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 Posted: Mon Nov 25th, 2019 10:07 pm
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Angelic Assassin wrote: WongLee wrote: Principal_Raditch wrote: That's hella cool. Who puts these out and what year? I don't think I've ever heard of boxing cards.

Pretty sure it's Topps Ringside I think they called them. 1951.
Damn cool card would have been something to get into those.

LoL,  Radditch beat me to it.  Some really great stuff there.



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Ok so correct me if I'm wrong. You're sitting on some TRUE collectables with those amirite?



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 Posted: Mon Nov 25th, 2019 10:59 pm
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Some are worth a fair bit. The Graziano anywhere from 15to 20k. Most of my cards are $20 to $100. My Joe Louis is @ $750 to 1k. I posted a few pics on  my FB page

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The PSA thing will make it tough. You can find normal "team sets" of any team, but a "PSA Team Set" may be a rare listing.

Stuff from (roughly) 1983-2003 is basically worthless. As in, it will probably not increase in value in your lifetime.

Topps took over as the sole producer of officially licensed MLB cards, circa 2007. One or two other companies try to make cards, but they don't have the MLB license, and all logos and team names are Photoshopped out. I think it's Panini, who does this with their crappy "Donruss" line.

For modern cards, go with plain Topps-- their standard set. You can skip "Topps Heritage", "Bowman" and their other "premium" lines.

The only "premium" Topps cards I'd recommend would be "Topps NOW". They sell these on their website, daily, and they're only available for (about) 24 hours. They release about 3-5 a day, highlighting when somebody does something cool. As a fan, they're fun to get. They're printed to order, so a production run for a Pirates card may be about 400, but production for a Yankees card would be about 5,000. Topps NOW PSA cards are available on the after-market.

What's kept the market afloat --and dealers still buying tons of boxes--- are relic cards (part of a jersey or bat) and autographed cards. Buy a whole box of cards and you might get 2 or 3 of these. They're usually stamped with an official MLB hologram. They're cool n' all... but it's probably easier to buy them afterwards.



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Great post Erick. As I stated, I think I'm just going to do the Mets and only the Mets. It's probably a little better on my sanity and pocketbook that way.



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Your biggest challenges outside of Seaver and Ryan in PSA 7 will be anything from 1962, 1963, 1968, and 1971. 62 and 68 have wood grain borders, 63 has a bright color bottom border, and 1971 is all black border. Forgetting how poorly centered the cards could be straight from the pack, anytime you have cards with a non-white border you end up with LOTS of chipping. The only real exception to this rule is 1975, where the full color borders just seemed to stay put. The good thing is that you chose PSA 7, which is Near Mint. The difference in price from 7 to 8 can be insane, and honestly a lot of the common cards from the ‘60s graded 7 can be had for under $10. Some years, the high number cards can be a real cunt to find in any condition. An example you’ll need to know is 1966 Choo Choo Coleman. Where you can find a 1966 PSA 7 Ed Kranepool for between $10-$15, you’ll be looking at a good $175+ for Coleman.

Also, don’t listen to anybody that’s says the card market is dead and the bottom dropped out, etc. Basically if it’s 1972 or older, it’s still an easy sell and if you put money into it you won’t lose what you put in. From 1973 until now, I can’t honestly say that. But with all of that said, I’m 48 and you are a little older - and we are the last generation that gives a fuck about sports cards. I’ve seen the reports on TV and in print, but it resonated with me by looking at my kids. They are now 20 and 18, and neither gave a shit about sports cards even when they were young...they collected because I did. And while I never knew ALL of their friends, I met at least 20 friends between the two of them, and none collected cards at all. So if you are doing this to enjoy them, that’s cool. In your lifetime, as I said, you should be able to sell anything from 1962-1972 and not lose money. But my belief is that in 25 years it’ll be all over as far as cards go. Just look at how shitty it got in the last 25 years.



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Collect em as raw ungraded cards, I bet if you check the psa population report odds are not good too many pat zacharys even got graded, so nstead of dropping 25 cents your dropping 25 bucks

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I recently got back into cards about a month ago. I found several boxes of cards in my parents house from the mid 90s which are pretty much worthless. However, I found a cool site where I can trade them and have been having fun with that. I have successfully traded some of that mid 90s stuff for late 70s and mid 80s cards that I wanted.

Example - I traded a run of 10 or so 1995 Ultra baseball commons for 3 1985 Topps Bill Bates RCs. I know they are practically worthless in the trading market, but he was one of my favorite players growing up.

It is not an investment for me, just have fun looking at the old cards and sharing them with my pops.

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brodiescomics wrote: I recently got back into cards about a month ago. I found several boxes of cards in my parents house from the mid 90s which are pretty much worthless. However, I found a cool site where I can trade them and have been having fun with that. I have successfully traded some of that mid 90s stuff for late 70s and mid 80s cards that I wanted.

Example - I traded a run of 10 or so 1995 Ultra baseball commons for 3 1985 Topps Bill Bates RCs. I know they are practically worthless in the trading market, but he was one of my favorite players growing up.

It is not an investment for me, just have fun looking at the old cards and sharing them with my pops.

https://www.tradingcarddb.com


I moved not long ago and took a minute to look at some of my cards that I purchased during my youth. I think I cornered the market on Tom Rathman, Brian Bosworth, Gary Plumber and Ronnie Lott cards. 



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The 1971 Topps are my all time favorites. As Superstar mentioned, they could be a challenge to collect due to the black background. It's the same background that makes the card so unique and pleasing to the eye.

Thanks for all the great posts and advice guys. It's the Beej Board that will truly MAGA.



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For modern cards, I really liked the 2004, 2007 and 2016 basic Topps designs. The 2015 design is fun. Reminds me of the 1976 and 1972 designs with its rainbow colors.

2007 is a simplistic design (reminiscent of 1971), but it's the year that brought me back in to card collecting and Topps. There was a deliberate "error" card with George W. Bush on a Derek Jeter card that was hot for awhile. I made my own custom set of Wedding Party cards based off the 2007 design. Got 'em printed professionally, even.

For PSA and their comic book counterparts of CGC... in some cases I feel like it's the equivalent of stapling $20, $50 or $100 bills to the item. You pay a certain amount to get it certified and...voila... your item has increased in value by that same amount! The grading and certification makes sense for key cards or issues, but it doesn't really work for random "collection filler" stuff.

I have 9-car binders, in chronological order, of each MLB and NFL team from 1952 to current. Usually about 2-3 teams in each binder. They're FAR from complete, but it's a way to bring order to all the random cards I have. Have a lump of stuff from the mid-50's (my dad), the mid-70's (big bro), then me (1989 to current).

I've always focused on filling in my Pirates and Broncos cards. The end result is a fun "scrapbook" of my team, over the years. I have my Roberto Clementes and John Elways right in-line next to my Jose Pagans and Orson Mobleys, respectively.

(Football cards are another animal...I completely stopped those around 2014, when I bought a random pack and the traditional stats had been replaced with Fantasy Football Ratings. Topps also lost the NFL license)


Bottom line is I'd only recommend getting into baseball cards if you go in as a fan. It can be fulfilling. If you go into as an "investor" or with the intent of making money somehow, you'll be frustrated.



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Like Superstar said, I am concerned about us being the last generation that gives a poo about sports cards.

However...every Halloween for the last 5 years, I've been giving away home-packed packages of sports cards. It's a way to get rid of all the "common" 90's cards I have, but I make each pack has at least ONE card I'd like to get. Usually an late career Hall of Famer card, like a 1991 Andre Dawson.

Our street is Halloween central for our Large Metropolitan District(kids are buss'ed in) and we get anywhere from 800-1,000 rugrats per year. Every year, the kids have been ecstatic to get my packs ("Mom! I got baseball cards!"). Or they're at least curious. Even the girls.

Bonus: this is the best way to "make money" with the worthless crap. Putting together 800 packs of cards saves us about $100 each year in candy. Sets me back about $8, cuz I buy cheap sandwich bags from Dollar Tree to wrap 'em up.



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WongLee wrote: The 1971 Topps are my all time favorites. As Superstar mentioned, they could be a challenge to collect due to the black background. It's the same background that makes the card so unique and pleasing to the eye.

Thanks for all the great posts and advice guys. It's the Beej Board that will truly MAGA.
I didn't mind the 1970 cards with the gray border but 71 like others are probably my favorite.
Then you get 1972 where some drunken clown college fagit must have come up with the design. I collected them of course because I was heavy into the madness then but I've never been crazy about that set.



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Erick Von Erich wrote:
Bottom line is I'd only recommend getting into baseball cards if you go in as a fan. It can be fulfilling. If you go into as an "investor" or with the intent of making money somehow, you'll be frustrated.
Yep. This is exactly what I would be doing. I'm only interested in the Mets. When I started my basic research I found websites dedicated to only Mets baseball cards. As I stated in my first post, I probably wouldn't live long enough to complete the task unless I have a great aunt who's going to leave me a million dollars that I don't know about. Either way it will be fun to try.



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I think PSA ratings and graded cards took all the fun out of it for me. I sold most of mine off but still have a near complete Oriole card collection from 1954-87 and the 1976 Topps set which was the first year I collected.

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