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 Posted: Sun Sep 29th, 2019 05:51 am
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From the Observer:

Rick Bognar, who had his most success under the name Big Tytan with FMW, where he was a main event star and one-time World Champion, passed away on September 20.

No cause of death was released. Bognar was 49 years old.

Bognar was also briefly the fake Razor Ramon, when the WWF tried to recreate Diesel & Razor Ramon using Glenn Jacobs (Kane) in the Diesel role in 1996.

Bognar was 6-foot-5, and in Japan, billed as 6-foot-7 and 300 pounds, with the bodybuilder look, long hair, and great flying ability. He was only 21 when he first started going to Japan, in 1991, and with his size and look, was expected to be one of the biggest stars in wrestling. The day before his 22nd birthday, he won FMW's main title, the World Martial Arts title, from legendary Atsushi Onita, although it was a short reign.
He frequently teamed with The Gladiator (Mike Alfonso aka Mike Awesome) in FMW.

Bognar never reached the expected heights. His in-ring never improved to where he was a big star in other groups, although he had shots in WAR, ECW, and WWF from 1995 to 1997. Paul Heyman was very high on him, noting he brought something to the table that they had never had up to that point, a big guy who could fly. But he didn't get over with the ECW audience. 
Bognar was brought into WWF to play the new Razor Ramon, as the company, which owned the name, thought they could just introduce new wrestlers as Razor Ramon & Diesel, which was far from one of their best ideas. When the gimmick flopped, Bognar was tainted. But it wasn't as if he was thriving and just had a bad gimmick. When his contract expired, he was released.

He went to New Japan as part of the NWO, but suffered a bad neck injury that ended his career there in 1999, although he did work for a Stampede Wrestling remake in 2000 and did occasional independent shows in the Calgary area as late as 2012.

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I read about Bognar's passing, for a second I though you meant Scott Hall.

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NJRob65 wrote: I read about Bognar's passing, for a second I though you meant Scott Hall.

While Hall may have been the original, Bognar was always my favourite. The second incarnation is often the best... Dick Sargent, Val Kilmer and the second Wariior all come to mind.

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 Posted: Sun Sep 29th, 2019 10:34 pm
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Kriss wrote: NJRob65 wrote: I read about Bognar's passing, for a second I though you meant Scott Hall.

While Hall may have been the original, Bognar was always my favourite. The second incarnation is often the best... Dick Sargent, Val Kilmer and the second Wariior all come to mind.
What about version #3, Razor Ramon Hard Gay

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Total dick move titling this RIP Razor Ramon, Kriss. This isn’t the Enquirer or TMZ.



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Superstar wrote: Total dick move titling this RIP Razor Ramon, Kriss. This isn’t the Enquirer or TMZ.The Enquirer and TMZ would of led off with RIP Scott Hall  threads.



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I saw him at an ECW show in Allentown Pa, where he was brought out as Slice and Dice Ramirez, a jab at the Razor Gimmick, which he would end up doing soon after anyways.

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When the fake Razor Ramon and fake Diesel gimmicks ran their course, Rick Bogner and Glen Jacobs took the gimmicks to AAA and then to Memphis during the course of 1997. Jacobs was recalled to the WWF that fall to become Kane. Bogner was never brought back and his career pretty much ended in any mainstream sense. Given his size and the fact that he'd been on TV during the Monday Night Wars, you'd think WCW would have wanted him or perhaps the WWF would have found a new gimmick for him just to keep him away from WCW. The piece from the Observer noted that on one hand his career was ended by a neck injury suffered in 1999 while working for New Japan, on the other hand he was wrestling for the revival of Stampede that Bruce Hart ran for a while and did some indies later on. It seems to me that he would have kept going despite the neck injury had a big paying WWF or WCW gig come up in that timeframe.

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tamalie wrote: When the fake Razor Ramon and fake Diesel gimmicks ran their course, Rick Bogner and Glen Jacobs took the gimmicks to AAA and then to Memphis during the course of 1997. Jacobs was recalled to the WWF that fall to become Kane. Bogner was never brought back and his career pretty much ended in any mainstream sense. Given his size and the fact that he'd been on TV during the Monday Night Wars, you'd think WCW would have wanted him or perhaps the WWF would have found a new gimmick for him just to keep him away from WCW. The piece from the Observer noted that on one hand his career was ended by a neck injury suffered in 1999 while working for New Japan, on the other hand he was wrestling for the revival of Stampede that Bruce Hart ran for a while and did some indies later on. It seems to me that he would have kept going despite the neck injury had a big paying WWF or WCW gig come up in that timeframe.
From 1998-2000, he was a very big part of NWO Japan as Big Titan. That’s actually far and away the most success he ever had, although almost all his matches were 6-man tags against the NJPW babyfaces. Although Hall and Nash toured NJPW occasionally as part of the NWO, I don’t believe Titan and Hall ever teamed. They were technically part of the same group though. 



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