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Reported but not confirmed yet, hopefully a hoax.


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Confirmed Now. RIP King Kong Bundy, I loved him as a monster heel from 1983-1987.


http://www.prowrestlingsheet.com/king-kong-bundy-dead-dies/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=king-kong-bundy-dead-dies

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Wow. I don't think he was that old. RIP.

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Rest in peace King Kong Bundy 😞

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Another guy they waited too long on.  He should have already been in the HOF.

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Boz1515 wrote: Another guy they waited too long on.  He should have already been in the HOF.

Definitely. RIP big guy. 

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Earlier yesterday just before the announcement, I was reading an old newsletter that said Bundy, who was wrestling as Chris Canyon around 1981, had a brother who worked the Allentown and Hamburg TV tapings at the same time, wrestling as Jack Carson. I don't remember Carson showing up in results very often aside from this brief time. The blurb said that they owned a Tavern somewhere in New Jersey together. Perhaps Carson went back to that business and left wrestling. Something to look for in subsequent obituaries I guess.

EDIT- I just watched the first match on that Video Vault tribute where The Moondogs faced the team of Canyon and Carson and you can see a resemblance, Plus Carson is billed from Atlantic City.  Maybe Larry Sharpe gave a two-for-one special and trained the brothers at the same time.

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I loved the 5-count gimmick when I was a kid. I considered him the real deal when it came to monster big men, moreso than Studd, Kamala, Khan, and the host of heels who were fed to Hogan and Andre. The WMII main event wasn't exactly memorable, but some of the build up to it was pretty good.  And his guest starring spots as a member of the Bundy family on "Married...With Children" were great.   R.I.P.

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From my obit
"How I got into wrestling was by a fluke," Bundy explained in a 2003 interview with SLAM! Wrestling. "My brother was an elementary phys ed. teacher, and one of his students was the daughter of Dick Woehrle, who was a WWF referee. So my brother asked her if her father could get him some tickets to wrestling. Well somehow Dick got the message that my brother wanted to be a wrestler, picked up the phone book, and called me instead by mistake. I was around 23, just kind of drifting aimlessly at the time, and figured why not give it a shot."
The 6-foot-4, 460-pound beast trained with Larry Sharpe in his home state, before Sharpe had opened the Monster Factory gym; the success early of Paillies as Chris Canyon and Chris Cannon helped put Sharpe on the mat as a trainer.
So it could be his brother

One Fan Gang wrote: Earlier yesterday just before the announcement, I was reading an old newsletter that said Bundy, who was wrestling as Chris Canyon around 1981, had a brother who worked the Allentown and Hamburg TV tapings at the same time, wrestling as Jack Carson. I don't remember Carson showing up in results very often aside from this brief time. The blurb said that they owned a Tavern somewhere in New Jersey together. Perhaps Carson went back to that business and left wrestling. Something to look for in subsequent obituaries I guess.

EDIT- I just watched the first match on that Video Vault tribute where The Moondogs faced the team of Canyon and Carson and you can see a resemblance, Plus Carson is billed from Atlantic City.  Maybe Larry Sharpe gave a two-for-one special and trained the brothers at the same time.

Here's the link to my obit:http://slam.canoe.com/Slam/Wrestling/2019/03/05/22793720.html

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Was surprised by this today, but in reality I'm not. I've seen a little bit of Bundy online the past five years or so, and he just didn't look healthy. I attributed it to aging, and carrying the extra lbs. But facially, he's looked even more gaunt and sick it seems every time I see photos or videos of an appearance. I'm not surprised he was 61, I was thinking he was closer to 70 as even though he was young when he fought Fritz in the Cotton Bowl, I never would have believed that Fritz would hitch his wagon to a guy that basically broke into the business a year earlier.

I hated Bundy. Which means he was one helluva talent - it was his job to make me hate him. Rest in Peace and I hope one of the current talents does a five count in his honor on maybe the PPV this weekend or possibly Raw on Monday.

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GregOliver wrote: From my obit
"How I got into wrestling was by a fluke," Bundy explained in a 2003 interview with SLAM! Wrestling. "My brother was an elementary phys ed. teacher, and one of his students was the daughter of Dick Woehrle, who was a WWF referee. So my brother asked her if her father could get him some tickets to wrestling. Well somehow Dick got the message that my brother wanted to be a wrestler, picked up the phone book, and called me instead by mistake. I was around 23, just kind of drifting aimlessly at the time, and figured why not give it a shot."
The 6-foot-4, 460-pound beast trained with Larry Sharpe in his home state, before Sharpe had opened the Monster Factory gym; the success early of Paillies as Chris Canyon and Chris Cannon helped put Sharpe on the mat as a trainer.
So it could be his brother

One Fan Gang wrote: Earlier yesterday just before the announcement, I was reading an old newsletter that said Bundy, who was wrestling as Chris Canyon around 1981, had a brother who worked the Allentown and Hamburg TV tapings at the same time, wrestling as Jack Carson. I don't remember Carson showing up in results very often aside from this brief time. The blurb said that they owned a Tavern somewhere in New Jersey together. Perhaps Carson went back to that business and left wrestling. Something to look for in subsequent obituaries I guess.

EDIT- I just watched the first match on that Video Vault tribute where The Moondogs faced the team of Canyon and Carson and you can see a resemblance, Plus Carson is billed from Atlantic City.  Maybe Larry Sharpe gave a two-for-one special and trained the brothers at the same time.

Here's the link to my obit:http://slam.canoe.com/Slam/Wrestling/2019/03/05/22793720.html

My wife knows the daughter of Dick Woehrle, Kristin. She posted an RIP of Bundy on her facebook page. Bundy and his sister have had a car dealership called Pallies auto sales for at least 20 years about 15 minutes from my house.

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RIP: he got some big runs in the territories, and 2 programs with Hogan and 1 with Andre in the WWF.

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I hope WWE TV gives him a memorial 15-bell count.

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should be a 5 bell count

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Maybe he'll be this year's token dead guy going into the HOF?

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broke wrote: RIP: he got some big runs in the territories, and 2 programs with Hogan and 1 with Andre in the WWF.
Maybe the biggest compliment ever was the fact he indeed had TWO runs with Hogan.  Not many people, if any, can say that.  He got the 2nd run (two SNMEs at the end of '87) and kinda held down the fort until the DiBiase/Andre angle was ready.  
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I liked him a lot & loved the 5 count.

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The Ultimate Sin wrote: I liked him a lot & loved the 5 count.

I've always have some questions about the 5 count gimmick. In every match I ever saw it used, Bundy basically forced the ref to count an extra two after Bundy had won the match with a regular 3 count.

- Did Bundy ever compete in a match where the 5 count was part of the rules?

- If so, did anyone ever kick out at 4 (or 3, I guess)?

- If so, did Bundy ever subsequently lose a match because of this?

It seemed like this was the logical way to go with the gimmick.

Big E did this gimmick in NXT, as a face, and again, I never saw any variation on forcing the ref to count an extra 2 counts after the match was finished.

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JYD kicked out at four, in theory losing a standard rules match but the Mid South refs didn't pause like in WWE so it was a match that continued till JYD retained. Thus Bundy was over even though he didn't win the North American title... his own overconfidence was used against him.

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One Fan Gang wrote: JYD kicked out at four, in theory losing a standard rules match but the Mid South refs didn't pause like in WWE so it was a match that continued till JYD retained. Thus Bundy was over even though he didn't win the North American title... his own overconfidence was used against him.
I always thought that would happen with Hogan. Match rules that Bundy wanted a 5 count to end the Match. Hogan kicks out at four, Hogan either wins by DQ, or loses by Countout. 

Bundy says he the uncrowned champion because he had Hogan down for a 3 count. 

Next Month Rematch Hogan wins by pin tells the Ref to count to 5. 

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bpickering wrote: One Fan Gang wrote: JYD kicked out at four, in theory losing a standard rules match but the Mid South refs didn't pause like in WWE so it was a match that continued till JYD retained. Thus Bundy was over even though he didn't win the North American title... his own overconfidence was used against him.
I always thought that would happen with Hogan. Match rules that Bundy wanted a 5 count to end the Match. Hogan kicks out at four, Hogan either wins by DQ, or loses by Countout. 

Bundy says he the uncrowned champion because he had Hogan down for a 3 count. 

Next Month Rematch Hogan wins by pin tells the Ref to count to 5. 

I can't remember any Bundy opponent ever kicking out before 5 in the WWF, and even as a kid I kept waiting for it because it seemed like an obvious thing to have happen. I didn't realize until many years later that he had that gimmick before.  Vince really didn't not change anything about 95% of the guys from the territories that he acquired during the '80s.  There was zero character development, just better marketing.  DiBiase and a handful of others are the only exceptions.

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He was a face, early on, before he became "King Kong". But was "King Kong" exclusively a heel? I don't think he ever worked face.

And I wouldn't count nostalgia indy appearances, where he was probably cheered.

Closest thing I can think of was late 1982 in World Class. He was, briefly, kind of a "tweener". While "on strike", he (kayfabe) went to Fritz with evidence on Ric Flair's bounty on Kerry Von Erich. I think they spun it as he thought he could make MORE money with the evidence, as opposed to actually taking the bounty. But Fritz stiffed him and offered him less (of course). Through this time, he was still wrestling as a heel and eventually formed Devastation, Inc.

I've never seen footage of his Georgia days, but always thought it was cool trivia that he was part of the "Legion of Doom", with the Road Warriors and (I think) Jake Roberts.

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In looking at old results, Bundy spent a ton of time in NJPW in 1985. I never realized that before. He starts 1985 on tour in Japan, signs with the WWF, but then does several more tours that year.

His very first match with New Japan is Jan. 4, teaming with Hulk Hogan and Kerry Brown to defeat Inoki, Fujinami, and Kentaro Hoshino. Interesting result. He makes his WWF debut in late Feb./early Mar., then spends most of the summer from May-July in NJPW with a few WWF matches thrown in during June (including an MSG squash match). His last NJPW match he teams with Bad News Allen on Aug. 1 in a DQ loss to Sekiguchi and Kimura and I don't think he ever returns to Japan again.  Even more interesting, he was frequently teaming with Bruiser Brody that summer.

My assumption is he had committed to Inoki before signing with the WWF and they let him fulfill those commitments. He was really gone a long time that summer so I'm not sure how the WWF covered for his absence since he had just been introduced. I guess they had stuff in the can from his first few matches that they spread out.

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Not sure if this counts because he wasn't techinically "King Kong", but he worked the AWA in the Fall of '84. Came in to team with Blackwell. He was Boom Boom Bundy. Worked as a face. Wasn't there long.

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He was King Kong Bundy in Georgia as part of Ellering's Legion of Doom with the Road Warriors, Jake Roberts, and the Spoiler. He did a face turn and teamed with The Masked Superstar and others, so he worked face in Georgia as King Kong Bundy.

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srossi wrote: In looking at old results, Bundy spent a ton of time in NJPW in 1985. I never realized that before. He starts 1985 on tour in Japan, signs with the WWF, but then does several more tours that year.

His very first match with New Japan is Jan. 4, teaming with Hulk Hogan and Kerry Brown to defeat Inoki, Fujinami, and Kentaro Hoshino. Interesting result. He makes his WWF debut in late Feb./early Mar., then spends most of the summer from May-July in NJPW with a few WWF matches thrown in during June (including an MSG squash match). His last NJPW match he teams with Bad News Allen on Aug. 1 in a DQ loss to Sekiguchi and Kimura and I don't think he ever returns to Japan again.  Even more interesting, he was frequently teaming with Bruiser Brody that summer.

My assumption is he had committed to Inoki before signing with the WWF and they let him fulfill those commitments. He was really gone a long time that summer so I'm not sure how the WWF covered for his absence since he had just been introduced. I guess they had stuff in the can from his first few matches that they spread out.

 Bundy said in a interview that Hogan was the one that got him into the WWF after they spent time together in Japan. Hogan obviously saw a future opponent for himself.

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I couldn't find the interview I was looking for, but if you can stomach Vince Russo, here is an 80 minute interview with Bundy about the 1980's expansion boom period.


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Boz1515 wrote: Another guy they waited too long on.  He should have already been in the HOF.
Does anyone know why this is? I know Bundy was on the (since dismissed) concussion lawsuit list, but that started around 2014 or so? He should of been in the HOF before that. Maybe, like HTM, he made more money on the Indy circuit. Those WWE legend deals were not as enticing for the talent back then as they are now.

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Heenan Fan wrote: Boz1515 wrote: Another guy they waited too long on.  He should have already been in the HOF.
Does anyone know why this is? I know Bundy was on the (since dismissed) concussion lawsuit list, but that started around 2014 or so? He should of been in the HOF before that. Maybe, like HTM, he made more money on the Indy circuit. Those WWE legend deals were not as enticing for the talent back then as they are now.

Bundy was very unhappy the way he was used in his last run during the '90s (Million-Dollar Corporation era) and he and WWE were not on good terms.  Then you have the same issue that prevented Honky Tonk Man from going in, the onerous legends contract that really hurts if, like Bundy and HTM, you're still doing indy shots every weekend and autograph signings and conventions.  Bundy was working a ton in the northeast especially up until the last few years.  And then of course the concussion lawsuit, which was building for a long time because of Bundy's unhappiness with the company.  So he wasn't going in alive.

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