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 Posted: Tue Dec 4th, 2018 03:31 pm
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It doesn't guarantee a thing. Dan Marino, Dan Fouts, Fran Tarkenton, and Jim Kelly come to mind immediately as guys who never won rings. Having an ace QB is important, but it isn't the only thing that matters.

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Look GB has 2. I think that is a positive, not a negative. It also illustrates that the NFL, with all it's weaknesses, is a strong franchise. If GB can win titles in a tiny market, then the NFL is doing something right. Look at Pittsburgh. What I like ab out the NFL is that the size of the market is not the determining factor in long term success.
I know GB had 2 others.  

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It doesn't. But if I told you the Giants were going to have HOF QBing for the next 30 years you'd be disappointed if that equated to only one or two Super Bowl wins.

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Green Bay being a tiny market is largely irrelevant because the NFL's revenue sharing equalizes the gaps you see in the likes of MLB and the players don't have the overriding desire to be in big urban centers like the NBA stars. The Packers have also recrafted their relationship with Green Bay as being a version of how a college team is the biggest show on earth in a similarly sized college town. If the team ever had a long term dark age like it did from 1968 to 1991 again, with Black players having some police run ins in the mid 1980s that made many media members question the viability of the team in Green Bay long term with either Inside Sports or Sport suggesting the team base itself in Milwaukee and only go to Green Bay on game days, then perhaps the situation might be different. However, for now it is seen as a place where a guy can go and contend for Super Bowls even if the number of Super Bowls in the Favre/Rodgers era is three and none in over a decade.

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beejmi wrote: It doesn't. But if I told you the Giants were going to have HOF QBing for the next 30 years you'd be disappointed if that equated to only one or two Super Bowl wins.

We haven't had a hall of fame qb in the last 32 yr but we have 4 Superbowls, but i see your point 

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Married Jo wrote: Was probably time for a change but it was pretty shitty to do it now. Just do it after the season...dude coached a lot of wins for that franchise..They're doing him a favor. He gets a chance to regroup before next year's jobs start opening up. If they were going to fire him after the season anyway, just do it now and spare him this last month of putting in hours for no real purpose.

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krazykid18 wrote: beejmi wrote: It doesn't. But if I told you the Giants were going to have HOF QBing for the next 30 years you'd be disappointed if that equated to only one or two Super Bowl wins.

We haven't had a hall of fame qb in the last 32 yr but we have 4 Superbowls, but i see your point 


Eli is going to the Hall Of Fame

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 Posted: Wed Dec 5th, 2018 01:37 pm
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beejmi wrote: krazykid18 wrote: beejmi wrote: It doesn't. But if I told you the Giants were going to have HOF QBing for the next 30 years you'd be disappointed if that equated to only one or two Super Bowl wins.

We haven't had a hall of fame qb in the last 32 yr but we have 4 Superbowls, but i see your point 


Eli is going to the Hall Of Fame


I don't think he is a Hall of fame qb at all, the body of work isn't there and goes to question how these writers keep giving out Superbowl MVP's  if used in the hall of fame debate

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I dunno. I assume the 2 Super Bowl wins gets you in. I can’t think of anyone with ‘two’ that won’t get in

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