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 Posted: Tue Apr 24th, 2018 04:31 pm
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I'll go off the grid and say that he really doesn't want to play football at this point. 'Not getting signed' allows him to keep his lawsuit active and even an out of court settlement lines his pockets for much less effort than he'd have to put in being on an active roster.

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Weren’t the Seahawks interested in him last year but he wasn’t interested in the cash they were offering?



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Here's last I heard with Seattle.


Seattle was ok with the national anthem protest and recognized that their market was one that probably could handle that. They wanted (from him) a plan how to handle things (which would be an issue at first) and he had none.


Kaepernick would even be a good fit in Seattle as a backup because Wilson and he have similar playing styles.


The guy may have a point at first. Now he's lazy. He doesn't want to play.

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If he wanted to play coming up with a plan seems simple. worst case have his lawyer draw it up and done.



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This guy is just not worth the trouble. He is not good enough to put up with the headaches he creates.

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The problem is that the risk is greater than his talent. I am not even sure where this guy is now in regards to skill. That seemed to be declining when he was still playing.

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The white man is holding him down



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Sounds like he is holding himself back if all he had to do to get a contract was write a statement detailing how he was going to handle things.



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The ding dong wears a Kunte Kinte t-shirt to a disposition hearing. He 's nothing but a trouble maker now.



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beejmi wrote: Here's last I heard with Seattle.


Seattle was ok with the national anthem protest and recognized that their market was one that probably could handle that. They wanted (from him) a plan how to handle things (which would be an issue at first) and he had none.

This seems highly unlikely.  Kaepernick has talked and written about this issue at length and ad nauseum, don't tell me he didn't have a "plan".  He is surrounded by people now who not only could write one for him but likely have one already drafted.  I don't buy it for one second.  You can piece together excerpts from his speeches and slap it together as his plan.  I'd like to hear from Kaepernick himself that he wasn't willing to do this.

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His last year in the league he was benched in favor of Blaine Gabbert.

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He's probably going to win his collusion case.  This is a bombshell.

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According to Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk, internal team documents show that "teams viewed Kaepernick as being good enough not simply to be employed by an NFL team, but to be a starting quarterback for an NFL team."  This information has been unearthed as part of the quarterback's collusion grievance against the NFL, including from documents and witness testimony during depositions.

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The key is there has to be something that links the teams together in this opinion. Every team can consider him worthy of being a starter, but not worth the hassle, and as long as the teams individually and independently decided not to sign him, there isn't collusion. In contrast, when the MLB collusion occurred in the mid 1980s, teams coordinated and cooperated in order to not make offers to FAs in order to keep salaries down. For instance, Carlton Fisk was coming off a 30 plus HR and 100 plus RBI season with the White Sox and got no offers other than from his incumbent team, including having a meeting with the Yankees called off at the last moment. Meanwhile Jack Morris had an interest in joining his hometown Twins (which he eventually did in 1991) but before his meeting in Minneapolis occurred, the team contacted the Tigers to find out how much they could offer Morris without going over what the Tigers were prepared to bid. There would need to be some sort of comparable conspiracy at work with regard to Kaepernick and, while anything is possible, I have a hard time believing the NFL could be so stupid as to have actually done this. For all the rips the NFL takes these days, the organization and its teams actually run a pretty tight ship.

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tamalie wrote: The key is there has to be something that links the teams together in this opinion. Every team can consider him worthy of being a starter, but not worth the hassle, and as long as the teams individually and independently decided not to sign him, there isn't collusion. In contrast, when the MLB collusion occurred in the mid 1980s, teams coordinated and cooperated in order to not make offers to FAs in order to keep salaries down. For instance, Carlton Fisk was coming off a 30 plus HR and 100 plus RBI season with the White Sox and got no offers other than from his incumbent team, including having a meeting with the Yankees called off at the last moment. Meanwhile Jack Morris had an interest in joining his hometown Twins (which he eventually did in 1991) but before his meeting in Minneapolis occurred, the team contacted the Tigers to find out how much they could offer Morris without going over what the Tigers were prepared to bid. There would need to be some sort of comparable conspiracy at work with regard to Kaepernick and, while anything is possible, I have a hard time believing the NFL could be so stupid as to have actually done this. For all the rips the NFL takes these days, the organization and its teams actually run a pretty tight ship.
By no means is it a slam dunk that he'll win now, but this is damning evidence considering that a big talking point, certainly amongst fans but even within organizations, was that he just wasn't very good.  We now know that most teams did not really feel that way at all.  It's a step closer for Kap's lawyer to proving collusion since the alternative is that 32 teams all came to the conclusion that he could help them win but they wouldn't sign him independent of each other.     



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I want to add that after reading the PFT article from Florio, it simply states that there were internal team documents calling Kaepernick a starter level QB in the NFL. Which teams? How many teams? Were these teams that had need for a starting quarterback or didn't have a potential starting level QB on the bench (note that some teams don't want a starter level guy on the bench because his desire to play could cause internal dissent). It could be 32 teams said he was a starter. It could be 5. For that matter, did any teams say he was strictly a backup? I don't know the answer to any of this, but all will be important if Kaepernick has a chance at winning his collusion suit. I find Mike Florio an entertaining media personality and he has some interesting takes and information, but he's also been rightly called sloppy and this piece draws people towards a blanket conclusion when there isn't enough evidence for such a thing in favor or against Colin Kaepernick.

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