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 Posted: Tue Jan 14th, 2020 06:32 am
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Heenan Fan wrote: It's hypocritical. Everything, often including the main event in WWE is junior H.S. dick jokes. AEW only does comedy in the mid card for the most part and it's usually funny. WWE comedy is everywhere on the show and it's booked to be cheesy on purpose and sucks.
I'm sorry, I didn't realize that The Dark Order were mid-card and not being pushed as a top heel faction.
Must be because I'm old and bitter.

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BitterOldMan wrote: Heenan Fan wrote: It's hypocritical. Everything, often including the main event in WWE is junior H.S. dick jokes. AEW only does comedy in the mid card for the most part and it's usually funny. WWE comedy is everywhere on the show and it's booked to be cheesy on purpose and sucks.
I'm sorry, I didn't realize that The Dark Order were mid-card and not being pushed as a top heel faction.
Must be because I'm old and bitter.


Haha...you are right B.O.M. I main problem is the booking and how a lot of storylines don't make sense. Too many chiefs have the pencil I think.

Did you listen to the latest episode of the Cornette Experience podcast?

Jim is so much better at articulating the problems with AEW (and their good points also). More often than not I find myself agreeing with him on the company. Brian Last, his co-host makes good points also. He is so right about their women's division, it is such a mess.).

I also think Vince Russo and Disco Inferno make good points about AEW. Say what you want about Russo, but I find some of his content he puts out on his "Brand" podacast network really good. I actually look forward watching every week his new episodes of "Castrating The Marks" and "Lions, Tigers, Bears and Disco" podcasts. "Master Shoot Theater", which Russo hosts with Stevie Richards and Bin Hamin sometimes is good also.

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I listen to Cornette's podcast regularly, and at the risk of sounding like a fanboy I think he is spot on with most of his critique of AEW. In particular, the way the women are being booked and having a 98 lb anime character as champ. I'm not just taking his word on it but someone else give me a better reason why Riho is the women's champ other than the booker having an anime fetish.

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AEW has signed former Impact World champion Brain Cage, who the Young Bucks are very familiar with from the southern California indy scene.

Cage was supposed to wrap up his Impact dates at the Hard to Kill PPV and possibly the TV tapings that followed but wound up getting a shoulder injury, so he has already wrestled his last Impact match. His scheduled match at the PPV against Rob Van Dam turned into an injury angle where RVD destroyed him, and that was likely his swan song.

Cage is expected out of action for 5 months, so you likely won't see him pop up in AEW anytime soon either. Cage won the Impact World title from John Morrison on April 28 but suffered a serious back injury in that match, marring his title reign. He held the title until October 25 when Sami Callahan beat him, but he barely wrestled during that period.

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srossi wrote: AEW has signed former Impact World champion Brain Cage, who the Young Bucks are very familiar with from the southern California indy scene.

Cage was supposed to wrap up his Impact dates at the Hard to Kill PPV and possibly the TV tapings that followed but wound up getting a shoulder injury, so he has already wrestled his last Impact match. His scheduled match at the PPV against Rob Van Dam turned into an injury angle where RVD destroyed him, and that was likely his swan song.

Cage is expected out of action for 5 months, so you likely won't see him pop up in AEW anytime soon either. Cage won the Impact World title from John Morrison on April 28 but suffered a serious back injury in that match, marring his title reign. He held the title until October 25 when Sami Callahan beat him, but he barely wrestled during that period.

Cage hasn't signed yet according to his wife on the Twitters.

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freebirdsforever2019 wrote: srossi wrote: AEW has signed former Impact World champion Brain Cage, who the Young Bucks are very familiar with from the southern California indy scene.

Cage was supposed to wrap up his Impact dates at the Hard to Kill PPV and possibly the TV tapings that followed but wound up getting a shoulder injury, so he has already wrestled his last Impact match. His scheduled match at the PPV against Rob Van Dam turned into an injury angle where RVD destroyed him, and that was likely his swan song.

Cage is expected out of action for 5 months, so you likely won't see him pop up in AEW anytime soon either. Cage won the Impact World title from John Morrison on April 28 but suffered a serious back injury in that match, marring his title reign. He held the title until October 25 when Sami Callahan beat him, but he barely wrestled during that period.

Cage hasn't signed yet according to his wife on the Twitters.

Good thing people only tell the truth on Twitter. 



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srossi wrote: AEW has signed former Impact World champion Brain Cage, who the Young Bucks are very familiar with from the southern California indy scene.

Cage was supposed to wrap up his Impact dates at the Hard to Kill PPV and possibly the TV tapings that followed but wound up getting a shoulder injury, so he has already wrestled his last Impact match. His scheduled match at the PPV against Rob Van Dam turned into an injury angle where RVD destroyed him, and that was likely his swan song.

Cage is expected out of action for 5 months, so you likely won't see him pop up in AEW anytime soon either. Cage won the Impact World title from John Morrison on April 28 but suffered a serious back injury in that match, marring his title reign. He held the title until October 25 when Sami Callahan beat him, but he barely wrestled during that period.

I was watching a bit of Impact when he and Morrison were building up to the title match, which he won.

I was impressed by him, but I did get the feeling he was going to have a lot of injuries during his career. He has a bit of that bodybuilder physique. With him carrying all that muscle mass and working the style he does (highflying/diving) I just got the impression he was going to be injury prone.

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His matches vs. Tessa Blanchard are lights out (insert joke here). No I'm serious. I'm not into intergender matches, but their matches shown on impact were damn good. He looks like Brakkus, but he can work. Definitely injury prone though.



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TNT has renewed Dynamite through 2023 and an announcement about a second show being added is forthcoming.  So much for TNT not being satisfied with the content/ratings.



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Wrestling fans get way too hung up on the Monday Night Wars ratings, both the WWE's highs circa 2000 and WCW's depths that year. This goes not only for fans in their 30s and 40s who really lived it, but also for those too young to have experienced that era in the way they watch wrestling now.

The situation with TV was completely different back then compared to now. Back then if you cut the cord, you watched the half dozen local channels. There was no streaming. The internet was still very new and was used differently as an entertainment platform. If you had cable, you likely got 80 plus channels and maybe not that much. No one had hundreds of channels like now. HDTV was just getting started and little was actually broadcast in that format.

The TV audience has been fragmented and fragmented many times over in the past 20 years. The ratings of the Monday Night Wars and even what the WWE was pulling in circa 2005-2007 are long gone and will never be attained again. The ratings will continue to get lower and the concentration in the past decade plus has been on key demographics as opposed to a mass audience. The top 10 rated network prime time shows now get ratings that in the 1980s would have led to cancellation. AEW's ratings aren't what the WWE and WCW got two decades ago and never will be at that level. People need to adjust how they look at the ratings and get that AEW is doing fine for what it and TNT need.

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I didn't watch AEW last week so I am fast forwarding through it now to get caught up.


I have a question...How the F is Michael Nakazawa?


I had NEVER heard or seen his name pop up anywhere until AEW started. I know he is "close" friends with Omega, but besides being that does he really deserve a spot in AEW?

I know he isn't featured much, so what the hell does he do?

I wonder how much they are paying him to be Omega's Beefcake?


Actually...Brutus was actually OVER in the WWF, so I think he deserved his spot back then.


AEW makes him look like Omega's "punk" every week by having PAC abuse him to get to Omega.


His ring work is basically forgettable..I mean he is nothing special and the baby oil gimmick is stupid. How far can you go with gimmick? After you've seen it twice or three times it's done. Right?


The Elite guys are becoming the people in this business who they complained about. They wanted to be different and "for the boys". They are going down the same path by each of them hiring their own lackeys.




Oh and that women's match is stupid. I mean "Luther" really. No one knew who he was except Excalibur.He is going on like we should already know him. This women's division really is F'ed up....Lol, Luther? Really? Jericho is just as guilty as the Elite in getting their buddies hired.....I'm sure Jericho defense is probably something like "He was such a great talent that never got the opportunity to show what he can do".


WRONG Chris...he had opportunities, including Japan where he worked a lot, and he really showed nothing special. Just another wrestler that relied on garbage matches to get somewhat known. He sucks..Nepotism bullshit.

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Besides MJF, I think Sammy is the REAL diamond in the rough in AEW. I think he will be a bigger star than Darby and Jungle Boy.

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Dark Order is stupid... What are they....In the vignettes they present a NWO (not the wrestling one), corporate type look and then when the guys come out to wrestle they look like some S&M gang with the leather and all black look.

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Scorpio Sky is amazing...He still could be a big star in this business now that he is getting this national exposure.

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I find it really weird with Arn "coaching" Cody....Isn't Cody perceived as a veteran in this business now?

Why would he need a "coach"? He doesn't need Arn to talk for him...He is great on his own.


Arn would be better served "coaching" someone else who isn't that good on the "mike" yet.

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