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2019 WWE Draft


Raw


1)    Brock Lesnar
2)    Seth Rollins
3)    AJ Styles
4)    Kevin Owens
5)    Randy Orton
6)    Rey Mysterio
7)    Drew McIntyre
8)    Aleister Black
9)    Bobby Lashley
10)  Rusev
11)  Samoa Joe
12)  Ricochet
13)  Andrade (w/Zelina Vega)
14)  Erick Rowan
15)  R-Truth
16)  Jinder Mahal
17)  Buddy Murphy
18)  Cedric Alexander
19)  EC3
20)  Titus O’Neil
21)  Shelton Benjamin
22)  Eric Young
23)  Sin Cara
24)  Akira Tozawa
25)  Humberto Carrillo
26)  No Way Jose
27)  Mojo Rawley

 


Raw Tag Teams


1)    Viking Raiders
2)    The “O.C.”
3)    Street Profits
4)    Ryder/Hawkins
5)    Authors of Pain
6)    The Usos
7)    Ascension
  


Women


1)    Becky Lynch
2)    Charlotte Flair
3)    Natalya
4)    Liv Morgan
5)    Asuka (Kabuki Warriors)
6)    Kairi Sane (Kabuki Warriors)
7)    Peyton Royce (Illconics)
8)    Billie Kay (Illconics)
9)    Sarah Logan








Smackdown


1)    “The Fiend” Bray Wyatt
2)    Roman Reigns
3)    Daniel Bryan
4)    Braun Strowman
5)    King Corbin
6)    The Miz
7)    Nakamura (w/Sami Zayn)
8)    “Shorty G” Chad Gable
9)    Elias
10)  Ali
11)  Cesaro
12)  Drew Gulak
13)  Apollo Crews
14)  Heath Slater
15)  Luke Harper
16)  Drake Maverick
 


Smackdown Tag Teams



1)    The New Day
2)    The Revival
3)    Roode/Ziggler
4)    Heavy Machinery
5)    Lucha House Party
6)    B-Team
7)    The Colons

 


Women


1)    Bayley
2)    Sasha Banks
3)    Lacey Evans
4)    Carmella
5)    Tamina
6)    Alexa Bliss
7)    Nikki Cross
8)    Sonya Deville (Fire & Desire)
9)    Mandy Rose (Fire & Desire)
10)  Dana Brooke






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A lot of people missing, they said they are all "free agents."  I found the draft pick order to be laughable at times.  For starters, I'm under the assumption the Usos are going to Raw.



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Also, I'm not sure why they put the belt on Brock over on Smackdown.  Like others have said, his new feud doesn't seem to need it.  I don't see a lot of people on that list for him to work with.  He's already beaten everyone that they've allowed into the main event scene other than Bray Wyatt.




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I don’t even understand what I saw on the draft. I didn’t know who was on the brands before they were drafted since they all crossed over, so I didn’t care. I didn’t know who was eligible on each show and why there were two different draft pools. I didn’t get why Stephanie would announce 5 picks at once but when they cut away to the draft room they were pretending to be drafting 1 at a time. I just didn’t get any of it. Awful, miserable shit.

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srossi wrote: I don’t even understand what I saw on the draft. I didn’t know who was on the brands before they were drafted since they all crossed over, so I didn’t care. I didn’t know who was eligible on each show and why there were two different draft pools. I didn’t get why Stephanie would announce 5 picks at once but when they cut away to the draft room they were pretending to be drafting 1 at a time. I just didn’t get any of it. Awful, miserable shit.
All good points as none of that was explained.  It's as if they want to have a draft to be more like a sport, but their writers only know soap operas and apparently nothing about legit sports that have a draft.  This could have been really cool if they actually did things that are logical.

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Missing initially:
 
Ember Moon
Naomi
Ruby Riott
Sarah Logan
Sonya Deville
Mandy Rose
Dana Brooke
Illconics
 
 
Authors of Pain
The Usos
Zack Ryder/Curt Hawkins
The Signh Brothers
The Ascension
 
Cesaro
Luke Harper
Drake Maverick
Matt Hardy
Mojo Rawley
No Way Jose    



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Sami Zayn was drafted with Nakamura as his manager.

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Kriss wrote: Sami Zayn was drafted with Nakamura as his manager.
Fixed, thanks.

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They originally said injured stars were not eligible. Then Samoa Joe and Elias were drafted, but low.

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For the most part I hate the network original programming but they should have built weeks of programming around the draft. Talent profiles, mock drafts, work out videos, nonstop endless and pointless chatter just like any other draft. Then again used the network to detail and dissect each pick and what potential match ups look like on the horizon. Talk about possible trades “Fox and Smackdown really wanted so and so but USA and Raw got them” that kind of shit so on and so on. Play up what round each person was picked like Tom Brady being selected after a bunch of other quarter backs and now he has something to prove. I mean really all they had to do was watch 3 or 4 real drafts to get some context and then just copy.

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Franchise wrote: For the most part I hate the network original programming but they should have built weeks of programming around the draft. Talent profiles, mock drafts, work out videos, nonstop endless and pointless chatter just like any other draft. Then again used the network to detail and dissect each pick and what potential match ups look like on the horizon. Talk about possible trades “Fox and Smackdown really wanted so and so but USA and Raw got them” that kind of shit so on and so on. Play up what round each person was picked like Tom Brady being selected after a bunch of other quarter backs and now he has something to prove. I mean really all they had to do was watch 3 or 4 real drafts to get some context and then just copy.
I wouldn't have watched a fucking second of that. 

I did get a kick out the Raw announcers just saying "That's a great pick" after every single selection.  Literally used those exact words almost every single time.  They had absolutely nothing to say.  What can you say though when the draft order is so bizarre and random?

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I wouldn’t have watched it either but at least all of their programming would have made sense and they could have built out the draft instead of it looking like a disaster.




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Franchise wrote: I wouldn’t have watched it either but at least all of their programming would have made sense and they could have built out the draft instead of it looking like a disaster.





9 and 10 year old kids who are new to the wrestling business probably would have ate that up.  As least there would have been some effort at continuity. 

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Alexa Bliss and Nikki Cross are apparently still considered a unit.  They are now on Smackdown according to Triple H.  Maybe they realized Smackdown only drafted 5 women as opposed to Raw's 8.  This stuff didn't look too well thought out.



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Once the current program with Cain Velasquez is over, will FOX want WWE to keep the belt on Brock?  Who will he work with on that roster?  He already beat all of these guys:
 
Kofi Kingston
Seth Rollins
Finn Balor
Daniel Bryan
Roman Reigns
Braun Strowman
John Cena
AJ Styles
Randy Orton
Undertaker
Triple H
Dean Ambrose
Samoa Joe
Goldberg
Kane
Big Show
CM Punk
Luke Harper


I just don't know what they do with him as champion at this point.



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Boz1515 wrote: Alexa Bliss and Nikki Cross are apparently still considered a unit.  They are now on Smackdown according to Triple H.  Maybe they realized Smackdown only drafted 5 women as opposed to Raw's 8.  This stuff didn't look too well thought out.




I love how HHH announced that Bliss and Cross were traded for “future considerations” to make it sound like a real sport without realizing that only jobbers get traded for future considerations. Why couldn’t they be bothered make a real trade?

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Boz1515 wrote: Franchise wrote: I wouldn’t have watched it either but at least all of their programming would have made sense and they could have built out the draft instead of it looking like a disaster.





9 and 10 year old kids who are new to the wrestling business probably would have ate that up.  As least there would have been some effort at continuity. 

That’s what I was getting at; I think the E having a draft is dumb to begin with because as already shown they aren’t sticking with it and ultimately everyone belongs to one organization not to mention they just “fight” within that organization. I don’t follow MMA but I doubt the UFC Brings a fighter back with a different gimmick if they don’t get over the first time. 

The fact that they forgot or failed to draft certain people was dumb as well they know who they have under contract. Make a list and split it or don’t they would probably be better off just having titles brand specific and letting the talent move back and forth depending on the ratings. It’s not like Fox or USA is going to have any long term loyalty to a wrestler of the show isn’t drawing. I feel like the E is getting close to bringing back the team challenge series or airing a new version of family feud. 


All of this reminds me of early turner WCW/NWA; they forgot they even had the iron sheik under contract and it renewed. Flair told a story on his podcast once where he said a turner exec said “I know how to improve ratings; let’s have Flair v Sting next week”. Granted it’s all name matches now but hot shoting everything isnt the answer; recycling tired matches isn’t the answer either nor is an artificial split. I lost faith in the main roster a long time ago but when the Nakamura v Styles program fell apart I was done not the mention the Styles v Joe series sucking. 

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srossi wrote: Boz1515 wrote: Alexa Bliss and Nikki Cross are apparently still considered a unit.  They are now on Smackdown according to Triple H.  Maybe they realized Smackdown only drafted 5 women as opposed to Raw's 8.  This stuff didn't look too well thought out.




I love how HHH announced that Bliss and Cross were traded for “future considerations” to make it sound like a real sport without realizing that only jobbers get traded for future considerations. Why couldn’t they be bothered make a real trade?


What does Raw have control over that they can give? Does NXT belong to Raw and NXT UK to Smackdown? Or are they going to give them a bag of turnbuckle pads and a used canvas? 

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Franchise wrote: srossi wrote: Boz1515 wrote: Alexa Bliss and Nikki Cross are apparently still considered a unit.  They are now on Smackdown according to Triple H.  Maybe they realized Smackdown only drafted 5 women as opposed to Raw's 8.  This stuff didn't look too well thought out.




I love how HHH announced that Bliss and Cross were traded for “future considerations” to make it sound like a real sport without realizing that only jobbers get traded for future considerations. Why couldn’t they be bothered make a real trade?


What does Raw have control over that they can give? Does NXT belong to Raw and NXT UK to Smackdown? Or are they going to give them a bag of turnbuckle pads and a used canvas? 

They already hot-shotted Finn Balor to NXT for the debut of USA when that should’ve been saved for a draft trade, but WWE doesn’t reside in a world of logic. They undermine their own angles, and I bet this draft is meaningless within a month just like the Superstar Shakeup was that they JUST had in May. 

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srossi wrote: Franchise wrote: srossi wrote: Boz1515 wrote: Alexa Bliss and Nikki Cross are apparently still considered a unit.  They are now on Smackdown according to Triple H.  Maybe they realized Smackdown only drafted 5 women as opposed to Raw's 8.  This stuff didn't look too well thought out.




I love how HHH announced that Bliss and Cross were traded for “future considerations” to make it sound like a real sport without realizing that only jobbers get traded for future considerations. Why couldn’t they be bothered make a real trade?


What does Raw have control over that they can give? Does NXT belong to Raw and NXT UK to Smackdown? Or are they going to give them a bag of turnbuckle pads and a used canvas? 

They already hot-shotted Finn Balor to NXT for the debut of USA when that should’ve been saved for a draft trade, but WWE doesn’t reside in a world of logic. They undermine their own angles, and I bet this draft is meaningless within a month just like the Superstar Shakeup was that they JUST had in May. 


On Monday, they were making a huge deal about guys being on different brands, and we may never see them wrestle again. Then they announced Rollins vs The Fiend for Crown Jewell. Two wrestlers from different brands. And we're only a few weeks away from Survivor Series, the only night of the year when Raw and SmackDowm superstars face off. The only thing for certain is that EC3 will be exclusive to Main Event. 

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Raw only has 3 tag teams.  I wonder when they will realize/address that lol?

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Kriss wrote:

On Monday, they were making a huge deal about guys being on different brands, and we may never see them wrestle again. Then they announced Rollins vs The Fiend for Crown Jewell. Two wrestlers from different brands. And we're only a few weeks away from Survivor Series, the only night of the year when Raw and SmackDowm superstars face off. The only thing for certain is that EC3 will be exclusive to Main Event. Now, if they actually had a plan, this is something that could make for an interesting storyline.  Smackdown signed up Lesnar.  If the Fiend beats Rollins for the title, Smackdown has both world champs. 

Which could lead to, well, any number of storylines; Raw picking on Rollins for losing their crown jewel at Crown Jewel, Wyatt bringing the title to Raw as if he didn't know who the Fiend was, a Raw invasion to get the title back...

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Luke Harper went undrafted to Smackdown this morning, so he and Rowan have been broken up again. I doubt you’ll see him anywhere though.

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Which could lead to, well, any number of storylines; Raw picking on Rollins for losing their crown jewel at Crown Jewel, Wyatt bringing the title to Raw as if he didn't know who the Fiend was, a Raw invasion to get the title back...


All of those suggestions would be far better than what we have been seeing on tv, I'd be interested in each of those. 

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srossi wrote: Luke Harper went undrafted to Smackdown this morning, so he and Rowan have been broken up again. I doubt you’ll see him anywhere though.He's another guy I feel like they've wasted for the most part.

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On this morning's episode of WWEs The Bump on the WWE Network, the following talents were announced as being drafted:

MONDAY NIGHT RAW:

No Way Jose.

Mojo Rawley.

Zack Ryder.

Curt Hawkins.

The IIconics.

Sarah Logan.

FRIDAY NIGHT SMACKDOWN:

Luke Harper.

Cesaro.

Drake Maverick.

Sonya Deville.

Mandy Rose.

Dana Brooke.

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bpickering wrote: On this morning's episode of WWEs The Bump on the WWE Network, the following talents were announced as being drafted:


Thanks, updated those.
 
Still missing these Tag Teams:

Authors of Pain
The Usos
The Singh Brothers
The Ascension

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What the fuck is "The Bump"?

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Kriss wrote: What the fuck is "The Bump"?
One of 16 new WWE shows that no one would ever watch. Instead of being content machines, it would be great if they could make a 2-hour Smackdown coherent and watchable. 

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This is what I’m talking about; why not have

Round 1 on smackdown
Round 2 on raw
Round 3 on the network after raw
Round 4-7 or whatever on the network

Have a stat sheet of picks per round, time between picks, have a draft board with selected talent and another draft board with available talent.

Seriously all they had to do was hire one person who has watched a pro sports draft one time and they could have done a better job.

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Franchise wrote: This is what I’m talking about; why not have

Round 1 on smackdown
Round 2 on raw
Round 3 on the network after raw
Round 4-7 or whatever on the network

Have a stat sheet of picks per round, time between picks, have a draft board with selected talent and another draft board with available talent.

Seriously all they had to do was hire one person who has watched a pro sports draft one time and they could have done a better job.


Yeah, and make it at least somewhat realistic.  Some guy named Humberto Carrillo was drafted before The Miz, who has his own show on USA.  How is that possible?  He was also drafted before guys like Samoa Joe, etc.  They need to drug test the writers. 

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Boz1515 wrote: Franchise wrote: This is what I’m talking about; why not have

Round 1 on smackdown
Round 2 on raw
Round 3 on the network after raw
Round 4-7 or whatever on the network

Have a stat sheet of picks per round, time between picks, have a draft board with selected talent and another draft board with available talent.

Seriously all they had to do was hire one person who has watched a pro sports draft one time and they could have done a better job.


Yeah, and make it at least somewhat realistic.  Some guy named Humberto Carrillo was drafted before The Miz, who has his own show on USA.  How is that possible?  He was also drafted before guys like Samoa Joe, etc.  They need to drug test the writers. 


They think they’re getting unknown over. I get it. They’re 100% wrong, but I get it. If the announcers could follow up one of these surprise picks by saying anything other than, “That’s another great pick” before the next one is rattled off seconds later, then maybe it would resonate a bit more. 

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srossi wrote: Kriss wrote: What the fuck is "The Bump"?
One of 16 new WWE shows that no one would ever watch. Instead of being content machines, it would be great if they could make a 2-hour Smackdown coherent and watchable. 


What is the content? I think I read more wrestling than is healthy, and I have never heard of this.

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Kriss wrote: srossi wrote: Kriss wrote: What the fuck is "The Bump"?
One of 16 new WWE shows that no one would ever watch. Instead of being content machines, it would be great if they could make a 2-hour Smackdown coherent and watchable. 


What is the content? I think I read more wrestling than is healthy, and I have never heard of this.

Watched 5 minutes of 1 episode.  It's a daily morning talk show with super annoying employees from WWE.com and special guests.  There's only so much you can talk about this garbage in a mostly kayfabe way, especially if you're never going to criticize.  WWE seems to have 100 hours of talk shows on now dissecting 5 hours of wrestling that makes no sense.

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Unless they're looking to appease FOX & USA with a hard roster split so they can claim exclusivity, these drafts mean nothing. The current fanbase is apathetic & new viewers have no clue who 90% of these people are. They don't even try to explain or showcase any of them or help to engage. Personally I think they've already lost the initiative straight out the gate

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Last night on MizTV, Sasha Banks ripped Miz for being drafted so low.

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Drew Gulak was drafted to SD and immediately was squashed by Strowman. I just completely give up. He’s one of the best talents in the company and was on fire, and now he’s done.

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srossi wrote: Drew Gulak was drafted to SD and immediately was squashed by Strowman. I just completely give up. He’s one of the best talents in the company and was on fire, and now he’s done.
I saw that.  Just awful.  What a waste.

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Authors of Pain headed to Raw.

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Still Missing:
 
Matt Hardy
 
Ember Moon
Ruby Riott
Naomi
 
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The Singh Brothers
The Ascension





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Boz1515 wrote: Still Missing:
 
Matt Hardy
 
Ember Moon
Ruby Riott
Naomi
 
The Usos
The Singh Brothers
The Ascension

Meltzer says that Naomi and The Usos were sent home because “Creative has nothing for them”, but they’re not happy with a lot of the legal issues and other drama involving them. 

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Now that Brock is on Raw, the Smackdown landscape looks different.  The tag division is back to having the New Day with the belts, which is more of the same from previous years.  It will be interesting to see how the ratings respond to all of that.

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Boz1515 wrote: Now that Brock is on Raw, the Smackdown landscape looks different.  The tag division is back to having the New Day with the belts, which is more of the same from previous years.  It will be interesting to see how the ratings respond to all of that.

How unimaginative to go back to The New Day as tag champs again. Does nothing for anyone. 

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Smackdown is officially shitty again. Sigh.

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Rosters updated again via WWE.com.  They placed the Usos and Ascension on the Raw roster, and the Colons on Smackdown.  Not sure any of them will participate at Survivor Series, but we'll see.  The Singh Brothers aren't listed on either page, even though one of them is holding the 24/7 Title lol.

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Boz1515 wrote: Rosters updated again via WWE.com.  They placed the Usos and Ascension on the Raw roster, and the Colons on Smackdown.  Not sure any of them will participate at Survivor Series, but we'll see.  The Singh Brothers aren't listed on either page, even though one of them is holding the 24/7 Title lol.

Like it matters what roster the Adencion and the Colons are on. Would be more apropos to put their faces on milk cartons.

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Kriss wrote: Boz1515 wrote: Rosters updated again via WWE.com.  They placed the Usos and Ascension on the Raw roster, and the Colons on Smackdown.  Not sure any of them will participate at Survivor Series, but we'll see.  The Singh Brothers aren't listed on either page, even though one of them is holding the 24/7 Title lol.

Like it matters what roster the Ascension and the Colons are on. Would be more apropos to put their faces on milk cartons.

LOL I don't disagree at all, but if they would have put the Smackdown belts on the Colons instead of the New Day again I would at least watch to see what happens next.  The other scenario is played out.


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Kriss wrote: Boz1515 wrote: Rosters updated again via WWE.com.  They placed the Usos and Ascension on the Raw roster, and the Colons on Smackdown.  Not sure any of them will participate at Survivor Series, but we'll see.  The Singh Brothers aren't listed on either page, even though one of them is holding the 24/7 Title lol.

Like it matters what roster the Adencion and the Colons are on. Would be more apropos to put their faces on milk cartons.

Meltzer says the Colons are already done with WWE and it just hasn’t been announced yet. They haven’t wrestled for WWE since February and there’s no plans to bring them back. 

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srossi wrote: Kriss wrote: Boz1515 wrote: Rosters updated again via WWE.com.  They placed the Usos and Ascension on the Raw roster, and the Colons on Smackdown.  Not sure any of them will participate at Survivor Series, but we'll see.  The Singh Brothers aren't listed on either page, even though one of them is holding the 24/7 Title lol.

Like it matters what roster the Adencion and the Colons are on. Would be more apropos to put their faces on milk cartons.

Meltzer says the Colons are already done with WWE and it just hasn’t been announced yet. They haven’t wrestled for WWE since February and there’s no plans to bring them back. 

Raw Tag Teams


1)    Viking Raiders
2)    The “O.C.”
3)    Street Profits
4)    Ryder/Hawkins
5)    Authors of Pain
6)    The Usos
7)    Ascension
 
 
Smackdown Tag Teams


1)    The New Day
2)    The Revival
3)    Roode/Ziggler
4)    Heavy Machinery
5)    Lucha House Party
6)    B-Team
7)    The Colons
 
 
That is a shame.  If memory serves me correctly, the only teams on these lists to not hold the Tag Titles on Raw or Smackdown are:
 
-       Street Profits (Raw)
-       Ascension (Raw)
-       Heavy Machinery (Smackdown)
-       Lucha House Party (Smackdown)
 
I don’t think the Colons have held them in like 8-9 years, so that would have been at least somewhat fresh.


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They should have a Puerto Ricano midget tag team and call them The Semi Colons. Arf.

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kargol wrote: They should have a Puerto Ricano midget tag team and call them The Semi Colons. Arf.

A semi-colon is bigger than a colon.



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