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Anybody watching this?

Stephanie came out to boos, Shane came out to boos.  Miz came out to a big pop, only to get his butt kicked by Shane, who apparently opened him up.  Miz chased him off with a couple of chair shots.  Apparently Miz is now on Raw.








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No commercial, but the announcing team tells us that Ricochet and Black are officially on Raw now.  They've been on pretty much every show for weeks.

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After the commercial there is an 8-man tag.  The announcers are now saying they don't know if Ricochet and Black are on Raw for sure.  What....is.....happening?  I just feel like Vince is in Gorilla giving order on the commentary and changing things on the fly.

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The Viking Experience (from NXT) and Revival vs. Ryder/Hawkins and Black/Ricochet.

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Viking Experience pin the champs

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Intercontinental Champion Finn Balor is out to face someone new to the brand selected by the McMahon family after the commercial.  

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Andrade pins Balor.  I guess he is now on Raw.  So far the current champs are doing jobs to new people.

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Elias is out to remind everybody that he has been beaten down by non-active Cena and Undertaker recently.  Montreal is a good crowd tonight as always.  Out comes Raw's newest member, Rey Mysterio.  He beats up Elias too, but completely botches his springboard spot.

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Elias leaves, and Lars Sullivan comes out and beats up Mysterio.  It's like a gauntlet but not really.

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Roode and Gable are out to cut a promo, but the truck accidently puts the Usos graphic up and spoils the surprise.

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Usos pin Gable for the win with a double splash.

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Next is A Moment of Bliss with Sami Zayn.

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Sasha Banks is absent, so we have the Illconics vs. Bayley and the newly arriving Naomi.  It makes sense that she would move over since the Usos have. 
 
Before the match, they ran an "earlier today" clip where Bayley was trying to call Sasha and the Illconics showed up.  Bayley's phone indicated that it was like 8:20pm when the clip was being produced, not earlier in the day as presented.

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So far, all of the newly crowned Raw champions from Wrestlemania have done non-title jobs here.  Ryder/Hawkins, Finn Balor, and now the Illconics all losing by pin fall tonight.  Not sure how that helps continue the Wrestlemania momentum, but that’s current WWE booking. 
 

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The weird Lizard that laughs like Bray Wyatt pops out of the box again.

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Next up, EC3 vs. Braun Strowman.

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The bell never rings, but Braun beats up EC3 in the ring, in the aisle, and smashes him through the covered platform next to the stage.  The whole segment lasted about a minute and a half.

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Here comes Becky Two-Belts.  She's scheduled to take on Ruby Riott.

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Becky taps Ruby Riott, and beats up the other members of the Riott Squad after the match.  The commentators talk about the likelihood of the Riott Squad being broken up.

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The commentators, the talent, the interview segments are all working extremely hard to put over the "Superstar Shake Up" almost non-stop.

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After some lackluster promos, which included the crowd balking at Natalya referring to herself as the best there is, best there was, and best there ever will be, we get Natalya vs. Lacey Evans to determine the #1 contender.

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Lacey Evans beats Natalya with a moonsault.  She is on Raw now exclusively, according to the story.

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Main Event Time:
Roman Reigns, Seth Rollins, and AJ Styles vs. Baron Corbin, McIntyre, and Lashley

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AJ Styles pins Bobby Lashley for the win.

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According to what happened tonight, here are some of the changes to Raw:
AJ Styles
The Miz
Andrade
Rey Mysterio
Lars Sullivan
Sami Zayn
EC3
 
Naomi
Lacey Evans
 
 
Raw Tag Teams
 
Aleister Black/Ricochet
Hawkins/Ryder
The Revival
The Viking Experience
Roode/Gable
The Usos
 
    

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The Viking Experience? I've officially given up on WWE now.

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Basically everyone is on Raw as of now.

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Vince has announced the biggest acquisition in Smackdown history for tonight's show.


The biggest acquisition in Smackdown history? You guessed it, Frank Stallone.


My guess is Brock or Roman.

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AJ moved to Raw so I think it’s obvious that Reigns goes to SD. I thought that last night too.

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Is Connor free to sign up with WWE right now? I have a feeling they want Smackdown to have its own Ronda.

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WWE added Heavy Machinery to the list of talents moving to the Smackdown brand following the Superstar Shakeup. The former NXT stars had been making appearances on both Raw and Smackdown since being called up to the main roster.

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Also moved to Smackdown

Liv Morgan
Chad Gable
Apollo Crews
Mickie James

So Gable is no longer with Bobby Roode and The Riott Squad is down to two members.

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bpickering wrote: Also moved to Smackdown

Liv Morgan
Chad Gable
Apollo Crews
Mickie James

So Gable is no longer with Bobby Roode and The Riott Squad is down to two members.

None of that is important enough to mention in 5 hours of TV, and WWE wonders why people want their release.

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I loved what little I saw of Uhaa Nation before he signed with WWE. He was awesome as this huge guy flying around with the rest of the Dragon Gate roster. Then he he got to WWE and even on NXT Triple H told him that he was a big guy who should be using power moves. What NXT did do was give him a great introduction and told his story, making him into a huge baby face. Vince saw him and his muscles reminded him of a young Tony Atlas, and he signed him to the main roster before the cum had dried in his sock. They took his uniqueness away, promoted him before he'd had a chance to shine in NXT (it looked like he was going to defeat Balor for the title at one point), and now he's just another guy.

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Kriss wrote: I loved what little I saw of Uhaa Nation before he signed with WWE. He was awesome as this huge guy flying around with the rest of the Dragon Gate roster. Then he he got to WWE and even on NXT Triple H told him that he was a big guy who should be using power moves. What NXT did do was give him a great introduction and told his story, making him into a huge baby face. Vince saw him and his muscles reminded him of a young Tony Atlas, and he signed him to the main roster before the cum had dried in his sock. They took his uniqueness away, promoted him before he'd had a chance to shine in NXT (it looked like he was going to defeat Balor for the title at one point), and now he's just another guy.
I never saw him as a big guy.  He comes across like he's 5'6".  He's got a bit of a barrel chest and maybe in 2019 that's enough to be considered "big" by default, but it's insane that they won't just let him do what he does.  And the last person he should've been paired with is Titus O'Neal if they wanted him to come across as a big guy, because Titus is one of the few legit big guys left in the company, and they don't do anything with him either. But Apollo looked like Hornswoggle standing next to him.

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The rosters should have been mixed up more.

The Viking Experience name is ridiculous.

I also think the Lacey Evans gimmick is corny and will keep the wrestler from getting over. It comes off like something from a 1994 edition of Superstars that ought to have her doing an interview with Todd Petengill to challenge Alundra Blayze in between a Headshrinkers squash and Shawn Michaels having Tatanka on the Heartbreak Hotel segment.

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Vince evidently sees money in Lacey. An athletic blonde with a military background seems like it would be his ultimate wet dream.

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Also Viking Experience is a stupid ass name. Like 1995 WWF bad.

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broke wrote: Also Viking Experience is a stupid ass name. Like 1995 WWF bad.

It's just so basic. They were bad-ass wrestlers who used Viking imagery. Now they are actual Vikings who eat raw meat. If Heavy Machinery are the new Bushwhackers, the Viking Experience are the new Headshrinkers.

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I heard Manataur and Minotaur were also options but Hanson and Rowe couldn’t agree on who got the wear the buffalo head.

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PWInsider is reporting that they were going to be named The Bezerkers until it was changed right before the show. Seriously.

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srossi wrote: PWInsider is reporting that they were going to be named The Bezerkers until it was changed right before the show. Seriously."My love for you is like a truck! Do you want some making fuck?!"
That's hilarious. I was joking that they would be switched to the "Berzerker Experience" with no explanation, a la John Nord in early 1991.

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There is a Viking Experience in York. They simulate the smell of horse shit for the proper Jorvik aroma.

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They must have 2 other guys they can bring up to saddle them all with The Four Norsemen. From Fjord City.

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Lunatic Lutefisk. The Pillage People. Lefse Rightside, the stiff but safe brawler powered by potatoes. Little Norway for the minis division. The hits just keep on comin'.

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One Fan Gang wrote: They must have 2 other guys they can bring up to saddle them all with The Four Norsemen. From Fjord City  :):):) You win the internet today OFG.

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WWE United States Champion Samoa Joe is slated to be at this week's Raw taping, PWInsider.com has confirmed. We are told he is not currently slated for the Smackdown taping.

Joe was backstage at both TV tapings in Montreal this past week but was sick and pulled from appearing.

With WWE Intercontinental Champion Finn Balor shifted over to Smackdown, it makes perfect sense to slide Joe over to Raw.

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The word backstage at today's Monday Night Raw taping is that WWE has opted to rescind moving Andrade and Zelina Vega to Monday Night Raw. The duo are officially back on the Smackdown roster after their excellent performance last week against WWE Intercontinental Champion Finn Balor. This leaves the door for that rivalry to continue after Andrade defeated Balor in their non-title bout last week as Balor is now on Smackdown Live.

PWInsider.com has also confirmed that Aleister Black will be moving to Smackdown going forward, so his team with Ricochet has been officially split up. WWE strongly teased the duo would be appearing on Raw last week, but we are told by several sources Black will be exclusive to the blue brand.

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bpickering wrote: pwinsider.com

The word backstage at today's Monday Night Raw taping is that WWE has opted to rescind moving Andrade and Zelina Vega to Monday Night Raw. The duo are officially back on the Smackdown roster after their excellent performance last week against WWE Intercontinental Champion Finn Balor. This leaves the door for that rivalry to continue after Andrade defeated Balor in their non-title bout last week as Balor is now on Smackdown Live.

PWInsider.com has also confirmed that Aleister Black will be moving to Smackdown going forward, so his team with Ricochet has been officially split up. WWE strongly teased the duo would be appearing on Raw last week, but we are told by several sources Black will be exclusive to the blue brand.


I'm not trying to be critical here, but how is even this a train wreck?

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As noted earlier today on PWInsider.com, Aleister Black, Andrade and Zelina Vega were moved from the Raw brand over to Smackdown.

PWInsider.com has been told that the move to bring Andrade and Vega back to Smackdown was made, in part, at the request of FOX as the brand lacked any major Latino stars following the Superstar Shakeup last week and that once the series moves to FOX this October, there are plans to spotlight WWE's Latino stars on their Spanish language station, Fox Deportes.

Andrade is of course, dating Charlotte Flair, as they publicly revealed on the red carpet of the WWE Hall of Fame earlier this month, so this move also allows the couple to remain on the same touring brand.

Black was moved, at least in part, due to the fact he is married to Zelina Vega, as WWE has made an effort to keep married couples on the same brand, but we are also told there were some ideas pitched for him as part of the blue brand.

There is no word when talents were informed of the move.

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When the fuck did they hire Vince Russo?!?!?!?1?1?!

Robert Roode? Ok, not bad. But what the fuck are they doing with Bray Wyatt? That looks like an abortion unless my not watching with the volume on missed something.

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Superstar wrote: When the fuck did they hire Vince Russo?!?!?!?1?1?!

Robert Roode? Ok, not bad. But what the fuck are they doing with Bray Wyatt? That looks like an abortion unless my not watching with the volume on missed something.
It’s Pee Wee’s Playhouse all over again!

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The Viking Experience are now The Viking Raiders as Vince admits he fucked up the name but will only rectify the situation by making it worse.

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That blonde wig thing on Rowe looks crazy and not in a good way

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Prominent sign on Raw last night right across from the hard cam: "Give The War Raiders Their Name Back"

Corey Graves also made a joke during the Riott Squad's match on the Shield Farewell special that it was a difficult week for Sarah Logan because her husband forgot his name.  Logan is of course married to Ray Rowe.  Not really the best introduction for a bad-ass tag team to have a name so silly that it's instantly mocked even by those who work for the company. 

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Last night's booking was head-scratching even for WWE.  Cesasro, who is solo while Sheamus is out with an injury and has been misused for about 7 years, beat Cedric Alexander in his Raw debut.  WTF?  So the top star on 205 Live comes in as a jobber?  And then a repackaged Robert Roode, who has done nothing on the main roster, beats Ricochet, who was getting a huge push until now.  None of it makes any sense.  If WWE wanted to push Cesaro and Roode, why do it at the expense of Alexander and Ricohet?  They couldn't have had one of them beat No Way Jose to start building them back up?  And they're likely not even going to push Cesaro and Roode, which makes this even more bizarre. 

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Roode, which I"m sure is on purpose, is looking more and more like Rick Rude..which actually works for him.

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bpickering wrote: As noted earlier today on PWInsider.com, Aleister Black, Andrade and Zelina Vega were moved from the Raw brand over to Smackdown.

PWInsider.com has been told that the move to bring Andrade and Vega back to Smackdown was made, in part, at the request of FOX as the brand lacked any major Latino stars following the Superstar Shakeup last week and that once the series moves to FOX this October, there are plans to spotlight WWE's Latino stars on their Spanish language station, Fox Deportes.

Andrade is of course, dating Charlotte Flair, as they publicly revealed on the red carpet of the WWE Hall of Fame earlier this month, so this move also allows the couple to remain on the same touring brand.

Black was moved, at least in part, due to the fact he is married to Zelina Vega, as WWE has made an effort to keep married couples on the same brand, but we are also told there were some ideas pitched for him as part of the blue brand.

There is no word when talents were informed of the move.

Charlotte pulled rank and let it be known she wants her man with her at all times 

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The only bright spot in WWE these past 2 weeks was seeing Kevin Owens make a fool of himself as Big E's replacement in The New Day.  We all knew he was going to turn on Kofi, but why pull the trigger after 2 weeks?  Is Vince trying to get in every angle before he dies?  What's the rush?  This is what drives me crazy about WWE and makes it so unwatchable. 

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srossi wrote: The only bright spot in WWE these past 2 weeks was seeing Kevin Owens make a fool of himself as Big E's replacement in The New Day.  We all knew he was going to turn on Kofi, but why pull the trigger after 2 weeks?  Is Vince trying to get in every angle before he dies?  What's the rush?  This is what drives me crazy about WWE and makes it so unwatchable. Was REALLY hoping Owens was with the New Day for at least a month so as to make the turn really count.  Instead?  The angle was just a waste of time.

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Superstar wrote: srossi wrote: The only bright spot in WWE these past 2 weeks was seeing Kevin Owens make a fool of himself as Big E's replacement in The New Day.  We all knew he was going to turn on Kofi, but why pull the trigger after 2 weeks?  Is Vince trying to get in every angle before he dies?  What's the rush?  This is what drives me crazy about WWE and makes it so unwatchable. Was REALLY hoping Owens was with the New Day for at least a month so as to make the turn really count.  Instead?  The angle was just a waste of time.

I kind of agree if they pushed it for like two months, it will also have a good reason for Big E to be mad at the other members in New Day for replacing him which could push a feud with Kofi. 

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krazykid18 wrote: Superstar wrote: srossi wrote: The only bright spot in WWE these past 2 weeks was seeing Kevin Owens make a fool of himself as Big E's replacement in The New Day.  We all knew he was going to turn on Kofi, but why pull the trigger after 2 weeks?  Is Vince trying to get in every angle before he dies?  What's the rush?  This is what drives me crazy about WWE and makes it so unwatchable. Was REALLY hoping Owens was with the New Day for at least a month so as to make the turn really count.  Instead?  The angle was just a waste of time.

I kind of agree if they pushed it for like two months, it will also have a good reason for Big E to be mad at the other members in New Day for replacing him which could push a feud with Kofi.
Why would we ever expect WWE to do something that made sense?  I didn't even think of the Big E angle, probably because in my mind I would doubt that WWE would want to break up the New Day due to how much merch they sell.  It's insane how much New Day merch is out there.

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So, back in the day, the drafts happened on one night, and they were pretty much permanent until the next draft, and there was some build-up and some consequences. I quite enjoyed the trade angle between Bischoff and Stephanie in 2002 as well.

Today, shit just happens for no reason. The B-Team were moved to SD yesterday. No angle, or even an announcement, just their profile changing on the website. No wonder the fans are giving up, they lasted a lot longer than Vince's ability to create compelling wrestling.



 

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Kriss wrote: So, back in the day, the drafts happened on one night, and they were pretty much permanent until the next draft, and there was some build-up and some consequences. I quite enjoyed the trade angle between Bischoff and Stephanie in 2002 as well.

Today, shit just happens for no reason. The B-Team were moved to SD yesterday. No angle, or even an announcement, just their profile changing on the website. No wonder the fans are giving up, they lasted a lot longer than Vince's ability to create compelling wrestling.

They should treat it like the territories used to.  No draft, just let them circulate.  Change it up 2 times a year, after WM and after SummerSlam, but don't announce it.  Keep them off TV for a couple weeks when they're winding down on 1 brand, build them up as coming in on the other.  You don't have to do it with the whole roster, but you have 3 brands that you could rotate a 1/3 of each roster through if done properly.
Guys that get stuck in the mid card can go to NXT for 6 months and redevelop themselves.
You can get different PPV matchups every few months to keep things from getting stale.

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Kriss wrote: So, back in the day, the drafts happened on one night, and they were pretty much permanent until the next draft, and there was some build-up and some consequences. I quite enjoyed the trade angle between Bischoff and Stephanie in 2002 as well.

Today, shit just happens for no reason. The B-Team were moved to SD yesterday. No angle, or even an announcement, just their profile changing on the website. No wonder the fans are giving up, they lasted a lot longer than Vince's ability to create compelling wrestling.

This year seemed to be less planned out than any other year by far.  It's like when they went live on the Monday night of the draft, they simply weren't ready and didn't know who was moving yet.  You have Vince, who is old and has clearly lost a few steps in the mental capacity department, insisting on micromanaging every little thing while also being spread too thin with business decisions and the XFL and other shit.  He just can't do it anymore.  It must be an absolute nightmare to get anything done there.  I've been driven to fits at work over the years with supervisors who weren't 25% as bad as this. 

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I honestly think that WWE is going to collapse under its own weight in the next few years.

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Gallows and Anderson are now on Raw because........



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