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Let me lay out the scenario. Babyface is screwed in a 'loser leaves town' match and then returns a week or two later under a mask. Midnight Rider, Mr R, The Bullet, Dirty Yellow Dog, etc

Fun stuff?

But I hear a voice that says these angles damaged the credibility of wrestling as the promoter and on-air commissioners 'played dumb' to it all

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Sounds like a wrestling message board(s) - not this one -after a certain Crimson Mask (or a CM wannabe) bans everyone they can, knowing they will come back under a hood, thus expanding their registered users. Not fun stuff.

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I love the Mask Gimmick.
Dusty, Windham, Patterson, Bastein, etc etc

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JYD/Stagger Lee. They would occasionally throw a wrench into the story by having both in the same place at the same time.

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The Mr R thing worked when they had Brad Armstrong take over for Rich.

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The best were when some Announcer would speculate that Charlie Brown was Dusty Rhodes, or Giant Machine was Giant Baba. Even the most retarded wrestling fan would think the announcer was an even bigger dipshit for coming up with these ludicrous notions.

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I always enjoyed it especially for the announcer piece that Principal mentioned but then again I always liked the masked confusion gimmick the Bee’s had as well especially with SD Jones

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Benlen wrote: I love the Mask Gimmick.
Dusty, Windham, Patterson, Bastein, etc etc
The Flying Redhead was cool. I miss Red Bastein, a very nice man.

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Franchise wrote: I always enjoyed it especially for the announcer piece that Principal mentioned but then again I always liked the masked confusion gimmick the Bee’s had as well especially with SD Jones

I kind of remember them doing it with Koko BEE Ware.


Loved Koko coming in without the tag and the ref not being able to tell.

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Strangely, it's a gimmick that should work better now, because we're all in the secret now.

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Principal_Raditch wrote: The best were when some Announcer would speculate that Charlie Brown was Dusty Rhodes, or Giant Machine was Giant Baba. Even the most retarded wrestling fan would think the announcer was an even bigger dipshit for coming up with these ludicrous notions.I can't totally disagree with you, but at the same time, it was pretty obvious most babyface announcers were playing along because the man under the hood was a face.

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BuddyPSHayes wrote: JYD/Stagger Lee. They would occasionally throw a wrench into the story by having both in the same place at the same time.Ko Ko B. Ware was usually the other guy. Mid-South was so great from 1980-1986.

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Heenan Fan wrote: Sounds like a wrestling message board(s) - not this one -after a certain Crimson Mask (or a CM wannabe) bans everyone they can, knowing they will come back under a hood, thus expanding their registered users. Not fun stuff.

Here comes the fucking tears, again, from the board comedian-wannabe.   Stu’s Spatula probably liquored up, again, telling jokes in front of the mirror.   What a dumb ass.   Who cries and pouts for almost a year after getting your ass banned from a pro wrestling message board?  That is embarrassing. 


Get up on the table and try some more one-liners to get your attention fix, sad little boy. 

In every three or four posts on this board this sad, lonely soul attempts a funny one-liner so to reinforce himself that he is funny to some audience even an internet wrestling message board.   Just think of what type of warped person does that?   Sad or scary....take your pick? 
 

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It was last done by Hulk Hogan/Mr. America in 2003. It's been more than 15 years so I'd say they can do it again. As long as it's not over-exposed, I think this old gimmick is fine.

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I'll admit, I laughed when watching the Mid-Atlantic episode where Jimmy Valiant and "Charlie Brown" featured in a promo.

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srossi wrote: It was last done by Hulk Hogan/Mr. America in 2003. It's been more than 15 years so I'd say they can do it again. As long as it's not over-exposed, I think this old gimmick is fine.
That one had a strange ending to it. Just as it was getting going, Hulk Hogan got into a dispute with Vince McMahon over something and quit. I think his WM19 payoff was lower than he'd expected. So the WWE said that Stephanie McMahon, who was a babyface GM of Smackdown and had hired Mr. America while clearly in on the fact it was Hogan, was said to have discovered it was Hulk and then enforced his suspension. I don't think Hogan came back for something like two years after that and for a while was back on the list of people not to be mentioned on TV.

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I've always liked the "you know who it is" mask trick. It was usually a babyface who did it, so I just kinda' assumed that the pro-babyface announcers weren't dumb, but also in on the joke.

It's also kind of a legal loophole. "It says here someone named Dusty Rhodes can't wrestle... but what about someone named Midnight Rider?! Ha! Gotcha, there!"

Not really the same thing, but two awesome masks angles I can recall are Chris Adams as the "Avenger", circa 1983 against Jimmy Garvin. Then in 1998 when Dean Malenko entered a battle royal (and won) as "Ciclope". In both cases, the audience was (mostly) shocked when the guy un-masked.

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tamalie wrote: srossi wrote: It was last done by Hulk Hogan/Mr. America in 2003. It's been more than 15 years so I'd say they can do it again. As long as it's not over-exposed, I think this old gimmick is fine.
That one had a strange ending to it. Just as it was getting going, Hulk Hogan got into a dispute with Vince McMahon over something and quit. I think his WM19 payoff was lower than he'd expected. So the WWE said that Stephanie McMahon, who was a babyface GM of Smackdown and had hired Mr. America while clearly in on the fact it was Hogan, was said to have discovered it was Hulk and then enforced his suspension. I don't think Hogan came back for something like two years after that and for a while was back on the list of people not to be mentioned on TV.
 Storyline wise, the camera caught him lifting up the mask and doing the "shhhh don't tell anyone" motion to the crowd. I think it was Vince that actually went on TV and fired him after that.

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Dusty did it as Uvalde Slim or some dumb shit.


I sort of like it when they do it and at least try to pretend that they are a masked wrestler and not the banned wrestler. Uvalde tried to make it obvious that he was Dusty and would even lift the mask so the camera could get a little peek. It destroyed the credibility, because Solie and the "promotor/commish" couldn't logically say they didn't know who it was. At least with the Midnight Rider & others they could say, "We don't have proof."

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The Mr R switch with Tommy Rich and Brad Armstrong getting over on Ted Dibiase in Georgia is probably my favorite.

The Midnight Rider gimmick with Dusty was good - especially when the Midnight Rider beat Flair for the title but then had to relinquish the title since he refused to unmask in front of the NWA President (apparently masked champions were not allowed in the NWA).

However, the Midnight Rider gimmick also got stale when Dusty tried to recycle it years later against the Four Horsemen. Bill Watts was also using the Midnight Rider gimmick in Mid-South so it was difficult to determine who was actually under the mask when reading through the match results in the Apter mags.

For modern day, Edge and Christian as the Conquistadors was a good comedy bit

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