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This is one of the worst line ups in recent memory in my opinion. I have the Network, but there's no way I'm watching this live vs. NFL Sunday. And I can honestly say I don't think l will watch it at all.

* Seth Rollins (C) vs. Braun Strowman (WWE Universal Title)
* Kofi Kingston (C) vs. Randy Orton (WWE Title)
* Becky Lynch (C) vs. Sasha Banks (RAW Women's Title)
* Bayley (C) vs. Charlotte Flair (SmackDown Women's Title)
* Braun Strowman & Seth Rollins (C) vs. Robert Roode & Dolph Ziggler (RAW Tag-Team Titles)
* The New Day (C) vs. The Revival (SmackDown Tag-Team Titles)
* Shinsuke Nakamura (C) vs. The Miz (WWE Intercontinental Title)
* AJ Styles (C) vs. Cedric Alexander (WWE United States Title)
* Alexa Bliss & Nikki Cross (C) vs. Mandy Rose & Sonya Deville (WWE Women's Tag-Team Titles)
* Drew Gulak (C) vs. Humberto Carrillo (WWE Cruiserweight Title)
* Roman Reigns vs. Rowan (No Disqualification Match)

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That is too many title matches, it seems ridiculous that they have that many titles. I understand why they have so many but it just looks dumb to me to see it listed.


I’ll probably check out the cruiser, IC and Smackdown tag title match at some point but I don’t care about the rest.

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It doesn't look too bad to me. They always box themselves into corner with these gimmick PPVs. This is the night when every title is defended so... we get this.

The one that stands out to me is Strowman & Rollins vs Roode & Ziggler. No one cares about Roode or Ziggler, and they've just been thrown together.

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Why are Rollins and Strowman doing double duty?
They have too many damn sports entertainers to begin with and a couple of their homos have to double up.
And I realize it's Clash of the Champions but every match a championship match.
No need to wonder why I don't watch any more.

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How is this one of the worst cards ...

potential for good matches are allover this card and most of the matches have interesting storylines and this card has had a better build for most of the matches then in recent memory for a PPV

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krazykid18 wrote: How is this one of the worst cards ...

potential for good matches are allover this card and most of the matches have interesting storylines and this card has had a better build for most of the matches then in recent memory for a PPVThey are all "one of the worst cards" because WWE hasn't done much to make anybody interesting.  I look at the lineup - mind you, I haven't really watched much more than highlight clips over the last four years - and I see offhand five matches that I think would be fun to watch, and two of them are women.  I think both women title matches will be good, because neither Charlotte nor Becky have a bad match in them.  And I don't care if it's the billionth time they've fought, Kofi is the only guy other than Bray Wyatt in the past ten years to get ANY effort out of Randy Orton...it should be a great match.  And Shinsuke vs Miz has potential to be a lot of fun too.  And I don't think I've ever seen a dud match with AJ Styles in it so this should be no different.I agree with krazykid, this isn't one of the worst lineups.  It's not even really an awful gimmick, honestly.  What is better than a title match?

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I was speaking more from the fact that so few guys are over with me personally and the predictable outcomes than match quality. Obviously Miz has too win to tie and eventually break Jericho's record nine IC title reigns, Becky will obviously beat Sasha, Stroman never wins the big one, Roman over Rowan, Roode and Ziggler are glorified jobbers because of bad booking. They're getting a tag team title match on ppv? Who have they ever beaten before? Kofi and Orton are upper midcarders at best imo.

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I watched it on delay a bit drunk after a BBQ and fell asleep before the main event. I understand I might not have been all that focused, but what I saw seemed putrid. Way too many matches that were all very short until the end. The Styles-Alexander match was a complete squash and a total burial. The first match that had any length was Orton vs. Kingston and that bored me to tears. I really hated everything about this show.  I'll watch Rollins vs. Strowman tonight but I'm fairly confident that they aren't going to save this.

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I told my son he could stay up past his bed time to finish the show and he said that he would rather go to bed. He’s no Dave Meltzer but I guess on his star scale it was lacking.

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srossi wrote: I watched it on delay a bit drunk after a BBQ and fell asleep before the main event. I understand I might not have been all that focused, but what I saw seemed putrid. Way too many matches that were all very short until the end. The Styles-Alexander match was a complete squash and a total burial. The first match that had any length was Orton vs. Kingston and that bored me to tears. I really hated everything about this show.  I'll watch Rollins vs. Strowman tonight but I'm fairly confident that they aren't going to save this.
It blows my mind how WWE books fueds in 2019... like If Orton is shitting on Kofi's family and basically disrespecting Kofi and Kofi can't wait to get his hands on him....WHY DOES KOFI COME OUT THROWING FUCKING PANCAKES and then they wrestle a normal match with no intensity like who was the agent for this match 

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krazykid18 wrote: srossi wrote: I watched it on delay a bit drunk after a BBQ and fell asleep before the main event. I understand I might not have been all that focused, but what I saw seemed putrid. Way too many matches that were all very short until the end. The Styles-Alexander match was a complete squash and a total burial. The first match that had any length was Orton vs. Kingston and that bored me to tears. I really hated everything about this show.  I'll watch Rollins vs. Strowman tonight but I'm fairly confident that they aren't going to save this.
It blows my mind how WWE books fueds in 2019... like If Orton is shitting on Kofi's family and basically disrespecting Kofi and Kofi can't wait to get his hands on him....WHY DOES KOFI COME OUT THROWING FUCKING PANCAKES and then they wrestle a normal match with no intensity like who was the agent for this match 

This is very true and happens way too often. 

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krazykid18 wrote: srossi wrote: I watched it on delay a bit drunk after a BBQ and fell asleep before the main event. I understand I might not have been all that focused, but what I saw seemed putrid. Way too many matches that were all very short until the end. The Styles-Alexander match was a complete squash and a total burial. The first match that had any length was Orton vs. Kingston and that bored me to tears. I really hated everything about this show.  I'll watch Rollins vs. Strowman tonight but I'm fairly confident that they aren't going to save this.
It blows my mind how WWE books fueds in 2019... like If Orton is shitting on Kofi's family and basically disrespecting Kofi and Kofi can't wait to get his hands on him....WHY DOES KOFI COME OUT THROWING FUCKING PANCAKES and then they wrestle a normal match with no intensity like who was the agent for this match
Wow - once again, spot on.  Go back to the '80s, Dusty and Tully had wars, and when Dusty came out he didn't shake hands with the crowd or stop and pose, he looked straight at Tully, hit the ring, and attacked him.  Kofi is mega pissed at Orton, so to get over just how pissed he is, he throws pancakes?!?!?  It makes him look like a fucking idiot.  That was a match where he should have hit the ring, possibly from the crowd, with no music.  Come out while Orton is posing and just nail him from behind.  I guess us people that actually have money to pay WWE don't have the logic that they do, because we are too stupid to know better? 

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I guess I'm in the minority then, I thought the show was good overall. Some nice surprises with the title changes, Harper returning was a nice surprise. Overall I enjoyed the show

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One of Vince's bizarre rules at the moment is that everyone has to do their signature entrance no matter what. They can't sell any injuries or have a different demeanour than they would have normally. How he came up with that I can't understand, since he also thinks that wrestling is all about the baby face selling.

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Kriss wrote: One of Vince's bizarre rules at the moment is that everyone has to do their signature entrance no matter what. They can't sell any injuries or have a different demeanour than they would have normally. How he came up with that I can't understand, since he also thinks that wrestling is all about the baby face selling.
I'm sure it's because he wants the live audience to get the full experience of seeing the entrances that they're used to seeing.  Let's face it, at this point 90% of the pop comes from the entrance and not anything that happens during the match, or even the finish.  Of course this is because WWE trained the fans this way. 

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Superstar wrote: krazykid18 wrote: srossi wrote: I watched it on delay a bit drunk after a BBQ and fell asleep before the main event. I understand I might not have been all that focused, but what I saw seemed putrid. Way too many matches that were all very short until the end. The Styles-Alexander match was a complete squash and a total burial. The first match that had any length was Orton vs. Kingston and that bored me to tears. I really hated everything about this show.  I'll watch Rollins vs. Strowman tonight but I'm fairly confident that they aren't going to save this.
It blows my mind how WWE books fueds in 2019... like If Orton is shitting on Kofi's family and basically disrespecting Kofi and Kofi can't wait to get his hands on him....WHY DOES KOFI COME OUT THROWING FUCKING PANCAKES and then they wrestle a normal match with no intensity like who was the agent for this match
Wow - once again, spot on.  Go back to the '80s, Dusty and Tully had wars, and when Dusty came out he didn't shake hands with the crowd or stop and pose, he looked straight at Tully, hit the ring, and attacked him.  Kofi is mega pissed at Orton, so to get over just how pissed he is, he throws pancakes?!?!?  It makes him look like a fucking idiot.  That was a match where he should have hit the ring, possibly from the crowd, with no music.  Come out while Orton is posing and just nail him from behind.  I guess us people that actually have money to pay WWE don't have the logic that they do, because we are too stupid to know better? 


Ive never been a DDP fan but his through the crowd shit in WCW when he was battling the NWO was awesome as fuck. He looked like a damn maniac hitting the ring and looked like he was running for his life leaving it. 

That rule should be the opposite if someone was “injured” they should totally be selling it on the way to the ring. Perfect excuse for why they jobbed or how impressive they are for winning in spite of it. 



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Franchise wrote: That is too many title matches, it seems ridiculous that they have that many titles. I understand why they have so many but it just looks dumb to me to see it listed.


I’ll probably check out the cruiser, IC and Smackdown tag title match at some point but I don’t care about the rest.

Wow. Remember back in the day when the WWF only had three championships?


This reminds me of a NWA card from the mid-80s. Where's the National, Mid-Atlantic, and Western States Heritage titles??

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Growing up I always felt like the WWF needed another title because JCP had so many now I want the E to have less.


It wouldn’t be so bad in my opinion if the belts brought something different (real or perceived) to the table but essentially the world, universal, IC and US are all the same.



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