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 Posted: Mon Feb 19th, 2018 09:40 am
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What is everyone's feelings on 6 man tag matches?


I've been watching a lot of AJPW from the early to mid 90's lately and they were pumping out the 6 man's and I really enjoyed them. I used to like seeing them in the WWF back in the 80's as well it seemed like a staple as a main event on the syndicated shows and the person taking the pin in the WWF matches were usually obvious at the introductions but I still found them entertaining. 


a story line can be advanced by letting someone get a pin without giving to much away while still building people up and creating intrigue for the actual desired match. 


However I think 6 man tag titles are a terrible idea and kind of ruins the 6 man as a way to progress a storyline without giving to much away. 

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 Posted: Mon Feb 19th, 2018 04:10 pm
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Meh. They are just another match. The wrestler A pins wrestler B angle can be done in any tag match. There is no special psychology to a six-man tag match, at least in WWE and other mainstream US wrestling. When I see a 6-man tag match announced, there's no excitement that I might see something I otherwise would not. On the indies, they use the extra men to set up some fun multi-man spots, which NXT has used once or twice, but the main roster wold never do. The no-tagging rule in lucha matches can make for some fun matches in Mexico.

Titles don't work for a couple of reasons. One, you have to keep more guys fit to work, which shouldn't really be a problem, but it seemed like the title matches in World Class always had to sub someone, and the three that won the title wouldn't be the three that lost it. The other reason is that they are waaaaay down the pecking order of titles, so they get no attention in the booking, as with the WCW version of the title. No one will take a title seriously when the State Patrol are challenging for it on a PPV.

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 Posted: Mon Feb 19th, 2018 07:12 pm
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In Japan they're mostly used as filler on all the house shows to give the main event guys a chance to rest and let the undercard guys do the majority of the work. This is actually the majority of the schedule in Japan.



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 Posted: Mon Feb 19th, 2018 07:21 pm
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Agree with what's above. Six man tag belts are a colossal waste of time, mostly because there are never enough permanent 6 man teams to make a division competitive. On the other hand, tag matches with more than 4 people in them have produced some of the best matches ever. I'm thinking about the 8 man tag match that set up on the 1991 War Games, or the 10 man match on RAW that featured the debut of the Radicalz. Sometimes those matches just click. The AJPW six-man matches are great examples. They had interchangeable participants, feuds, and finishing holds. It took them a few years to really exhaust all the possibilities of how to lay out the matches.



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 Posted: Mon Feb 19th, 2018 09:54 pm
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The most I like are standard 2 vs 2 tag team matches. Too much going on inside and outside the ring to keep track of- my simple, linear mind only can take 4 maximum!

Battle Royals, I don't even pay attention until it's down to the final 3-4.

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 Posted: Tue Feb 20th, 2018 12:13 am
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You know how in lucha everything is choreographed as shit AND looks like shit? You know how they always do the same match?

Now imagine that with 4 more guys on the ring. 3 times staged. 3 times the fun. Plus these wrestlers rarely ever have the opportunity to do anything other than 6-man tags so they must be extremelly carefully and do the exact thing every time. So you`re saying you`re a 400-pound guy with no legs and a sailorman gimmick? Good now go and do those darn headscissors kid you`ll tell us later.

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The six mans worked in Japan in the late 80s and early 90s because they were used in the text of the ongoing storyline. Plus they only had an hour a week to fill. You had a clear hierarchy with the senior members of the team and then their junior counterparts. You had heavyweights and then clear junior heavyweights. You had new comers, playing the the rookie, newcomer role and building their way up over time. Just like the storylines you have in real sports. So you could have Misawa, Kobashi, and Kikuchi vs. Jumbo, Taue, and Fuchi. You could mix it up with Taue and Fuchi challenging Misawa somewhat and only misawa being able to stand up to Jumbo. Then do it again and let Kobashi be able to get an advantage on Jumbo. kikuchi would have to have the match of his life to hang with them.

There was a story, a progression, a sense of logic. And it worked.

Modern WWE is everyone is equal. NFL style parity. And it lends itself to no one being great.

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