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 Posted: Mon Oct 7th, 2019 03:15 am
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Jesus Christ this was bad and they killed Bray Wyatt's character in one night all that hype and a no holds barred match ends in  a DQ... 20 finishers in a row, weapons and all that...why book yourself into a corner like that and make matches that hurt both wrestlers


WHO BOOKS THIS SHIT

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Can you explain for us non-viewers? I get the part about it being a bad match but how did they kill off Bray? I for one think Rollins is the drizzling shits in the ring and a complete channel changer when he has a mic.



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The crowd revolted for the last 15 minutes of that show like I haven’t heard in years. Huge “AEW” and “Restart the Match” chants. The whole match couldn’t be seen anyway because of the red light. Just awful in every imaginable way.



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That was absolute trash.

God bless that crowd. Where was this PPV at?

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Over booked. Think 2000 WCW, but worse.


Superstar wrote: Can you explain for us non-viewers? I get the part about it being a bad match but how did they kill off Bray? I for one think Rollins is the drizzling shits in the ring and a complete channel changer when he has a mic.

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KK is right, they booked themselves into a corner where Wyatt couldn’t win the title but also couldn’t lose the match, and it was HIAC so there had to be a clean winner. Except they decided there didn’t have to be for no logical reason. In the match where Foley almost died and they still had a finish, Wyatt has to have the match stopped because he gets some gimmicks piled on him. Just awful. Between this and Smackdown I feel like they’re giving AEW another million viewers this week.



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Superstar wrote: Can you explain for us non-viewers? I get the part about it being a bad match but how did they kill off Bray? I for one think Rollins is the drizzling shits in the ring and a complete channel changer when he has a mic.

This match only had two endings that would make sense since they booked themselves into a corner for no reason..Bray Wyatt destroys Seth and becomes universal champion or Undertaker comes out and him and The Fiend brawl setting up a match at Super Showdown 3 or 4 or Survivor Series...

What we got was a overbooked, just absurdly comical match with the Fiend taking 20 finishers in a row, laid out cold, weapons upon weapons being thrown on him Seth getting the sledgehammer with weapons on an outcold Fiend and the ref giving pep a talk like no don't do it and then Seth proceeds to hit him with the sledgehammer and  ref stops and calls for the bell in Hell in a Cell match .... and then the EMT's and them come out and Fiend then attacks Seth and mandible claw to get his hear back....all that with the fans shitting on the last 10 mins of this match when the overbooking became unbearable to watch

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=11664&v=bOov_WJrFk8
lol@ having to defend the decision

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Love Waltman on that.



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I felt like I was watching that match on the Nintento VirtualBoy. They have done this weird lighting thing with Kane and Sin Cara in the past, and it never lasts, because it looks shit.

Wrestling has evolved. This was a match that looked about 25 years old, but was paced in slow-motion.

Seth Rollins has moved into Randy Orton territory for me. Hard to fault him technically, but he doesn't look like he "gets" pro-wrestling. I understand why Vince likes him.

If I ran a wrestling company, I would make it a sackable offence to be wandering around every side of the ring, searching underneath for the right piece of plunder. You're a fucking professional, you can plan this stuff in advance.

There will be people at USA and FOX that think they have wasted a lot of money to buy half the WWE, and this will prove their point. I think the only positive for WWE is that this was only on the network.

We all KNEW they had to come up with a fuck finish, so we can't complain too much about it. The crowd shit on it hard, though. That might be the worst sustained crowd reaction I have ever heard.

The end of the show with the blood was straight out of a no-budget C-grade horror movie. As hokey as any Broken Universe stuff, and a lot less entertaining. I can't imagine the process that ended up with this on our screens.

Clearly this is all a plot by Vince McMahon. Vince is behind AEW, obviously. This is his master plan to defeat NXT and punish Triple H for making him look bad.

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Now that initial reaction is gone, sources say Vince wanted to book it like a horror movie so i can guess i sort of see his vision and how it played out but WWE and booking over the long haul has been a problem in the las ten years so we will see

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krazykid18 wrote: Now that initial reaction is gone, sources say Vince wanted to book it like a horror movie so i can guess i sort of see his vision and how it played out but WWE and booking over the long haul has been a problem in the las ten years so we will seeWhat you just wrote sounds so ridiculously far fetched that I think it's spot on when it comes to Vince.  He can't even book a horror movie correctly. 

I like Bray Wyatt, every character he's tried has gotten over, and I think it's because the fans legit like how creative he is when it comes to his character.  When I saw that first fun house promo, I just shit all over it because I thought that Vince had gone totally off the rails.  But as a few weeks went by, you could see that the idea was that Bray is a total psychopath and it all made sense.  But now?  I have to think that Bray was not involved at all in that booking.  I felt that Bray needed to go over here, and then if you don't want the belt on him long term, you figure out a way to take it off of him - like you said earlier, have 'Taker provide the ultimate distraction and Bray gets schoolboyed for a quick 3 count and didn't even see it coming.  It would set up a Taker match somewhere, probably not 'Mania because I would think that 'Taker would be putting Bray over and they don't want to completely ruin his WM legacy by jobbing him three times in his last four matches there.



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I am pretty much out of the loop, but I have to say that with Smackdown and this it seems that AEW couldn`t have asked for better help by Titan. Okay, maybe with similar stuff on RAW/NXT :D



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I've ranted about it in greater detail elsewhere, but to sum it up, if you're going to go in the direction of having a non-finish to a match like Bray vs. Seth in the cell, you need fans who are conditioned to going with the promotion and who want to like what they're getting. WWE fans are so disgruntled right now that they're conditioned to hating the WWE and instead of being willing to go with the promotion on things like this, instead view it with skepticism or outright contempt. That the match was bad leading up to the finish and fans disliked the red cell and lighting only adds to the problem.

With that in mind, let’s remember that the first HIAC match between Shawn Michaels and Undertaker on 10/5/97 saw the wrestlers spend an extended part of the match outside the cage (set up by a local indy wrestler working as a camera man take a bump for Shawn to necessitate opening the door), featured outside interference (Kane debuted and got involved), and a screw job finish (Kane tombstoned Taker for a clearly beaten HBK to steal the win) while red light bathed the arena while Kane was present and saw his exploding ring posts gimmick debut, all while fans had been repeatedly told ahead of time that no one could get out of the cage and no one could interfere.

Was there mass outrage and complaining, with fans vowing to watch Nitro the following night and never order a WWF PPV again? To the contrary, by and large the fans loved the match and finish. Screw job or not, the match was good enough, Shawn and Taker were over enough, and fans were so thrilled to finally see Kane that the finish being screwy didn’t matter. The complaints were few if any because the fans were conditioned to going where the WWF wanted them to go and wanted to like what they saw. Until the WWE gets guys over to their potential and gives the fans stories, wrestlers, and action they want to see, unrest over things like last night will continue to occur.

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The big difference between the first Cell and today is the internet. You can only have one of two opinions today: unconditional love or unrepentant disdain. Anyone in between just doesn't care enough.

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