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 Posted: Sun Jan 7th, 2018 03:15 am
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I certainly liked it, though it felt rushed at the end, and could do without the Vince farting chapter.

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srossi wrote: I finished the book and it was great up until he got to the WWF, at which point the level of detail diminished greatly and it became a series of really short 2-3 page chapters that glosses over some major things. Does anyone know if the book’s completion was affected by Scott Williams’ death?
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The Ultimate Sin wrote: srossi wrote: I finished the book and it was great up until he got to the WWF, at which point the level of detail diminished greatly and it became a series of really short 2-3 page chapters that glosses over some major things. Does anyone know if the book’s completion was affected by Scott Williams’ death?
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Yes. He died while working on the book. 



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 Posted: Mon Jan 8th, 2018 12:07 am
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Tammy's book is very good so far .. looking at her in an all new light

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srossi wrote: Franchise wrote: Did Jim say how he felt about leaving WCW as the lead announcer and ending up on the C show in the WWF?

even if he doesn't admit it I'm sure that was a tough pill to swallow once the realization sat in.

Someone might say it was the same position that Tony had when he jumped but I don't believe Tony fashioned himself a top announcer like Jim did.

in the end it all worked out but looking back it just seems a little funny.

He talks about making his debut at WM and then basically being benched and released.  He had signed a 1 year contract in that first run and wasn't really used beyond WM much.  He mentions that the same thing happened to Schiavone where he was 1 and done and back in WCW and that he figured the same thing would happen to him. 

In addition to WM he worked the first King of the Ring PPV.  He replaced Gorilla Monsoon on Wrestling Challenge and did Radio WWF. So in a way he did follow the same path as Schiavone who also did two PPVs,  Challenge, and worked on producing the Coliseum Home Videos. I'm sure like Tony, Vince pulled Ross from working the big shows because he thought he was too Southern for everybody's taste.

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Tony Schiavone had a very neutral sounding voice that I don't think could be construed as Southern sounding, certainly not to the degree of Jim Ross. It never seemed to hinder his career advancement during his year in the WWF. Tony had a good spot with the WWF. He called Summerslam with Jesse Ventura in August of 1989. Gorilla Monsoon took the play by play spot for Survivor Series. Tony then called the Royal Rumble in 1990 not long before leaving. He said at the time, and I've never heard anything to go against it, that his family just could not adjust to living in Connecticut and after giving it a try for a year, they decided to move back to Atlanta when an opportunity for Tony to rejoin WCW came up. My understanding is Jim Ross having issues stemmed from a combination of Vince getting into a control freak mode due to pressure as the feds were closing in and Jim supposedly talking out of school to people in the business but outside the WWF about what was going on internally.

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Bruce Prichard has said that Vince wanted Tony to take speech lessons because he felt that he had a bit of an accent. 

Tony himself said that when he first came aboard Vince told him he was looking for someone to replace him as the voice of the WWF. He was seemingly selected to be that person, but as time went on and Vince got a chance to listen to his work he was not much of a fan because of the alleged accent or maybe otherwise and that's why he thinks he ended up being pulled from PPV commentary duty. They kind of gave him the run around about Survivor Series until he definitively found out he was not doing it and IIRC the Royal Rumble was a last minute decision by Vince. I think something happened to Monsoon healthwise where he was unable to do it and Vince had too much going on where he didn't really want to do it himself so he put Tony in.

He went back to WCW because living in Connecticut was too expensive, they missed their family in the South, and because Jim Herd offered him more money and a chance to maybe do play by play for the Braves at some point since they were both under the Turner umbrella. After about a week Tony said he called Vince's office and told them he made a mistake in leaving and wanted to come back since Vince had told him the door was always open. However, they told him that all the moving wasn't good for his family and to just give it a chance.

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tamalie wrote: Tony Schiavone had a very neutral sounding voice that I don't think could be construed as Southern sounding, certainly not to the degree of Jim Ross. It never seemed to hinder his career advancement during his year in the WWF. Tony had a good spot with the WWF. He called Summerslam with Jesse Ventura in August of 1989. Gorilla Monsoon took the play by play spot for Survivor Series. Tony then called the Royal Rumble in 1990 not long before leaving. He said at the time, and I've never heard anything to go against it, that his family just could not adjust to living in Connecticut and after giving it a try for a year, they decided to move back to Atlanta when an opportunity for Tony to rejoin WCW came up. My understanding is Jim Ross having issues stemmed from a combination of Vince getting into a control freak mode due to pressure as the feds were closing in and Jim supposedly talking out of school to people in the business but outside the WWF about what was going on internally.
Before his podcast became silliness, Tony said he was not scheduled to call the Royal Rumble. His claim is that Vince was supposed to, but at a meeting the day of the show decided that he did not feel like doing it. That's how he said that he got that gig.

He also feels like he was misled about not doing Survivor Series because Vince would not tell him to his face that he was not doing it. 

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JR talks about Gorilla’s health issues being one of the main reasons he got another chance, as well as the debacle involving Art Donovan where Vince realized he was getting thin in the announcing ranks and could never allow that to happpen again.

For the record, JR is super complimentary towards Gorilla and basically credits him for his entire WWE career as without his stamp of approval when he was new and being bullied he never would’ve lasted.  Even aside from Vince’s hot and cold attitude towards him, he claims the locker room was really brutal to him until Gorilla told a few to knock it off. 

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