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 Posted: Tue Nov 7th, 2017 06:13 pm
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I can explain Backlund acting like he did. Sort of. Back then the champions acted like the championship belt was what they lived for and their world would end if they didn't have it.

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I did love the heel turn much later though. 

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srossi wrote: KGB wrote: Ultimark wrote: I hated it when it happened. I never like Backlund when he was a face and I really didn't like this version of Superstar. Never know what Vince Sr. saw in Backlund.
Whatever your opinion of Backlund, there's no denying that Sr. made a shit ton of scratch off him.   

I wonder if he would've made more with someone else.  The WWWF was a machine, much as it is today.  It's hard to completely tank that.  Anyone who gets pushed to that level is going to be successful as part of the machine, but I feel like money was left on the table by going to Backlund much as it was going to Cena.  Certainly a face turn and longer SSBG run would've made Vince Sr. more.  I have no doubt about that.
The WWF wasn't the machine it is today. Nowadays people are going to see a brand only. Back then it was built on the back of the champion. There was no room for failure. Backlund drew strong all up and down the circuit year after year.. How could Graham have done any better? They weren't going to be doing Yankee Stadium every month. It's revisionist history to say that Graham should have had a face turn and continued on for another two years as a face champ. It's fun to think about but it wouldn't have improved what was a tried and true business plan.



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WongLee wrote: srossi wrote: KGB wrote: Ultimark wrote: I hated it when it happened. I never like Backlund when he was a face and I really didn't like this version of Superstar. Never know what Vince Sr. saw in Backlund.
Whatever your opinion of Backlund, there's no denying that Sr. made a shit ton of scratch off him.   

I wonder if he would've made more with someone else.  The WWWF was a machine, much as it is today.  It's hard to completely tank that.  Anyone who gets pushed to that level is going to be successful as part of the machine, but I feel like money was left on the table by going to Backlund much as it was going to Cena.  Certainly a face turn and longer SSBG run would've made Vince Sr. more.  I have no doubt about that.
The WWF wasn't the machine it is today. Nowadays people are going to see a brand only. Back then it was built on the back of the champion. There was no room for failure. Backlund drew strong all up and down the circuit year after year.. How could Graham have done any better? They weren't going to be doing Yankee Stadium every month. It's revisionist history to say that Graham should have had a face turn and continued on for another two years as a face champ. It's fun to think about but it wouldn't have improved what was a tried and true business plan.

I'm not suggesting it was anything like today, but it wasn't exactly a mom and pop outfit like Vince likes to pretend either.  Vince Sr. created a formulaic approach and used that strategy to dominate many of America's top markets (NYC, Boston, Philly) for years.  Yes the fans bought tickets more for the wrestlers than the brand at the time, but Vince Sr. had a stranglehold on most of those fans and the fans went along for the ride and didn't fight back.  When someone got pushed, the fans generally accepted it and they drew within reasonable parameters.



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I believe the blow-off to this was the Lumberjack matches, one of which resulted in a Swede Hanson face turn.

The champion should never cry the way Backlund did. I didn't watch this growing up but I would have laughed at Backlund.  Graham was way past it here as well.



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