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 Posted: Thu Nov 8th, 2018 07:14 pm
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Democrats have now picked up 31 seats in the House. I said there was a chance that the R's could gain 3 in the Senate. BT said the Dems wouldn't capture the House. Wrong.

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 Posted: Thu Nov 8th, 2018 07:15 pm
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Ultimark wrote: Yep. Up is down, down is up. Look at his moronic followers. This is why forms of government that promote freedom are always at risk. Both from the left and right. Trump is to the right now but he could just as easily have been a Dem (which is where most of his views fell to prior to 12 - trumpers HATE those old videos - fingers in ears time!) and he would be going at it from that direction.

Trump was an 80s and 90s Dem when they were normal. Who in their right mind would want to see Bernie, Hillary, Kamala, or Spartacus president today? My how that party has fallen. I'd really like to know what Carter and Clinton privately say about this joke of a party.


You can call us moronic, but you can't deny the over 400,000 manufacturing jobs he created. You remember all the "experts" saying this can't happen? This is the very thing he campaigned on. Without going into detail, I've been personally helped by his policies, so I'll be one of those gullible morons who will continue to back him.

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 Posted: Thu Nov 8th, 2018 07:18 pm
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There are videos in 09 and 10!!! You are a moron. I stand by that. Every post confirms it.

Continue to prove me right.

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Here come the "your a stupid LIBRUL" posts that guys like BT fall back on.

Except I am not a liberal. Years of posts here bear that out.

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 Posted: Thu Nov 8th, 2018 07:40 pm
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Ultimark wrote: There are videos in 09 and 10!!! You are a moron. I stand by that. Every post confirms it.

Continue to prove me right.


Yeah, okay. I know he was an independent in 2000 and was thinking about running third party. Forgive me if I do not know his political history. Once again, the Dems were somewhat normal up until the late 2000s. Gore, Kerry, and Obama campaigned as centrists. They even held some positions that would make today's liberal head explode. In 2011 I first heard him on the Michael Savage show and he was talking about trade and endless wars. Hell, these are common sense positions and not necessarily D or R. and then he adopted the birther crap.

Look, I don't know what this guys views were when it came to gay marriage, abortion, guns, or immigration. I never really took the guy seriously until 2015. If he held totally different positions, oh well. I like the positions he's holding now, and many, many politicians have switched to further advance their political career. I do know that he has always held the position that we are getting clobbered when it comes to trade. There's the Oprah video from the 80s. This was the very reason I liked Perot. 

Yeah, I'm a moron, but I'm doing much better today thanks to his policies. That certainly benefits my family.


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 Posted: Thu Nov 8th, 2018 07:41 pm
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BlueThunder wrote: Ultimark wrote: Yep. Up is down, down is up. Look at his moronic followers. This is why forms of government that promote freedom are always at risk. Both from the left and right. Trump is to the right now but he could just as easily have been a Dem (which is where most of his views fell to prior to 12 - trumpers HATE those old videos - fingers in ears time!) and he would be going at it from that direction.

Trump was an 80s and 90s Dem when they were normal. Who in their right mind would want to see Bernie, Hillary, Kamala, or Spartacus president today?


But when it comes to tariffs and trade policy, go Bernie go!  It's like Bernie is our president. 

Also, both parties were obviously more normal in the '80s and '90s.  I don't know who started it and I don't care since I hate both sides, but there was a drift to the extremes and in another 20 years we're going to wind up with a Democrat mandating sex change operations for all babies and a Republican who has tanks run down protestors in Times Square.  We can only go so much more to the extremes before it becomes absurd.



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Ultimark wrote: Here come the "your a stupid LIBRUL" posts that guys like BT fall back on.

Except I am not a liberal. Years of posts here bear that out.


Dude, I never gave a second thought what you were. I do know for certain that you're a self absorbed jag off.

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 Posted: Thu Nov 8th, 2018 07:47 pm
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As I have stated numerous times, I agree that we are in bad trade deals.  You can find those post.  As someone who served this country, I view him as a clear and present danger. Every time he speaks he confirms that.  He will often contradict himself in the same sentence.  He is a classic con man who has prayed on people's emotions.  That doesn't mean there won't be issues where I agree with whatever stance he decides to take on a particular day.  I just think he is clearly unstable.  How that can be even debated is beyond me.  General Kelly stays there to make certain there is an adult nearby. 
What branch did you serve with BT?

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BlueThunder wrote: Ultimark wrote: Here come the "your a stupid LIBRUL" posts that guys like BT fall back on.

Except I am not a liberal. Years of posts here bear that out.


Dude, I never gave a second thought what you were. I do know for certain that you're a self absorbed jag off.
Bullshit.  You have said that in several posts.  Perhaps I am self absorbed. I doubt you even know what that means.  I do know for certain you are an asshole.  Hey, JMO.  

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 Posted: Thu Nov 8th, 2018 08:22 pm
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Ultimark wrote: BlueThunder wrote: Ultimark wrote: Here come the "your a stupid LIBRUL" posts that guys like BT fall back on.

Except I am not a liberal. Years of posts here bear that out.


Dude, I never gave a second thought what you were. I do know for certain that you're a self absorbed jag off.
Bullshit.  You have said that in several posts.  Perhaps I am self absorbed. I doubt you even know what that means.  I do know for certain you are an asshole.  Hey, JMO.  


You think pretty highly of yourself to think I'm going to go back and check out your posts. You have too much time on your hands. You kinda make Scrossi look humble.

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Ultimark wrote:   As someone who served this country, I view him as a clear and present danger. 

Well, I guess that settles it. When can we start impeachment?

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If the quality of Mexican food goes down to to restrictions on border crossings, then Trump is a clear threat to the country.

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Principal_Raditch wrote: If the quality of Mexican food goes down to to restrictions on border crossings, then Trump is a clear threat to the country.

Tex-Mex is better than authentic Mexican food.

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 Posted: Thu Nov 8th, 2018 08:51 pm
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I am totally for strong border security. However, I have noticed how fast the caravan issue died down. Sending thousands of troops to the border over that?

Again, no issue with security and think we need to do better there. The wall is a stupid idea though. We already have the technology the prevent border crossings almost everywhere but won't use it.

The Mexico border isn't the real risk. It is the border with Canada. No issue with Canadians but it is easier get into Canada with their version of a visa. Then someone can enter the U.S. in numerous places where the security is almost non existent.

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You'd be surprised just how much security is along the border, especially in places that look completely barren.



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