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 Posted: Mon Mar 5th, 2018 05:42 pm
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The Yankees are maxed out big time with Stanton and, eventually, they will need to take care of Judge although that is about 4 or 5 years from now. They are already paying luxury tax. Paid almost $16m in 17. Signing Harper would probably put them in the $35m range. I don't see that.

Harper can probably get $45m from the Phils per year for 10 to 12 years. An insane contract but Middleton is dying to spend money now. He hates losing. Harper would also be the perfect fit for Philly with his heel attitude and a perfect fit the lineup. The Dodgers also have a high payroll and want to sign Kershaw to a long deal. They would also have lux tax issues. The Phillies are in the ideal spot. T They can sign him and have no lux tax at all. However, they will need another top shelf starter.

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Wow - Dodgers paid $36m in lux tax last year.

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Ultimark wrote: The Yankees are maxed out big time with Stanton and, eventually, they will need to take care of Judge although that is about 4 or 5 years from now. They are already paying luxury tax. Paid almost $16m in 17. Signing Harper would probably put them in the $35m range. I don't see that.

Harper can probably get $45m from the Phils per year for 10 to 12 years. An insane contract but Middleton is dying to spend money now. He hates losing. Harper would also be the perfect fit for Philly with his heel attitude and a perfect fit the lineup. The Dodgers also have a high payroll and want to sign Kershaw to a long deal. They would also have lux tax issues. The Phillies are in the ideal spot. T They can sign him and have no lux tax at all. However, they will need another top shelf starter.

Yankees aren't close to being maxed out, as ridiculous as it sounds.  This year, both A-Rod and Teixeira are completely off the books, as is the piece of McCann's contract that they had last year.  As of right now they are approximately $10m under the threshold for the luxury tax in 2018.  This means if they continue deep enough into 2018 that they don't add new money to the payroll, they will then fall under the cap, and for the first time ever not have to pay the tax.  What that does to the team is that they then get a "reset", and the 50% Luxury Tax that the pay currently will get knocked back to 10% or some ridiculous number.

In all honesty, Luria giftwrapped Stanton to the Yankees with the way he structured the contract.  He built it with small pay at the beginning with progressive raises going forward.  He did that because he knew he wouldn't be around at the end of it.  And the Yankees have never, ever looked 5 years forward because they try to win now all the time.  For them being the Yankees, 2018 couldn't be a better time for them to get under the cap.



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Superstar wrote: Ultimark wrote: The Yankees are maxed out big time with Stanton and, eventually, they will need to take care of Judge although that is about 4 or 5 years from now. They are already paying luxury tax. Paid almost $16m in 17. Signing Harper would probably put them in the $35m range. I don't see that.

Harper can probably get $45m from the Phils per year for 10 to 12 years. An insane contract but Middleton is dying to spend money now. He hates losing. Harper would also be the perfect fit for Philly with his heel attitude and a perfect fit the lineup. The Dodgers also have a high payroll and want to sign Kershaw to a long deal. They would also have lux tax issues. The Phillies are in the ideal spot. T They can sign him and have no lux tax at all. However, they will need another top shelf starter.

Yankees aren't close to being maxed out, as ridiculous as it sounds.  This year, both A-Rod and Teixeira are completely off the books, as is the piece of McCann's contract that they had last year.  As of right now they are approximately $10m under the threshold for the luxury tax in 2018.  This means if they continue deep enough into 2018 that they don't add new money to the payroll, they will then fall under the cap, and for the first time ever not have to pay the tax.  What that does to the team is that they then get a "reset", and the 50% Luxury Tax that the pay currently will get knocked back to 10% or some ridiculous number.

In all honesty, Luria giftwrapped Stanton to the Yankees with the way he structured the contract.  He built it with small pay at the beginning with progressive raises going forward.  He did that because he knew he wouldn't be around at the end of it.  And the Yankees have never, ever looked 5 years forward because they try to win now all the time.  For them being the Yankees, 2018 couldn't be a better time for them to get under the cap.
Still see Harper in a Phils uniform.   I see Trout as a Yankee eventually.  Most in Philly think he will be here because he is from the area.  I don't see it.  Too long to wait.  

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Ultimark wrote: Superstar wrote: Ultimark wrote: The Yankees are maxed out big time with Stanton and, eventually, they will need to take care of Judge although that is about 4 or 5 years from now. They are already paying luxury tax. Paid almost $16m in 17. Signing Harper would probably put them in the $35m range. I don't see that.

Harper can probably get $45m from the Phils per year for 10 to 12 years. An insane contract but Middleton is dying to spend money now. He hates losing. Harper would also be the perfect fit for Philly with his heel attitude and a perfect fit the lineup. The Dodgers also have a high payroll and want to sign Kershaw to a long deal. They would also have lux tax issues. The Phillies are in the ideal spot. T They can sign him and have no lux tax at all. However, they will need another top shelf starter.

Yankees aren't close to being maxed out, as ridiculous as it sounds.  This year, both A-Rod and Teixeira are completely off the books, as is the piece of McCann's contract that they had last year.  As of right now they are approximately $10m under the threshold for the luxury tax in 2018.  This means if they continue deep enough into 2018 that they don't add new money to the payroll, they will then fall under the cap, and for the first time ever not have to pay the tax.  What that does to the team is that they then get a "reset", and the 50% Luxury Tax that the pay currently will get knocked back to 10% or some ridiculous number.

In all honesty, Luria giftwrapped Stanton to the Yankees with the way he structured the contract.  He built it with small pay at the beginning with progressive raises going forward.  He did that because he knew he wouldn't be around at the end of it.  And the Yankees have never, ever looked 5 years forward because they try to win now all the time.  For them being the Yankees, 2018 couldn't be a better time for them to get under the cap.
Still see Harper in a Phils uniform.   I see Trout as a Yankee eventually.  Most in Philly think he will be here because he is from the area.  I don't see it.  Too long to wait. 

I don't think the Yankees are looking at Harper.  I think they are looking at Machado.



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