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 Posted: Fri May 11th, 2018 08:41 pm
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Even discounting the lunacy of taking this literally (which I'm not 100% sure we're supposed to do), and understanding the underlying message of teaching children about "bad touches" early on, this psycho could not possibly be worse at expressing herself and double-downing on the statement makes it so much more laughable. 


https://nypost.com/2018/05/11/sexuality-expert-says-parents-should-for-consent-to-change-a-babys-diaper/?utm_source=NYPFacebook&utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_medium=SocialFlow&sr_share=facebook

An author and educator has been ridiculed after saying parents should ask babies for consent before a diaper change and watch for a response through body language.

Deanne Carson said in an ABC News segment that families could set up “a culture of consent” in the home by asking newborns: “I’m going to change your nappy now, is that OK?”

The CEO of youth relationship service Body Safety Australia added: “Of course, a baby’s not going to respond, ‘Yes, Mom, that’s awesome, I’d love to have my nappy changed,’ but if you leave a space and wait for body language and wait to make eye contact, then you’re letting that child know that their response matters.”

The segment was highlighted on Sky News Australia’s “Outsiders” show, with Rowan Dean introducing the clip with a dig at the rival channel. “This is just superb and it was on YOUR ABC earlier this evening, which you paid for this leftie lunacy, have a look,” he said.

“There we go, Ross, consent for changing nappies,” he told co-host Ross Cameron. “I’m sure that that would, I think that might get a bit, er, anyway we won’t go there.”

The video was shared on YouTube, racking up more than 20,000 views, before Carson made a statement on Facebook in response to her vocal critics.

“I gave an interview the other day about teaching consent to young children,” she said. “Sadly, some people have chosen to ridicule me (oh no! Pink hair! Must be a lesbian!) and the notion of giving infants bodily autonomy (poo in nappies har har amiright?!)

“For those people I’m posting this.

“One in three girls, one in seven boys will be sexually assaulted by the time they are eighteen years old. One in twelve girls will be sexually abused before their sixth birthday.

“The work we do with children, teachers and parents is international best practice in abuse prevention. It teaches children their rights AND their responsibilities and connects them with people who care and can help. It invites their parents into the discussion and is sensitive to cultural and family values.

“Troll me all you want, add to your blog inches, but remember that when you do, you are negating the voices of these brave survivors of sexual abuse.”

Her remarks elicited a mixed response, with one Facebook user commenting, “What you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard,” while another said, “You’re doing such an excellent job, hence the reason they’re trolling.”

Danny Snee said it was “an insult to genuine sexual assault victims to compare their experience to a baby having a nappy changed without giving the right expressions.”

Skye Chalker said she was a survivor of sexual abuse and thought Carson “possibly could be” going too far with her teachings, but believed that “teaching children what is ok touching and not ok touching and if they don’t feel comfortable they should say something is a good thing.”

A group called Facts Without Frenzy said Carson was “right on the money,” adding that they had seen “similar denigration of other educators who work in similar areas such as sexuality education and the awful trolling and outright misplaced hate directed their way.”

But former New South Wales Senate candidate Kirralie Smith posted on Facebook: “This goes way beyond lunacy! This is neglect and child abuse!!!!

“Many children never want you to change their nappy. Asking them for consent is a serious indication of severe mental problems. Nappies must be changed to prevent serious skin damage and pain for the child.

“What is worse is the fact the ABC actually spent our tax dollars on this moronic opinion.”

Last edited on Fri May 11th, 2018 08:43 pm by srossi



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It would come off a lot better if she kept this to 2 sentences max. Her point, bit the diapers.



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The last thing we need is yet another instance where parents defer to or ask permission from their children. Parents are meant to be unquestioned authority figures.

Don't get me started on parents who call their kids "buddy" or "dude".



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What fucking bullshit. How does this lady function in society?

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KGB wrote: The last thing we need is yet another instance where parents defer to or ask permission from their children. Parents are meant to be unquestioned authority figures.

Don't get me started on parents who call their kids "buddy" or "dude".

My lady gets mad at me sometimes because I’ll tell the kids to clean their room or clean the table after dinner and she will say “can you say please?” And I always come back with “now” 
This lady isn’t doing anything that will help society if anything she is confusing someone into doing the wrong thing. Babies aren’t capable of doing much of anything for themselves so we as adults are to provide care to them. 



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Franchise wrote: KGB wrote: The last thing we need is yet another instance where parents defer to or ask permission from their children. Parents are meant to be unquestioned authority figures.

Don't get me started on parents who call their kids "buddy" or "dude".

My lady gets mad at me sometimes because I’ll tell the kids to clean their room or clean the table after dinner and she will say “can you say please?” And I always come back with “now” 
This lady isn’t doing anything that will help society if anything she is confusing someone into doing the wrong thing. Babies aren’t capable of doing much of anything for themselves so we as adults are to provide care to them. 
It is more that that.  It is insanity to ask a baby for permission to change his or her shitty diaper.  People like this are flat out nuts.  

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Right because even a dog can communicate better than a baby. You might as well be talking to the crib



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Franchise wrote: Right because even a dog can communicate better than a baby. You might as well be talking to the crib
I've said this to my wife often, especially the first 6 months.  Our dog can more or less let us know what she wants.  I can't forget to feed her because she'll go over to her bowl and bark.  I always forget to refill her water bowl and she'll tip it over with a loud clang and give me a dirty look and that's my cue to fill it.  If she wants to go out, she'll scratch on the back door every couple of minutes and politely wait for us to let her out.  She'll scratch when she wants back in.  She'll scratch on the front door if she wants to go on a real walk.  Dogs have the intelligence of a 7-year old and the communication isn't hard to figure out.  Babies are a whole different story and I'm often lost and frustrated trying to figure out what my son wants and why he goes from laughing to crying in 3 seconds flat.  Even at 13 months with him striving for independence now, it's a struggle.  

You have a lot of millennials with the emotional maturity of a baby themselves, with no responsibility whatsoever, giving parenting advice now, and some people are taking them seriously.  I do think it's important to talk to your kids respectfully and say please and thank you to get them into the habit of doing it, but not much communication with a baby is possible.     

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