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 Posted: Wed Feb 27th, 2019 04:09 pm
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Biggest joke going right now.

Supposedly offered $350 million for 10 years by the Phillies and on and on this thing drags.



Just like anything else in life, if someone takes a long time to decide something, their heart isn't in it and there's another option somewhere.


Obvious to me he is just holding out to see if another better offer comes along.

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 Posted: Wed Feb 27th, 2019 04:11 pm
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Harper is listed as only the 20th best player by Sports Illustrated, and even that may be high for him. The most overrated player in the sport by far.



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 Posted: Wed Feb 27th, 2019 11:58 pm
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The Phils will have Mike Trout after the 2020 season. Fuck Harper and his gay looking hair style.



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If I put that offer on the table for him and he walked away with a maybe, I would silently pull the offer and stop taking his calls.



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Phillies get Harper for 330 mil/13 years
Yikes!



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Benlen wrote: Phillies get Harper for 330 mil/13 years
Yikes!

Not as good as the originally rumored deal of $350 for 10.

Can you even imagine how much Philly is going to regret this in Year 7, to say nothing of Year 13?  I get that you pay a premium for the productive years up front and then take a hit on the back-end, but this is crazy.  With all the talk about downward spirals of veterans after age 33, Harper is definitely not one of those guys who is going to reverse that trend.

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I predict they will regret this deal on the back end.



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He turned down 300/10 from the Nats last year. He signed for less per year.

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Did no one learn from the Pujols 10 year deal?

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srossi wrote: Benlen wrote: Phillies get Harper for 330 mil/13 years
Yikes!

Not as good as the originally rumored deal of $350 for 10.

Can you even imagine how much Philly is going to regret this in Year 7, to say nothing of Year 13?  I get that you pay a premium for the productive years up front and then take a hit on the back-end, but this is crazy.  With all the talk about downward spirals of veterans after age 33, Harper is definitely not one of those guys who is going to reverse that trend.

The National league will have the DH within 2 to 3 years max. He can DH in his mid 30's on.



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srossi wrote: Benlen wrote: Phillies get Harper for 330 mil/13 years
Yikes!

Not as good as the originally rumored deal of $350 for 10.

Can you even imagine how much Philly is going to regret this in Year 7, to say nothing of Year 13?  I get that you pay a premium for the productive years up front and then take a hit on the back-end, but this is crazy.  With all the talk about downward spirals of veterans after age 33, Harper is definitely not one of those guys who is going to reverse that trend.

It's almost as bad as Stanton's contract.



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I think everyone's overreacting to this a bit. The AAV is actually lower than I'd have predicted. Harper's young enough that he'll be 39 when the actual contract ends, hardly a senior citizen. Albert Pujols was 32 years old on opening day of his first season in Anaheim; Harper turned 26 in October -- a huge difference. The Phillies are going to get his prime seasons and beyond. Certainly, a dozen years from now he won't be close to the highest paid player in the game, so it won't seem quite so egregious, and that's assuming he hasn't been dealt or bought out by then. And finally, the Phillies have a ton of money to play with. What good does it do them to sit on it?



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Harper took less money than was on the table from pretty much all the other teams when you look at average annual value. He did this not only because he wanted to play in a city where he would be happy to bring his family to, but also because he wanted to build something to win Championships with. He overruled Boras and made sure that there was no opt-out clause in the deal and he wanted a full no-trade. He said "I want to build a winner and how can I convince players to come and join me if they aren't sure that I will be here in 3-4 years". To me, it appears that Bryce Harper has grown up and the 'me first' attitude he had in years past is gone. And I think the Phillies made out like thieves because the contract is so team friendly that they can really make a big push for Mike Trout this coming offseason. And with Trout growing up a Phillies fan and being an Eagles season ticket holder, I think that if they just treat him with the same respect as they did Harper it's a slam dunk that he signs this coming offseason.
Think about it in these terms - in 8 years, the superstars will be making $40M per season.  Whether or not Bryce is a superstar in 8 years is debatable, but he won't even be in the top 25 highest paid players.  It's not like Stanton where the dollars increase each year - Harper gets the same salary for 10 years, then the last two are lower.  This season he makes the most because he got a $20M signing bonus.



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Was just listening to MLB radio and the host was very chuffed about the deal the Phillies got. As he put it, the Phillies got 13 years for the same money that most people expected him to see in 10. In other words, they get three "free" years at the back end of the contract. Those years are in the contract to lower the AAV, which puts the Phillies in a good place regarding the luxury tax and frees up money to make a serious run at Mike Trout. Also, with no opt-out, the Phillies hold all the cards going forward. On a year-to-year basis, they signed him for a good deal less than Machado. Good stuff.



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KGB wrote: Was just listening to MLB radio and the host was very chuffed about the deal the Phillies got. As he put it, the Phillies got 13 years for the same money that most people expected him to see in 10. In other words, they get three "free" years at the back end of the contract. Those years are in the contract to lower the AAV, which puts the Phillies in a good place regarding the luxury tax and frees up money to make a serious run at Mike Trout. Also, with no opt-out, the Phillies hold all the cards going forward. On a year-to-year basis, they signed him for a good deal less than Machado. Good stuff.Machado looks like a bank robber after Harper's contract gets reviewed.  And Harper is the one that has Boras as his agent.  I'm telling you, Harper overruled a lot of Boras' advice and it wouldn't surprise me to see Harper get a new agent going forward because he simply doesn't need Boras anymore.  He's locked in for the rest of his career.



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