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Is anyone gonna watch this or have any interest in it ?  The show starts on Mar. 27.
In the show, Rosanne's character has voted for Trump. Sounds like an All In The Family rip-off.

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I will give it a go. DVR set.

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I'm more excited about Cobra Kai. Been waiting a long time for Johnny to shut that swarthy little dago's mouth.

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Cobra Kai... say it!!

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I’ll give it a chance since I liked the original, but I’m expecting this to be awful. And I really hope they don’t make it political. Everyone is so burned out on that shit.

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WongLee wrote: I'm more excited about Cobra Kai. Been waiting a long time for Johnny to shut that swarthy little dago's mouth.Cobra Kai looks good. Nice to see the guy get his own show.

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lobo316 wrote: Is anyone gonna watch this or have any interest in it ?  The show starts on Mar. 27.
In the show, Rosanne's character has voted for Trump. Sounds like an All In The Family rip-off.

I'll  say it gets cancelled  in its  third season.

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Rosanne was the original trash TV show.

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I absolute HATE remakes, but for Roseanne, they are mostly using same characters and actors.

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I don't know what happened to Darlene but she looks like the ugliest dude on the planet now. And which Becky is coming back?

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srossi wrote: I don't know what happened to Darlene but she looks like the ugliest dude on the planet now. And which Becky is coming back?

Sara Gilbert has been tipping the velvet for many years, so she is unlikely to be perturbed by you not finding her attractive. The original Becky is coming back, with the second Becky having a guest role as a different character.

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Kriss wrote: srossi wrote: I don't know what happened to Darlene but she looks like the ugliest dude on the planet now. And which Becky is coming back?

Sara Gilbert has been tipping the velvet for many years, so she is unlikely to be perturbed by you not finding her attractive. The original Becky is coming back, with the second Becky having a guest role as a different character.

I know she's a lesbian but I've seen a lot of lesbians and they don't look like her.  She actually looks sickly. 

And on the show didn't she marry the guy who is now a huge star on "The Big Bang Theory"?

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srossi wrote:
I know she's a lesbian but I've seen a lot of lesbians and they don't look like her.  She actually looks sickly. 

Fuck you for body shaming her. Just because she doesn't live up to your twisted standards of what a woman should look like. And fuck you for calling her a lesbian, what if she identifies as a lesbian plus something else. We'll know how to take care of Nazi's like you after the midterms are done.

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Barr and Goodman are cover features of the latest AARP magazine and both are 65 now... far removed from the pressures of the original series, the article showcases their enjoyment of working together and getting each other to crack up. It will be interesting to see if their enlightenment translates to that of the characters dealing with modern day topics.

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srossi wrote: Kriss wrote: srossi wrote: I don't know what happened to Darlene but she looks like the ugliest dude on the planet now. And which Becky is coming back?

Sara Gilbert has been tipping the velvet for many years, so she is unlikely to be perturbed by you not finding her attractive. The original Becky is coming back, with the second Becky having a guest role as a different character.

I know she's a lesbian but I've seen a lot of lesbians and they don't look like her.  She actually looks sickly. 

And on the show didn't she marry the guy who is now a huge star on "The Big Bang Theory"?
Johnny Gaelicki is scheduled  to make one appearance in season one.

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"Rosanne" had great ratings from the start, but the first season was a bit choppy. The show took flight creatively once Rosanne and Tom Arnold seized creative control. It's easy to rip on both of them, but they got the show and its characters. More importantly, and in a role for which he rarely received recognition, Tom Arnold protected the writers from the extremes of Rosanne's personality and behavior while also selling their ideas to her when there was a disagreement. That led to the show hitting its stride creatively and in the ratings for several years. When Tom and Rosanne split up, the writers lost their protector and many were gone and replaced by others that were more compliant with the star. The show started on a slow, but steady decline that culminated in the insane and nearly unwatchable final season that was a gigantic ego trip for Rosanne who by that time had no one remotely attempting to limit her.

My take is that she probably recognizes how awful and out control that last season was and that they'll probably wipe it from existence somehow. One interesting thing about her character being a Trump supporter now is that the character back then was played as someone you'd expect to be very much behind the liberal side of the Democratic party more and more as the show went on. It would be interesting to see if there is any addressing of that switch in ideology and, if so, how.

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Not a bad show tonight. Several humorous spots. It has a All In The Family feel to it with Roseanne as Archie and Jackie as Meathead.

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The 1st episode revolved almost entirely around politics and the jokes already were hopelessly dated - pussy hats and pantsuit jokes. I was embarrassed for them. And then everyone made up in 22 minutes. Just horrendous. At least no one can accuse them of liberal bias because they portrayed Aunt Jackie to be such a kook that it destroyed her character but certainly didn’t make liberals look good. 

The 2nd episode was much better, but they’re trying way too hard with the tranny kid, the black kid, and all the other tropes.

At least they’re still the ugliest family on TV. That alone makes the show stand out after all these years because no on on TV looks like them. 2 fat old parents, Darlene looks like she has AIDS, Becky sounds like she smokes 10 packs a day, and D.J. grew up to be a weird-looking man-child.

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I was entertained for maybe 5 minutes.

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I was entertained for maybe 5 minutes.

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Monster ratings for "Roseanne" as it drew 17.7 million for episode 1 and that actually increased to 18.2 million for episode 2.  It managed to get substantially better ratings than its final season in 1997, which of course was a completely different era when sitcoms drew much higher ratings in general.  In comparison, a decent showing for "The Big Bang Theory", by far the most popular sitcom today, also gets about 18 million.

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It probably got a big audience in large part due to the curiosity factor and will fall off, but ought to get healthy ratings by current standards.

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I will continue to watch until it gets repetitive or goes way over the top which could very likely occur.

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Is Sarah Chalke back?  Always been hot for her.

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Blazer wrote: Is Sarah Chalke back?  Always been hot for her.She plays Andrea in the re-boot

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I laughed like hell. To each his own.

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srossi wrote: The 1st episode revolved almost entirely around politics and the jokes already were hopelessly dated - pussy hats and pantsuit jokes. I was embarrassed for them. And then everyone made up in 22 minutes. Just horrendous. At least no one can accuse them of liberal bias because they portrayed Aunt Jackie to be such a kook that it destroyed her character but certainly didn’t make liberals look good. 

The 2nd episode was much better, but they’re trying way too hard with the tranny kid, the black kid, and all the other tropes.

At least they’re still the ugliest family on TV. That alone makes the show stand out after all these years because no on on TV looks like them. 2 fat old parents, Darlene looks like she has AIDS, Becky sounds like she smokes 10 packs a day, and D.J. grew up to be a weird-looking man-child.
So, you're saying the show is staying true to form. Might have to check it out. Thanks for the great review.

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Maybe I saw a half a dozen of the episodes from the first go around so I am not the best source. It was OK. Kind of agree with Rossi that they are trying a bit hard on certain things. Clearly, they want to represent the entire political spectrum somehow. Gotta be honest - prefer the fat John Goodman. This version looks creepy to me.

I see this as a show that people will watch initially for the curiosity factor. The humor is pretty good for a network show but there are so many other options that are better than this. In today's world a show can survive even with a modest amount of viewers. This one probably will unless Roseanne does something to fuck it up.

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Donald Trump’s shadow may have loomed large over the premier of ABC’s reboot ofRoseanne, but one of the show’s stars says the debate about presidential politics was a one-time event.
Sara Gilbert, who plays Darlene, said it was never the intention of the show to focus on politics—or to align itself with the president.
“The Conners aren’t Trump supporters. Roseanne’s character is a Trump supporter — she’s the only one — and we never say his name, actually, in the show,” she said during an appearance on Watch What Happens Live.
Roseanne Barr, like her character Roseanne, is an outspoken Trump supporter—and some parties believe it was that support that helped draw in viewers. The show pulled in an incredibly strong 21.9 million viewers last week, and Barr even received a congratulatory phone call from Trump.

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The last couple of episodes have been much better. I think they’ve killed Jackie's character and made her a loon, but other than that the writing and acting have gotten better with each episode.

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Totally disagree with that. The last episode seemed to really hit the wall. Very bad attempts at scripted humor. Started to get into mushy/life lessons bullshit. I really enjoyed the show until the last episode. Hoping that episode was just a bump in the road.

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Benlen wrote: I was entertained for maybe 5 minutes.Double post, so were you actually entertained for 10 minutes?

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Wife forced me to watch again. Now have seen more episodes of the reboot than I did the original. There are so many better things to watch on Netflix, Amazon and so on. Why continue to waste my time on this? My wife agreed that the last episode wasn't as good.

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I think they're getting closer to the tone of the original show. It's a network sitcom, it's not going to be "Breaking Bad". There's only a handful of network sitcoms that reach the level of an objective good ("Mom", "The Good Place", a couple of others). You have to grade sitcoms on a curve against other crap. In that regard, I really think it's starting to hit it's stride, although Aunt Jackie's portrayal is such a channel-changer for me.

I tried to sample the first episodes of some new sitcoms with decent casts. I tried "Alex Inc." with Zach Braff from "Scrubs" and figured it had to be at least decent by sitcom standards. I was wrong. It's as bad as anything I've seen on TV in years. I tried "Splitting Up Together" with Jenna Fischer of "The Office" and I was one and done on that. It absolutely is hard to justify wasting time on crappy sitcoms when we're in a golden age of TV on premium and streaming channels (although that golden age admittedly might be coming to an end because some of those new shows are hit or miss now too - I'm watching "Barry" on HBO but it's hardly an HBO-level grand slam). But I judge sitcoms against other sitcoms, it's like winning a medal in the Special Olympics but you don't think any of them are going to beat Carl Lewis. And compared to say the "Will & Grace" reboot, "Roseanne" is showing some promise for me.

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Ultimark wrote: Wife forced me to watch again. Now have seen more episodes of the reboot than I did the original. There are so many better things to watch on Netflix, Amazon and so on. Why continue to waste my time on this? My wife agreed that the last episode wasn't as good.

Last episode was awful.  

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The biggest challenge with TV now is that there are so many good things to watch when you count all the cable TV shows (HBO, Show, Starz) and Netflix, Amazon. Even WGN has had a couple of good shows. Not to mention FX, Sundance and AMC. I just don't see what standard network tv has to offer.

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Trump supporters were really sold a bill of goods with this show, and the liberals boycotting it look as stupid as ever.  Last night, Roseanne got Muslim neighbors and it was a textbook "All in the Family" episode where she said racist things, looked stupid, and learned a valuable lesson at the end and wound up standing up for them.  This is in no way a conservative show.  Even in the B storyline where Dan loses a job to illegal immigrants he blamed the guy who hired them and not the immigrants themselves.  I fail to see how this is much different than any other show on TV, but everyone keeps politicizing it and writing ridiculously long reviews dissecting every sentence and finding something to complain about either way.

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Look back a few weeks ago. I said this was going to be the modern version of “All In The Family’”.

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Wow, ABC just cancelled the show after Roseanne made what was deemed a racist tweet. 

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/29/abc-cancels-roseanne-barrs-sitcom-after-her-tweet-about-black-obama-aide-valerie-jarrett.html

ABC announced on Tuesday that it would cancel the sitcom "Roseanne" following "abhorrent" comments from the star, Roseanne Barr, who had compared former Obama advisor Valerie Jarrett to an ape.

"Roseanne's Twitter statement is abhorrent, repugnant and inconsistent with our values, and we have decided to cancel her show," Channing Dungey, president of ABC Entertainment, said in a statement Tuesday.

Roseanne had apologized for her comments, in which she compared Jarrett to an ape, earlier in the day.

Barr said of Jarrett in the since-deleted tweet: "muslim brotherhood & planet of the apes had a baby=vj."

"I apologize to Valerie Jarrett and to all Americans," Barr wrote on Twitter. "I am truly sorry for making a bad joke about her politics and her looks. I should have known better. Forgive me-my joke was in bad taste."

The actress had earlier defended the statement against other critics on the social media platform.

"Roseanne" returned to television this year after an initial run in the 1980s and '90s. The show was an immediate hit, with more than 18 million viewers watching the premiere.

The revival, which commanded a huge audience during its first season, had been renewed for a second season in March.

Dungey is reportedly the first black female head of a major TV network.

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srossi wrote: Wow, ABC just cancelled the show after Roseanne made what was deemed a racist tweet. 

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/29/abc-cancels-roseanne-barrs-sitcom-after-her-tweet-about-black-obama-aide-valerie-jarrett.html

ABC announced on Tuesday that it would cancel the sitcom "Roseanne" following "abhorrent" comments from the star, Roseanne Barr, who had compared former Obama advisor Valerie Jarrett to an ape.

"Roseanne's Twitter statement is abhorrent, repugnant and inconsistent with our values, and we have decided to cancel her show," Channing Dungey, president of ABC Entertainment, said in a statement Tuesday.

Roseanne had apologized for her comments, in which she compared Jarrett to an ape, earlier in the day.

Barr said of Jarrett in the since-deleted tweet: "muslim brotherhood & planet of the apes had a baby=vj."

"I apologize to Valerie Jarrett and to all Americans," Barr wrote on Twitter. "I am truly sorry for making a bad joke about her politics and her looks. I should have known better. Forgive me-my joke was in bad taste."

The actress had earlier defended the statement against other critics on the social media platform.

"Roseanne" returned to television this year after an initial run in the 1980s and '90s. The show was an immediate hit, with more than 18 million viewers watching the premiere.

The revival, which commanded a huge audience during its first season, had been renewed for a second season in March.

Dungey is reportedly the first black female head of a major TV network.

If somebody else can afford the show, they will pick it up.  It was generating good ratings.  I can see Netflix taking a risk with this one.

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Superstar wrote: srossi wrote: Wow, ABC just cancelled the show after Roseanne made what was deemed a racist tweet. 

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/29/abc-cancels-roseanne-barrs-sitcom-after-her-tweet-about-black-obama-aide-valerie-jarrett.html

ABC announced on Tuesday that it would cancel the sitcom "Roseanne" following "abhorrent" comments from the star, Roseanne Barr, who had compared former Obama advisor Valerie Jarrett to an ape.

"Roseanne's Twitter statement is abhorrent, repugnant and inconsistent with our values, and we have decided to cancel her show," Channing Dungey, president of ABC Entertainment, said in a statement Tuesday.

Roseanne had apologized for her comments, in which she compared Jarrett to an ape, earlier in the day.

Barr said of Jarrett in the since-deleted tweet: "muslim brotherhood & planet of the apes had a baby=vj."

"I apologize to Valerie Jarrett and to all Americans," Barr wrote on Twitter. "I am truly sorry for making a bad joke about her politics and her looks. I should have known better. Forgive me-my joke was in bad taste."

The actress had earlier defended the statement against other critics on the social media platform.

"Roseanne" returned to television this year after an initial run in the 1980s and '90s. The show was an immediate hit, with more than 18 million viewers watching the premiere.

The revival, which commanded a huge audience during its first season, had been renewed for a second season in March.

Dungey is reportedly the first black female head of a major TV network.

If somebody else can afford the show, they will pick it up.  It was generating good ratings.  I can see Netflix taking a risk with this one.

No well in hell.  She's untouchable now.  And Netflix is super-liberal with a deal with the Obamas that they just signed and former members of the Obama administration in executive positions, so they're completely out. 

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This whole thing was under so much scrutiny to begin with and to blow it all with a tweet like that confirming (in their minds) all left wing assumptions of Trump supporters is beyond stupid. 

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What the hell was she thinking?

I am serious. She had to type that and read it. Was she loaded up? Popping pills?

Who with that status does that without thinking?

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Papa Voo wrote: What the hell was she thinking?

I am serious. She had to type that and read it. Was she loaded up? Popping pills?

Who with that status does that without thinking?

I would blame it on being wealthy and far removed from reality and consequences to actions, but I don't think that's it.  Middle class people write things on social media all the time that are mind-blowing and get fired for it.  It's such an interesting phenomenon that is unique to this period in history where getting a like or a re-tweet or any validation of your opinion becomes the most important thing in the world at the moment you're hitting enter, much moreso than your career or money or family or whatever.  People literally cannot seem to help themselves even with YEARS of evidence of exactly how bad it can get for them.  There's some type of weird addiction there on par with drug use that I can't completely understand. 

Maybe the most bizarre part of this is that Roseanne is a comedian and a pretty good one but that "joke" is just awful and unoriginal.  There are incredibly funny racist jokes.  If you're going to get fired, write one of those.  This was never worth putting out there.  It was the equivalent of just screaming the "n" word.  OK, why?     

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srossi wrote: Papa Voo wrote: What the hell was she thinking?

I am serious. She had to type that and read it. Was she loaded up? Popping pills?

Who with that status does that without thinking?

I would blame it on being wealthy and far removed from reality and consequences to actions, but I don't think that's it.  Middle class people write things on social media all the time that are mind-blowing and get fired for it.  It's such an interesting phenomenon that is unique to this period in history where getting a like or a re-tweet or any validation of your opinion becomes the most important thing in the world at the moment you're hitting enter, much moreso than your career or money or family or whatever.  People literally cannot seem to help themselves even with YEARS of evidence of exactly how bad it can get for them.  There's some type of weird addiction there on par with drug use that I can't completely understand. 

Maybe the most bizarre part of this is that Roseanne is a comedian and a pretty good one but that "joke" is just awful and unoriginal.  There are incredibly funny racist jokes.  If you're going to get fired, write one of those.  This was never worth putting out there.  It was the equivalent of just screaming the "n" word.  OK, why?     


I still think it is strange behavior in this day and age.  Did Roseanne really (REALLY) think that those statements would be taken as a joke.  No way!  Unless she is warped by some chemical or something. 

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Kiss her career goodbye. 

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I couldn't believe my ears when I heard the news this morning on the radio- the financial impact on Disney/ABC based on the series cancellation was something like $60 million in ad revenue!! That was one expensive faux-pas tweet!

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chrob61 wrote: I couldn't believe my ears when I heard the news this morning on the radio- the financial impact on Disney/ABC based on the series cancellation was something like $60 million in ad revenue!! That was one expensive faux-pas tweet!
It's a little misleading - something will take that shows' spot.  The $60m number is the total that they've already sold...and in turn will have to refund.  But, as is the case with most Network TV advertisers, they won't "cancel" their ads, they will keep them in the time spot with whatever the new show is.  But ABC will have to refund probably $20m in my estimation because they charged full price for the Roseanne spots based on the ratings.  They won't be able to get full price for a mid season replacement show.

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Wow. i am surprised they acted so quickly. good for them. Trump has made it ok for racists to come out and say what they want. You cant allow it to become normal. what she said isnt even on the level of offensive as what Hulk Hogan said (if you are comparing. both are horrible) he wasn't saying anything under what would be called a joke.lol. but you have to cut these people off quickly. now she is blaming it on ambien even though she has said racist things before. of course Trump has remained quiet.

Has anyone seen Melania lately? she has been missing for almost 20 days.lol

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The people on the right are claiming that her 1st A rights have been violated. Again, just like the players protesting, she has every right to say what she said. However, like the players, she is not free from suffering negatives consequences from asserting that right. Nowhere does the Constitution say you get a free pass. This boils down to the same issue. A friend of mine on the far right tried to claim she has a case. We had this discussion. It ended when he told me it is really a cabal of jews who wanted her gone.

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Spatulapup wrote: Wow. i am surprised they acted so quickly. good for them. Trump has made it ok for racists to come out and say what they want. You cant allow it to become normal. what she said isnt even on the level of offensive as what Hulk Hogan said (if you are comparing. both are horrible) he wasn't saying anything under what would be called a joke.lol. but you have to cut these people off quickly. now she is blaming it on ambien even though she has said racist things before. of course Trump has remained quiet.

Did Hulk Hogan kill your pa?  Totally different situations.  Hogan was secretly filmed, Roseanne made a choice to tweet something to the world. 

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Papa Voo wrote: srossi wrote: Papa Voo wrote: What the hell was she thinking?

I am serious. She had to type that and read it. Was she loaded up? Popping pills?

Who with that status does that without thinking?

I would blame it on being wealthy and far removed from reality and consequences to actions, but I don't think that's it.  Middle class people write things on social media all the time that are mind-blowing and get fired for it.  It's such an interesting phenomenon that is unique to this period in history where getting a like or a re-tweet or any validation of your opinion becomes the most important thing in the world at the moment you're hitting enter, much moreso than your career or money or family or whatever.  People literally cannot seem to help themselves even with YEARS of evidence of exactly how bad it can get for them.  There's some type of weird addiction there on par with drug use that I can't completely understand. 

Maybe the most bizarre part of this is that Roseanne is a comedian and a pretty good one but that "joke" is just awful and unoriginal.  There are incredibly funny racist jokes.  If you're going to get fired, write one of those.  This was never worth putting out there.  It was the equivalent of just screaming the "n" word.  OK, why?     


I still think it is strange behavior in this day and age.  Did Roseanne really (REALLY) think that those statements would be taken as a joke.  No way!  Unless she is warped by some chemical or something. 

Apparently she was.  Her throwing in "it was Memorial Day too" seems to imply that she was at least drunk, if not more, on more than Ambien.  I'm not sure what Memorial Day has to do with it other than it being her excuse to party way too hard.  She's 65, that's just a bit sad at this point.

“Guys I did something unforgivable so do not defend me. It was 2 in the morning and I was ambien tweeting-it was memorial day too-i went 2 far & do not want it defended-it was egregious Indefensible. I made a mistake I wish I hadn’t but…don’t defend it please. ty.”

Someone edited Wikipedia's Ambien page with this hilarious entry (since removed obviously): “In 2018, the American Roseanne Barr made the public aware of a number of previously undisclosed side effects to Zolpidem (aka Ambien) including: racism, Trump-tweeting, anthem-spitting, unpatriotic crotch grabbing, public irritation, political agitation, sore losing, sore winning, special election upsets, butt-hurt, hate, avalanches, and loss of sitcom."

Roseanne will be on Joe Rogan's podcast on Friday and that one will be must-see!  I love Rogan and that interview will be entertaining as hell. 

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Nobody violated her rights, nobody is trying to censor her.  But Disney has a right to decide who works for their Corporation, and they decided they don't want her.  I completely understand and cannot blame them, but I also feel that if this happened to Roseanne and her show was on CBS, she would stand a chance to make good without having her show canceled.  Disney doesn't want a single piece of bad press so they will do what they need to in order to protect their image.

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Since the kneeling at the Anthem thing has been mentioned: let's not forget in 1992 that Roseanne sang the anthem (poorly) at a baseball game, then grabbed her crotch afterwards.

She got her break in the mid-80's due to her raw and crass stand-up routines. So she's lived most of her adult-life thinking she can say whatever's on her mind and that somebody will get a kick out of it.

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Erick Von Erich wrote: Since the kneeling at the Anthem thing has been mentioned: let's not forget in 1992 that Roseanne sang the anthem (poorly) at a baseball game, then grabbed her crotch afterwards.

I mentioned this to some asshole on Facebook who was comparing Kap to Roseanne.  Mr. USA had nothing to say to that.  He had completely forgotten how she disrespected the flag.

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srossi wrote: Spatulapup wrote: Wow. i am surprised they acted so quickly. good for them. Trump has made it ok for racists to come out and say what they want. You cant allow it to become normal. what she said isnt even on the level of offensive as what Hulk Hogan said (if you are comparing. both are horrible) he wasn't saying anything under what would be called a joke.lol. but you have to cut these people off quickly. now she is blaming it on ambien even though she has said racist things before. of course Trump has remained quiet.

Did Hulk Hogan kill your pa?  Totally different situations.  Hogan was secretly filmed, Roseanne made a choice to tweet something to the world. 

I dont like Racist people. 

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Superstar wrote: Ultimark wrote: The people on the right are claiming that her 1st A rights have been violated. Again, just like the players protesting, she has every right to say what she said. However, like the players, she is not free from suffering negatives consequences from asserting that right. Nowhere does the Constitution say you get a free pass. This boils down to the same issue. A friend of mine on the far right tried to claim she has a case. We had this discussion. It ended when he told me it is really a cabal of jews who wanted her gone.
Nobody violated her rights, nobody is trying to censor her.  But Disney has a right to decide who works for their Corporation, and they decided they don't want her.  I completely understand and cannot blame them, but I also feel that if this happened to Roseanne and her show was on CBS, she would stand a chance to make good without having her show canceled.  Disney doesn't want a single piece of bad press so they will do what they need to in order to protect their image.
I get what you are saying. People now forget that Bill Maher was fired by ABC after 9/11 (pre Disney) for saying that it was wrong to call the 9/11 terrorists cowards.  I understood his opinion at least even if I didn't 100% agree.  

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srossi wrote: Erick Von Erich wrote: Since the kneeling at the Anthem thing has been mentioned: let's not forget in 1992 that Roseanne sang the anthem (poorly) at a baseball game, then grabbed her crotch afterwards.

I mentioned this to some asshole on Facebook who was comparing Kap to Roseanne.  Mr. USA had nothing to say to that.  He had completely forgotten how she disrespected the flag.
When I mention that, they just ignore it.  Completely.   These people really do live in an alternate fact universe.  That tinker toy, Kellyanne Conway did everyone a favor by admitting to that.

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Of course Trump finally comments on Roseanne but does not condemn what she said. what a shock. instead he makes it about himself.

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The far right wants Bill Maher fired for sayin the N word on HBO. Well, they already did an entire of him admitting he screwed up. For Roseanne, she hadn't earned any leeway. Maybe the new show didn't suck but I didn't think it was worth my time either. Watched several episodes. Just OK I guess.

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Spatulapup wrote: Of course Trump finally comments on Roseanne but does not condemn what she said. what a shock. instead he makes it about himself.Did you expect anything else?  I know supporters of him who admit that he is a classic narcissist.

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Ultimark wrote: The far right wants Bill Maher fired for sayin the N word on HBO. Well, they already did an entire of him admitting he screwed up.
The far left does too, and I'm surprised that he survived that.  His apology wasn't even a little bit sincere and he privately jokes about it.

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Well, one of Maher's criticisms of the left is that they focus on the wrong things and are offended by everything. Basically, whiny little babies. He is right about that. NOT excusing what Roseann said. Bitch meant every word. I like that the makers of Ambien say that while all meds may have side effects, racist tweets isn't on of them. Jesus, Roseanne is such a despicable bitch that she made big Pharma look good.

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Ultimark wrote: Well, one of Maher's criticisms of the left is that they focus on the wrong things and are offended by everything. Basically, whiny little babies. He is right about that. NOT excusing what Roseann said. Bitch meant every word. I like that the makers of Ambien say that while all meds may have side effects, racist tweets isn't on of them. Jesus, Roseanne is such a despicable bitch that she made big Pharma look good.
The difference IMO is that Maher was clearly making a joke ABOUT racism, whereas I have no idea what Roseanne was trying to do but it would be pretty hard to find the satire in that tweet.  It really doesn't matter though, ABC has the right to fire her or not just as HBO has the right to fire Maher or not.  They made their choices.

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I do believe the Ambien story, and I would wager she was probably loaded, too, and was pissing around with her phone and Twitter at 2:00 am. I think a lot more people would be more forgiving and understanding with that explanation compared to saying it was just a sober joke that went bad.

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srossi wrote: Erick Von Erich wrote: Since the kneeling at the Anthem thing has been mentioned: let's not forget in 1992 that Roseanne sang the anthem (poorly) at a baseball game, then grabbed her crotch afterwards.

I mentioned this to some asshole on Facebook who was comparing Kap to Roseanne.  Mr. USA had nothing to say to that.  He had completely forgotten how she disrespected the flag.

She's allowed to because she's not one of those negros.

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The thing is, I thought the 2nd run of Roseanne wasn't too bad. It dealt with a lot of real life issue that got people talking.

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Roseanne, in the reboot, was being used as the stooge like Archie was back in the day.



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