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 Posted: Wed Jan 24th, 2018 06:08 pm
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1988 - Jim Crockett Promotions holds their second ever pay-per-view, The Bunkhouse Stampede, live from Nassau Coliseum in Uniondale, New York. Much like their first PPV, Starrcade '87, there were several factors working against the show. The WWF once again provided competition, although not with a PPV event (Survivor Series) at the same time (cable companies refused to allow WWF and the NWA to have head-to-head PPV events again after the Starrcade-Survivor Series fiasco in November). Instead, WWF offered the first Royal Rumble on USA Network, opposite the PPV. Also, Jim Crockett Promotions held the event outside of their usual strongholds in the South, infuriating fans that were already insulted by Starrcade being held in Chicago the previous year. On top of that, a ticketing snafu resulted in many tickets being printed with incorrect start times. A majority of fans walked into the building during the next-to-last match on the show, and the entire card was under two hours long, annoying the live audience.

 The results of the show were:

 - In a dark match (that was actually carried on many cable systems, as cameras were rolling), Jimmy Garvin and Sting defeated The Sheepherders (Butch Miller and Luke Williams) by disqualification.

 - NWA World Television Champion Nikita Koloff fought Bobby Eaton to a 20-minute time-limit draw to retain the title.

 - Larry Zbyszko (with Baby Doll) pinned NWA Western States Heritage Champion Barry Windham to win the title, after hitting Windham with Baby Doll's shoe.

 - Road Warrior Hawk defeated NWA World Heavyweight Champion Ric Flair by disqualification, after Flair hit Hawk with a steel chair.

 - Dusty Rhodes won the Steel Cage Bunkhouse Stampede battle royal, last eliminating The Barbarian. Also in the match were: Arn Anderson, Tully Blanchard, Ivan Koloff, Lex Luger, Road Warrior Animal and The Warlord.

1988 - In direct competition to the NWA Bunkhouse Stampede pay-per-view, the WWF presented the first ever Royal Rumble, aired live on USA Network, from Copps Coliseum in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. The show featured the contract signing for WWF Champion Hulk Hogan and Andre the Giant's title match to take place at February 5's Main Event, as well as Dino Bravo attempting to break the world benchpress record of 712 pounds, which he did, with help from Jesse Ventura.

The results were:

 - Ricky Steamboat defeated Rick Rude by disqualification, after Rude pulled the referee in the way while Steamboat jumped off the top rope.

 - The Jumping Bomb Angels (Noriyo Tateno and Itsuki Yamazaki) defeated WWF Women's Tag Team Champions The Glamour Girls (Leilani Kai and Judy Martin (with Jimmy Hart)) in a two out of three falls match, to win the title. In the first fall, Martin pinned Yamazaki after a reverse powerbomb. Yamazaki pinned Kai with a sunset flip to win fall #2, and Tateno pinned Martin after a double missile dropkick for the third fall.

 - Jim Duggan, entering from the #13 spot, last eliminating the One Man Gang (#19) to win the Royal Rumble match. This Rumble match, unlike all the others, had only 20 entrants. Bret Hart (#1) lasted 25 minutes and 42 seconds in the ring, the longest to be in the ring.

 - The Islanders (Haku & Tama) defeated The Young Stallions (Jim Powers & Paul Roma) in two straight falls of a three fall match.



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For once in that era, the WWF's card was actually more intriguing than the NWA's, in terms of workrate and potential for quality matches. I don't even remember if my cable company offered The Bunkhouse Stampede, but it didn't matter since I watched the Royal Rumble anyway.

I question the theory that holding PPV's in northern cities is something that helped killed Crockett's business. That seems like something Dave Meltzer posited at some point and it became accepted gospel. I just don't see how you could prove that. I believe that individual cities could get killed off by making the Horsemen look like goofs or by running the Dusty finish too many times, but I'm not sure I buy that idea that fans in the southeast turned their back on the promotion because Chicago and NYC hosted big shows. Are you saying Greensboro have stayed strong if these PPV's were held in Atlanta? That just doesn't wash with me.



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I remember thinking it was awesome that an event as cool as the Royal Rumble was on free TV instead of the traditional squash match extravaganza!



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I recall photos from Uniondale having Earl Hebner officiating some matches. Just 2 weeks later he would be in Indianapolis doing the twin referee gimmick with brother Dave.

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Best memory of this was Apter mags coming down hard On Crockett for the Bunkhouse fiasco, which was unusual if not unheard of at the time. I think the Bunkhouse tickets had an incorrect starting time printed on them, and there was backlash about Dusty winning again.



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The bunkhouse card was terrible and the concept of the bunkhouse match was so stupid.

2 life long tag wrestlers battling for singles titles wasn’t going to do it that’s for sure.

I know JCP was on life support but some how they should have figured out how to bring in some ex WWF talent for a some TVs leading up to this and then have the JCP guys go over or bring someone in from AJPW for a “dream match” with Flair. Or just cancel the show, they couldn’t have made more than a couple of bucks on this fiasco



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KGB wrote: For once in that era, the WWF's card was actually more intriguing than the NWA's, in terms of workrate and potential for quality matches. I don't even remember if my cable company offered The Bunkhouse Stampede, but it didn't matter since I watched the Royal Rumble anyway.

I question the theory that holding PPV's in northern cities is something that helped killed Crockett's business. That seems like something Dave Meltzer posited at some point and it became accepted gospel. I just don't see how you could prove that. I believe that individual cities could get killed off by making the Horsemen look like goofs or by running the Dusty finish too many times, but I'm not sure I buy that idea that fans in the southeast turned their back on the promotion because Chicago and NYC hosted big shows. Are you saying Greensboro have stayed strong if these PPV's were held in Atlanta? That just doesn't wash with me.

I don’t think running PPV’s and big show in new markets was the only reason JCP failed but I think JCP could have done a better job of respecting the region that supported them for so long. The card they showed live in Greensboro in conjunction with the Starrcade 87 PPV feed was terrible. I know they had to put the best card possible together for the live crowd in Chicago but damn mighty Wilbur was the main event. I’m not a tv person but maybe they should have done 75% of the show in Chicago and done 25% in Greensboro with added dark matches in each city.

Ultimately I think JCP failed because they didn’t do a good job of building new stars. they pretty much ran what seemed to be the same combination of talent around the horn time and time again in 86 and 87. Outside of Sting how many new stars did the UWF purchase net JCP? The freebirds were new but they weren’t, Dr Death stuck around for awhile but didn’t pan out, Rick Steiner became a real star once he and Scott hooked up but who else? 


I don’t think Greensboro would have been happy if Starrcade was in Atlanta either. Most people aren’t going to drive that far on thanksgiving. Greensboro probably would have stayed strong longer if Starrcade stayed in Greensboro, it was a tradition for the fans of that area to go to wrestling on thanksgiving night dating way back but bunkhouse and the rest of the PPV’s didn’t have sentimental attachment to an area on a certain time of the year. JCP had to expand but it shouldn’t have started with Starrcade. 

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They had a PPV, so trying to make it special for a paying audience.

And what are the results?

DQ.
Time limit draw.
Interference pin.
DQ.

Brilliant.



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The Rumble card also had a couple of segments in between the matches - Hulk and Andre signed the contract for their Feb 5 NBC match, and then Dino Bravo tried to set the benchpress record with Jesse's help.



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I re-watched that first Rumble a few years ago and it was funny to see heels and faces still 100% segregated throughout. Pretty much defeated the purpose of the concept.  The following year on PPV it wasn't as bad and some faces and heels mixed it up, but not a lot.

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I like to joke that the first Rumble was the start of "dissension in Strike Force" as Rick Martel was perfectly okay with letting his partner enter, alone.



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srossi wrote: I re-watched that first Rumble a few years ago and it was funny to see heels and faces still 100% segregated throughout.  

I'm glad you clarified, because at first I thought you meant One Man Gang wouldn't let Slick drink out of the same locker room water fountain.



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Blazer wrote: srossi wrote: I re-watched that first Rumble a few years ago and it was funny to see heels and faces still 100% segregated throughout.  

I'm glad you clarified, because at first I thought you meant One Man Gang wouldn't let Slick drink out of the same locker room water fountain.

One Man Gang wound up being African so he’d never do that. 



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Touche :)



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I recently looked at the history of the WWE site to see some of the JCP house shows around this time and they were terrible.

The other thing I found interesting was that JCP ran a house show in Florida the same night as the stampede.



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