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 Posted: Sun Dec 1st, 2019 11:32 pm
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The white man once again kept the Latino brother from having a taste of the pie. Forty six years ago tonight Stan Stasiak beat Pedro Morales for the WWWF strap. I'm attaching the famous story that was posted on KKKlassics. I'm not sure how true it is because Vince Elder seemed pretty anal about his title. I think Stan was kayfabing this story.

The Night Stan Stasiak Became World Champ

By Frank Dusek (as given by Stan Stasiak)
A lot of fans wonder what it’s like when wrestlers find out they are going to achieve one of the ultimate honors in this sport, to hold the World heavyweight championship.
Stan Stasiak was one of the fortunate few that had the combination of talent and opportunity to become World heavyweight champion.
In addition, Stan Stasiak was a great friend and someone that I truly miss. It’s kind of ironic that Stan was best known for his heart punch-finishing move because his heart was one of the biggest in wrestling. Despite drawing money for decades as a main event villain, he was one of the most genuine and nicest men you would ever meet. You can’t think of Stan without thinking of his laugh, which he did all the time. He was one of the funniest men I have ever known.
I got to meet up with Stan after he won and lost the WWF (in those days it was the WWWF title). I asked him about his brief title reign. He told me the story of when he found out he was going to be champion.
This was Stan’s second or third tour with the WWF. Every time he went to New York it was the same thing. Three weeks of TV matches and a tour around the house show circuit to collect a win to set up the main event for the next card in the town. After that, it was in the main event against Pedro Morales for the title. He wrestled Pedro dozens of times and never won. It didn’t bother Stan at all. He was main eventing in one of the Mecca’s of pro wrestling, getting paid very well and had no problem doing business.
He was sitting in the dressing room in Philadelphia and the road agent came to discuss the match. Stan considered this a formality as he had been having the same discussion, nearly verbatim, in every major city on the Eastern seaboard for the last two months. In fact, it was the same conversation that Stan had over and over the last couple of times he had wrestled in the territory.
Here is how Stan relayed the conversation:
WWF official: Pedro makes the big comeback and gives you a belly-to-back.
Stan (bored): Uh-huh
WWF official: The referee will go down to make the count.
Stan (paying about half attention while he tied his boots): Right…
WWF official: The referee will count "one, two…."
Stan (matter-of-factly): Of course….
WWF official: At two, you roll your right shoulder….
Stan now looks up to pay attention realizing this must be a false finish leading to another spot after which Morales would hit the top rope splash for the win.
WWF official (matter-of-factly): Pedro’s shoulders will still be down and the referee will hit three.
Stan completely stopped what he was doing as he took a long look at the official.
After a long pause that seemed like several minutes, the official offered nothing else so Stan spoke.
Stan (somewhat confused): You mean I win?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
WWF official (matter-of-factly): Yes.
Stan: Is this a title match?
WWF official (matter-of-factly): Uh-huh.
Stan was really confused now as the official just stared at him blankly.
Stan (in disbelief): You mean I win the title?
WWF official (somewhat impatiently): Yes.
Just like that, out of nowhere, Stan Stasiak was about to become the World Heavyweight Champion. And unlike today, they didn’t tell him until they went over the match in the dressing room.
Turns out the decision was made to pass the torch from Pedro Morales back to Bruno Sammartino. They wanted to put the title back on Bruno at the next Madison Square Garden card but didn’t want Bruno to beat Pedro.
For eight days, Stan Stasiak got to live out a dream most wrestlers never realize.



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 Posted: Mon Dec 2nd, 2019 12:39 am
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I’d like to know who the “WWE Official” was. I find it hard to believe that Vince didn’t have this conversation himself. Backlund says he was told directly by Vince and I believe Koloff was too.



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srossi wrote: I’d like to know who the “WWE Official” was. I find it hard to believe that Vince didn’t have this conversation himself. Backlund says he was told directly by Vince and I believe Koloff was too.Exactly. This story has too many holes in it. Like I said, I don't think Frank Dusek is to blame, but Stan was probably a carny until the day they shoveled dirt on his coffin. The audience that an 'insider' story like that would appeal to, would know all the names. Was it Willie Gilzenburg, Toots, Elder himself? Who gave Stan the nod?



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Call me gullible, but I can buy it. MSG was a week later - and Elder Vince from what I know didnt always go to Philly. Let’s assume for a second that whatever deal he made with Bruno happened that weekend, maybe even that day. Elder has the ability to make the call and let one of his trusted guys deliver the news. Could have been any one of his guys, hell, could’ve been Gorilla as Philly was his home arena. And while Backlund, Koloff, and Superstar Graham all had Elder tell them personally, they (with possibly the exception being Koloff) also were told months in advance. The whole Pedro/Stan/Bruno thing was very hastily worked out. Koloff won and lost at MSG, as did Backlund. Superstar won in Baltimore and lost in MSG. Stasiak winning it in Philly on short notice? I totally buy that Elder wasn’t there and that it was out of the blue. Like he was in the right place at the right time. My question to you all is: Did they take the belt from Pedro because he wasn’t drawing? Because Bruno wanted rid of the belt when he gave it up, and he wasn’t exactly screamIng to get it back.



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This is fine but Wong is right, I would’ve liked to have heard who specifically told him. The whole “WWF Official” thing sounds fake and isn’t the way someone would talk. Strange that he couldn’t give a name, and even stranger that Dusek wouldn’t have asked. 

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I'd be curious to know when Pedro found out. Minutes before Stasiak? And who told him?



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The one thing I remember distinctly was that the Sammartino vs. Stasiak match had been set up immediately after the November MSG card. It was no coincidence that Bruno was in the position for an easy transition. It wasn't as if they had to do hotshot last second booking to put Bruno in position. This would have been completely against McMahon's tried and true booking strategy. I did find it odd that Stan didn't get a rematch and that Don Leo Jonathan got the first Garden shot as he had been on his way out by then.



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Smoeater had the unenviable task of relaying the message to both Stasiak and Pedro, as well as telling Stasiak after the match that he would be dropping it to one of the Bruno's at MSG.



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