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Raw kicked off tonight with Rollins calling out Corbin and basically giving voice to the fans by saying they Raw sucks and no one is watching anymore. Rollins specifically said that “ratings are at an all-time low”. Of course Corbin as GM was blamed in kayfabe world. Rollins went through the list of real-life smark complaints, from childish urination segments, to young talent like The Revival getting buried, to Lesnar never defending the title on Raw, to Corbin himself blathering on in long boring segments. Rollins ended the segment by challenging Corbin to a TLC match tonight to spice up ratings. 

The ironic part is that this segment itself was kind of long and boring, so Vince knows what’s wrong but is incapable of fixing it. I kept expecting Vince himself to come out and fire Corbin (Vince does think he’s ratings gold), but that didn’t happen (yet). 


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Then the very first match is a handicap match where the champions lose the title when their manager is pinned. Vince knows what we want more than we do.

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Kriss wrote: Then the very first match is a handicap match where the champions lose the title when their manager is pinned. Vince knows what we want more than we do.

What do today’s fans want? 

My son is 10 and wants to see Braun, Balor, Braun, Braun, AJ sometimes and loved seeing that guy pee his pants. He could give a shit about 205 live, he thought he wanted to see Mixed Match till he saw some of it and didn’t care for it. Has no interest in watching old wrestling but if the E ran a promo tonight for a returning Savio Vega he would want to know all about him. 


I don’t want any of that but I’m not a fan of Raw or Smackdown and the things I am a fan of (NXT and ROH) I can hardly find time for anymore. 

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Kriss wrote: Then the very first match is a handicap match where the champions lose the title when their manager is pinned. Vince knows what we want more than we do.
That was actually them GIVING the fans what they want.  Michael Cole started shouting that it was a "new era", which was mostly hilarious because the thought of anyone caring about Roode and Gable and the Tag belts that much after the way they've all been beat down is laughable, but also because they didn't realize that having Rockstar Spud pinned in a handicap match is the worst way to transfer the titles in a meaningful way.  Vince genuinely doesn't know that, and no one wants to tell him. 

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srossi wrote: Kriss wrote: Then the very first match is a handicap match where the champions lose the title when their manager is pinned. Vince knows what we want more than we do.
That was actually them GIVING the fans what they want.  Michael Cole started shouting that it was a "new era", which was mostly hilarious because the thought of anyone caring about Roode and Gable and the Tag belts that much after the way they've all been beat down is laughable, but also because they didn't realize that having Rockstar Spud pinned in a handicap match is the worst way to transfer the titles in a meaningful way.  Vince genuinely doesn't know that, and no one wants to tell him. 


Vince might have watched WrestleMania 5 on the network while in transit and said “that’s it; this demolition v POP and Fuji match is awesome let’s do something like this tonight!!!” 

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Only difference there is Demolition was defending against three guys. Fuji was on the challengers side, and POP still fucking lost :)

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Also, and we are going far too deep into this, Fuji has some credibility as a former tag team champion and devious master of the salt gimmick. In WWE, Maverick is the tiny GM who wears a bow tie. They did give him a namecheck as Spud on his first appearance, but he's been pushed as a former wrestler.

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Kriss wrote: Also, and we are going far too deep into this, Fuji has some credibility as a former tag team champion and devious master of the salt gimmick. In WWE, Maverick is the tiny GM who wears a bow tie. They did give him a namecheck as Spud on his first appearance, but he's been pushed as a former wrestler.
Even based on his TNA gimmick, it's not like Spud has credibility as an in-ring performer.  I have no problem with him being booked as a cowardly heel.  He does it well.  I do think it's absurd that on 205 Live he's still a babyface commissioner simultaneously though.  And it doesn't really fit anyone's gimmick for him to be with the AOP.  They should certainly fire and destroy him next week for costing them the belts. 

And Roode and Gable can only be salvaged if they're put into a feud with The Revival and are allowed to have NXT-style matches with them over these titles.  I'm not holding my breath.  Rollins mentioned The Revival as specifically being held down as a shoot comment since they're heels and he's a face, and then they followed that up by...not having The Revival on the show again.

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And this week’s episode of Raw lost another 100,000 viewers to set a new worst viewership record ever.

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The WWE Chronicle episode on Becky Lynch that was uploaded to the Network today is fantastic. This is the kind of thing they should be showing on Raw (maybe not 22 minutes worth, but this style of programming). Instead, we're going to get Vince McMahon having a senior moment live on TV on Monday night, standing in the ring, talking, the same old shit for the past 20 years.

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Kriss wrote:The WWE Chronicle episode on Becky Lynch that was uploaded to the Network today is fantastic. This is the kind of thing they should be showing on Raw (maybe not 22 minutes worth, but this style of programming). Instead, we're going to get Vince McMahon having a senior moment live on TV on Monday night, standing in the ring, talking, the same old shit for the past 20 years.
Raw used to regularly have amazing recap packages (that made even boring feuds seem epic), music videos, profiles, and other touches by WWE’s production team that was top notch. Then one day they just stopped with all of that. 

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Watching Raw on a delay. The show starts with Vince, Shane, Stephanie, and HHH all coming out and basically admitting that the show has gotten boring and promising to shake things up and give the fans new stars, new match-ups, etc. in the coming weeks and months. They all oddly claim that they’ll be more hands-on, which sounds more like a threat than a promise. I really doubt that they know how to fix this.

And then they show they don’t by having Baron Corbin come out and have one of those really long and boring exchanges where he tries to talk and gets booed and goes back and forth with the fans and it took forever to get to the point we knew they were getting to. Corbin says he was screwed last night and wants to be permanent GM. All 4 say no but Vince eventually says he can get one more chance if he can beat Angle. Stephanie then announces Heath Slater as special referee. So this ground-breaking segment to change the direction of Raw involves...Slater? HHH then makes it a handicap match and Roode, Gable, and Crews come out. Oh great, Slater and Crews. Now we’re rocking. Shane makes it no-DQ and they all hit him with chairs.

Of course Angle pins Corbin to finally end this massacre. It was a 35-minute segment spanning 2 commercial breaks. I don’t see how this is going to pop a rating.

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Later on announced was the NXT call-ups of EC3, Heavy Machinery, Lacey Evans, and Nikki Cross, joining Lars Sullivan who was already on the way before these panic moves.

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I was watching the opening segment too.  Was I not paying attention, or did the first commercial break come in very awkwardly during the back and forth segment with Corbin?

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Vignette that “Kevin Owens Returns Soon”. I hope they’re not rushing him back, but they clearly are trying to load up the show as best they can.

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I watched the women’s gauntlet match tonight; not my favorite match ever but it was entertaining enough and it was just wrestling for almost an hour which was nice.

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Franchise wrote:I watched the women’s gauntlet match tonight; not my favorite match ever but it was entertaining enough and it was just wrestling for almost an hour which was nice.
Yeah that was a clear nod to the “wrestling” fans, as was putting over The Revival. It’s not like this show was a home run by any means though. You can see that in Vince’s world, he was trying though. 

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If They make the last hour the wrestling hour going forward I’ll make sure I watch it but I won’t hold my breath.

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What is wrong isn't a secret. The show sucks. It is like watching a 3rd rate comedy now.

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Ultimark wrote: What is wrong isn't a secret. The show sucks. It is like watching a 3rd rate comedy now.
I know it’s apples to oranges but I started watching the mid south run on the network and even though it’s not totally my cup of tea I enjoy it because it’s just wrestling with the announcers tying the logic together. Nobody is trying to be funny or against the grain it’s just straight forward wrestling. 

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While there are many things that aren't turning the fans on, what amazes me is how those 4 (Vince, Hunter, Stephanie, Shane) have let some of this happen and assumed it would be well received.
For instance (and there are countless examples), right now they have exactly 2 people in the World Title scene on Raw:  Brock Lesnar and Braun Strowman.  Problem is, Brock just squashed him and has already beaten him at least twice.
There is no one else.  It appeared that McIntyre was coming along, but then they beat him with a cruiser weight, and he has lost twice in the last 2 weeks.  They can bring Kevin Owens back, but they let Braun make him look like a jobber right before he left tv.  
The 50/50 booking makes the product really boring in my opinion.

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Boz1515 wrote: While there are many things that aren't turning the fans on, what amazes me is how those 4 (Vince, Hunter, Stephanie, Shane) have let some of this happen and assumed it would be well received.
For instance (and there are countless examples), right now they have exactly 2 people in the World Title scene on Raw:  Brock Lesnar and Braun Strowman.  Problem is, Brock just squashed him and has already beaten him at least twice.
There is no one else.  It appeared that McIntyre was coming along, but then they beat him with a cruiser weight, and he has lost twice in the last 2 weeks.  They can bring Kevin Owens back, but they let Braun make him look like a jobber right before he left tv.  
The 50/50 booking makes the product really boring in my opinion.
I can agree with all of this except one part - I doubt most fans will remember Kevin Owens taking a beatdown by Braun because they'll be happy to have him back.

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I don’t know they really made Owens looks like shit for awhile, the lame head butt thing with Vince, needing help to beat Shane and then being such a scared cry baby with Braun I think he is ruined unless they do an angle where they build him up and he faces his fears and battles Braun in a straight forward match and he can get a clean win over Shane.

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They're too scared to pull the trigger and elevate someone when they get hot. They missed the boat with Drew.

Big problem in my opinion is that they're obsessed with "Wrestlemania Moments" and want all of the big title wins to be at Wrestlemania. If a guy is red hot in September, that's 6 months they can cool him down and alienate the fans in the meantime.

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After the push Drew was getting, I was just floored when he lost to Balor, and now is stuck in a 3-way feud with him and Ziggler. Ziggler is the worst booked wrester in WWE history. I have never seen anyone get as much TV time as him over the course of a decade while being completely directionless.

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srossi wrote: After the push Drew was getting, I was just floored when he lost to Balor, and now is stuck in a 3-way feud with him and Ziggler. Ziggler is the worst booked wrester in WWE history. I have never seen anyone get as much TV time as him over the course of a decade while being completely directionless.Drew and Ziggler have been consistently good - Drew since he came back, and Ziggler for about the past eight years.  Balor, in the limited time I've seen him, hasn't (in my opinion) regained the momentum he had going into and winning the Universal title.  Honestly, I think his shoulder injury in that match really ruined him because WWE was pushing him to the moon and he got hurt immediately.  They don't usually come back and push you to the moon again unless you are one of Vince's guys.  Balor is an HHH guy.  Ziggler should be getting a little bit more for all the good he's done.  But he also screwed up his shot when he won Big Gold and got hurt almost immediately.  I understand you cannot plan for injuries but when they happen and you are on top the WWE doesn't seem to ever let you get completely on top again unless you are one of the top guys in Vince's eyes.

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Superstar wrote: srossi wrote: After the push Drew was getting, I was just floored when he lost to Balor, and now is stuck in a 3-way feud with him and Ziggler. Ziggler is the worst booked wrester in WWE history. I have never seen anyone get as much TV time as him over the course of a decade while being completely directionless.Drew and Ziggler have been consistently good - Drew since he came back, and Ziggler for about the past eight years.  Balor, in the limited time I've seen him, hasn't (in my opinion) regained the momentum he had going into and winning the Universal title.  Honestly, I think his shoulder injury in that match really ruined him because WWE was pushing him to the moon and he got hurt immediately.  They don't usually come back and push you to the moon again unless you are one of Vince's guys.  Balor is an HHH guy.  Ziggler should be getting a little bit more for all the good he's done.  But he also screwed up his shot when he won Big Gold and got hurt almost immediately.  I understand you cannot plan for injuries but when they happen and you are on top the WWE doesn't seem to ever let you get completely on top again unless you are one of the top guys in Vince's eyes.

Balor really hasn't been getting pushed though that hard since coming back from injury, which makes McIntyre jobbing to him even all the more puzzling.  It's not like they were protecting Balor when he was getting squashed by Strowman on a weekly basis.

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Finn Balor comes out there and looks like a 5th grader who's parent's can't afford to pay for his school lunch. He literally makes the 205 live guys look huge. Unless he's coming out as the Demon character I don't get why people fawn over him..

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The supposed shake-up continued on Smackdown as Paige was also relieved of her GM duties and Vince made a very rare appearance on this show to confront Becky Lynch.

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For those that didn't see it, Mustafa Ali pinned WWE champion Daniel Bryan last night.  This is what drives me crazy about WWE.  For 3 years they don't push anyone new, then they panic and take a guy that 95% of WWE fans have probably never seen before and strap a rocket to him in 2 weeks.  Why not build him up slowly, air some vignettes, give him so mic time, so that fans can take him seriously?  And was anyone clamoring for Daniel Bryan to be the victim of the shake-up?

PWInsider:

Paige is officially out as the Smackdown General Manager, as revealed in the opening segment on Smackdown Live.  It was a creative decision related to the company's move to eliminate the GM role from their TV shows.  We are told she will be transitioned into a new role, although what that may be has not been finalized.  I wouldn't be shocked to see her used on Kickoff panels and in a similar roles as there were high marks for her for previous appearances.  She was really well liked in the GM role as well.

Mustafa Ali has been officially moved from 205 Live to the Smackdown roster, effective immediately.  Adam Pearce, who helps oversees 205 Live, commented on Twitter:
Hey @MustafaAliWWE, I’m proud of you.#205Live to #SDLive
— Adam Pearce (@ScrapDaddyAP) December 19, 2018

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***SPOILER***

The Christmas edition of SD! was taped last night to give the roster the night off, and in the main event Rusev beat Shinsuke Nakamura for the U.S. title.  Again, a little tone deaf.  Rusev was as organically over as anyone without a push I had ever seen around WM time last year as I was walking down Bourbin Street and spontaneous chants of "Rusev Day" would break out and last for 5 minutes.  It was really something to see.  But that was a year ago and lack of push has tempered how over he is, and now he's just a champion with no real build either.  And why is Nakamura the victim here?  In Vince's world, WWE's problems are Bryan and Nakamura?  lol 

Also, this title change is buried on a taped Christmas show that will surely have brutally low ratings, possibly the lowest in SD! history.  So there's the fact that no one will ever see it, too. 

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Some positives from last night's SD!  Sanity and Gallows/Anderson are back in the tag title mix.  Why Sanity would be called up from NXT after a hot run to literally appear on TV about 3 times in 8 months is beyond my comprehension, but that seems to be getting rectified as of last night. But hell, Killian Dain was so hot after last year's War Games, if they had called him up as a singles and programmed him with Lesnar, Strowman, etc. that could've been huge to create a new big man star.  But no, another missed opportunity.

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The last round of call-ups seemed to be only to fill up house show cards. Back in the day, old-timey rassling cards only needed four wrestlers, and two of them pulled double duty as referees. Now it takes a cast of thousands.

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I'm reading that Raw broke the record again on Christmas Eve, getting a new low of 1.775.

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I know Christmas Eve should probably be thrown out because of the holiday, but are they starting to approach Nitro level record lows with the recent trends?

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cookie32723 wrote: I know Christmas Eve should probably be thrown out because of the holiday, but are they starting to approach Nitro level record lows with the recent trends?
I checked two different websites, I can't find any time where Nitro (even in its worst days in 2000, etc.) had a rating lower than this one.  It seems like they were almost always over 2.0.
Raw has been on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day in the past, and all of their ratings were better than this.  I suppose the Vince appearance and the promises haven't made much of an impact so far.

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They need a half dozen or so who have enough of an inventory of flippity-flop and jumping stuff so they can stretch a card with a small number of people and have every match reach the heights expected by today's typical fan.

Maybe they need to raid the next NCAA cheerleader championships, or find a bunch of tumblers from a travelling circus.

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Boz1515 wrote: cookie32723 wrote: I know Christmas Eve should probably be thrown out because of the holiday, but are they starting to approach Nitro level record lows with the recent trends?
I checked two different websites, I can't find any time where Nitro (even in its worst days in 2000, etc.) had a rating lower than this one.  It seems like they were almost always over 2.0.
Raw has been on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day in the past, and all of their ratings were better than this.  I suppose the Vince appearance and the promises haven't made much of an impact so far.


Nitro’s ratings were never this low. Again, a different era though. TV ratings in general were much higher across the board 20 years ago. 

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srossi wrote: Boz1515 wrote: cookie32723 wrote: I know Christmas Eve should probably be thrown out because of the holiday, but are they starting to approach Nitro level record lows with the recent trends?
I checked two different websites, I can't find any time where Nitro (even in its worst days in 2000, etc.) had a rating lower than this one.  It seems like they were almost always over 2.0.
Raw has been on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day in the past, and all of their ratings were better than this.  I suppose the Vince appearance and the promises haven't made much of an impact so far.


Nitro’s ratings were never this low. Again, a different era though. TV ratings in general were much higher across the board 20 years ago. 

Yeah I get that it’s a different era and it’s comparing apples to oranges, but this isn’t good any way you slice it when comparing to the final days of Nitro. In hindsight, they started the Network at the exact right time when the technology was there and interest was high enough. 

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So much for the new wave of talent.  EC3 and Lacey Evans both debuted on the Raw brand yesterday in matches buried on Main Event, which should appear on WWE Network in about 2-3 weeks. 

EC3 squashed Curt Hawkins and Evans lost to Natalya. 

I have no idea what the point of that was. 

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So far I have enjoyed watching the new call-ups stand around backstage as the main roster wrestlers walk by and give them dirty looks.  They certainly are coming across as major players.

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srossi wrote: So far I have enjoyed watching the new call-ups stand around backstage as the main roster wrestlers walk by and give them dirty looks.  They certainly are coming across as major players.

Better than debuting as a weirdo who runs around saying "pretty girls" and makes disgusting milkshakes.

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In the past 12 months, WWE have promoted 17 wrestlers to the main roster, Bobby Lashley and Rhonda Rousey arrived on the main roster, and Daniel Bryan and Kurt Angle returned as in-ring performers.

In the other direction, 4 people were fired, and Paige and Mark Henry retired.

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Kriss wrote: In the past 12 months, WWE have promoted 17 wrestlers to the main roster, Bobby Lashley and Rhonda Rousey arrived on the main roster, and Daniel Bryan and Kurt Angle returned as in-ring performers.

In the other direction, 4 people were fired, and Paige and Mark Henry retired.

And not one promotion has been allowed to have any impact at all. 

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srossi wrote: Kriss wrote: In the past 12 months, WWE have promoted 17 wrestlers to the main roster, Bobby Lashley and Rhonda Rousey arrived on the main roster, and Daniel Bryan and Kurt Angle returned as in-ring performers.

In the other direction, 4 people were fired, and Paige and Mark Henry retired.

And not one promotion has been allowed to have any impact at all. 

Drew McIntyre is doing well. Buddy Murphy is doing as much as he can on 205 Live. Everyone else falls somewhere between being used badly and not being used at all.

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Kriss wrote: srossi wrote: Kriss wrote: In the past 12 months, WWE have promoted 17 wrestlers to the main roster, Bobby Lashley and Rhonda Rousey arrived on the main roster, and Daniel Bryan and Kurt Angle returned as in-ring performers.

In the other direction, 4 people were fired, and Paige and Mark Henry retired.

And not one promotion has been allowed to have any impact at all. 

Drew McIntyre is doing well. Buddy Murphy is doing as much as he can on 205 Live. Everyone else falls somewhere between being used badly and not being used at all.

I don't even consider 205 Live a promotion since NXT is more visible.  I hope guys who get sent to 205 Live have their contracts upgraded and make a higher downside, but I don't know how that works.  But in terms of career moves, I don't see much upside to it.  I keep fearing that they're going to send Gargano to 205 Live.

And McIntyre was doing great until they took the wind out of his sails like they do with everyone.

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The cruiserweight champion works house shows and PPV Preshows, so he is probably doing better than working the Florida loop in NXT.



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