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 Posted: Wed May 15th, 2019 10:35 pm
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tamalie wrote: As a Timberwolves fan, my opinions of Jimmy Butler aren't exactly positive due to how he left here. That admission out of the way, the Sixers would be nuts to sign him to the kind of large, long term deal he wants. Jimmy Buckets will be 30 by the start of next season. In eight NBA seasons he has played more than 70 games on just two occasions, one of which was his second year in the league when he was getting 26 minutes per game and the other in 2016-17. Butler is very good, but you can find another 2/3 swing player a lot more easily than another Ben Simmons. For all of his flaws, finding another Ben Simmons would be much harder than finding another Jimmy Butler.

Speaking of Simmons, a straight up deal of Simmons for LeBron won't work due to the salary disparity and luxury tax issues in Philly.
I would take Butler over Simmons any day. Simmons is a 6'11 guard. Height is all he offers. He can't make a jump shot to save his life. If he put on some weight and plays down low I may change my mind but Butler is my choice between those two.



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Benlen wrote: tamalie wrote: As a Timberwolves fan, my opinions of Jimmy Butler aren't exactly positive due to how he left here. That admission out of the way, the Sixers would be nuts to sign him to the kind of large, long term deal he wants. Jimmy Buckets will be 30 by the start of next season. In eight NBA seasons he has played more than 70 games on just two occasions, one of which was his second year in the league when he was getting 26 minutes per game and the other in 2016-17. Butler is very good, but you can find another 2/3 swing player a lot more easily than another Ben Simmons. For all of his flaws, finding another Ben Simmons would be much harder than finding another Jimmy Butler.

Speaking of Simmons, a straight up deal of Simmons for LeBron won't work due to the salary disparity and luxury tax issues in Philly.
I would take Butler over Simmons any day. Simmons is a 6'11 guard. Height is all he offers. He can't make a jump shot to save his life. If he put on some weight and plays down low I may change my mind but Butler is my choice between those two.   

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The Sixers will definitely keep Ben. They want to keep Butler but that is entirely up to him. He will be offered the max contract. If he declines, he losses $30m. Up to him. Ben is still on a rookie contract. He will sign his extension next year.

It is not a choice between the two at all. However, Butler is 7 years older than Ben, and has more miles on him.

As for how he left Minn, I don't care. The young stars there are soft. He didn't want to be stuck with them. I hope he signs an extension with the Sixers. The last year or 2 could be a waste but the window is only open for as long as Embiid has a career which probably isn't longer than 3 or 4 years anyway.

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Ultimark wrote: The Sixers will definitely keep Ben. They want to keep Butler but that is entirely up to him. He will be offered the max contract. If he declines, he losses $30m. Up to him. Ben is still on a rookie contract. He will sign his extension next year.

It is not a choice between the two at all. However, Butler is 7 years older than Ben, and has more miles on him.

As for how he left Minn, I don't care. The young stars there are soft. He didn't want to be stuck with them. I hope he signs an extension with the Sixers. The last year or 2 could be a waste but the window is only open for as long as Embiid has a career which probably isn't longer than 3 or 4 years anyway.

I would sign Jimmy if i want to get the best out of Embiid and Simmons because Jimmy is the perfect asshole that will get Simmons and Embiid to work on their flaws and also Jimmy asshole ways will expose how mentally tough Simmons and Embiid are because you seen how soft Wiggins and Towns were when Jimmy killed them destroying them with 13,14, 15th and g leaguers in practice.

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krazykid18 wrote: Ultimark wrote: The Sixers will definitely keep Ben. They want to keep Butler but that is entirely up to him. He will be offered the max contract. If he declines, he losses $30m. Up to him. Ben is still on a rookie contract. He will sign his extension next year.

It is not a choice between the two at all. However, Butler is 7 years older than Ben, and has more miles on him.

As for how he left Minn, I don't care. The young stars there are soft. He didn't want to be stuck with them. I hope he signs an extension with the Sixers. The last year or 2 could be a waste but the window is only open for as long as Embiid has a career which probably isn't longer than 3 or 4 years anyway.

I would sign Jimmy if i want to get the best out of Embiid and Simmons because Jimmy is the perfect asshole that will get Simmons and Embiid to work on their flaws and also Jimmy asshole ways will expose how mentally tough Simmons and Embiid are because you seen how soft Wiggins and Towns were when Jimmy killed them destroying them with 13,14, 15th and g leaguers in practice.

Yup, and he took that right out of the Michael Jordan playbook.

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 Posted: Sat May 18th, 2019 10:53 am
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krazykid18 wrote: Ultimark wrote: The Sixers will definitely keep Ben. They want to keep Butler but that is entirely up to him. He will be offered the max contract. If he declines, he losses $30m. Up to him. Ben is still on a rookie contract. He will sign his extension next year.

It is not a choice between the two at all. However, Butler is 7 years older than Ben, and has more miles on him.

As for how he left Minn, I don't care. The young stars there are soft. He didn't want to be stuck with them. I hope he signs an extension with the Sixers. The last year or 2 could be a waste but the window is only open for as long as Embiid has a career which probably isn't longer than 3 or 4 years anyway.

I would sign Jimmy if i want to get the best out of Embiid and Simmons because Jimmy is the perfect asshole that will get Simmons and Embiid to work on their flaws and also Jimmy asshole ways will expose how mentally tough Simmons and Embiid are because you seen how soft Wiggins and Towns were when Jimmy killed them destroying them with 13,14, 15th and g leaguers in practice.

Agree with you 1000%. Butler is needed for the Sixers and I'd take him over Harris anyday (even though Harris is apparently a done deal).



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Tanking , Trust The Process ….none of it worked in the end

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beejmi wrote: Tanking , Trust The Process ….none of it worked in the end
I called it having a bad GM ( Brand) signing an over the hill Al Hoford and the biggest mistake was letting Jimmy "By God" Butler leave for fucking Tobias Harris. Losing Simmonds hurt the Sixers bad and they haven't built any sort of bench at all. I LOVED Butler as he was the miserable motherfucker who told everyone to fuck off when they acted like a little bitch and didn't get their way.

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Are the Sixers happy with Embiid and his 30+ mil contract?



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Benlen wrote: Are the Sixers happy with Embiid and his 30+ mil contract?
When he decides to play, then yes. Embiid sometimes appears to be going through the motions at times. This season he made $27.5M and next is $29.5M. Embiid plays outside and settles for the jump shot WAY too much this past 2 seasons. I'm more worried about Simmonds and his reluctance to shot from outside. Next year, his extension kicks in and he will make the following.
2020-21: $ 29.25M
2021-22: $ 31.59M
2022-23: $ 33.93M
2023-24: $ 36.27M
2024-25: $ 38.61M

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The question for that much money should be : Will we ever win a championship with Embiid?


Um, no.

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beejmi wrote: The question for that much money should be : Will we ever win a championship with Embiid?


Um, no.

I think it's more will they ever win a title with Simmonds.

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freebirdsforever2019 wrote: beejmi wrote: The question for that much money should be : Will we ever win a championship with Embiid?


Um, no.

I think it's more will they ever win a title with Simmonds.

Who's Simmonds?



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freebirdsforever2019 wrote: beejmi wrote: The question for that much money should be : Will we ever win a championship with Embiid?


Um, no.

I think it's more will they ever win a title with Simmonds
Yeah i think they will get rid of embiid and get shooters to pair up with Simmons


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Angelic Assassin wrote: freebirdsforever2019 wrote: beejmi wrote: The question for that much money should be : Will we ever win a championship with Embiid?


Um, no.

I think it's more will they ever win a title with Simmonds.

Who's Simmonds?

Wayne Simmonds, duh!

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