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 Posted: Mon Aug 19th, 2019 09:24 am
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Pretty much a regional 'star' , his career skyrocketed with a WWWF title win over Superstar Billy Graham. 5 1/2 years later shockingly relinquishing the title to the Iron Sheik which of course ushering in Hulk Hogan.

Backlund's title reign was controversial as critics today claim he did not draw as well as others (Sammartino, Graham)


Wrestled sporadically for many years but the end of his career has seen him take on the 'Mr Bob Backlund' role and as a heel.


Add to the mix - is he a Hall Of Famer in your mind?

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As a human being, from what I've read, I think he's a great guy. I really enjoyed his book. As a wrestler, I can't stand him.

He had good technical moves, but he was goofy as fuck. I can't stand his mannerisms. His interviews sucked too.

He was at his best in Japan where he didn't need to be as goofy, because it was all about the wrestling as opposed to the show biz.

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I know some have seen this.  Photo that wasn't being offered but I was persuasive.  Bob and Ken Patera.  Got to speak with them both quite a bit.

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is he a Hall of Famer?

ye Gods man, are you kidding?

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Judging from that photo, they need to hurry up and put Patera in the HOF.

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One of those guys where you had to be there, I guess. As a wrestler, obviously fantastic. I really enjoyed his matches with Bob Orton and a young Iron Sheik when they could just wrestle.  The shoe-gazing, stuttering promos were just so horrific though that I can't imagine an era where that could get over in NYC. But I guess it did to a certain extent. The bottom line is that if a company that size pushes someone to the moon, they're going to be considered great no matter what. Same with Cena. But neither is a top 10 WWE star all-time.

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Qaenos wrote: As a human being, from what I've read, I think he's a great guy. I really enjoyed his book. As a wrestler, I can't stand him.

I thought his book was well below average. The early part of his career wasn't researched at all beyond a cursory internet search and whatever Backlund himself could remember. The author did post on KM prior to starting the book, and there were plenty there willing and able to provide him with good fact-checking for the book, Jim being foremost among them.

Once the book gets to Backlund in New York, it gets a little better, mainly because this is what the author is really interested in, his memories of his hero Bob Backlund, the world champion in MSG. A lot of this section of the book would have been much better as Backlund just commentating over his matches, because that's clearly how this part of the book was written. Hence, anything that didn't happen in MSG is glossed over, or not mentioned at all.

I was looking forward to reading about Backlund's time after losing the title. Working the independents, Abrams's UWF and his return to WWF and the heel-turn. Since the author had no interest in this period, it gets almost nothing.

If you want a book about one fan's love of Backlund as world champion, this is a decent book. Backlund was reluctant to do an autobiography, and it's a shame that this is the writer he went with when he was finally convinced.

My Meltzer rating: **

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Boz1515 wrote: Judging from that photo, they need to hurry up and put Patera in the HOF.


Yeah Ken is 75 years old.  I'd like to see him in the HOF but he doesn't seem to care.

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 Posted: Mon Aug 19th, 2019 06:32 pm
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Bob Backlund was the right guy at the right time in the right place. Even though his promos were often awkward with him either coming off like a third grade kid nervously reading a poem at an all school assembly or getting emotional in a way that now doesn't get the reaction they were looking for in the late 1970s and early 1980s. What made it work was that Bob came off like the humble, down to earth athlete that had been largely pushed by the media from the post World War II era onward.

Guys like YA Tittle, Johnny Unitas, Al Kaline, Harmon Killebrew, Gordie Howe, and so on weren't blessed with great amounts of charisma. They were about mom and apple pie with an aw shucks thing going on. As the number of flamboyant and often abrasively quote worthy athletes grew, with guys like Reggie Jackson, Muhammad Ali, and so on, there was a desire by many sports fans to have the old kind of athlete back who didn't say much because he did his talking on the field, in the ring, on the rink, and so on. Bob had that, always came back from the beatings he took to win the rematch, and had more size and definition than people remember, looking like an athlete. The WWWF/WWF also had that strict formula that fans bought into and which played to his strengths. He might not have worked sooner, later or anywhere else, but he worked in the Northeast during his prime.

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Kriss wrote: Qaenos wrote: As a human being, from what I've read, I think he's a great guy. I really enjoyed his book. As a wrestler, I can't stand him.

I thought his book was well below average. The early part of his career wasn't researched at all beyond a cursory internet search and whatever Backlund himself could remember. The author did post on KM prior to starting the book, and there were plenty there willing and able to provide him with good fact-checking for the book, Jim being foremost among them.

Once the book gets to Backlund in New York, it gets a little better, mainly because this is what the author is really interested in, his memories of his hero Bob Backlund, the world champion in MSG. A lot of this section of the book would have been much better as Backlund just commentating over his matches, because that's clearly how this part of the book was written. Hence, anything that didn't happen in MSG is glossed over, or not mentioned at all.

I was looking forward to reading about Backlund's time after losing the title. Working the independents, Abrams's UWF and his return to WWF and the heel-turn. Since the author had no interest in this period, it gets almost nothing.

If you want a book about one fan's love of Backlund as world champion, this is a decent book. Backlund was reluctant to do an autobiography, and it's a shame that this is the writer he went with when he was finally convinced.

My Meltzer rating: **

Honestly I loved Bob's book and it is second only to J.J. Dillon's  All subjective of course and I grew up watching WWWF which makes things more interesting to me.

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Elite level wrestler. Top 20 all time worldwide, Top 5 WW(W)F(E). A total package. People who rag on his "soft" skills just don't get it. When people talk about a Dusty Rhodes interview they talk in vague generalities. When people talk about a Backlund interview, they talk about how he broke down in tears when SSBG tore up his belt or when Maivia attacked him or the Mr. Backlund promos. His in-ring work cannot be touched. He could adapt to virtually anybody and pull a good match out of them. One criticism I do have of him is that in-ring wise he didn't age well. When he was going against top guys like Boy Toy and Bret on his Mr. Backlund run he had some problems keeping up sometimes. Next to Bruno, Bob is my favorite wrestler of all time.



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Boz1515 wrote: Judging from that photo, they need to hurry up and put Patera in the HOF.

Wow ! It looks like Kenny has gained the weight that Backlund lost and way more.Was a not a Backlund fan during his first run with the WWWF title for reasons already stated here.Graham was drawing so well that I think they should have let him hold on to the title about a year or so longer. I did like it when Bob came back in the 90's, turned heel and won the WWF title. They should have let Backlund run with the title in the 90's for a little while as opposed to the 3 day reign. I think that persona could have done very well. His bad guy character seemed to be over pretty well. 

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The Doc wrote: I know some have seen this.  Photo that wasn't being offered but I was persuasive.  Bob and Ken Patera.  Got to speak with them both quite a bit.

I would have never guessed that was Ken Patera in the pic. As for Backlund I haven't seen (other than interviews) anything from him other than him getting  whipped from Sgt Slaughter



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WongLee wrote: When people talk about a Dusty Rhodes interview they talk in vague generalities. When people talk about a Backlund interview, they talk about how he broke down in tears when SSBG tore up his belt or when Maivia attacked him or the Mr. Backlund promos.
That's pretty unfair.  Dusty has a number of signature promos, including the "Hard Times" one and the one in the WWWF also with SSBG, to say nothing of just his regular ho-hum promos that talked asses into the seats on a weekly basis.  You can't seriously put Backlund's promos ahead of Rhodes'.



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 Posted: Mon Aug 19th, 2019 07:28 pm
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srossi wrote: WongLee wrote: When people talk about a Dusty Rhodes interview they talk in vague generalities. When people talk about a Backlund interview, they talk about how he broke down in tears when SSBG tore up his belt or when Maivia attacked him or the Mr. Backlund promos.
That's pretty unfair.  Dusty has a number of signature promos, including the "Hard Times" one and the one in the WWWF also with SSBG, to say nothing of just his regular ho-hum promos that talked asses into the seats on a weekly basis.  You can't seriously put Backlund's promos ahead of Rhodes'.
No needle dick. Of course overall Dusty's promos outlasts Bobby's over the long term, but Bobby had a bunch that were just solid gold. If you combine that with his incredible in-ring work, his ability to help carry the most populous territory in the United States for five years, and a VERY successful comeback, Bob is an elite level wrestler.



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