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JBL would've anally raped him by now.

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There's been a lot of talk about the future of Lio Rush.  He was backstage at Raw last night, but was not used.  There's been a lot of talk within the company that he's going to be shifted back over to WWE NXT in the near future.  Rush has been a polarizing figure backstage for some time among other wrestlers, dating back to the November 2018 European tour, where as the junior member of the tour, he blew off  what has long been considered standard backstage etiquette for the junior member of the roster on overseas tours, including being at the gorilla position after matches to provide water to talents as they returned from the ring as well as carrying coolers and drinks into the hotels where the roster was staying in order to set up a common area where everyone could socialize privately together.  These sorts of menial jobs are often done to show respect to the locker room and the business and are usually passed on to the next junior member of the locker room when someone else is brought up to the main roster.  Given that this was his first European tour, those responsibilities would have technically fallen on Rush’s shoulders.  When several veterans tried to explain to Rush that he was making a mistake at the time, he blew off the advice and complained to WWE management, which didn't score him any points.  Things calmed down in recent months, but there have been additional issues, including Rush allegedly bringing friends and relatives backstage without proper credentials and other moments where he has blown off counsel of senior Raw roster members.   Rush has completely disappeared from Raw with zero explanation of the end of his on-screen relationship with Bobby Lashley.

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well bobby lashley should be mad because Lio was the only thing interesting and getting Lashley over with how WWE has handled his comeback

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Wasn't he only in Orlando a month or two when he tweeted something about how Asuka coming to the main roster meant the other women will now get embarrassed? It could have been used as a means for an angle, but they wouldn't have given it to a random newcomer, and he came across like he had zero awareness of what a work culture is.

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One Fan Gang wrote: Wasn't he only in Orlando a month or two when he tweeted something about how Asuka coming to the main roster meant the other women will now get embarrassed? It could have been used as a means for an angle, but they wouldn't have given it to a random newcomer, and he came across like he had zero awareness of what a work culture is.
I don't remember that but he tweeted something smart-assed when Emma got released and was almost fired for it immediately.  He's had tons of issues from Day One.

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I think Emma was Asuka's first opponent and was gone almost immediately afterward.  Probably the same story, with Rush commenting on a situation he wasn't involved with and getting viewed negatively as a result.

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Use Lio or don’t but to not use him because he didn’t want to carry someone’s ice chest seems ridiculous. I know I’m not in the business and I don’t know the rules but at the end of the day it is a business and in 2019 people are going to do what they want and if they do something out of line than discipline them but to discipline someone over a unwritten rule seems dumb even if Cena, Orton and every other big star on the roster complied previously. People used to be expected to work hurt but not on 2019 so why hold onto this rite of passage?

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Franchise wrote: Use Lio or don’t but to not use him because he didn’t want to carry someone’s ice chest seems ridiculous. I know I’m not in the business and I don’t know the rules but at the end of the day it is a business and in 2019 people are going to do what they want and if they do something out of line than discipline them but to discipline someone over a unwritten rule seems dumb even if Cena, Orton and every other big star on the roster complied previously. People used to be expected to work hurt but not on 2019 so why hold onto this rite of passage?The WWE locker room treats itself like it's a sport.  In baseball, the rookies do things for the veterans until they are accepted.  In football, same thing.  In fact, in a lot of cases the offensive linemen do things for the quarterback and the quarterback pays it back by hosting a big dinner the Friday before the games.  So if you go on an overseas tour and it's understood that the rookies carry the cooler, and bring water, etc. it's simply about showing respect to those that were there before you.  And the next tour?  It's somebody elses responsibility.  When you hear that a guy like Spud, who wrestled in TNA for like five years, coming in and paying his dues just like any other rookie, there's no way you can side with Lio Rush here.  He sounds like an arrogant, egotistical prick.  Just like the character he plays so well on TV.  As Rock and Austin have said, the best characters are the ones that are close to how you are in real life, just amped up.  Lio Rush has the perfect character for himself.  When somebody as respected in the back as Mark Henry - a man who has gone to bat for Rush multiple times - says that he needs to change his ways, then he needs to change his ways or else he'll be gone.  And there's no way he can act the way he does anyplace other than a small indy show. 

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I’m not taking anyone’s side I’m saying that in 2019 hazing and dues paying isn’t what it used to be and regardless of that the E is a business and if they can make money with him then use him and if they can’t then cut him loose and move on.

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WWE Raw star Lio Rush has become one of the most talked about personalities in the business with numerous reports in recent weeks about heat behind the scenes and issues within the company.

Rush, 24, responded to a number of those reports during an interview with Sean Ross Sapp of The Fightful.com website yesterday, an interview that led to WWE Hall of Famer Mark Henry decrying Rush's claims on an edition of SiriusXM Radio's Busted Open Radio show that aired this morning.

In the interview with Sapp, Rush responded to our report that he had heat during the November 2018 European tour for not wanting to handle menial tasks assigned to junior members of the tour, including bringing water to veteran talents at the gorilla position following their matches and carrying coolers into hotels in advance of talents having a common, private area to congregate after shows, stating, "It’s not about race and it has never been, but public perception is important to me and when we have fans that travel all over the globe and watch us get off of buses and into hotels, the LOOK of a black kid carrying waters and bags for other wrestlers is just not a good look, especially when I’m trying to portray myself as a superstar as well,"

One WWE talent who was on that tour, however, contacted PWInsider.com this morning to point out that while Rush blew off the responsibilities, The Authors of Pain and Drake Maverick, who were also on their first European tours did not. The source questioned why those three talents, especially one already as well established as Maverick was in the industry, had zero issue with paying respect, but Rush did, wondering if it was because Rush had brought his wife with him on the tour. That same source noted that there would be no way a fan would know if Rush brought water backstage to a veteran wrestler and would have been seen carrying coolers alongside other WWE stars who were junior members of the tour.

Mark Henry also took exception to Rush's claims today on the air, commenting that when he started in the company in 1996, assisting Yokozuna was his responsibility and commented, "It's not a race issue. It's an ego issue. Who are you? Nobody is exempt from being respectful to the business and paying homage to the guys drawing money. We all have done it. Steve Austin did it. The Rock did it. You better than The Rock? Get the hell out of here!"

In his Fightful interview, Rush defended himself against allegations that he had brought his wife backstage without permission and claimed there were forces trying to get him fired, commenting, "Me and Finn [Balor] are cool ,and my wife has never been an issue. There is someone who works for WWE who has hated me since the day I’ve worked for ROH and now that they work for WWE they’re leaking false information to get me released. At a certain point, I have to defend myself so that’s what I decided to do. We’re all human, and we’re all grown ass adults. The kind of sh** the flies backstage is ridiculous and I’m surprised more people aren’t speaking up."

Rush did not elaborate on who within WWE he felt was out to get him.

However, PWInsider.com can confirm there had been multiple complaints made about Rush bringing his wife backstage and allowing her to change clothes in the women's locker room dating back to the November 2018 European tour. There was also an incident where Rush brought a group backstage at a TV taping last year and when the group were stopped for not all having proper credentials, the group loudly began yelling at a female member of WWE's security team, which did not ingratiate Rush to certain members of the locker room.

During the November 2018 tour, PWInsider.com was told by several sources that another veteran talent (not Finn Balor) attempted to speak to Rush about his issues, only to be rebuffed and told by Rush that he, "works for Vince, not you." That veteran talent was later approached by WWE management as Rush had complained about him speaking to Rush, when he was not an executive in the company and therefore was "Rush's equal, not his boss." When word of that made the rounds, it led to Rush being removed from the locker room for a period of time after that tour and that point, his issues became less of a regular occurrence in the locker room. In recent weeks, that has changed.

The issues surrounding Rush are not new and have been discussed for many months. On this morning's edition of Busted Open, Mark Henry noted that he approached Rush (and it should be noted we are told Henry has been a huge supporter of Rush behind the scenes) and asked him about the stories Rush was having issues in the company.

Henry stated, "I pulled him aside the last time I saw him and told him 'I'm hearing stuff in the locker room. What's wrong?' He said nothing's wrong. It was a blatant lie to my face. I let him know that if he has a question, right now is the time to do that."

During the interview with Fightful, Rush also implied that he was not able to make a livable wage working for WWE, which signed him to a developmental deal in 2017, stating, "My issue isn’t with my on-screen role. My issue is the fact that I haven’t been on meet & greets with Bobby, haven’t been getting paid for merchandise for us that has my catchphrases on them. (I) have been sent to live shows and TVs and forced to pay for my own rental for 5 days as well as hotel while not making enough money to do so. Walking around broke in the biggest sports entertainment industry that there is while having two kids and a wife to support."

Rush's claims are interesting, especially since WWE sources have claimed today that Rush was offered a new, five-year contract that was said to be in the $300 thousand range, but turned it down, instead, according to multiple sources, asking for double that number.

Henry bristled at Rush’s claims, noting this morning, “If you can’t pay for a rental car, you can’t pay for a hotel with the money that you’re making every week then you need to change the way you’re spending. You can’t blame that on the office. If you spent everything before you got it, that’s your problem.”

As previously reported on PWInsider.com, there has been talk of sending Rush back to NXT with the idea of building him a new character and presenting him as something more than just a mouthpiece. We are told that Rush has, at on at least one occasion, instead suggested the company release him so he can “show them” what he could accomplish outside of WWE.

PWInsider.com has been told Rush has been pulled from the upcoming European tour, but that was a decision that was made a week ago. He was backstage at Raw the two past two weeks but not used. His current deal with WWE ends in 2020.

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bpickering wrote: "There is someone who works for WWE who has hated me since the day I’ve worked for ROH and now that they work for WWE they’re leaking false information to get me released. At a certain point, I have to defend myself so that’s what I decided to do. We’re all human, and we’re all grown ass adults. The kind of sh** the flies backstage is ridiculous and I’m surprised more people aren’t speaking up."


I assume this has to be Adam Pearce.

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srossi wrote: bpickering wrote: "There is someone who works for WWE who has hated me since the day I’ve worked for ROH and now that they work for WWE they’re leaking false information to get me released. At a certain point, I have to defend myself so that’s what I decided to do. We’re all human, and we’re all grown ass adults. The kind of sh** the flies backstage is ridiculous and I’m surprised more people aren’t speaking up."


I assume this has to be Adam Pearce.
It can't be Seth Rollins, so you are probably spot on

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Fuck Lio Rush. Dudes like him are a dime a dozen. I can go to Camden and find any young, skinny black man in his early 20's to fill his role as a talker and they probably could do a better job at it.

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For what it is worth, Eric Simms (wrestling agent most known as the Iron Sheik's agent for a lot of years) posted this on FB a couple hours ago:


"The word going around is wwe offered lio rush 300,000 for for 5 years. Thats 60k per year. After deducting expenses and taxes from that he would be making 20- 25k a year. I dont blame him for turning that down. He would make more working at mcdonalds for $15hr. Or any job make $15 or more an hour"

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carpetbeggar wrote: For what it is worth, Eric Simms (wrestling agent most known as the Iron Sheik's agent for a lot of years) posted this on FB a couple hours ago:


"The word going around is wwe offered lio rush 300,000 for for 5 years. Thats 60k per year. After deducting expenses and taxes from that he would be making 20- 25k a year. I dont blame him for turning that down. He would make more working at mcdonalds for $15hr. Or any job make $15 or more an hour"

This is typical of what these underneath guys make and why so many want to leave.  Anyone can have a 9-5 desk job and make much more, and never leave home, never pay out-of-pocket for expenses, etc.  Unless you absolutely love the business, the travel, the spotlight, etc. it's insane to work for WWE unless you have a very strong belief in yourself that you can become, if not the next John Cena, at least the next Seth Rollins or someone like that who will legit come close to clearing $1 million.  And even THEN, is it worth it for what a guy in Rollins's spot has to put up with scheduling-wise?  And how many guys will ever even get a legit shot at that spot?  Almost none.  Certainly not a guy the size of Lio Rush. 

WWE has created a system where the best thing you can do is stay off the road collecting your downside guarantee for doing nothing and not have to put up with all the other nonsense.  Is that really the environment they want to foster?  Since removing PPV bonuses and with most guys getting dick in merch, there's little upside to being on the road killing your body so you can make a little more money to spend a lot more money in meals, car rentals, etc.      

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To me it seems like the best thing some of this talent can do is use the E as a change of pace. Get off of the Indy scene for awhile and freshen up before a return.

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Franchise wrote: To me it seems like the best thing some of this talent can do is use the E as a change of pace. Get off of the Indy scene for awhile and freshen up before a return.
It also means an immediate bump in pay back on the indy scene.  Guys who were barely used in WWE can up their per night fee by twice as much for a good year or so afterwards.  And don't think WWE doesn't know it.  That's why it's getting much more difficult to get released.  WWE went from being the end-all, be-all for decades to being a negotiating ploy, and it drives Vince nuts.

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Well it seems like the simple fix to that is sign less talent and work to make sure the talents time with the company actually means something.

I understand the E having to staff up to a point but after awhile it seemed like the E was just being mean by signing more and more people.

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Rush has removed all mentions of WWE from his social media. Seems he's as good as gone.

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This is very perplexing to me as he came off as a nice kid starting out. I did one of, if not his first interview online when I was helping out as a writer for MCW - a Maryland indie. I also worked with him (not in the ring obviously) when I was part of the Lancaster indie LCW/Keystone Pro. He knew me from Maryland and had questions about our tag team tournament and sought me out. Never anything but a respectful nice guy and the WWE was his dream. Not sure what has happened.
I still have a JPEG copy of the interview if anyone would want to read it.

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Sure, post the interview.

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cdewar19 wrote: Sure, post the interview.

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Part 2

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Well Patrick Clark is Velveteen Dream and I think they'll have better luck with him. IMO he's already ready to main event WM.

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srossi wrote: Well Patrick Clark is Velveteen Dream and I think they'll have better luck with him. IMO he's already ready to main event WM.
Yeah Patrick and Lio came up as a team in MCW out of their training school.  I have an interview with him too if I can find it.  They were so athletic they really stood out.

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Seems like he's gone to me, although PWInsider doesn't say it:

MCW announced today that Lio Rush, who first trained there before signing with WWE, will be returning to the promotion next week to make a special signing appearance on Saturday 6/1 in Joppa, MD to benefit MCW star The Bruiser, who is battling leukemia.  It will be Rush's first appearance for the promotiion since signing with WWE.

PWInsider is still saying that Rush is under contract and is expected to be sent to NXT in a move that is designed to try to make everyone happy. 

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For several years, we did conventions. I started the tradition that the low new man or woman was responsible for setting up our booth. I made one exception when a new woman to the company was too small to lift some of the stuff. I set up with her. The only other rule I had was you could party all you wanted but I better see you at the booth at 8 am. We usually had 4 people go to these conferences. 3 were usually hung over. All except me.

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Ultimark wrote: For several years, we did conventions. I started the tradition that the low new man or woman was responsible for setting up our booth. I made one exception when a new woman to the company was too small to lift some of the stuff. I set up with her. The only other rule I had was you could party all you wanted but I better see you at the booth at 8 am. We usually had 4 people go to these conferences. 3 were usually hung over. All except me.

Lio Rush is smaller than most small women.



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