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Janis Joplin. All of her hits were covers except for her final recording (which was released after her death), Mercedes-Benz. And that album mostly sold because of her death and Me and Bobby McGee (a cover) was on the same album. Her top five hits, Piece Of My Heart, Cry Baby, Down On Me, Ball & Chain, and Summertime were ALL covers! Not to mention she was a total junkie whore, and I honestly mean no disrespect when I say that because Janis Joplin's partying would of put 95% of her male peers to shame. She was cool, but her work was highly overrated.



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Frank Zappa. I enjoy watching interviews with him because he was a well spoken smart guy. But his music is horrible. I have tried to give it a chance but I just can't stand it. I have watched live footage and I can't believe people would find it entertaining. Very cool guy though.

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I had a college roommate who was a major Deadhead, but I don't remember he ever played any of their music in our dorm even though he would played music by others (maybe he even knew it sucked).  There used to be a radio station that I listened to which would have a "Grateful Dead Hour." I gave it s shot a couple of time, but after that I just listened to my CD's instead.

The only Grateful Dead song I know is the one they used to play on MTV in the 80's.  Nice, catchy song, I guess....but the rest of their other stuff are just garbage.

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Spatulapup wrote: Frank Zappa. I enjoy watching interviews with him because he was a well spoken smart guy. But his music is horrible. I have tried to give it a chance but I just can't stand it. I have watched live footage and I can't believe people would find it entertaining. Very cool guy though.
I started listening to Frank Zappa in college only because he was different and that I was bored with what everyone was listening to.  I ended up having a huge Zappa CD (and some tape) collection (most of which are now lost).   I actually liked the way he experimented with different types of music, but I can understand why some people find it hard to listen to. 

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Dr. Strangelove wrote: Spatulapup wrote: Frank Zappa. I enjoy watching interviews with him because he was a well spoken smart guy. But his music is horrible. I have tried to give it a chance but I just can't stand it. I have watched live footage and I can't believe people would find it entertaining. Very cool guy though.
I started listening to Frank Zappa in college only because he was different and that I was bored with what everyone was listening to.  I ended up having a huge Zappa CD (and some tape) collection (most of which are now lost).   I actually liked the way he experimented with different types of music, but I can understand why some people find it hard to listen to. 

Zappa songs are either really good or unlistenable.  I have the CD "Have I Offended Someone"  and I really like it, but I bought another CD and after one listen and skipping most of the songs halfway through I was greatly disappointed.  His music is meant to be funny or satyrical and if you're not into that style of music I can see why you'd hate it.



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Spatulapup wrote: Frank Zappa. I enjoy watching interviews with him because he was a well spoken smart guy. But his music is horrible. I have tried to give it a chance but I just can't stand it. I have watched live footage and I can't believe people would find it entertaining. Very cool guy though.
Zappa is probably my favorite personality in music.  Brilliant guy and his testimony to Congress as part of the PMRC censorship hearings is just outstanding, required reading for all.  All of his interviews are fantastic.  I've watched hours of them on YouTube.  It's sickening what his family has done to his name because everything he believed in was the antithesis of what's happening now.   

That said, most of his music is very experimental and avante-garde and hard to get into.  It mostly defies genre, although some of his stuff is more clearly defined as jazz fusion and is quite good.  When playing it straight, most of his compositions are pretty brilliant even if you don't like them.  But he enjoyed just doing weird and goofy things more.  I have most of his albums on iTunes and mostly only stop to listen to a handful of them now.  I can definitely see a lot of people wondering what the hell half of those songs are.  But that was the charm of Zappa.  He really didn't give a fuck if you understood his music or not, and he still managed to achieve mainstream success.   



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Very well said. I used to love just about everything Zappa did, from the straight musical compositions (Hot Rats) to some of his weirder, experimental stuff (the stuff he did with the Mothers and later stuff like Yellow Shark). His music is definitely an acquired taste, but he was always experimenting with new stuff that it was never boring.

That being said, it's been YEARS since I've listened to Zappa, since if I play his music now my wife would probably tell me to turn it off.

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Probably not popular but I can't get into the Dead or Led Zepplin at all. With the exception of one or two songs combined, their music just makes me turn off the radio



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Dr. Strangelove wrote: I had a college roommate who was a major Deadhead, but I don't remember he ever played any of their music in our dorm even though he would played music by others (maybe he even knew it sucked).  There used to be a radio station that I listened to which would have a "Grateful Dead Hour." I gave it s shot a couple of time, but after that I just listened to my CD's instead.

The only Grateful Dead song I know is the one they used to play on MTV in the 80's.  Nice, catchy song, I guess....but the rest of their other stuff are just garbage.



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victhestick wrote: Dr. Strangelove wrote: I had a college roommate who was a major Deadhead, but I don't remember he ever played any of their music in our dorm even though he would played music by others (maybe he even knew it sucked).  There used to be a radio station that I listened to which would have a "Grateful Dead Hour." I gave it s shot a couple of time, but after that I just listened to my CD's instead.

The only Grateful Dead song I know is the one they used to play on MTV in the 80's.  Nice, catchy song, I guess....but the rest of their other stuff are just garbage.



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That's one more song than I know, so now I guess I need to YouTube this one.  The Dead thing just completely perplexes me, but I've always accepted that you just need to be stoned or tripping to be remotely interested in it, and that's not me.  And I can see drugs heightening a Pink Floyd experience, but the Dead seem like they suck regardless. 



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srossi wrote: victhestick wrote: Dr. Strangelove wrote: I had a college roommate who was a major Deadhead, but I don't remember he ever played any of their music in our dorm even though he would played music by others (maybe he even knew it sucked).  There used to be a radio station that I listened to which would have a "Grateful Dead Hour." I gave it s shot a couple of time, but after that I just listened to my CD's instead.

The only Grateful Dead song I know is the one they used to play on MTV in the 80's.  Nice, catchy song, I guess....but the rest of their other stuff are just garbage.



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That's one more song than I know, so now I guess I need to YouTube this one.  The Dead thing just completely perplexes me, but I've always accepted that you just need to be stoned or tripping to be remotely interested in it, and that's not me.  And I can see drugs heightening a Pink Floyd experience, but the Dead seem like they suck regardless. 
I rate the Dead the same way I rate Springsteen. If you listen to some of the songs as individual works, they come across great. Enjoyable songs, lyrics, and musicianship. However, when you go into their 37 minute "Space", it completely falls apart. Garcia comes across as a hack, the two drummers sound like they're playing different songs, and you want to vivisect Bob Weir for wearing those short shorts on stage.

Things like the aforementioned Touch of Grey when taken by themselves, are incredible songs. Throwing Stones actually has a majestic, soaring guitar solo by Garcia which goes with the song perfectly. Anyone who doesn't like Sugar Magnolia is a voracious homosexual who hates the troops and kneels during the national anthem. Lots of good stuff. Tons more is unlistenable. However, they have enough good stuff that they can stay off a list like this.



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What defines overrated in this case? Is that the poster simply doesn't like the artist? Is there a criteria such as limited amount of acclaimed and/or popular work, bad live performances, and so on that can be applied?

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victhestick wrote: Dr. Strangelove wrote: I had a college roommate who was a major Deadhead, but I don't remember he ever played any of their music in our dorm even though he would played music by others (maybe he even knew it sucked).  There used to be a radio station that I listened to which would have a "Grateful Dead Hour." I gave it s shot a couple of time, but after that I just listened to my CD's instead.

The only Grateful Dead song I know is the one they used to play on MTV in the 80's.  Nice, catchy song, I guess....but the rest of their other stuff are just garbage.



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tamalie wrote: What defines overrated in this case? Is that the poster simply doesn't like the artist? Is there a criteria such as limited amount of acclaimed and/or popular work, bad live performances, and so on that can be applied?

I would assume someone who gets a whole load of critical acclaim yet produced absolute gash.
E.g. Michael Jackson.  The Thriller album being one good song ("Billie Jean") and a load of filler that gets at times deeply embarrassing.
Or Radiohead.   Emperor's new clothes.  It's like the critics are frightened of saying "this is all meaningless shite" because the other critics will laugh at them for being mainstream.



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I'll say Jefferson Airplane. Sure, they were hot in the late 60's, but their overall career catalog is severely over-rated. And yes, I'm only considering "Jefferson Airplane" and not lumping in "Jefferson Starship" and plain ol' "Starship".

They've long been given a pass because they were there in the late 60's, I feel. I just always assumed their old stuff was the "good stuff"... but I finally listened to it, as an adult, and thought: "that's it?"

I compare that to Fleetwood Mac. Finally listened to their old Peter Green stuff and was pleasantly surprised.



I'll also second that Nirvana was over-rated. Prime example is the song "Lithium". They couldn't come up with a chorus, so went with "Yeahhhh". Okay, so Usher and Lil Jon did the same, 13 years later, but it worked for them.


For KISS-- well, yeah, their songs all sound like they were written by a stray Muppet. But I'd argue that Ace Frehley may have influenced more guitarists than anybody else. Not for his playing technique, but "Space Ace" caught their eye and initially inspired a ton of kids to pick up the instrument.

Plus, Paul Stanley's 1/2 of the basis for Dr. Rockzo, so there's that.


RUSH will always be a personal favorite. They were the first band whose lyrics I completely understood at age 7 ("Red Barchetta"). But they're not for everyone and I get that. Unless you live in Toronto. Then you're required to like them or you'll be exiled to Manitoba.

RUSH fans will always (rightfully) point out their technical prowess. Excluding singing, of course. Everyone knows Geddy Lee and Neil Peart are legends in their fields. However, if Alex Lifeson had been in any other band, people would put him on the shortlist of Great Guitarists.



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