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Another top running back holding out.  Elliott has two years left with his contract. 


https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/ezekiel-elliott-is-officially-holding-out-reportedly-looking-to-land-nfl-record-setting-deal-from-cowboys/



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Meh...I am kinda used to Zeke not being around. Maybe may argue that Zeke means more to the team and deserved the big contract over Dak, but at least Dak is around and doesn't do stupid shit.

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I don't like players holding out. They should honor their contracts. If I was Dallas I would tell Ezekiel Elliot you aren't getting paid. You can be a free agent in two years and do whatever you want.



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I don't think any fan likes players holding out, but from the player's perspective I understand why they do it. Royalty and honoring contracts goes both ways, as teams do not always honor their side of the contract and could cut players out of the blue, as I can see why players want to get as much money as they can at any opportunity.

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If a player gets cut do they receive the guaranteed portion of their remaining contract?



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I am not sure, but I did not think they get guaranteed money like other sports. Instead, they get it up front, so he would have probably received it already.



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Lev Bell did not get paid when he held out.



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Papa Voo wrote: I am not sure, but I did not think they get guaranteed money like other sports. Instead, they get it up front, so he would have probably received it already.
Then i side with the owners 

Wasn’t bell dealing with a franchise tag? 

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Yes, it got real complicated with the franchise tag.



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Franchise wrote: Papa Voo wrote: I am not sure, but I did not think they get guaranteed money like other sports. Instead, they get it up front, so he would have probably received it already.
Then i side with the owners 

Wasn’t bell dealing with a franchise tag? 


Here ya go. 

https://www.cincyjungle.com/2018/9/6/17600618/nfl-salary-cap-2018-everything-to-know-about-salaries

Look under “bonuses”.  Some bonuses are spread out while others are up front. 




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Ok so for the most part if they get cut they aren't surprisingly going to get paid zero. They either know it’s a possibility or they have something coming.


I still side with the owners.



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Franchise wrote: Ok so for the most part if they get cut they aren't surprisingly going to get paid zero. They either know it’s a possibility or they have something coming.


I still side with the owners.

This logic makes no sense he has clearly outperformed his contract and is the sole reason why the Cowboys have been good the last three years. 
Do you still side with the owners when a player doesn't perform up to his contract and the owners go hey you need to take a paycut because you are not performing to the level of the contract do you still you still say you have to honor the contract 

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I hate the Cowboys but this is a smart move by Elliot. Even if it doesn't result in a new contract, he doesn't need a full camp. He needs less wear and tear on his body. He will report right before the deadline that would cause him to lose a year of service for free agency.

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Franchise wrote: Ok so for the most part if they get cut they aren't surprisingly going to get paid zero. They either know it’s a possibility or they have something coming.


I still side with the owners.

The real issue is that the CBA negotiated for football players sucks when compared to the NBA or MLB.  Gene Upshaw was the worst thing to ever happen to the NFLPA.  He was enthralled with the owners cocktail parties and basically became an arm of management.  The next negotiations are going to be much different.   

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