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 Posted: Thu Jun 6th, 2019 05:07 pm
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The fact that a two time loser has a double digit lead over his competitors speaks volumes on how horrible the Dem party is. This guy couldn't make headwaves in 1988 when Dukakis was the frontrunner. Dukakis may have been the worst candidate in my lifetime. In 2008, he was never in the picture. If he wasn't Obama's bitch, he wouldn't even be running for the office.

I never really like the guy's politics or his personality.

He has a couple of things going for him.
1. As already mentioned, he gets a rub for being the VP of a very charismatic President.

2. In a field of crazed socialist liberals, his policies are sane by comparison.

3. Trump's personality alienates a percentage of the population even if he has a long list of accomplishments.

He also has a few things working against him. If he stays moderate, he will alienate the woke crowd. They may take their ball and go elsewhere like they did when Hillary beat Bernie. If he goes left to appease the libs, he might alienate centrist Independents. He has a tough balancing act. He is going to have to answer for a lot of his previous stances, such as the 94 Crime Bill. Also, he seems to have really aged these last few years. Can he take an onslaught of shots from the 83 Dem candidates? If he gets the nom, can he do three or four campaign shows a day like Trump?

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srossi wrote: nyhack56 wrote: He's a neo-lib.

Look at his voting record. There's very little difference between him and a Republican.

Even worse with Kamala Harris, but all the woke Dems who hate "old white guys" are tripping over themselves for that authoritarian bitch. Harris scares me more than Trump, but she's a black woman so there's no talking sense to liberals on that one.

Why is she a black woman and not an indian woman who is married to a white guy, she has no shot of winning an election, she won't get the  black vote being married to a white guy and her mother being indian and she being bi racial no chance  

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I think it may be this guy even though 97% of his supporters cannot spell his name correctly most times without looking it up.


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 Posted: Thu Jun 6th, 2019 09:54 pm
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BlueThunder wrote: The fact that a two time loser has a double digit lead over his competitors speaks volumes on how horrible the Dem party is. This guy couldn't make headwaves in 1988 when Dukakis was the frontrunner. Dukakis may have been the worst candidate in my lifetime. In 2008, he was never in the picture. If he wasn't Obama's bitch, he wouldn't even be running for the office.

I never really like the guy's politics or his personality.

He has a couple of things going for him.
1. As already mentioned, he gets a rub for being the VP of a very charismatic President.

2. In a field of crazed socialist liberals, his policies are sane by comparison.

3. Trump's personality alienates a percentage of the population even if he has a long list of accomplishments.

He also has a few things working against him. If he stays moderate, he will alienate the woke crowd. They may take their ball and go elsewhere like they did when Hillary beat Bernie. If he goes left to appease the libs, he might alienate centrist Independents. He has a tough balancing act. He is going to have to answer for a lot of his previous stances, such as the 94 Crime Bill. Also, he seems to have really aged these last few years. Can he take an onslaught of shots from the 83 Dem candidates? If he gets the nom, can he do three or four campaign shows a day like Trump?

BT, I know you're right wing.  No judgments.  I am giving you my point of view on politics on the left. 


FWIW, I am a crazed socialist liberal (at least by Republican standards).  Biden sucks.  This is how a lot of us feel.  I won't say a majority of us, but a very good amount.  There is very little difference in his policies and history than what we see in the Republican party.


After experiencing 2016, we see a repeat of the last Presidential election if this guy gets the nod.  And then WE'RE gonna get blamed again.  Even though all major media outlets pushed this gut from day 1.  Even though there were tons of hit pieces on the progressive candidates.  Even though we're going to run into the superdelegate issue again, just 1 round later at the Dem convention.  Even if he struggles in the rust belt and PA.  I hope for his sake he actually spends time campaigning there instead of thinking he has it in the bag like Hillary did.  That was her biggest flaw, well that and her general cringeworthy speeches.


13% of 2012 Obama voters voted for Trump in 2016.  That is a pretty significant amount of people because Obama has record numbers of people turning out.


4.4 million Obama voters from 2012 stayed home in 2016.


How was ever a "Bernie or Bust" issue?  That is the drivel the Hillary supporters give us.
Take a look at this map.  It basically shows you were Trump picked up actual voters who switched.  Every swing state she ignored.  That's more of an indictment on Hillary than ANYTHING Bernie could have caused.


Map of Obama 2012 - Trump 2016 voters

Those who don't learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.

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Biden has **surprise** reversed course on the Hyde Amendment.  



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 Posted: Fri Jun 7th, 2019 02:33 pm
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gwlee7 wrote: Biden has **surprise** reversed course on the Hyde Amendment.  
This is why he sucks.  Saying things people want to hear.  Not taking a real stance.  The more he talks, the more he looks like a DINO.
This is a guy who basically said "I'm too busy campaigning to come up with policy ideas."  WTF?
And people (Dems) support him basically because he's not Trump.  That some choice.  Giant douche vs. Turd Sandwich all over again.  Like rooting for cancer to beat AIDS.

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 Posted: Mon Jun 10th, 2019 06:08 pm
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nyhack56 wrote: BlueThunder wrote: The fact that a two time loser has a double digit lead over his competitors speaks volumes on how horrible the Dem party is. This guy couldn't make headwaves in 1988 when Dukakis was the frontrunner. Dukakis may have been the worst candidate in my lifetime. In 2008, he was never in the picture. If he wasn't Obama's bitch, he wouldn't even be running for the office.

I never really like the guy's politics or his personality.

He has a couple of things going for him.
1. As already mentioned, he gets a rub for being the VP of a very charismatic President.

2. In a field of crazed socialist liberals, his policies are sane by comparison.

3. Trump's personality alienates a percentage of the population even if he has a long list of accomplishments.

He also has a few things working against him. If he stays moderate, he will alienate the woke crowd. They may take their ball and go elsewhere like they did when Hillary beat Bernie. If he goes left to appease the libs, he might alienate centrist Independents. He has a tough balancing act. He is going to have to answer for a lot of his previous stances, such as the 94 Crime Bill. Also, he seems to have really aged these last few years. Can he take an onslaught of shots from the 83 Dem candidates? If he gets the nom, can he do three or four campaign shows a day like Trump?

BT, I know you're right wing.  No judgments.  I am giving you my point of view on politics on the left. 


FWIW, I am a crazed socialist liberal (at least by Republican standards).  Biden sucks.  This is how a lot of us feel.  I won't say a majority of us, but a very good amount.  There is very little difference in his policies and history than what we see in the Republican party.


After experiencing 2016, we see a repeat of the last Presidential election if this guy gets the nod.  And then WE'RE gonna get blamed again.  Even though all major media outlets pushed this gut from day 1.  Even though there were tons of hit pieces on the progressive candidates.  Even though we're going to run into the superdelegate issue again, just 1 round later at the Dem convention.  Even if he struggles in the rust belt and PA.  I hope for his sake he actually spends time campaigning there instead of thinking he has it in the bag like Hillary did.  That was her biggest flaw, well that and her general cringeworthy speeches.


13% of 2012 Obama voters voted for Trump in 2016.  That is a pretty significant amount of people because Obama has record numbers of people turning out.


4.4 million Obama voters from 2012 stayed home in 2016.


How was ever a "Bernie or Bust" issue?  That is the drivel the Hillary supporters give us.
Take a look at this map.  It basically shows you were Trump picked up actual voters who switched.  Every swing state she ignored.  That's more of an indictment on Hillary than ANYTHING Bernie could have caused.


Map of Obama 2012 - Trump 2016 voters

Those who don't learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.


Sorry for getting back to you late. So late me ask you, if Biden gets the nom, how are you voting, or will you stay home? 

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BlueThunder wrote: nyhack56 wrote: BlueThunder wrote: The fact that a two time loser has a double digit lead over his competitors speaks volumes on how horrible the Dem party is. This guy couldn't make headwaves in 1988 when Dukakis was the frontrunner. Dukakis may have been the worst candidate in my lifetime. In 2008, he was never in the picture. If he wasn't Obama's bitch, he wouldn't even be running for the office.

I never really like the guy's politics or his personality.

He has a couple of things going for him.
1. As already mentioned, he gets a rub for being the VP of a very charismatic President.

2. In a field of crazed socialist liberals, his policies are sane by comparison.

3. Trump's personality alienates a percentage of the population even if he has a long list of accomplishments.

He also has a few things working against him. If he stays moderate, he will alienate the woke crowd. They may take their ball and go elsewhere like they did when Hillary beat Bernie. If he goes left to appease the libs, he might alienate centrist Independents. He has a tough balancing act. He is going to have to answer for a lot of his previous stances, such as the 94 Crime Bill. Also, he seems to have really aged these last few years. Can he take an onslaught of shots from the 83 Dem candidates? If he gets the nom, can he do three or four campaign shows a day like Trump?

BT, I know you're right wing.  No judgments.  I am giving you my point of view on politics on the left. 


FWIW, I am a crazed socialist liberal (at least by Republican standards).  Biden sucks.  This is how a lot of us feel.  I won't say a majority of us, but a very good amount.  There is very little difference in his policies and history than what we see in the Republican party.


After experiencing 2016, we see a repeat of the last Presidential election if this guy gets the nod.  And then WE'RE gonna get blamed again.  Even though all major media outlets pushed this gut from day 1.  Even though there were tons of hit pieces on the progressive candidates.  Even though we're going to run into the superdelegate issue again, just 1 round later at the Dem convention.  Even if he struggles in the rust belt and PA.  I hope for his sake he actually spends time campaigning there instead of thinking he has it in the bag like Hillary did.  That was her biggest flaw, well that and her general cringeworthy speeches.


13% of 2012 Obama voters voted for Trump in 2016.  That is a pretty significant amount of people because Obama has record numbers of people turning out.


4.4 million Obama voters from 2012 stayed home in 2016.


How was ever a "Bernie or Bust" issue?  That is the drivel the Hillary supporters give us.
Take a look at this map.  It basically shows you were Trump picked up actual voters who switched.  Every swing state she ignored.  That's more of an indictment on Hillary than ANYTHING Bernie could have caused.


Map of Obama 2012 - Trump 2016 voters

Those who don't learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.


Sorry for getting back to you late. So late me ask you, if Biden gets the nom, how are you voting, or will you stay home? 

I will write in like I did last time.  I don't believe in abstaining and I believe in exercising my civic rights.  Hopefully it wouldn't come to that like the last time, but if the Dems refuse to accept change, it's on them.

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Biden has already peaked. It is all downhill from here.



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Biden WILL be the nominee, and he could beat Trump. Watch and see...



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Married Jo wrote: Biden WILL be the nominee, and he could beat Trump. Watch and see...
Same thing was said about Hillary.  The centrist policies are not working.  He will need minority voter turnout of Obama proportions in areas like Ohio, Michigan, and Pennsylvania, that will be the only way he makes up for lack of enthusiasm from a lot in the Dem party because he has no grass roots.  

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Biden looks a lot older lately to me. He aged very well but in this past year or two it seems like he aged a bunch and it caught up to hm. I dunno

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Quattro wrote: Biden looks a lot older lately to me. He aged very well but in this past year or two it seems like he aged a bunch and it caught up to hm. I dunno

Exactly. He's just slower on many levels. I looked at Trumps schedule last week and it would wear out a normal 30 year old man. I don't see age hitting Trump like Biden. There is no way he's gonna keep up with the hectic campaign schedule if he wins the primary.

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Married Jo wrote: Biden WILL be the nominee, and he could beat Trump. Watch and see...
Interesting. I'm abut 50-50 that he gets the nom. As stated, I don't think he has the stamina and energy to pull it off. Unlike Hillary, he is a likable enough person. Still and all, his popularity doesn't grow on people like it did with Obama and Trump. To a lesser extent than Hillary, people are gonna get fatigued with him. His association with Obama is wearing off.

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