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 Posted: Wed Mar 27th, 2019 04:03 pm
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Superstar wrote: srossi wrote:

The only way WWE can fuck this up worse is by having Becky beat Charlotte at WM.  She needs to get the win over Rousey.  They could always come back and have the one-on-one rematch at backlash where Becky finally beats Rousey, but I really hate using WM to promote another PPV, especially when this one was being built decently before it got derailed.I have been calling this finish for weeks.  They don't want to beat Rousey at all.  But if she's leaving, its the right call to have Becky pin her.  If she's not leaving, they've put themselves in a bind unless Charlotte can get pinned and not lose the Smackdown title.  They really fucked this up bigtime.  Only thing I can see is that Ronda decided to stay awhile longer - and they did this swerve to get Becky the Smackdown belt in the match.  But who the hell knows?  They really had the keys to the kingdom here, very easy to book Wrestlemania as it should be the culmination of a year and it just handles itself.  But they always feel the need to get cute and it rubs the old longtime fans like us the wrong way.
My hope was that Charlotte got taken out by Shayna, Marina, and Jessica in the back and had to miss the match and we wouldn't find out who attacked her until Raw the next night - it's the perfect way to start out the new year.  With all the promotion and the ESPN gig, I just don't see any way that Flair is out of this match, and at this point it wouldn't stun me if she got the win.  Boy would it piss people off, but that's what they do best.

I would have the Four Horsewomen of MMA show up on Raw the next night and attack both Becky and Charlotte.  Then build to a Survivor Series main event vs. Becky, Charlotte, Sasha, and Bayley.  Shayna the workhorse because she's ready, Rousey making sporadic appearances if she's winding down, the other two splitting time between NXT and WWE to continue to improve.  But that would make too much sense and they'd never build anything sensibly for 6 months.  But before Rousey leaves for good, they have to do this match or it's a gigantic missed opportunity.

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They put the title on Charlotte so at the end of the night you have the 4 Horsewomen all with titles and they all hug in the ring.



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Rousey jobbed clean in her last 2 MMA fights might as well in the E too.



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wittman2 wrote: They put the title on Charlotte so at the end of the night you have the 4 Horsewomen all with titles and they all hug in the ring.

Put the title on Becky, you mean? Charlotte already has a title.

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The WWE is known to swerve people, but with the main event, this is a case of needing to give the people what they want and expect rather than doing something else due to the perception that Becky Lynch beating Ronda Rousey to win is too predictable. It has been years since Mania ended with the fans happy due to unpopular wins for Roman Reigns or heels coming out on top. In their hearts, the wannabe booker insider fans of today still want their favorites to win so they can celebrate. I'm convinced that the ill feeling many fans have towards the Manias since Daniel Bryan's big win at WM30 are due to the lack of these celebrations with the fans nearly unanimously happy. The WWE has an obvious opportunity there for the taking that it should not pass up.

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Imagine if Hollywood thought this way. "Let's swerve the fans and have the bad guys win for the next five years. We don't want to be be predictable." Imagine if Captain Kirk had had his ass handed to him every week. The story isn't who wins, it's the journey of the hero. WWE's team of soap opera writers and bitter old rasslers don't seem to get this.

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At this point wouldn’t it be a swerve if the E gave the fans what they wanted?



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Kriss wrote: Imagine if Hollywood thought this way. "Let's swerve the fans and have the bad guys win for the next five years. We don't want to be be predictable." Imagine if Captain Kirk had had his ass handed to him every week. The story isn't who wins, it's the journey of the hero. WWE's team of soap opera writers and bitter old rasslers don't seem to get this.
That has nothing to do with anyone except Vince. 



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WWE made some announcements for the jobber battle royals yesterday, because six or more hours of television per week isn't enough for WWE, they need you to keep your eyes on social media if you want to follow everything...

André the Giant Memorial Battle Royal
includes: Braun Strowman, Michael Che, Colin Jost, Andrade, Apollo Crews, Titus O'Neil, Tyler Breeze, Jinder Mahal, No Way Jose, Bobby Roode, Chad Gable, Kalisto, Gran Metalik, Lince Dorado, Bo Dallas, Curtis Axel, Heath Slater, Rhyno, Viktor, Konnor, Ali, Shelton Benjamin, Luke Gallows, Karl Anderson, Matt Hardy, Jeff Hardy, Otis, Tucker, EC3

WrestleMania Women's Battle Royal
includes: Asuka, Carmella, Naomi, Lana, Mandy Rose, Sonya Deville, Nikki Cross, Ruby Riott, Liv Morgan, Sarah Logan, Zelina Vega

Sure does suck to be Asuka. Also, what's with all the wrestlers losing one of their names? Ali? Otis? Andrade? Tucker? Horrible names, and there was nothing wrong with their names before. This is clearly a Vince since, since NXT very rarely sends up wrestlers who sound like they were named by a three year-old.

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Raw thoughts so far:
 
-So basically the women are all over the place on both shows now.
 
-Batista showed a video package of him pinning Hunter multiple times like 14 years ago.  If he has already beat him many times, why did he come back saying “you know what I want, give me what I want” over and over.  Why would he desperately need to beat him if he already has?  None of this makes any sense lol.

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The WM build just never got on track. I kept hoping it would get better, but this last Raw was even more boring than the last few.



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Tuned in for the last five minutes. Good grief, is the crowd always THIS dead?
Before the show went off the air, you could see people putting their coats on and heading up the aisles.

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So the main event is title for title. Ugh. So we either get a finish that doesn't involve Becky, or someone loses their title without getting pinned. Both are horrible options.

Does anyone have a good answer why WWE (Vince) don't like multi-man matches being elimination matches. I get the idea that it's a cheap way to continue a story with the result being inconclusive and someone can be kept "strong" by losing but not really losing; but by doing that, they make these matches mean far less, especially at WM.

It's so strange that WWE hangs on to this old school booking idea, from long before wrestling was a TV product, that you don't stop a feud that's making money, you keep having rematches until the people stop paying. That may have worked in the 50s, 60s and 70s in weekly wrestling cities, but it doesn't work today. WWE is a television product now, and television stories need conclusions.

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WWE teasing the Revival vs Ryder & Hawkins. In WWE world, Hawkins' losing streak > Black & Ricochet, who have two non-title victories and one countout loss to the champions.

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Kriss wrote: WWE teasing the Revival vs Ryder & Hawkins. In WWE world, Hawkins' losing streak > Black & Ricochet, who have two non-title victories and one countout loss to the champions.They have no idea how to book a tag team division. They've always been very cyclical & sketchy there. They need to assign or bring in a producer/agent/assistant booker who specializes in booking the division only. Like what Dutch Mantel and Fit Finlay did for the women divisions a few years ago.



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