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 Posted: Fri May 11th, 2018 01:48 pm
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The Mets and Matt Harvey have finally — fully — parted ways.
On the clock to trade him before he might become a free agent, the Mets salvaged something out of Harvey, trading him on Tuesday to the team they happen to be facing this week, the Cincinnati Reds. Harvey, one of the best pitchers in baseball less than three years ago, will now be a reclamation project on the worst team in baseball.
In exchange for Harvey, the Mets received cash and the oft-injured catcher Devin Mesoraco, who was in the Reds’ starting lineup for Tuesday night’s game until the trade was announced just under an hour before first pitch. Mesoraco, 29, then switched clubhouses at Great American Ball Park before his former team beat the Mets, 7-2.
Harvey, also 29, will not face his former team this week, as he will join the Reds for their next series in Los Angeles against the Dodgers beginning Thursday. His performance declined significantly after some injuries, and he had struggled both as a starter and as a reliever this season.


Harvey’s tenure with the Mets came to an end after they designated him for assignment Saturday following his refusal to take a minor league assignment, which was within his rights. The Mets had seven days to trade or release him if he cleared waivers.


Tuesday’s deal is essentially a swap of players to fill needs. The Reds entered Tuesday with the worst record in baseball and a pitching staff that was largely to blame. The Mets desired catching help because of injuries to their two starters at the position: Travis d’Arnaud (who had season-ending Tommy John surgery) and Kevin Plawecki (who is expected to return later this month from a fractured left hand). Their fill-ins, the journeyman Jose Lobaton and the rookie Tomas Nido, combined to hit .156 with zero home runs in 33 games entering Tuesday.
Mesoraco has been slightly better; he hit .220 with one home run in 18 games. He was once an All-Star, in 2014, when he hit .273 with 25 home runs. But in the 2015-2017 seasons, he hit .191 in just 95 games because of a litany of health issues including operations on both hips, a broken foot, and surgery on his left shoulder.


The Mets are hoping a now-healthy Mesoraco can help.
Harvey, who wanted to remain a starting pitcher, will now pitch at a home run-friendly stadium in Cincinnati. With some tweaks, the Reds can perhaps fix Harvey and flip him for a better return than Mesoraco could have garnered at the July trade deadline. Other teams were interested in Harvey, but the Reds were aggressive and fit the Mets’ needs.
The Reds owed Mesoraco just over $13 million this season, the final year on his contract extension, and the Mets owed Harvey $5.6 million this season, the final year before he was eligible for free agency. Each team will only pay the remaining salary for the player they dealt, said a person familiar with the deal, meaning the Mets will not pay extra for Mesoraco.
In order to make room for Mesoraco on the active roster, the Mets placed Frazier on the 10-day disabled list with a left hamstring strain. Before Tuesday’s game, Mets Manager Mickey Callaway told reporters that Frazier had been dealing with some discomfort for weeks but that it worsened in Monday’s game. In a sputtering Mets lineup, Frazier had been one of the most consistent threats to get on base.


To help, the Mets are expected to call up infield prospect Luis Guillorme from Class AAA Las Vegas.

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 Posted: Fri May 11th, 2018 06:20 pm
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He was never the same after going out for the 9th inning vs the Royals in 2015 and blowing it.

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 Posted: Fri May 11th, 2018 06:56 pm
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Principal_Raditch wrote: He was never the same after going out for the 9th inning vs the Royals in 2015 and blowing it.
You aren't kidding.  People have busted Dusty Baker's balls for years about how he handles a pitching staff but Terry Collins ruined Harvey that night.  I truly believe Harvey was hurting before that 9th inning, with all the innings he threw that year and that postseason.  And that night was cold too.  Harvey wanted to finish the job but was out of gas by the 7th.  The 8th was all guts and fumes.  They should have gone to Familia and let him blow it instead, because Familia wasn't exactly blowing the doors off in the WS. 

The list of young pitchers that got ruined in the postseason is long.  Harvey's doctor and agent both said he should be shut down a la Stephen Strasburg a couple years earlier (which cost the Nationals a WS birth by the way), but Harvey took so much crap from the media and some teammates that he said fuck it, I'm all in.  Big mistake - players cannot and must not forget that it's a business and if you ruin yourself you will be thrown away and nobody will care that you did it "for the team".  Ask Wilson Alvarez, Mark Prior, etc.



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Less than 2 weeks ago, Justin Verlander was cruising against the Yankees and was pulled with a fairly modest pitch count and the bullpen blew the game.  A.J. Hinch was being attacked by the media of course, but he said in the postgame press conference that he asked Verlander if he wanted to go back out there and Verlander said point blank, "I don't have anything left, take me out."  Even 5 years ago I don't think any pitcher would ever say that, and I don't think any manager would admit his pitcher said that even if he did.  Anything above "5 and fly" now is considered exceptional. 

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4 shut out innings for Harvey vs the Dodgers



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Benlen wrote: 4 shut out innings for Harvey vs the Dodgers
Only gave up 1 hit and that should've been an error as the ball was lost in the lights by an outfielder.  I wouldn't be shocked if he bounces back now that he's in a new environment.  And I'm sure there are fewer nightclubs in Ohio.



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srossi wrote: Benlen wrote: 4 shut out innings for Harvey vs the Dodgers
Only gave up 1 hit and that should've been an error as the ball was lost in the lights by an outfielder.  I wouldn't be shocked if he bounces back now that he's in a new environment.  And I'm sure there are fewer nightclubs in Ohio.

Fewer?  Absolutely.  But Cincinnati is booming right now and there are more than enough spots one could get into trouble. 



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