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tamalie wrote: It will be interesting to see how AEW draws as well as which venues and markets it chooses to run. Producing a weekly live TV shoot, and possibly other non televised shows, is different than having a stand alone supercard that can be promoted well in advance and then draw in lots of fly in fans.Absolutely. And to be honest, I'm a little afraid of this. It will also make my theory of taping the next week show during the live show makes even more sense. History shows the ratings do not drop for taped shows (WWF circa 1997-1999) if you put on a good, episodic TV show.



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Jack Evans signed yesterday. Yeah, I know he's a legit loose cannon, but I still like him. He's obviously past his prime in ring since his AAA days, but he developed his character in LU and I'm looking forward to see what he can do on AWE tv.



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tamalie wrote: It will be interesting to see how AEW draws as well as which venues and markets it chooses to run. Producing a weekly live TV shoot, and possibly other non televised shows, is different than having a stand alone supercard that can be promoted well in advance and then draw in lots of fly in fans.

For television, I think they would be best to start with venues like the Hammerstein Ballroom and the old ECW Arena. Small, intimate venues look fine on TV if your production values are good. 

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Guessing they are going to do a lot of taping in the Jacksonville area, just because it's their home base. But I read somewhere they were talking about using Center Stage in Atlanta because it's basically plug and play for taping.



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For some reason, this feels much different than all the other start-ups. You definitely get the sense that these guys are doing everything right and have a real plan. People are inpatient, but it’s building month by month. There’s no TNA bullshit of “We’re about to make the biggest announcement EVER!!!”  They say something will happen in a couple of months, and it does, whether it’s big or small. And the momentum keeps going without ridiculously high expectations. 

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srossi wrote: For some reason, this feels much different than all the other start-ups. You definitely get the sense that these guys are doing everything right and have a real plan. People are inpatient, but it’s building month by month. There’s no TNA bullshit of “We’re about to make the biggest announcement EVER!!!”  They say something will happen in a couple of months, and it does, whether it’s big or small. And the momentum keeps going without ridiculously high expectations. When TNA started, if I remember correctly we heard it was coming and within three weeks they were on weekly PPV.  There wasn't a full year of planning to get to this point.  I know that we haven't had AEW around for a year but I know that Cody has been planning this for a year and just needed the money to do it.  What really gets me is that a group of wrestlers were able to present their product to the Khan family and get them to sign on.   With TNA, you were dealing with the Jarrett family who had been in wrestling for their entire lives.  So if you look at the two models - TNA pretty much went bankrupt in three months and needed the Carter family to bail them out or they were toast.  Up until now, I don't think the Khan family is out too much cash thus far, and when they actually do kick off the product it should draw some people in for the curiosity if nothing else.



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Superstar wrote: srossi wrote: For some reason, this feels much different than all the other start-ups. You definitely get the sense that these guys are doing everything right and have a real plan. People are inpatient, but it’s building month by month. There’s no TNA bullshit of “We’re about to make the biggest announcement EVER!!!”  They say something will happen in a couple of months, and it does, whether it’s big or small. And the momentum keeps going without ridiculously high expectations. When TNA started, if I remember correctly we heard it was coming and within three weeks they were on weekly PPV.  There wasn't a full year of planning to get to this point.  I know that we haven't had AEW around for a year but I know that Cody has been planning this for a year and just needed the money to do it.  What really gets me is that a group of wrestlers were able to present their product to the Khan family and get them to sign on.   With TNA, you were dealing with the Jarrett family who had been in wrestling for their entire lives.  So if you look at the two models - TNA pretty much went bankrupt in three months and needed the Carter family to bail them out or they were toast.  Up until now, I don't think the Khan family is out too much cash thus far, and when they actually do kick off the product it should draw some people in for the curiosity if nothing else.

If you read Jerry Jarrett’s book, they were bankrupt by Week 3 and had to scrape just to last a couple of months for the Carters to bail them out. But I’m not just talking about TNA. There have been so many. Remember MECW in 2001?  They ran one show. All these projects were just basically signing every ex-WCW and ECW star that WWE passed on, throwing them on a show together with no plan beyond that, and pretending they were major league. 



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Heenan Fan wrote: Jack Evans signed yesterday. Yeah, I know he's a legit loose cannon, but I still like him. He's obviously past his prime in ring since his AAA days, but he developed his character in LU and I'm looking forward to see what he can do on AWE tv.
 

Angelico, also of LU, has signed with Evans. LU sadly doesn’t look to have a future. 

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AEW TV Deal Update: TNT Announcement Expected, 10/1 Premiere Date Rumored


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Shit just got real. AEW have hired referees Earl Hebner and Paul Turner. Turner has been ROH since pretty much day one.



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srossi wrote: Shit just got real. AEW have hired referees Earl Hebner and Paul Turner. Turner has been ROH since pretty much day one.

They are making some really strange hiring decisions. Guys from the past like Billy Gunn and Earl Heber (69 years young) aren't what's needed.

I hope I'm wrong, but my prediction right now is that AEW won't be successful. My biggest worry is that Cody will get pushed as the big star. The reason he didn't make it as far as he wanted in WWE is that he really isn't that good. It's looking a little too much like Jeff Jarrett all over again.

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srossi wrote: Shit just got real. AEW have hired referees Earl Hebner and Paul Turner. Turner has been ROH since pretty much day one.
Well, there ya go folks. Fold up the tents, AEW is officially the top wrestling promotion in the world. They've got the ROH ref.No, not the chubby one. The other guy.



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Kriss wrote: srossi wrote: Shit just got real. AEW have hired referees Earl Hebner and Paul Turner. Turner has been ROH since pretty much day one.

They are making some really strange hiring decisions. Guys from the past like Billy Gunn and Earl Heber (69 years young) aren't what's needed.

I hope I'm wrong, but my prediction right now is that AEW won't be successful. My biggest worry is that Cody will get pushed as the big star. The reason he didn't make it as far as he wanted in WWE is that he really isn't that good. It's looking a little too much like Jeff Jarrett all over again.I disagree with what you are saying, if they are doing things the way I think they are.  The reason?  In Billy Gunn, they get a veteran who knows how to put a match together.  He will be a good agent at the arenas, as he's seen pretty much everything there is to see.  Earl Hebner at 69 cannot be considered their Senior Referee.  He's not the Earl Hebner of even five years ago.  But Earl pretty much booked a good majority of the Women's division in TNA for a good while, if not at TV at least on the road.  I don't remember if he was the Women's Agent at TV.  But he also has like 60 years of experience as a ref.  This is a startup company.  They have six big names, and the rest are guys that are filling out the indies.  Those indy guys need to lean on people like Gunn and Hebner to learn how to make an impact on TV.  The one thing that every indy wrestler needs is TV time, and those two guys have forgotten more than any of the young guys know about wrestling on TV.
Oh, and if Cody IS pushed as the big star, you are correct - they are screwing up.  Kenny Omega has to be pushed as their Cena/Reigns.  Cody needs to be at the top, but on opposite sides of Kenny.  They can't do the whole Bullet Club/Elite deal because if they do, the entire rest of the roster will look very weak in comparison.



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Superstar wrote: Kriss wrote: srossi wrote: Shit just got real. AEW have hired referees Earl Hebner and Paul Turner. Turner has been ROH since pretty much day one.

They are making some really strange hiring decisions. Guys from the past like Billy Gunn and Earl Heber (69 years young) aren't what's needed.

I hope I'm wrong, but my prediction right now is that AEW won't be successful. My biggest worry is that Cody will get pushed as the big star. The reason he didn't make it as far as he wanted in WWE is that he really isn't that good. It's looking a little too much like Jeff Jarrett all over again.I disagree with what you are saying, if they are doing things the way I think they are.  The reason?  In Billy Gunn, they get a veteran who knows how to put a match together.  He will be a good agent at the arenas, as he's seen pretty much everything there is to see.  Earl Hebner at 69 cannot be considered their Senior Referee.  He's not the Earl Hebner of even five years ago.  But Earl pretty much booked a good majority of the Women's division in TNA for a good while, if not at TV at least on the road.  I don't remember if he was the Women's Agent at TV.  But he also has like 60 years of experience as a ref.  This is a startup company.  They have six big names, and the rest are guys that are filling out the indies.  Those indy guys need to lean on people like Gunn and Hebner to learn how to make an impact on TV.  The one thing that every indy wrestler needs is TV time, and those two guys have forgotten more than any of the young guys know about wrestling on TV.
Oh, and if Cody IS pushed as the big star, you are correct - they are screwing up.  Kenny Omega has to be pushed as their Cena/Reigns.  Cody needs to be at the top, but on opposite sides of Kenny.  They can't do the whole Bullet Club/Elite deal because if they do, the entire rest of the roster will look very weak in comparison.

I agree with all of this, and nothing that AEW has done so far shows me that they're idiots.  Omega will be the top star and other guys will be elevated around him.  Cody is running the place and has been positioned as a a main eventer in ROH and across the indies for 2+ years now, plus he was treated very well in NJPW, so anyone who thinks he won't be pushed hard is kidding themselves, but I don't see the problem.  There's never been backlash against him at any shows that I've heard.  If ROH fans accepted him as a top guy, AEW fans certainly will.  They're the same fans. 

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