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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jussie-smollett-hospitalized-empire-actor-attacked-maga-hat-possible-hate-crime-chicago-2019-01-29/

Amazing how some of my Facebook friends and a certain message board bought this hook, line, and sinker. The BS meter went off the chart once I first heard this. Originally, it was stated that the attackers were wearing MAGA hats and told him this was MAGA country. Chicago is MAGA country? Boy how I wish. First off, this is a yuppieville. That community isn't exactly known for being conservative. Secondly, just a stone throw from the area, there are bridges were bums hang out. I do not doubt he was beaten. I think he may have either tried buying drugs from the wrong guy or maybe it was a gay tryst gone bad.

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Maybe he was a Morton Downey Jr. fan growing up? Considering the neighboring hood, I would tend to agree what Thunder said in his last sentence.

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The MAGA stuff was already disproved, although liberals are still running with it. No credible source is still reporting that and the investigators said they heard no such thing. As far as him being beaten, he clearly was but my first thought about the racist AND the homophobic slurs is that it had to be by people who knew him, or he he made that part up. No one would see him on the street and know he was gay. He’s not that big a star. So I’m thinking this was no random attack. 

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Police have combed closed circuit cameras in the area and while there is footage of him walking around, there's none of a beating taking place.  Perhaps some will turn up, but given the long and storied track record of hate crime hoaxes (primarily since Obama took office; I wonder why?) I'm betting none exist.
And naturally, when the story first came out, the usual suspects bought it in toto and used it as a cudgel to attack anyone not properly woke.  I guess that answers the question as to whether or not the left and the media (BIRM) were at all chastened by getting the Covington High School story so spectacularly wrong.

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Jesus, even President Trump issued a boilerplate denouncement of this. He, of all people, should be aware that in general these things are not what they seem. Jussie claims that he and his manager were on the phone when the attack happened but he's not willing to let police view his call logs to verify. Why not?

Why do I feel it's just as likely that this rope was used in erotic asphyxiation as it was for a "lynching"?

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I saw this on the news the other day and it seemed suspicious to me. I’m curious to see if this goes anywhere?

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I love how people get offended on Twitter or Facebook at the notion that this is fake. As if these hoaxes don't happen all the time.

http://www.fakehatecrimes.org

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I read yesterday that he went home and didn't want to press charges but his agent convinced him to.  When the police showed up, he still had the rope around his neck.

*sigh*  OK, so let's use the slightest degree of common sense here just based on those facts and discounting the hundreds of hours of video that reveal nothing.  Yes, maybe someone would keep the rope as evidence.  But probably not if they weren't planning on reporting it.  And under no circumstances would a credible person keep it around their neck that whole time (or take it off and then put it back on) to put on a show for the police.

Nothing about this passes the smell test and this is going to be debunked.  This is so annoying because I hate Trump and everything liberals do is to ensure his re-election. 

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The TMZ tv show made this out to be a huge story about a hate crime of course. They show a close up of his face and Harvey and his boys are nearly in tears over the guy. He had one small scratch under his eye, and a very slightly swollen cheek. Harvey oversold everything, including describing the scratch as a cut. It was not a cut. TMZ is as guilty as anyone in this fake hate crime epidemic.

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What we all know to be true is coming out into the open. Chicago Police are now considering charging Smollett with filing a false report. Cue the race riots in 5...4...3...


https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2019/02/12/jussie-smollett-attack-false-report/

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KGB wrote: Chicago Police are now considering charging Smollett with filing a false report.
Where does it say that?  The article you linked to says, "Thus far, police have said they have no reason to doubt Smollett’s allegations, and are not investigating him."

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srossi wrote: KGB wrote: Chicago Police are now considering charging Smollett with filing a false report.
Where does it say that?  The article you linked to says, "Thus far, police have said they have no reason to doubt Smollett’s allegations, and are not investigating him."

Interesting.  They've edited the title and the article without noting it.  When I first posted this, it read:
 
According to multiple reports, Smollett had refused to turn over his phone to officers after telling officers he was speaking with his manager at the time of the ambush.

 
Smollett has now reportedly released a heavily redacted record of his calls to police however, police Superintendent Eddie Johnson said the records "are not sufficient and do not meet the burden of a criminal investigation," according to the Chicago Tribune.

 
The growing lack of evidence in the case has reportedly pushed Chicago police to even consider charging Smollett with filing a false report. CBS Chicago and other local outlets report that Johnson still wants Smollett treated as a victim, but will pursue charges against the actor if the case is proven to be a hoax.
 
EDIT:  Actually, it looks like they redirected the link.  If you look at the link I posted, it was from the NYC CBS affiliate, but now it takes you to the Chicago affiliate's website. 


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KGB wrote: srossi wrote: KGB wrote: Chicago Police are now considering charging Smollett with filing a false report.
Where does it say that?  The article you linked to says, "Thus far, police have said they have no reason to doubt Smollett’s allegations, and are not investigating him."

Interesting.  They've edited the title and the article without noting it.  When I first posted this, it read:
 
According to multiple reports, Smollett had refused to turn over his phone to officers after telling officers he was speaking with his manager at the time of the ambush.

 
Smollett has now reportedly released a heavily redacted record of his calls to police however, police Superintendent Eddie Johnson said the records "are not sufficient and do not meet the burden of a criminal investigation," according to the Chicago Tribune.

 
The growing lack of evidence in the case has reportedly pushed Chicago police to even consider charging Smollett with filing a false report. CBS Chicago and other local outlets report that Johnson still wants Smollett treated as a victim, but will pursue charges against the actor if the case is proven to be a hoax.
 
EDIT:  Actually, it looks like they redirected the link.  If you look at the link I posted, it was from the NYC CBS affiliate, but now it takes you to the Chicago affiliate's website. 



That's bizarre.  WE obviously know where this is heading but they need to be 100% sure before they use inflammatory language that can be construed as blaming the victim.

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What was said that you consider inflammatory?

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He's a liar!




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KGB wrote: What was said that you consider inflammatory?
I'm just saying that if at this stage the media or police start talking about charging him with filing a false report, before anything is 100% clear, that is a political landmine.

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https://abc7chicago.com/sources-smollett-staged-attack-with-help-of-others-allegedly-being-written-off-empire/5138497/

Who would have ever guessed.

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BlueThunder wrote: https://abc7chicago.com/sources-smollett-staged-attack-with-help-of-others-allegedly-being-written-off-empire/5138497/

Who would have ever guessed.

This all went down just days after the Covington H.S. fiasco.  Did lefties learn a single fucking thing from that fiasco?  Nope.  They bought into Smollett's story hook, line, and sinker.  They're infected with a bizarre, disgusting sickness, whereby they desperately want to believe the worst about the people who don't share their opinions.  They can't just agree to disagree, they have a powerful urge to despise and divide.  God help them. 

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Two arrests made:

https://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/ny-ent-jussie-smollett-suspects-20190215-story.html

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Aren't those two part of The New Day?

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These guys are not MAGA. Lol So much shit is going to come out on this.

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srossi wrote: These guys are not MAGA. Lol So much shit is going to come out on this.

If Elizabeth Warren can be I Indian, Beto can be Mexican, why can't these two be Redneck Trump supporters?

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srossi wrote: These guys are not MAGA. Lol So much shit is going to come out on this.Absolutely nothing will come of this. Because he’s a liberal black gay man, a few people will chastise him, but he’ll still get off the hook because even though it was fake, his story opened up a “dialogue”...watch and see..

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Married Jo wrote: srossi wrote: These guys are not MAGA. Lol So much shit is going to come out on this.Absolutely nothing will come of this. Because he’s a liberal black gay man, a few people will chastise him, but he’ll still get off the hook because even though it was fake, his story opened up a “dialogue”...watch and see..
There's no doubt that this is what will happen.  As I write this, I'm sure a few people are combing their Twitter feed in an attempt to delete embarrassing tweets, but all in all this will be chalked up as another "fake but accurate" event.  Tawana Brawley and Al Sharpton think to themselves, "Damn, we were 30 years too early!"

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srossi wrote: These guys are not MAGA. Lol So much shit is going to come out on this.
MNGA.  Alternative pronunciation is "mong". 

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So if I’m reading these news articles correctly it is alleged that Jussie hired some Empire extras to stage a incident and now those guys are cooperating with the police

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Franchise wrote: So if I’m reading these news articles correctly it is alleged that Jussie hired some Empire extras to stage a incident and now those guys are cooperating with the police
Tip to Hollywood liberals: when hiring extras to stage a MAGA attack, go to to the set of “Roseanne” and not “Empire”. At least you’ll find white actors there. 

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Superstar wrote: Aren't those two part of The New Day?Wakanda

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Benlen wrote: Superstar wrote: Aren't those two part of The New Day?Wakanda

Jussie is the first American to scam Nigerians. 

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He'll get off Scott free because all of the zillion gay and black racists radical groups that will protest for this ignorant bigot. TMZ and Fox are still backing him as of today.

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Heenan Fan wrote: He'll get off Scott free because all of the zillion gay and black racists radical groups that will protest for this ignorant bigot. TMZ and Fox are still backing him as of today.
After one Tweet, Rosanne, a bankable commodity, had by this point lost her own fucking show.  This guy tries to actually start a race conflict and he still hasn't been fired from his bit part on a nothing-happening show.  Don't tell me that certain minorities aren't protected classes. 

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Trump is knocking this actor for racism.lol what this guy did was stupid and just wrong and should be punished. He was not needed to make Trump lovers look bad. There are videos of trump supporters yelling for people to speak English or go back to Mexico or wherever. Trump inspires their racism. Just because this guy lied does not take away that its happening everywhere. That should be made clear. Hell just watch one of Trumps hate rallies.lol

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They should throw away the key on this asshole.

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I don't even watch the show so this may not even fit for his actual character but they should write him out of the show by him being killed in the exact manner of his fake ass story line.

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Spatulapup wrote: Trump is knocking this actor for racism.lol what this guy did was stupid and just wrong and should be punished. He was not needed to make Trump lovers look bad. There are videos of trump supporters yelling for people to speak English or go back to Mexico or wherever. Trump inspires their racism. Just because this guy lied does not take away that its happening everywhere. That should be made clear. Hell just watch one of Trumps hate rallies.lol
And there we go, "fake but accurate".  If these things keep happening, why does the left feel the need to fake hate crimes again and again and again?  Clearly the demand for racism and victimhood on the left is outstripping the supply. 

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They should make an example out of him, but the exact opposite will happen. America is run by special interest, radical, groups.

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Spatulapup wrote: Trump is knocking this actor for racism.lol what this guy did was stupid and just wrong and should be punished. He was not needed to make Trump lovers look bad. There are videos of trump supporters yelling for people to speak English or go back to Mexico or wherever. Trump inspires their racism. Just because this guy lied does not take away that its happening everywhere. That should be made clear. Hell just watch one of Trumps hate rallies.lol
So what exactly do you want Trump to say? I mean, this whole hoax pretty much revolved around Jussie being a victim/hero at the expense of Trump and his supporters. Would you have felt better if Trump would have apologized for his rhetoric that caused Jussie to do this?

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Smollet did this all for us. So we would all have hilarious memes to post on Twitter and Facebook spaces. Context people.

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Here's a good one. Not really a hoax, just a black woman insisting that mother nature is also one of those racist boogeymen that lurk behind every corner. This mayor (volunteer mayor, whatever that means) of a small South Carolina town woke up one morning to find that her car and that of her husband were covered in a sticky yellow substance. She reports it as a hate crime. Investigators determine it's pollen. She refuses to believe.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/mar/5/hate-crime-against-sc-mayor-turns-out-be-pollen-po/

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KGB wrote: Here's a good one. Not really a hoax, just a black woman insisting that mother nature is also one of those racist boogeymen that lurk behind every corner. This mayor (volunteer mayor, whatever that means) of a small South Carolina town woke up one morning to find that her car and that of her husband were covered in a sticky yellow substance. She reports it as a hate crime. Investigators determine it's pollen. She refuses to believe.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/mar/5/hate-crime-against-sc-mayor-turns-out-be-pollen-po/


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Jussie Smollett predictably had all charges dropped in some behind-closed-doors plea deal in which he basically just forfeited his $10,000 bond. So he got away with inciting hate for $10,000. And his lawyers were able to release a statement reiterating that he was a victim all along and didn't do anything wrong. Is this that black privilege that I keep hearing about? Or maybe it's more about class and money?

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This is complete bullshit. He should suffer as a deterrent to others to NOT pull the same nonsense. In reality, this hurts every person who truly is a victim. Fuck this asshole. They really should have thrown away the key.

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Ultimark wrote: This is complete bullshit. He should suffer as a deterrent to others to NOT pull the same nonsense. In reality, this hurts every person who truly is a victim. Fuck this asshole. They really should have thrown away the key.

Yep! Welcome to Cook County. The same county that couldn't convict Al Capone. There's always Trump siccing Bill Barr on him.

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Principal_Raditch wrote: I gotta laugh at people who continually tell me about the greatness of the US justice system. It's as corrupt as any 3rd world nation.It's worse. I know first hand.

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I do have this one person on Facebook who I used to work with, who's a hard core conservative, who is going apeshit over this result. SHe's posting every soundbyte from conservative pundits saying this proves that liberals never go to jail, that blacks always get off etc....She blamed Obama, the fact that the guy is gay and that he's a liberal for getting off.

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Principal_Raditch wrote: I gotta laugh at people who continually tell me about the greatness of the US justice system. It's as corrupt as any 3rd world nation.
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Principal_Raditch wrote: I do have this one person on Facebook who I used to work with, who's a hard core conservative, who is going apeshit over this result. SHe's posting every soundbyte from conservative pundits saying this proves that liberals never go to jail, that blacks always get off etc....She blamed Obama, the fact that the guy is gay and that he's a liberal for getting off.
Yeah, it’s blacks who always get off easy in our justice system. lol. Well if you’re black, rich, pseudo-famous, and have Jesse Jackson in your corner then yes, that does trump white privilege. 

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Principal_Raditch wrote: I do have this one person on Facebook who I used to work with, who's a hard core conservative, who is going apeshit over this result. SHe's posting every soundbyte from conservative pundits saying this proves that liberals never go to jail, that blacks always get off etc....She blamed Obama, the fact that the guy is gay and that he's a liberal for getting off.
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srossi wrote: Principal_Raditch wrote: I do have this one person on Facebook who I used to work with, who's a hard core conservative, who is going apeshit over this result. SHe's posting every soundbyte from conservative pundits saying this proves that liberals never go to jail, that blacks always get off etc....She blamed Obama, the fact that the guy is gay and that he's a liberal for getting off.
Yeah, it’s blacks who always get off easy in our justice system. lol. Well if you’re black, rich, pseudo-famous, and have Jesse Jackson in your corner then yes, that does trump white privilege. 
Skin color helps sometimes, in certain situations obviously, but in 2019, I believe it's mostly about how much money is in the bank account  times special interest groups.

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srossi wrote: Principal_Raditch wrote: I do have this one person on Facebook who I used to work with, who's a hard core conservative, who is going apeshit over this result. SHe's posting every soundbyte from conservative pundits saying this proves that liberals never go to jail, that blacks always get off etc....She blamed Obama, the fact that the guy is gay and that he's a liberal for getting off.
Yeah, it’s blacks who always get off easy in our justice system. lol. Well if you’re black, rich, pseudo-famous, and have Jesse Jackson in your corner then yes, that does trump white privilege.
his skin color had nothing to do with it , he is psuedo-famous and he is a jewish and gay and the hoax was planned by people way more powerful than chicago pd

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srossi wrote: Principal_Raditch wrote: I do have this one person on Facebook who I used to work with, who's a hard core conservative, who is going apeshit over this result. SHe's posting every soundbyte from conservative pundits saying this proves that liberals never go to jail, that blacks always get off etc....She blamed Obama, the fact that the guy is gay and that he's a liberal for getting off.
Yeah, it’s blacks who always get off easy in our justice system. lol. Well if you’re black, rich, pseudo-famous, and have Jesse Jackson in your corner then yes, that does trump white privilege.
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broke wrote: Principal_Raditch wrote: I do have this one person on Facebook who I used to work with, who's a hard core conservative, who is going apeshit over this result. SHe's posting every soundbyte from conservative pundits saying this proves that liberals never go to jail, that blacks always get off etc....She blamed Obama, the fact that the guy is gay and that he's a liberal for getting off.
You're FB friends with Travis?

Pretty much a female version of him politically. Although she actually has a spouse and kids, and isn't a 40 year old virgin.

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So the Chicago PD released a rather angry statement denying that the charges were "dropped" and refuting Smollet's lawyers assertions that he is the victim. They basically said that they prioritize violent crimes and don't have the time or resources to pursue the case further, asserting that there was some sort of punishment already. That's an even bigger pile of bullshit. I suppose that all non-violent drug offenders will be immediately released from jail now in Chicago? Oh wait, I forgot, those people are a different shade of black without the money and connections.

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Wait wait, Rossi, the Chicago PD is FUMING pissed off about this. The PD did not drop charges. The crooked piece of shit Cook County State’s Attorney Kim Foxx dropped charges. Big difference. The Chicago PD is posed, as is Rahm. Kim Foxx is rumored to have been invited to the Oscars last month. It’s just a shit show.

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Heenan Fan wrote: srossi wrote: Principal_Raditch wrote: I do have this one person on Facebook who I used to work with, who's a hard core conservative, who is going apeshit over this result. SHe's posting every soundbyte from conservative pundits saying this proves that liberals never go to jail, that blacks always get off etc....She blamed Obama, the fact that the guy is gay and that he's a liberal for getting off.
Yeah, it’s blacks who always get off easy in our justice system. lol. Well if you’re black, rich, pseudo-famous, and have Jesse Jackson in your corner then yes, that does trump white privilege. 
Skin color helps sometimes, in certain situations obviously, but in 2019, I believe it's mostly about how much money is in the bank account  times special interest groups.
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Blazer wrote: Wait wait, Rossi, the Chicago PD is FUMING pissed off about this. The PD did not drop charges. The crooked piece of shit Cook County State’s Attorney Kim Foxx dropped charges. Big difference. The Chicago PD is posed, as is Rahm. Kim Foxx is rumored to have been invited to the Oscars last month. It’s just a shit show.
The FBI is supposedly still investigating and might press this.  I doubt it though.

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