for the both of them. Baio previously denied Eggert’s claims.

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      I heard Willie Aames say Baio was a bully on set. Aames said this 20 years ago.

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      Ultimark wrote: I heard Willie Aames say Baio was a bully on set. Aames said this 20 years ago.
      Well I think we all could have guessed that.

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      Yea, not a shocker but it was Aames from way back that made me have no trouble believing it. He probably did tease the kid as well. As for Eggert, I still have trouble believing it.

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      Last night, Sports Illustrated dropped a detailed account of internal sexual harassment and physical abuse complaints reported against a number of Dallas Mavericks male executives and employees, including former team president and CEO Terdema Ussery. After the team failed to soften the backlash with a preemptive statement, team owner Mark Cuban spoke with ESPN on Wednesday to offer his thoughts and an explanation for the harassment culture found in his organization.
      Cuban’s remarks were largely contained to the company’s botched handling of two separate physical assaults by former Mavs.com writer Earl Sneed. Sneed was arrested and pleaded guilty to misdemeanor charges of family violence assault and interference with emergency request in 2010; four years later, he struck a female co-worker he was dating and living with. Both times, the team was aware of the reports and still allowed him to keep his job—in the second instance of assault, the Mavericks actually had him sign a team-drafted agreement that prohibited any future “one-on-one contact” or dating of female Mavericks employees.
      In speaking with ESPN at length on the Sneed report (he declined comment on the Ussery allegations), the Mavericks owner said he regretted employing Sneed after the incidents and claimed nobody on staff read the 2010 police report.
      “I want to be clear, I’m not putting the blame on anybody else,” Cuban told ESPN. “It came down to my final decision that I made.”
      [...]
      “It was bad, but we made a mistake about the whole thing and didn’t pursue what happened with the police after the fact,” Cuban told ESPN. “So we got it mostly from Earl’s perspective, and because we didn’t dig in with the details — and obviously it was a horrible mistake in hindsight — we kind of, I don’t want to say took his word for it, but we didn’t see all the gruesome details until just recently. I didn’t read the police report on that until just [Tuesday], and that was a huge mistake obviously.”
      [...]
      “So that was my decision. What I missed, and it was truly a fuck up on my part, because I was not there [at the Mavericks’ office], I looked at everything anecdotally. My real fuck up was I didn’t recognize the impact it would have on all the other employees. I looked at this as a one-off situation where, OK, if I don’t do anything, this person could go out there and do damage on another women another time. Or do I say, can we get him counseling to try to prevent that from happening again? I thought I was doing the right thing at the time.
      “What I missed, again, is I didn’t realize the impact that it would have on the workplace and on the women that worked here and how it sent a message to them that, if it was OK for Earl to do that, who knows what else is OK in the workplace? I missed that completely. I missed it completely.”
      Cuban also claimed he did not fire Sneed because he felt that by keeping him on the books and requiring counseling, he was preventing Sneed from being hired by another team site and repeating his actions—a thought that completely dismisses the very basic idea of simply calling and informing whoever hired Sneed of his abuse history, which given the fact he assaulted another Mavs employee, seems not only the humane and decent thing to do but the legally sound thing to do. Cuban and the Mavericks did not take that course, though; they instead gave Sneed two chances and then had him sign a contract so that he would be financially incentivized not to hit his co-workers or significant others anymore. Cuban said investigators are completing an investigation to check, but that after the second time he struck a woman and faced the team’s light tap on the wrist, Sneed “appeared to abide by all those rules, as far as I knew.”
      That then brings up the question of what, exactly, Cuban knew. Recognized publicly as one of the most hands-on owners in sports, Cuban “insisted he had no knowledge of the corrosive culture in his offices,” when presented with the report by SI on Monday. On Tuesday, after SI showed him what they had on Monday, Cuban canned human resources director Buddy Pittman and suspended and later fired Sneed. He stayed true to this line on Wednesday, telling ESPN he rarely went over to the team business office and that, “because I was not there [at the Mavericks’ office], I looked at everything anecdotally.”
      Cuban and the Mavericks are now waiting on the results of an investigation into the reports involving Ussery by a New York law firm before they comment on that section of the report. Again, both the Mavericks in a statement on Tuesday and Cuban in multiple interview with SI and ESPN have claimed they were not aware of any of Ussery’s sexually aggressive history against female co-workers—this, from a man who so meticulously runs his team that he’spersonally yanked the credentials of a pair of ESPN.com writers for negative coverage and internally threatened to axe the person in charge of replays because he didn’t feel they were up to snuff.

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      Ryan Seacrest is in the cross hairs now.

      srossi
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      Monica Lewinsky has slept on things for 20 years and decided that Bill Clinton sexually assaulted her based on the power imbalance in their relationship. I can't wait to hear liberals' thoughts on this one...

      "Now, at 44, I’m beginning (just beginning) to consider the implications of the power differentials that were so vast between a president and a White House intern.  I’m beginning to entertain the notion that in such a circumstance the idea of consent might well be rendered moot." 

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      Who needs personal responsibility when you can just blame a more important/rich person?

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      Why has Billy Jack Haynes not been asked to eliminate this bitch yet?

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      If you were in your teens in the 1990s, chances are good that you personally watched Ren & Stimpy on Nickelodeon, or had friends who were obsessed with the trippy antics of the animated dog-and-cat duo. An in-depth report published yesterday at Buzzfeed has two women on the record alleging that, when they were very young teenagers, Kricfalusi had inappropriate relationships with them after promising to help start their careers in animation.
      Katie Rice, now 36, and Robyn Byrd, 37, both say they had long e-mail relationships with Kricfalusi when they were teens with more serious allegations from Byrd. The article reports on the situation in great detail with comments from co-workers who, according to Buzzfeed, “said stories of how Kricfalusi sexually harassed female artists, including teenage girls, were known through the industry. ‘It’s always been there.’” Kricfalusi never had sexual contact with Rice but he did with Byrd, who he hired to be an intern at his animation studio SpumCo. According to other employees who spoke to Buzzfeed, their relationship was an open secret and Kricfalusi showed nude and sexually explicit photographs of Byrd at company parties.
      Nickelodeon declined to comment on the allegations but Buzzfeed received a statement via Kricfalusi’s lawyer which states in part, “For a brief time, 25 years ago, he had a 16-year-old girlfriend.”
      It’s the kind of story that’s coming to light more and more of late but this one is particularly gross. You can read the full report here.

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      It's getting to the point where co-workers don't see, "Wow, that dress really makes your tits pop" as the compliment it should be.

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      LOL...more like it's to the point you may as well say that exactly, you get treated the same as if you said "Gee I like that dress".

      Might as well get your moneys worth out of getting canned. :)



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